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Jordan
10-08-2019, 01:13 AM
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Jordan
10-08-2019, 01:13 AM
I will be watching tomorrow, anyone else?
erickman
10-08-2019, 02:57 AM
I thought that was going to start last week I was looking for it all over youtube
SlickyTrickyDamon
10-08-2019, 03:00 AM
6:05 (the MOTHERSHIP) tonight.
Jordan
10-08-2019, 03:19 AM
I really liked that video. I feel like those face to camera promo's old school style will be really cool to watch. I never saw much of Eli Drake but what I have seen, the dude is a great promo. James Storm is also a great promo and as you can see in that video, is gonna be doing that old school thang. I'm not expecting dives and springboards but hopefully some realistic wrestling with the older heavyweight guys like Mr. Anderson, James Storm and Tim Storm (no relation). And also some good athletic stuff that isn't exactly what we are getting from NXT or AEW. I guess just more old school style. I wonder what channel this could end up on?
Triple A
10-08-2019, 03:19 AM
Love the way the set looks
erickman
10-08-2019, 03:34 AM
Tuesday nights will be set 6.05 watch nwa then go to impact at 8. it looked like Sandow is back and marty bell looked good.
SlickyTrickyDamon
10-08-2019, 03:45 AM
Impact lol never impact.
Simple Fan
10-08-2019, 04:24 AM
Everything looks cool. I'll check it out and it'll be a good lead in to Impact on Tuesdays. Like that it's on YouTube.
Droford
10-08-2019, 06:34 AM
Impact lol never impact.
when it goes to new eps ill definitely be watching
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 06:55 AM
I’m going to watch. A nice, tight one-hour show with Cornette on commentary. Yes, please.
Glad to see David Lasagna back in action. Also Corbin looks a lot like Norm when he wears a hat.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 12:05 PM
He has those same basset hound eyes Norm has developed over recent years.
Jordan
10-08-2019, 07:02 PM
First episode about to go on Youtube right now!
Jordan
10-08-2019, 07:07 PM
OKAY, that opening was great.
erickman
10-08-2019, 08:03 PM
well that was a good show
Jordan
10-08-2019, 08:06 PM
Solid show. Reminds me of a better MLW restart to be honest.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:12 PM
FUCK, I FORGOT. Starting now! Everyone rewind!
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:14 PM
I want this to be a serious version of Southpaw Regional Wrestling. But I know that’s a lot to ask.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:16 PM
Oh, this opening is fucking fantastic.
Jordan
10-08-2019, 08:16 PM
I want this to be a serious version of Southpaw Regional Wrestling. But I know that’s a lot to ask.
Did you get to the Austin Idol commercial :lol::rofl:
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:18 PM
I’m not a huge Nick Aldis fan. Good promo though.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:19 PM
Interviewer reminds me of Chris Parks.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:20 PM
Oh God, is this a jobber match? YES!
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:22 PM
Instantly invested in The Dawson’s because they just wrestled a match that didn’t take them 20 minutes to win. GOOD CONCEPT!
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:23 PM
Did you get to the Austin Idol commercial :lol::rofl:
Just did. I was joking. But somehow they did it and it was glorious.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:25 PM
Eli Drake is just born for this. I’m sorry, Noid. You’re wrong. Guy’s got swagger.
Jordan
10-08-2019, 08:31 PM
Eli Drake is just born for this. I’m sorry, Noid. You’re wrong. Guy’s got swagger.
He totally does. I think that Aldis and Drake will be a great long term rivalry for NWA.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:32 PM
Eli Drake is just born for this. I’m sorry, Noid. You’re wrong. Guy’s got swagger.
He did the annoying “Yeah! Yeah!” stuff and he was far from the best thing on the show, but he was tolerable here.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:34 PM
Great show. Don’t even really have specific feedback. I just enjoyed it. Oh, Eddie Kingston can fucking talk, can’t he? I like the emphasis on styles.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:38 PM
Loved Jocephus at first but his body language when actually confronted by James Storm kinda threw me off.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:40 PM
He did the annoying “Yeah! Yeah!” stuff and he was far from the best thing on the show, but he was tolerable here.
I came away instantly thinking of him as the guy who needs to take the title off Aldis. Which is weird because I never thought of him as a face. But he came off as “the guy”.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:41 PM
He didn’t really do it for me. Something about him does seem put on, but I kind of like that seems to be his gimmick. Him being “embarrassed” will probably make him dangerous.
Oh, that fucking Austin Idol commercial was glorious.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:42 PM
Brian Hebner as a referee is good. Like that they got a billing in the credits.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:44 PM
Loving these matches so far. Actual long-term storytelling as opposed to everyone trying to look like a main eventer.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:45 PM
Oh. So apparently Jocephus isn’t supposed to be taken seriously. Good.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:46 PM
I’m enjoying the promos too. They’re not spectacular, but they say what they want to say.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:49 PM
There only seemed to be 10k people watching, but there are only 25k watching AEW Dark. I expected a bigger gulf than that, just because of where NWA is and the scale of production. Good for NWA.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 08:52 PM
47k on Facebook. That’s not bad.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:52 PM
I’m enjoying the promos too. They’re not spectacular, but they say what they want to say.
