RAW 09/23/2019 - Fatal 5-Way #1 Contender's Match for the Universal Championship. Shinsuke makes in-ring debut

[GD]

Fatal 5-Way #1 Contender's Match for the Universal Championship
Rey Mysterio versus Ricochet versus RAW Tag Team Champion Robert Roode versus United States Champion AJ Styles versus Intercontinental Champion Shinsuke Nakamura

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King of the Ring Finals Rematch
Chad Gable versus King Corbin

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WWE Women's Tag Team Champion Nikki Cross (w/ WWE Women's Tag Team Champion Alexa Bliss) versus Sasha Banks (w/ Smackdown Women's Champion Bayley)

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A brand new episode of Firefly Funhouse

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[RP]

Nakamura vs Rollins would be fantastic. But I'm sure it wont happen.

[GD]

It happened last year at Survivor Series and it was a bit underwhelming.

[Ruien]

What is the best site to stream with? Going to try to get back into Raw but dont have USA atm.

[slik]

This is also the end of an era

The final week RAW will be the A show of WWE after 25+ years

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you're not tuning in to find out who the father of <a href="https://twitter.com/MariaLKanellis?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MariaLKanellis</a>'s baby is then you're watching RAW wrong. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1176206385656344576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

is the football game(s) big tonight

[rez]

creepy intro

[Evil Vito]

Rollins promo = channel change 3 minutes into the show

[slik]

Announcers no selling Bray taking over the credits so far

[Emperor Smeat]

Fiend messing around with WWE's intro bumper was pretty cool. Probably give it a few more weeks before WWE drives Fiend's shenanigans into the ground.


is the football game(s) big tonight
Bears vs. Redskins doesn't seem that interesting but doubt its going to generate into a nice bump for RAW.

[slik]

Seth promo boring af....

[Emperor Smeat]

Unless WWE has something big planned for the build, Fiend-Rollins is going to be a waste of a Cell match since nothing about it feels blood feud worthy.

[slik]

how many people is seth feuding with...

[KIRA]

Lol if they manage to Fumble the ball on the seen this company is well and truly lost because that gimmick is perfect

[Emperor Smeat]

For all the hype about next week's season premiere, WWE kind of forgot to also hype up tonight as the season finale for RAW.

[Droford]

Am I imagining that Rollins/Fiend isn't for the title?

[Droford]

Oooh new music

Even though I liked omen in the sky

[Emperor Smeat]

OC's new theme is pretty decent.

[GD]

The O.C. have new music. Pretty neat.

[GD]

Am I imagining that Rollins/Fiend isn't for the title?

They're definitely competing for the Universal title.

[GD]

"Monster of a man" Luke Gallows.

[Droford]

They're definitely competing for the Universal title.

What if Rollins loses next week

[GD]

I was pleasantly surprised by how good the commentary duo of Michael Cole and Tazz were while watching No Way Out 2004 on the Network.

[GD]

What if Rollins loses next week

Fair enough. Feel like none of the competitors are strong enough to "slay" the architect.

[Droford]

Rollins and Kofi losing belts would be a good way to perk up ratings for Raw and SD and also protecting the Fiend from eating a loss at HIAC

[GD]

Can't wait for Lacey Evans to grace us with her presence.

[Droford]

Fair enough. Feel like none of the competitors are strong enough to "slay" the architect.

AJ Styles isn't? Lol

[GD]

Rollins and Kofi losing belts would be a good way to perk up ratings for Raw and SD and also protecting the Fiend from eating a loss at HIAC

I am expecting the HIAC match to be a no contest with either the Undertaker or Demon Balor interrupting.

[Droford]

Can't wait for Lacey Evans to grace us with her presence.

She's probably off tv for a while

[Droford]

I am expecting the HIAC match to be a no contest with either the Undertaker or Demon Balor interrupting.

But HIAC is no dq

[GD]

AJ Styles isn't? Lol

He already had his chance. Besides, he's doing fine with the United States strap.

[slik]

a lot of people tweeting about AEW commercial during RAW

[Emperor Smeat]

Viking Raiders vs. OC was pretty good overall.

[GD]

But HIAC is no dq

1. Undertaker and Austin vs Mankind and Kane was a no contest.

2. Mankind vs Kane was a no contest.

3. Roman Reigns vs Braun Strowman from last year was a no contest :-\

[slik]

feel like Afif would be stressed out watching if he were still with us, god rest his soul

[GD]

Viking Raiders vs. OC was pretty good overall.

