RAW 09/30/2019 - Season premiere, now with brand new graphics and new set to make 2K20 outdated before release

[rez]

I wonder if Seth's hairy face and body gives Becky's Irish skin rashes

[Emperor Smeat]

If Bobby Lashley was the person in the limo, then what an anti-climatic end to that surprise.

[Evil Vito]

Lol this company sucks

[GD]

It's fucking Lashley :lol:

[Jordan]

oh fuck I'm gonna cum

[Evil Vito]

Sigh. Classic Heyman smut booking.

[GD]

Lana took forever to come out :nono:

[GD]

Lmao! The commentators reacting to the kiss was amazing :rofl:

[KIRA]

What is this bullshit

[rez]

Yeah...Why would I want to watch WWE after that?

[GD]

Stop kissing already...JESUS!

[Nicky Fives]

Hard night of work for Bobby....

[Jordan]

Lopsided but not a bad Raw and they've cucked Rusev. LOL

[GD]

Does Heyman have a cuckholding fetish or something?

[KIRA]

Lmao and this company wants to be taken seriously

[Jordan]

I want to watch back and see if he got a boner, would be really hard not to get a boner doing that with Lana right?

[GD]

Fellas, we've overestimated Heyman. Wow! Fuck that noise.

[Emperor Smeat]

For years Vince hated the idea of Rusev and Lana being a legit couple and finally pulled the trigger on embarrassing Rusev out of pure spite.

Also :mad: at there now being two of those terrible storylines going on at the same time.

Ending to RAW stunk but the show itself was pretty good overall in terms of entertainment. New commentary team already a lot more enjoyable than Cole & Graves ever were as a team.

In terms of being the go-home for the Cell PPV, it did a pretty bad job building stuff for that upcoming show.

[slik]

What a weird ending

[rez]

I guess SD will be the family value show

[Lock Jaw]

Haven't watched RAW in months, but just started to play it just because...... "Weird" with no Michael Cole screaming "IT'S BOSS TIME!!" with Sasha coming out

[rez]

For years Vince hated the idea of Rusev and Lana being a legit couple and finally pulled the trigger on embarrassing Rusev out of pure spite.

Also :mad: at there now being two of those terrible storylines going on at the same time.

Ending to RAW stunk but the show itself was pretty good overall in terms of entertainment. New commentary team already a lot more enjoyable than Cole & Graves ever were as a team.

In terms of being the go-home for the Cell PPV, it did a pretty bad job building stuff for that upcoming show.

Did Rusev and Lana re sign? That shit just bothers the fuck out of me

[rez]

Good thing Renee has her show now before Vince could humiliate her

[Emperor Smeat]

Did Rusev and Lana re sign? That shit just bothers the fuck out of me

Not that I know of. Both still have some time left on their current deals and if WWE's recent tactics are any indication, this current push for Rusev is their way of trying to keep him in the company.

Then again this stuff with Lana feels very counter-productive and Vince wanting to get one last laugh before they leave.

[Evil Vito]

I seem to remember when Heyman took over there was a report that he was really high on both Lashley and Rusev and he wanted to use them once they were available. But like this?

I have to assume that Heyman and Bischoff have already been working with each other and Vince to decide where some of the talents are going. I'd assume Rusev and Lashley are safe for Raw since otherwise it makes no sense to start an angle like that right before the draft.

[Tom Guycott]

Set looks like a half pipe. Should’ve picked something from the soundtrack to the Tony Hawk Pro Skater series.

A new twist in the 24/7 Championship: they have to find the letters to spell
"C-H-A-M-P" floating around the arena that night.

[xrodmuc316]

I know you all are shutting on this, but for months the plan was supposed to be that Smackdown was supposed to be the serious sports show, and Raw was going to be the more entertainment type show.

If they do this kind of stuff on Smackdown, then that would be a valid time to complain.

If the 2 shows are going to be truly different, then this is the kind of things Raw has to do to be different then Smackdowns show.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Co-sign.</p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1178839986214301696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

On one hand, the promos leading up to that potential match would easily be the best in years in WWE.

On the other hand, it would also be a strong contender for worst Mania match in years considering their health issues and age.

[Evil Vito]

RAW is basically just ECW if they had a $100m+ budget.

[Tom Guycott]

Fuck anyone who bitches about WWE using legends. Obviously it's the best shit.

I think you're oversimplifying.

It isn't so much that they just use legends in and of themselves. Its that they like to "trot out the old farts" as it were at the expense of building new stars. Yeah, Stone Cold was the man. 20 years ago. Pre injuries and in ring shape. He shouldn't be presented as still better than everybody on the active WWE roster right now collectively. Otherwise, why do I want to see anyone on the active roster? Your own company just told me they're all subpar scrubs to a guy younger/newer fans would only know tangentially at this point.

Anyone who gets themselves over they downplay as "flavor of the month", and the person they want folks to care about get overexposed ad nauseum to the point of X-Pac heat. They have gone away from the legends passing the torch by and large and instead have them steamroll the people we're going to see week on week. An old but perfect example is the time The Ascention was gang raped by all the "legend" tag teams including the New Age Outlaws... who ironically really got their start by going over LoD. Imagine if back then the Road Warriors and Demolition and Powers of Pain and the Headshrinkers just squashed and embarassed them. They wouldn't be a "legend" team now, because nobody would have given a fuck.

They usually end up presenting it as their new guys not being worth seeing. If that is on purpose or not is a totally different debate. It's kind of like a bookend to new NXT callups that are hot and strong coming in to be jobbed to oblivion. Unless they're pet projects like Roman or Corbin.

A romp down nostalgia alley is fine, but you don't have to walk on anyone's back to get there.

[Jordan]

Note that I wrote that regrettably before the Hogan and Flair segment.

[Jordan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Co-sign.</p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1178839986214301696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

On one hand, the promos leading up to that potential match would easily be the best in years in WWE.

On the other hand, it would also be a strong contender for worst Mania match in years considering their health issues and age.

The promo's would be shit. That segment was an embarrassment and totally not cool in any way.

[Droford]

For years Vince hated the idea of Rusev and Lana being a legit couple and finally pulled the trigger on embarrassing Rusev out of pure spite.

Also :mad: at there now being two of those terrible storylines going on at the same time.

Ending to RAW stunk but the show itself was pretty good overall in terms of entertainment. New commentary team already a lot more enjoyable than Cole & Graves ever were as a team.

In terms of being the go-home for the Cell PPV, it did a pretty bad job building stuff for that upcoming show.

I can't wait for them doing something with Becky and Seth

[Droford]

The promo's would be shit. That segment was an embarrassment and totally not cool in any way.

Buried Dead match would be awesome.

[Droford]

A new twist in the 24/7 Championship: they have to find the letters to spell
"C-H-A-M-P" floating around the arena that night.

Don't steal my gimmick. Thx

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was the agent for the 1st one<br>If you guys need me again <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wwe</a> <a href="https://t.co/tTzbGJVYGn">pic.twitter.com/tTzbGJVYGn</a></p>&mdash; Tommy Dreamer (@THETOMMYDREAMER) <a href="https://twitter.com/THETOMMYDREAMER/status/1178851427055230979?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

LOL it was probably Jarrett or Bischoff's idea no doubt.

[Droford]

The funniest thing is I can see Roode being on Team Flair again

Rood and Styles were in Fourtune after that and Roode and Styles are close now. Flair could be the manager of the OC lol

[rez]

Poor Rusev and Lana

[DAMN iNATOR]

Really disappointing they've got a show in KSA on the 31st and they probably didn't even consider using the Halloween Havoc name. Even the Saudis love Halloween candy more than silly crowns and jewels.