They’re genuine. Which is good. Some guys are shit at it and some are great. Better than leaving it to writers though. I kinda like Nick Aldis all of a sudden. And Tim Storm just made a cheesy sympathy appeal by talking about “Mama Storm” and it fucking worked. In 2019. Fucking love this show. Lol
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 08:53 PM
There only seemed to be 10k people watching, but there are only 25k watching AEW Dark. I expected a bigger gulf than that, just because of where NWA is and the scale of production. Good for NWA.
I’m seeing 22k viewers on YouTube.
Jordan
10-08-2019, 08:56 PM
They really nailed the spirit of an NWA studio show.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:01 PM
I’ve got 27k on YouTube and 47k on Facebook. It is a debut, but 74k is pretty solid, especially since it just aired.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 09:01 PM
They really nailed the spirit of an NWA studio show.
Not just with the look/setup of the studio but the booking and the way the show is run. You can just tell Billy Corgan is one of us old school wrestling fans who happens to have a shitload of money and decided he wants to bring back his childhood.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:02 PM
Tim Storm is not exactly fluid in the ring, but I liked him.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 09:05 PM
Meh. He’s like 55. He’s got a role. Not gonna judge him too harshly. Match is fine.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:07 PM
I didn’t grow up with studio wrestling, so it’s not even really the nostalgia that’s getting me. It’s just the authenticity of the presentation. The wrestlers exist in time and space. There’s the right energy. The audience is right there with it, but it’s not about jamming as many into a space as possible. The on-air talent is great too. Obviously Cornette is excellent, but I liked the other commentator and thought the interviewer sold stuff well.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:08 PM
Meh. He’s like 55. He’s got a role. Not gonna judge him too harshly. Match is fine.
Yeah, I think him being stiff works for him. You’d expect it, lol.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:10 PM
I’ve seen Caleb Konley before, and he struck me as “indy.” He knew his role here. I like that tjere’s a wrestling show where everyone is on board to give things tiers and put on an overall product that isn’t just about jamming everything you can in.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 09:11 PM
Aldis giving respect but still reminding everyone he’s a heel. Beautiful.
#1-norm-fan
10-08-2019, 09:13 PM
Literally nothing wrong with that show unless you expect every wrestling match to have the goal of being a 6 star match. That was perfect.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:16 PM
Loved the ending. Awkward, but in a good way.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:18 PM
I’m looking forward to what Ken Anderson and Aaron Stevens do in this environment. Seriously. Both got really exposed through TNA, but here they are going to have a focus that is based around logical wrestling. Both have shown talent and potential star power before. Will be interesting to see which guys show up and what their respective gimmicks are.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 09:19 PM
The rumors are that he is going back to WWE, but John Morrison would be fucking excellent in this environment.
Lock Jaw
10-08-2019, 10:20 PM
Just watched it, because why not.....
I enjoyed it... really liked that it actually felt "different". AEW feels like "more of the same but with different people", but this genuinely feels like something "different".
I think if they unleash some cocaine on their roster so we can get some good old cocaine-fueled promos, they could have something great on their hands.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 10:26 PM
I started to watch AEW Dark after this. Big mistake, lol. Although it is funny hearing JR bury people. He’s the master at it.
Skipping through, the best lines I caught were “there’s a lot of parity in this tag team division” and comparing Penelope Ford to The Great Muta.
Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2019, 10:27 PM
I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels that way about AEW.
Tom Guycott
10-09-2019, 12:34 AM
I want this to be a serious version of Southpaw Regional Wrestling. But I know that’s a lot to ask.
Did you get to the Austin Idol commercial :lol::rofl:
This is what I thought. I was half expecting to see "paid impersonator" somewhere like the Ric Flair/KFC commericials.
Tom Guycott
10-09-2019, 12:37 AM
I’ve seen Caleb Konley before, and he struck me as “indy.” He knew his role here. I like that tjere’s a wrestling show where everyone is on board to give things tiers and put on an overall product that isn’t just about jamming everything you can in.
Speaking of, something about that guy rings a bell, but I can't think of why. Wasn't he in some semi-popular tag team? I seriously can't remember why he just seemed so familliar to me.
Mr. Nerfect
10-09-2019, 12:37 AM
Between YouTube and Facebook the show is now over 100k views. It’s actually beating AEW Dark which is only on YouTube, which is pretty cool.
Mr. Nerfect
10-09-2019, 12:38 AM
Speaking of, something about that guy rings a bell, but I can't think of why. Wasn't he in some semi-popular tag team? I seriously can't remember why he just seemed so familliar to me.
He’s been around for years. He was in a faction in EVOLVE, I think.
#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 12:38 AM
But instead they found the money to pay the real Austin Idol.
Mr. Nerfect
10-09-2019, 12:40 AM
Wasn’t he managing Nick Aldis recently?
#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 12:43 AM
I started to watch AEW Dark after this. Big mistake, lol. Although it is funny hearing JR bury people. He’s the master at it.
Skipping through, the best lines I caught were “there’s a lot of parity in this tag team division” and comparing Penelope Ford to The Great Muta.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels that way about AEW.
Yeah. As much as I liked their debut, the parity is gonna be a problem. There’s gonna be a 7 team tournament to decide the first tag champs and every match is gonna be “close”. Because every match seems to have to be “close”. And that’s a fucking terrible idea.