I was genuinely surprised by how much offense The OC got in the match.

[Droford]

a lot of people tweeting about AEW commercial during RAW

They must not have paid directv to air it

[GD]

feel like Afif would be stressed out watching if he were still with us, god rest his soul

#RIP Dibs on Lacey Evans

[Droford]

Lol crank yankers is back

[Emperor Smeat]

The audio in this Michael Cole interview sounds like its being recorded from the audience because of the echo.

[Droford]

Rusev vs ec3 lol

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: EC3 getting a singles match on RAW.

Sure he's going to get destroyed in probably a minute or two tops but better than just being stuck in catering or randomly chasing after whoever is the 24/7 champ.

[slik]

Rusev squashes EC3 in like two minutes

[slik]

Nacho Libre cutting a promo backstage

[KIRA]

EC3 probably came to RAW thinking hed be at least its 2nd biggest heel.

[Droford]

Lol they ran an AEW ad but it said it was on channel 138 which isn't TNT on directv

[Droford]

I was going to say it's odd Bayley isn't wrestling near her hometown but A they probably don't want her to get face pops too much and B they're still in SF tommorow

[slik]

looks really tarped off

https://i.postimg.cc/4NJwWH80/Screenshot-2019-09-23-at-7-47-10-PM.png

[slik]

I miss Nia Jax

[rez]

bored

[Droford]

I just realized that if they go back to strict brand split I wonder what they do with the women's tag belts

[slik]

most of SD tomorrow has tickets open and is tarped off:

https://www1.ticketmaster.ca/wwe-smackdown-live/event/1C0056F2EED06D78

[Emperor Smeat]

Nikki vs Sasha was pretty great overall.


looks really tarped off

https://i.postimg.cc/4NJwWH80/Screenshot-2019-09-23-at-7-47-10-PM.png
Probably is since that's been the case for RAW and Smackdown for a long time. Even next week's "season premiere" show wasn't selling that well based on recent reports.

[Droford]

New logo for raw next week

[KIRA]

They both sound like Big E

[Emperor Smeat]

Whenever WWE boasts about having a ton of social media followers and presence, it just underscores how meaningless it is since none of that has translated into new viewers.

Plus they pretty much manipulate the numbers and stats to make it seem like they are way more popular on social media than in reality.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the Hogan announcement getting booed.

[xrodmuc316]

God please don't let her be fighting Nattie again

[Sepholio]

Can't wait for Lacey Evans to grace us with her presence.

She's probably off tv for a while

lol

[slik]

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[KIRA]

Lacey is a walking GLOW gimmick

[KIRA]

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Gotta walk before you run guys

[xrodmuc316]

Gotta walk before you run guys

They want the second one so they will still have a show after the first one gets cancelled :rofl:

[slik]

Lacey is really bad at the sharpshooter

[Sepholio]

Probably is since that's been the case for RAW and Smackdown for a long time. Even next week's "season premiere" show wasn't selling that well based on recent reports.

Feel like with these huge TV deals they have now that they could maybe afford to cut ticket prices a little bit. It's not cheap to go to a WWE event, especially if you take the family. I went to a house show here a couple years ago and we had seats maybe 2/3 the way up the stadium seating. Not awful seats, but we weren't close. Cost $63 dollars a person. For a SD house show and not good seats. Some of the close seats were several hundred dollars. For a house show. That's ridiculous to me. They are pricing themselves out of a much bigger audience.

[Emperor Smeat]

That might have been the worst ever Sharpshooter which is pretty amazing considering how bad Rock's version used to be.

[KIRA]

I didn't think I'd ever see a sharpshooter that was shittier than the rocks

[Emperor Smeat]

Someone in production messed up big time tonight with the audio from these taped segments.

[KIRA]

That might have been the worst ever Sharpshooter which is pretty amazing considering how bad Rock's version used to be.

It's sad to think that I've seen children perform that move better

[rez]

Renee plugging NXT with a smirk on her face.

[Sepholio]

That stare Bray does is really creepy

[Emperor Smeat]

That was both stupid and great at the same time.

[Droford]

24/7 is apparently a woman's belt now for a while

[xrodmuc316]

Feel like with these huge TV deals they have now that they could maybe afford to cut ticket prices a little bit. It's not cheap to go to a WWE event, especially if you take the family. I went to a house show here a couple years ago and we had seats maybe 2/3 the way up the stadium seating. Not awful seats, but we weren't close. Cost $63 dollars a person. For a SD house show and not good seats. Some of the close seats were several hundred dollars. For a house show. That's ridiculous to me. They are pricing themselves out of a much bigger audience.