#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 12:49 AM
Wasn’t he managing Nick Aldis recently?
He was briefly after Aldis won the title. But Aldis doesn’t seem to need him. He should manage someone though. If all we get are commercials pushing his wrestling school though, that’s cool too.
Tom Guycott
10-09-2019, 12:56 AM
Critique of this show like I did with the others:
Comparing this to AEW Dark is a tad unfair. I will say is that I actually rather like how the landscape is shaping up now. There is different product for different types of audiences instead of simply WWE and WWE Lite... and nobody has to hold out hope for WWE stepping up their game, because they clearly have no interest in doing so.
As for Power itself, I wasn't sure I would dig the set as much as I do. Those leaked photos made it look a lot worse than it actually came off in airing. It is just retro enough without coming off as "cheap". Speaking of cheap, I still can't get into Knockoff Miavia. Good for him and his career for getting involved with this, I guess, but eh. Everyone else is fine. Yes, even Tim Storm.
I just hope they don't go overboard with all the "we're men being men and fighting like men because that's what men do" rhetoric. I get it, but going too far with that makes it just as hokey as what you're trying to avoid being compared to, and it was dangerously close with just this first chunk of what's already in the can.
Triple A
10-09-2019, 12:58 AM
Really interesting... "Retro" feel is really cool... love that
Also really like the promos obviously just being the guys going out and cutting their own promos rather than WWE's abysmal scripted promos
Lock Jaw
10-09-2019, 01:02 AM
I found the studio cameras w/box lenses "weird"..... like.... you don't need to zoom in that far, dudes....... I guess whatever studio they are using just has those cameras, though.... prob don't have "regular" lenses for those cameras.....
Evil Vito
10-09-2019, 01:03 AM
Might check this out tomorrow before AEW
Tom Guycott
10-09-2019, 01:04 AM
I failed to mention the theme song, which just oozes 80s nostalgia as well. The only thing missing was someone rocking a Ribera jacket.
Triple A
10-09-2019, 01:05 AM
I found the studio cameras w/box lenses "weird"..... like.... you don't need to zoom in that far, dudes....... I guess whatever studio they are using just has those cameras, though.... prob don't have "regular" lenses for those cameras.....
A few of the shots during promos were out of focus, focusing on the background... "smh" at that!!!
#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 01:28 AM
I failed to mention the theme song, which just oozes 80s nostalgia as well. The only thing missing was someone rocking a Ribera jacket.
I thought it hit the perfect spot of triggering nostalgia but not feeling too dated. Really good middle ground.
xrodmuc316
10-09-2019, 01:43 AM
That was awesome, I used to love those studio shows WCW used to run.
Also, damn if that is not the best intro theme song for a wrestling show ever!!
Fignuts
10-09-2019, 02:09 AM
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Fignuts
10-09-2019, 02:21 AM
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#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 02:23 AM
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Well it’s also not a huge investment. They film bi-monthly in a studio and air on YouTube.
#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 02:27 AM
But seriously, matches like this not being possible on a grand stage anymore are one of the biggest flaws in wrestling.
Fignuts
10-09-2019, 02:28 AM
Well it’s also not a huge investment. They film bi-monthly in a studio and airing YouTube.
https://i.imgur.com/YI1voGq.png
Emperor Smeat
10-09-2019, 02:30 AM
Saw the debut episode and agree with others here on it having a pretty unique and old school style feel to it compared to WWE, AEW, and other notable promotions.
Was decent to good overall. Not something I'd watch regularly but more in the MLW or AAA tier where I might catch a show here or there on occasion.
I’ve seen Caleb Konley before, and he struck me as “indy.” He knew his role here. I like that tjere’s a wrestling show where everyone is on board to give things tiers and put on an overall product that isn’t just about jamming everything you can in.
IIRC Caleb Konley was the focus of a wrestling documentary on MTV that ended w/ him wrestling his idol Jeff Hardy.
There’s gonna be a 7 team tournament to decide the first tag champs and every match is gonna be “close”. Because every match seems to have to be “close”. And that’s a fucking terrible idea.
I disagree.
A lot of matches in AEW will be 'competitive' not close, which is a very New Japan thing. People lose matches in New Japan but still come out looking strong bc it comes off as more competitive and that they lost today bc the other wrestler was 'the better man'...this time.
I skimmed through the first episode and enjoyed the throwback format. I don't know how sustainable it is. Always glad to see an alternative.
erickman
10-09-2019, 05:52 AM
IIRC Caleb Konley was the focus of a wrestling documentary on MTV that ended w/ him wrestling his idol Jeff Hardy.
isn't he the one dating rosemary and on allies youtube show.
Tom Guycott
10-09-2019, 06:17 AM
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I think the quote from Aldis said it best: "From punchline to headline".
Remember how, when Corgan made the NWA purchase, folks were like "LOL, well what did he really buy?!?" He bought seeds to actually grow something. Granted, the world took a giant left turn near about the same time with the fame of certain Bullet Club members and ended up opening up a whole new timeline leading to AEW, but this was likely something in the works from day one. A passion project from Billy that isn't rushed or falsified for fucked with. I think it will fit in just fine with part two of the current wrestling renaissance (part one was the Euro scene before WWE pretty much fucked that up).
Mr. Nerfect
10-09-2019, 08:01 AM
I hope I keep at this. I wanted to get really into MLW too, but just...didn’t. Liked the presentation and everything.
Jordan
10-09-2019, 10:49 AM
I hope I keep at this. I wanted to get really into MLW too, but just...didn’t. Liked the presentation and everything.
I feel you. I so badly wanted to be an MLW mark but the lack of consistency and certain roster choices have made me care less and less. IDK there is just something about MLW that doesn't "feel right". Where as NWA on episode one had so much more going for it. The nostalgia, huge aspect of that. The production was d o p e, from the entrance video to the in-between screen edits... commentary all of that. Promo's are better too.
I go back to MLW from time to time but haven't finished a full show with my full attention on it since probably April.
Actually I think that with AEW, NWA, and Impact someone is going to get "forced out" and I'm looking at ROH or MLW. I don't know if either are in a "bad way" financially, but I can't imagine ROH isn't on a finanical lifeline with Sinclair. I can see MLW doing okay because they can draw a crowd and sell merch and have a tv deal that pays them.
Jordan
10-09-2019, 10:51 AM
Over 120k watched on Yotube and 70k on Facebook. That is over double what MLW shows do.
#1-norm-fan
10-09-2019, 11:34 AM
I disagree.
A lot of matches in AEW will be 'competitive' not close, which is a very New Japan thing. People lose matches in New Japan but still come out looking strong bc it comes off as more competitive and that they lost today bc the other wrestler was 'the better man'...this time.
If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.
Jordan
10-09-2019, 11:49 AM
If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.
Let's give it a few weeks. I see the point you are trying to make but AEW is "giving the guys a chance" in these early shows. You have to to build the records. After a few weeks and the records are more developed, we will see a more defined top middle and undercard.
Simple Fan
10-09-2019, 01:56 PM
Really good hour of wrestling.
Vastardikai
10-09-2019, 04:45 PM
I enjoyed that hour, because I wanted to believe what they were doing. The Ten Pounds of Gold felt like it mattered, and that's something you don't get much in WWE. It was the focus of the show, as well it should be.
Eli Drake needs to find his own voice (and not the Rock's), but he feels like a star. Wild Card's bit with Kingston and Homicide felt like an interesting program start and then there's the wild swing to Jocephus and James Storm brawling. And they put exactly the amount of people in that they needed to. No extraneous talent, no getting all your shit in, and most amazingly, NO DIVES! There was some outside in moves, but no one went to the floor. And no one needed to.
And one more thing...
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Sepholio
10-09-2019, 05:26 PM
I liked this show a hell of a lot more than I thought I would going in. Something about it just feels right.
Emperor Smeat
10-09-2019, 08:14 PM
According to TheWrap, around 22% of the total watch time for NWA's new show on Youtube came from people who also watched the debut episode of AEW Dark.
Pretty much means NWA is a very nice lead-in to AEW's Dark show and there is a sizable cross-over between both audiences on Youtube.
As of noon ET Wednesday, “NWA Powerrr | Episode 1” landed 144,000 YouTube viewers. Of the more than 2 million minutes watched, 22.1% of them came over as suggested viewing from those watching the series premiere of fellow pro-wrestling program “AEW Dark,” NWA Vice President David Lagana told TheWrap exclusively.
“NWA Powerrr” began at 6:05 p.m. ET yesterday, leading the “All Elite Wrestling” YouTube show in some ways and following it in others.
Jordan
10-09-2019, 08:30 PM
I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.
Jordan
10-09-2019, 08:31 PM
Actually, that really should be the deal they go for. Corgan the music, Viceland the music... it would be a relationship I could see making a lot of sense. Viceland has a it's of demo of viewer that would probably be into this Powerrr product.
Emperor Smeat
10-09-2019, 08:54 PM
I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.
Maybe a low tier network like POP TV since the market for wrestling is still pretty weak unless you have great connections in the tv industry.
NWA tried shopping around this show to networks beforehand but got no real buyers which is why its stuck on Youtube.
Mr. Nerfect
10-10-2019, 03:33 AM
I feel you. I so badly wanted to be an MLW mark but the lack of consistency and certain roster choices have made me care less and less. IDK there is just something about MLW that doesn't "feel right". Where as NWA on episode one had so much more going for it. The nostalgia, huge aspect of that. The production was d o p e, from the entrance video to the in-between screen edits... commentary all of that. Promo's are better too.
I go back to MLW from time to time but haven't finished a full show with my full attention on it since probably April.
Actually I think that with AEW, NWA, and Impact someone is going to get "forced out" and I'm looking at ROH or MLW. I don't know if either are in a "bad way" financially, but I can't imagine ROH isn't on a finanical lifeline with Sinclair. I can see MLW doing okay because they can draw a crowd and sell merch and have a tv deal that pays them.
Hmm, MLW seems to be doing fine, but there are sometimes reports that things are "tight." Sinclair can keep ROH alive for as long as they want to, but maybe they won't want to? I've had a feeling that it could get sold for some time now. I just don't know how TNA keeps surviving.
I liked what I watched in MLW, but it just feels a little "inconsequential." What NWA Power did, either intentionally or just subconsciously, was make their little corner feel important and worth being invested in.
MLW had guys I really liked -- Jacob Fatu is a fucking star, baby. But it made me think "I want to see those guys somewhere else."