100% this, but that's not Vince.

Vince would rather sell 5000 tickets at $50 for $250,000 then sell 20,000 tickets at $10 for $200,000.

I get it, but at the same time if 15,000 more people show up, you can make more on merch, plus it makes your product stronger.

[Sepholio]

LMAO what did they do to Corbins theme

[Droford]

I like how he's not even wearing the photoshopped crown they took the time to photoshop on his head

[rez]

Pretty good looking crown for a scrub

[Sepholio]

100% this, but that's not Vince.

Vince would rather sell 5000 tickets at $50 for $250,000 then sell 20,000 tickets at $10 for $200,000.

I get it, but at the same time if 15,000 more people show up, you can make more on merch, plus it makes your product stronger.

Yeah it's really strange. I'd be doing whatever it took to put asses in seats and push that merch on them too but it is what is.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: WWE managed to create a mash-up theme that wasn't completely terrible.

[GD]

Tyrion Lannister :nono:

Fuck off Graves!

[GD]

Rest hold Corbin is back!

[Emperor Smeat]

If Gable beats Corbin, does that mean he becomes a kingslayer?

Wonder if Rollins would be happy with no longer being the only slayer in WWE.

[Droford]

Stunt security

[RP]

I bet Corbin is one of the top 10 pussy getters in the WWE.

[GD]

More rest holds!

[GD]

Gable chants filling up this capacity crowd, Maggle!

[GD]

That was really close. Wow!

[slik]

crowd awake for Gable!

[slik]

If a lot of the big names go to Smackdown in the draft I'd like to see Gable end up on RAW and keep getting a push

[Emperor Smeat]

Gable vs Corbin was very good overall.

Also quickly becoming Corbin's best feud since his call-up.

[GD]

AOP don't like #SAWFT guys.

[Droford]

Styles and Ricochet last 2

[GD]

Nacho Libre things

[rez]

Corb probably gonna challenge that cancer beating kid

[Droford]

Ricochet and Ali basically with the same gimmick

[KIRA]

Omg so ricochet is a super hero? FFS Vince

[Emperor Smeat]

For as great as Ricochet is in the ring, he's pretty bad when it comes to giving WWE style promos.

[slik]

I miss Titantron videos

[slik]

really orange Bobby Roode

[GD]

I miss Titantron videos

I couldn't agree more. I'm glad that NXT has started integrating moving graphics for the match cards.

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[Droford]

Omg so ricochet is a super hero? FFS Vince

http://rvgfanatic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/WassupWitDat.gif

[GD]

TNA chants :lol:

[Droford]

Nakamura looks like Asian kane with a stripper gimmick

[slik]

LMAO at TNA chants

[Droford]

Well..damn

[GD]

Damn, wasn't expecting Ricochet to be the first one to get eliminated.

[GD]

Remember when tower of doom spots were special?

[GD]

Remember when Shinsuke vs Styles was a big deal?

[Emperor Smeat]

Mysterio came really close to being accidentally brainbusted on the apron.

[GD]

So the United States Champion just pinned the Intercontinental Champion. No big deal.

[Droford]

I almost got a Dave Lagrecca guy shirt back at WM

[GD]

Wow! The crowd was red hot for the ending. Quality match.

[RP]

Rollins gives the same backstage interview to Charlie Caruso every Monday night. I'm not even making this up. I'm positive it can be verified.

[Emperor Smeat]

Fatal 5-way was pretty good overall.

Too bad Rey vs Rollins is pretty much a throw-away match next week.

[GD]

Season premier? This might be the first time Rey Mysterio and Seth Rollins will "square off" in singles competition.

[GD]

N AXEEE TEAAAAAAAAAA!

N AXEEE TEAAAAAAAAAA!


N AXEEE TEAAAAAAAAAA!



N AXEEE TEAAAAAAAAAA!


N AXEEE TEAAAAAAAAAA!

[GD]

Unsure how I feel about the new graphics presentation.

[Emperor Smeat]

Fatal 5-way should have been the main event tonight since this Rollins vs Strowman match hasn't been as entertaining.

[xrodmuc316]

Fatal 5-way should have been the main event tonight since this Rollins vs Strowman match hasn't been as entertaining.

Fiend appearance is close id think

[RP]

lol why is Seth screaming ROFL what in the fuck

[RP]

So Seth is a fucking pussy? Cool.