I want another billionaire to come along and unify the MLW, Impact and ROH rosters and have a serious rasslin' alternative to WWE. To me, AEW is the sports entertainment one with some good pro-wrestling mixed in on top.
If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.
Yeah, I don't mind things being competitive some of the time, but I feel that everyone at every level gets exposed. I'd like someone going long to mean something again. I mean, you should really earn that privilege when you get to a level where people know you can do it.
I don't really care if guys plan out their matches and high spots and all that, but I've got this personal opinion, based on nothing professional obviously, that you should be able to call a match as a long as you can plan one. The only people who should be going twenty minutes are the sorts of guys who can go out there and work twenty minutes from scratch. There are too many guys who would get lost doing rehearsed shit and it takes the "art" out of it for me. And it does a lot of crowds too, because you can feel them getting burnt out, and it's because these are set pieces not wrestling matches.
I remember actually paying money for an EVOLVE show to give them a chance a few years back. I stopped watching and never went back. That's equivalent to a walk-out. I just...couldn't. The first three matches just had guys going back and forth and kicking out of everything. It all felt the same and nothing counted. It gets so fucking exhausting and there's no drama.
I know this is a pretentious rant, lol. It just seems obvious to me that everyone gets to see way too much of everyone's shit and that everything is the same. It could be a real shortcut to getting people over if matches went shorter, had a much more logical and reserved psychology, and the "cool shit" gets busted out for emphasis a lot more rarely.
I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.
Viceland seem to trust Cornette, and he's obviously got the ear of Corgan too. It's possible that BeIN might be interested in them too, or AXS or even Sinclair. But there were also rumors that Showtime was looking for "artsy" wrestling when they were in talks with AEW. This may not be aesthetically what they're after, but it might be worth a preliminary chat.
Corgan's got a pretty weird rep, doesn't he? Viacom are an entity that I can always imagine being interested in wrestling/music/a connection between the two. They've got Bellator. Maybe they give them a chance as long as Dixie Carter and/or Russo aren't involved.
Jordan
10-15-2019, 06:18 PM
Don't forget, we got NWA Power live at 6:05! on Youtube.
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:08 PM
Recap of last week built EMOTION. Getting into it again with this bad ass opening video.
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:11 PM
Holy shit I love it again already. Aaron Stevens is awesome.
erickman
10-15-2019, 07:13 PM
andy kaufman
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:16 PM
andy kaufman
Totally. Who is gonna play Lawler?
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:17 PM
Actually Tim Storm vs Aaron Stevens would be interesting. Storm is unable to challenge for the NWA Championship anyway. Could be interesting dichotomy with the characters there.
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:18 PM
LOL @ Trevor Murdoch "GOOD JOB KID IT JUS WADENT MY NIGHT"
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:20 PM
Ricky Starks with a helluva promo! Kid's got a silver tongue!
Jordan
10-15-2019, 07:28 PM
MR. Anderson teaming with Colt Cabana is pretty decent.
For the lazy folks
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Holy shit I love it again already. Aaron Stevens is awesome.
Pleasantly surprised.
What the actual fuck? Trevor Murdoch is only 39 :eek:
Glad to see Brian Hebner again. Had no idea that Cabana is a 2-time NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion.
Loved the Austin Idol commercial...
Jordan
10-15-2019, 09:16 PM
I enjoyed week two even more than week one tbh. I'm kind of invested.
Mr. Nerfect
10-15-2019, 09:26 PM
So good.
Mr. Nerfect
10-15-2019, 09:27 PM
Ricky Starks has something. He reminded me a bit of The Rock.
Mr. Nerfect
10-15-2019, 09:27 PM
Aron Stevens looked really good.
Mr. Nerfect
10-15-2019, 09:28 PM
Just going to say it, because credit due where credit due: Eli Drake was awesome in his role this week. Sorry, Eli. I can admit it when I’m wrong.
Mr. Nerfect
10-15-2019, 09:28 PM
Waffles & tire irons.
Vastardikai
10-16-2019, 01:13 AM
A few thoughts:
First of all...
Waffles & tire irons.
Secondly, I like how the NWA does one thing amazingly well: They make all of their Belts feel very important. Everyone they featured made it a point to say that they want a shot at the National Title or the World Title. And their Singles Champions made it very clear why they held their titles.
I'd rather see Cabana vs. Anderson than Cabana team with Anderson.
Eli Drake felt a bit more authentic here than he did in his first promo, but he's no James Storm.
My buddy who watched the show a little before me said "James Storm is one hell of a promo." And he's right.
Aldis bullying the commentator is funny. I fell like the run up to Camille finally talking will be good.
Ricky Starks has something to him, and he's a star in the making. His match was solid against a veteran like Murdoch, who knew how to make him look like a star. Get him some women drooling all over him, and you've got money.
Aaron Stevens has this weird Lanny Poffo/Kaufman tone to his voice. He got the fans laughing until he got them pissed off at him. I can see him fitting in well.
Only weak part to me was Wild Card vs. Homicide and Kingston. They just didn't click for me. It was decent. Dawsons were the best part of that match.
That was my thoughts on Episode 2. Also, one more thing:
Waffles & tire irons.
Tom Guycott
10-16-2019, 01:37 AM
LOL @ Trevor Murdoch "GOOD JOB KID IT JUS WADENT MY NIGHT"
He's just misunderstood
Simple Fan
10-16-2019, 02:12 AM
Another great show. With everyone else trying to do 5 star matches every show this is refreshing.
Vastardikai
10-16-2019, 02:27 AM
LOL @ Trevor Murdoch "GOOD JOB KID IT JUS WADENT MY NIGHT"
I meant to mention this: Murdoch put that kid over both in the ring and with that statement.
Because so many times a Roll-up type pin like that is played off as a fluke. Especially when you have matches that go way too long and feature guys kick out of everything from Superplexes to getting a tank dropped on them, only to end with a small package.
Murdoch treated that finish as a legitimate win, not a fluke. And with a kid the NWA is clearly investing in, it's a smart move by a veteran worker.
Simple Fan
10-16-2019, 02:34 AM
Just going to say it, because credit due where credit due: Eli Drake was awesome in his role this week. Sorry, Eli. I can admit it when I’m wrong.
I gotta put this in my signature.
Tom Guycott
10-16-2019, 07:01 AM
Don't look for such platitudes from me, though. I will say, however, that he was a lot more tolerable here. Sounded more natural and less hacky, gimmicky, or Dollar Store Miavia. It was just one promo out of years of awful backlog, though, so I'm not going to jump on his dick from one portion of a taped set. This might be a one-off thing.
He's still a shit sandwich, just not a sloppy one.
Mr. Nerfect
10-16-2019, 07:58 AM
He's nowhere near the best thing on the shows, but they're not presenting him that way. If he's cutting down on the Mock Rock stuff, then maybe he's listening to Cornette or something, and that will make him a lot better.
Jordan
10-16-2019, 08:28 AM
The Rock is an obvious inspiration to many, including Drake and Starks on NWA. I can't blame them or say it's wrong, he's the best ever, so it's like when we had 10 Nature Boys... bound to happen.
Eli and James Storm seems like a good potential program. Storm seems to care less for the NWA National title and his aggression is quite heelish. I think Storm loses to Drake and ends up in the 10lbs of Gold scene like he wants in a hell feud with Aldis.
Jordan
10-16-2019, 08:31 AM
Cabana and Mr. Anderson is interesting. I didn't watch Anderson in TNA at all so it's kind of refreshing for me to see him for the first time in like a decade. They set the stage for his heel turn early on when Cabana topped of Anderson's entrance gimmick. It was a funny moment but I think that it will go further as weeks go on leading to Anderson turning on Cabana and having a program as enemies. However inserting two singles acts into the tag division interests me as well, it's a good way to get a further story, be it they stay together are never quite get a long thus "funny" or Anderson turns on Cabana and we get a reason to really cheer Colt against a bastard heel.
Mr. Nerfect
10-16-2019, 08:54 AM
Cabana and Anderson were pretty good. They didn't steal the show, but they were comfortable performing. I think I'd rather see Storm & Drake as a team than as opponents.
Jordan
10-16-2019, 09:06 AM
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/nwa-announces-next-ppv-event-fire-december-14
NWA PPV on Dec 14th, "Into the Fire"... sounds great but....
It looks like they will run the PPV in the TV studio, if that is the case I'm pretty disappointed. I wish they could run a small auditorium/venue that would give a more arena feel than the studio does, for the PPV. Hoping I'm wrong and they announce Center Stage or something.
Jordan
10-16-2019, 09:08 AM
Well I asked Dave Lagana and he said yes the show will be at the tv studio. Hoping they do away with the set and make the studio feel different for PPV.
Mr. Nerfect
10-16-2019, 09:54 AM
I agree. They should at least run something with a few hundred people.
Jordan
10-16-2019, 10:54 AM
I agree. They should at least run something with a few hundred people.
I'm hoping the add bleachers where the set is and do a proper ringside and shoot it with the camera view being the stadium seating. I just want a different feel than the tv.
Jordan
10-22-2019, 09:57 PM
Week 3, best episode yet.
Jordan
10-22-2019, 10:05 PM
Hope you guys feel the same. Tim Storm and Eli Drake were awesome.
Simple Fan
10-22-2019, 10:29 PM
Wasn't a fan of Aron Stevens part but was a good show.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-22-2019, 10:32 PM
He's got more chops than Ric Flair
Simple Fan
10-22-2019, 10:41 PM
I just think he should be more serious. His movie just felt like one of their commercials, which are great.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-22-2019, 10:45 PM
He's clearly somewhat of a comedy heel. But he could kinda end up being Honky Tonk man levels of effective (a lengthy mid-card title holder)
Simple Fan
10-22-2019, 10:52 PM
Yeah I think that's what he's comfortable with. Similar to his time in TNA with the Liberace gimmick I didn't like.
#1-norm-fan
10-23-2019, 12:10 AM
I just think he should be more serious. His movie just felt like one of their commercials, which are great.
That’s him. He’s not a serious contender. He’s a gimmicky midcard heel. And he’s great at it. Not everyone has to try to be a serious main eventer.
Jordan
10-23-2019, 12:46 AM
It's crazy how much this show feels like the old school real deal. It does have an indy quality don't get me wrong but there is a lot more to it than that. Tim Storm have built so much BELIEF in the 10lbs of Gold just by losing his chance to compete for it. Aldis is coming off like a combination of Flair and Bockwinkle mixed with his own thing because he's not just copying he is inspired. James Storm is so vicious... I am wondering who is going to be the challenge for the 10lbs of Gold at the PPV?