[GD]

lol why is Seth screaming ROFL what in the fuck

He scared

[RP]

All that talk backstage and when Fiend comes out, Seth is curled up in the corner screaming.

I cant do this anymore.

[GD]

The Fiend dominating his former protege like a boss.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the strobe light effect for the Fiend's attack is just some ring guy swinging a flashlight back and forth.

[RP]

I've actually reached the point where I switch the main even and turn back 3 minutes before 11pm to see if anything happens.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE is starting to drag out the Fiend's end segments a bit too long now.

RAW was pretty good overall.

[Tom Guycott]

Late to the Party:

During the promo at the beginning, all I heard Braun's "say it to my face", and now I can't get Alex Riley's song out of my head.

I selfishly wish War Viking Rader Experience Machine could use a theme that sounded closer to Blood & Tears.

[Tom Guycott]

Lacey is really bad at the sharpshooter

That might have been the worst ever Sharpshooter which is pretty amazing considering how bad Rock's version used to be.

I didn't think I'd ever see a sharpshooter that was shittier than the rocks

Wasn't there someone in WCW that was pretty bad at it that was supposed to be sending a message to Sting?

But it is true that she's now the low-water mark for the move. I mean, how the hell do you fall and you're the one who's applying the move?!

[Tom Guycott]

Jarl Corbin still dressed like a part time bartender under the robe.

I used to be a wrestler like you, but then I took a scepter in the head...

[Tom Guycott]

I like nearly everything about the entire Fiend gimmick... except for the screaming/screeching noises during his appearances. It is the audible equivalent of the nauseating camera whenever someone lands punches. And while I understand the point of it may be to cause a level of discomfort in a horror movie way, it also causes actual discomfort in a way where I need to stop watching because I don't need the subsequent headache.

[Tom Guycott]

So Seth is a fucking pussy? Cool.

He is man enough to step to Braun and Lesnar, but just the sight of Bray makes him shit his pants and go fetal? Seems a bit inconsistent... unless he's also affected by the noise treatment like I am.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/OC4qEAg.png

[Tom Guycott]

I think the issue isn't so much that he's selling the fear, Bloody Malth... it's that he's selling the fear out of nowhere.

Like, if Bray kidnapped him and he escaped or some shit, or they already had some epic blood feud capped with HIAC, an establish history of fucking people up, or some kind of Dungeon of Doom scenario, it is more understandable.

Instead, he's afraid of Bray because... reasons. Because it's convienent to be paralyzed with fear for the sake of the story, which ironically makes it not work.

Again, he actively hunted HHH, Brock Lesnar, and Braun Strowman. They whipped his ass repeatedly, and he kept coming back and toppled them through sheer force of will. But suddenly, he turns into a paralyzed pussy over blackout lighting and a mandible claw applied to someone else by a guy in a mask?

That's storytelling on the level of a guy turning into a gullible dumbass overnight and falling for something he wouldn't have last week just because he switched babyface. I'm saying that sucks.

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I checked out the ending of Raw just because I had to hear Seth screaming. Holy shit, amazing. I hear so many positive things about the Bray Wyatt stuff. Holy fuck, that was awful. The noises, the unclear camera work, Bray’s laughter, Seth screaming.

When you don’t watch Raw for ages and come back, it’s so fucking jarring just how dreadful this is.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the crowd is so dead <a href="https://t.co/OulfnXAh0C">pic.twitter.com/OulfnXAh0C</a></p>&mdash; georgina (@poutybliss) <a href="https://twitter.com/poutybliss/status/1176300109736239104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

I checked out the ending of Raw just because I had to hear Seth screaming. Holy shit, amazing. I hear so many positive things about the Bray Wyatt stuff. Holy fuck, that was awful. The noises, the unclear camera work, Bray’s laughter, Seth screaming.

When you don’t watch Raw for ages and come back, it’s so fucking jarring just how dreadful this is.

While I'm all about being critical of the current product, I didn't know that you held such strong opinions without actually consuming it in its entirety.

[Mr. Nerfect]

While I'm all about being critical of the current product, I didn't know that you held such strong opinions without actually consuming it in its entirety.

My strong opinions have been formed by it driving me off.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hottest news from this show is that Mickie James did commentary on Main Event and Slater-Gator reunited.

[Tom Guycott]

Hottest news from this show is that Mickie James did commentary on Main Event and Slater-Gator reunited.

I would have loved for that to happen while Titus Worldwide was a thing. Heath Slater is just about the only thing that would have made that entrance even better!