Vastardikai
10-23-2019, 12:48 AM
I need some Invisible Hair Cream to go with my Waffles and Tire Irons.
Fignuts
10-23-2019, 02:11 AM
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Fignuts
10-23-2019, 02:27 AM
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#1-norm-fan
10-23-2019, 02:41 AM
It's crazy how much this show feels like the old school real deal. It does have an indy quality don't get me wrong but there is a lot more to it than that. Tim Storm have built so much BELIEF in the 10lbs of Gold just by losing his chance to compete for it. Aldis is coming off like a combination of Flair and Bockwinkle mixed with his own thing because he's not just copying he is inspired. James Storm is so vicious... I am wondering who is going to be the challenge for the 10lbs of Gold at the PPV?
The end definitely hinted at an Aldis vs. Drake feud.
I love how Aldis is a dick but doesn’t go overboard with it for the sake of being a heel. He’s very “real” in his heelishness.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-23-2019, 08:31 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aXoMgzc.png
it is amazing how the WWE fails to understand the economy of words. If you say less, what you say means so much more (granted you're a good talker).
Even in WWF, during the 80s, with Hogan and Savage, they didn't come out and open up Superstars with a 45-minute promo.
Fignuts
10-23-2019, 08:39 AM
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Helmsphere
10-23-2019, 12:48 PM
I meant to mention this: Murdoch put that kid over both in the ring and with that statement.
Because so many times a Roll-up type pin like that is played off as a fluke. Especially when you have matches that go way too long and feature guys kick out of everything from Superplexes to getting a tank dropped on them, only to end with a small package.
Murdoch treated that finish as a legitimate win, not a fluke. And with a kid the NWA is clearly investing in, it's a smart move by a veteran worker.
Of course it had to be you that praised Trevor Murdoch. I saw this and was like i hope Rowdy see this but of course you posted it
https://i.imgur.com/E5sXawG.png
That was absolutely lovely.
Mr. Nerfect
10-23-2019, 09:13 PM
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I love that promo, but you can kind of feel Regal losing his place and stepping over his own lines -- but that is fine because it's believable! People can stammer and repeat a word or two and it works alright when they're mad. Especially if they're usually eloquent.
I was never a MASSIVE fan of Regal. I mean, he's one of my favorite memories of wrestling. Friends and I used to do his faces when we were pretending to be mad to crack each other up. But I never took him seriously and could never imagine him as a babyface. That promo made me fucking LOVE the guy in a few minutes. I was genuinely heartbroken when Triple H destroyed him with a sledgehammer later in the show. But props to Triple H, because he genuinely sold Regal in the actual promo itself (his face read "I'm in trouble now").
Another great Regal promo that no one talks about, but stood out to me, was when he was feuding with Edge in that weird period of 2002 when they were struggling to find a new identity. Regal appeared on the titantron and cut a promo about being mocked for being British, and then reminded Edge that he must be pretty stupid, because if he knew about history, he'd know the English are the most barbaric race in human history. I fucking loved that line. I loved Edge as a babyface at the time too, but going back, he does not hold up well. Felt overly forced and he didn't really raise good points, but was doing kind of a Rock/Jericho-lite thing where he'd just rattle off some corny insults that didn't have the same charismatic support.
Mr. Nerfect
10-23-2019, 09:13 PM
I haven't watched NWA Power this week, but I intend to. I'm actually saving it as a treat. I haven't done that with wrestling in some time.
Mr. Nerfect
10-23-2019, 09:15 PM
By the way, on the WWE 20-minute promo: Obviously the WWF had some great talkers like The Rock that you just wanted to let go, but I really do think the long-winded monologue is a Triple H influence. He could do them fine, some were hit and some were miss, but they got especially tired on repeat and when he had Raw on lock-down. But I think they've got this idea that that is how stars must act.
Bobholly138
10-26-2019, 05:18 PM
Loving POWERRR
But then have been watching Tim Storm and Ricky Starks since 2011 or so.
Mr. Nerfect
10-27-2019, 06:27 PM
Eli Drake gets my gold star of the week this week.
Vastardikai
10-29-2019, 09:22 PM
Great action this week. Ricky Starks feels like the star on the horizon that's going to take them to the next level. Murdoch vs. Josephus was a fun fight, and Josephus getting a little taste of his own medicine was a great payoff. Homicide and Kingston vs. Dawsons was nasty and uncomfortable, well worth it. The Women's match was good. And the Six Man. Oh My God, the Six Man. I am curious where the World Title picture is going.
Simple Fan
10-29-2019, 09:33 PM
Kayfabe cocktails
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2019, 10:46 PM
Lol I don’t get what they’re going for with Eli Drake: Motivational Speaker. But I kinda love it. He “should” be a heel but this is working.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2019, 10:53 PM
Lol I don’t get what they’re going for with Eli Drake: Motivational Speaker. But I kinda love it. He “should” be a heel but this is working.
Both motivational speaker and shit-stirrer. Or, just a walking plot device. Same with you, no matter what he is, I'm enjoying it.
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2019, 10:58 PM
Trevor Murdoch vs Josephus now in a match between two guys that have come off as jobbers over the last couple weeks yet somehow I’m invested in the match. That’s how you fill time without over-exposing your stars.
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2019, 11:08 PM
This show seems like it’s going too fast which is also a crazy concept nowadays.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2019, 11:19 PM
Fan, do you think it's possible for anybody other than big dweebs like us to enjoy this awesome shit?
--by us, i mean weiner wrestling fans who are weiners enough to already love wrestling.
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2019, 11:19 PM
Fuck. Buy 3 waffles, get 4 tire irons free is an incredible deal. I gotta make a trip out to Paducah.
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2019, 11:28 PM
Fan, do you think it's possible for anybody other than big dweebs like us to enjoy this awesome shit?
Definitely. I mean... it’s purely a nostalgia trip for wrestling nerds like us. But I think there’s a fan base to be had. Ric Flair is “in” nowadays and it certainly isn’t based on his late 2000s WWE run. I think embracing old timey shit is a thing nowadays. Especially as throwaway YouTube entertainment.
The only problem is that, as an old school wrestling fan, it’s tough to explain the charm of the slow build. It’s been 25 years since that was a thing.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2019, 12:31 AM
was aaron stevens always this out of shape and doughy?
Bad News Gertner
10-30-2019, 12:39 AM
Iceman King Gertner approves of this show
Bad News Gertner
10-30-2019, 12:42 AM
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#1-norm-fan
10-30-2019, 01:18 AM
Surprised Gertner loves this. When I think Gertner, I do not think of studio wrestling.
Emperor Smeat
10-30-2019, 02:13 AM
was aaron stevens always this out of shape and doughy?
Think he was a lot more fatter or pudgy looking from the time between his WWE release till taking a break from wrestling for theater-related stuff.
#1-norm-fan
10-30-2019, 02:26 AM
Mr. Anderson’s pudginess was more alarming to me but I missed most of his TNA run.
Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2019, 06:26 AM
I fucking love this show.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2019, 09:20 AM
I think the camera angle and lighting both play a roll in the guys' bodies looking weird. This isn't a "body-first" company so it's not like the WWE, where they're focused on everyone looking like an action figure on-screen.
Bad News Gertner
10-30-2019, 09:24 AM
Surprised Gertner loves this. When I think Gertner, I do not think of studio wrestling.
Oh God yes. I love NWA wrestling from the mid to late 80s. Especially Center Stage tapings.
Jordan
10-30-2019, 02:25 PM
Aron Stevens did have some fat man boobs forming but he's pretty entertaining.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2019, 02:27 PM
Yeah he's got a nice act. Just something I noticed.
Vastardikai
10-30-2019, 03:41 PM
Something I thought about since watching this show: everything on the show took place for a reason, and everything made sense.
That is good booking, plain and simple.
Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2019, 04:39 PM
Aron Stevens looks like he has slimmed down in the face. He’s not cut or anything, but I remember him being bulkier in WWE.
Evil Vito
10-31-2019, 11:03 AM
It’s so strange how they’ve brought new life to so many guys I was pretty tired of or soured on like Ken Anderson, James Storm and even Aaron Stevens. This is a pretty wild creative boom in the industry.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2019, 11:16 AM
NWA seems real. The characters, rather than being idiotic caricatures that only do things because the script tells them to, react as real people would to their various circumstances.
I think Fan discussed how he cared about the Jocephus vs Murdoch match -- it's because even those are undercard dudes, they're still put over as tough men, not to be fucked with. Sure, they're not title contenders, but their inability to hang with the truly top tier guys doesn't mean they're fucking loser nerds who can't get laid (or who are cucks). They're still mean and nasty men who'll kick your teeth out, given the chance.
And guess what... that means when Nick Aldis is doing a featured non-title match against Trevor Murdoch where the winner is obvious, he can still get over despite his opponent's standing. Why? Because Aldis could show grit against the nasty Texan, who'll likely try to dirty things up with his smashmouth style.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2019, 11:56 AM
I just came in here to say I found myself fantasizing about Trevor Murdoch today. Fuck, he might be one of the more underrated guys in the business. I wish I had appreciated him more earlier.
Everything he does is so minimal but so spot-on. And his promos made me love him. His promo about wanting a contract with the NWA made me think about all these stories that could involve him proving himself and shit. And that’s just to get a job at the entry level. I’m probably going to wipe away a tear when his mug celebrates earning a contract.
I thought they would do Aron Stevens in that sort of role. But man, can you imagine an arena full of “Captain Morgan” chants and that “No!”/“Yes!” shtick?
I like that Anderson isn’t doing his own introductions all the time.
Colt Cabana has impressed me. When he’s not being a complete goof, him being a goof is just his personality. He’s the underachieving class clown that you know is really smart. Or the guy with lots of good ideas that just doesn’t follow through enough. He’s what people have tried to tell me Orange Cassidy is.
I haven’t done this in ages, but I made up a story in my head about Marti Belle’s style. She’s all about ring positioning. So much of her offense is tripping her opponent and her hitting the ropes, which a lot of women don’t do. Vox managed to beat her because she had the veteran’s tested maneuver scouted and Belle went for it too many times. Vox got her planned counter in and Hebner was right in position to count to fall — ironic for Belle who is all about placement. None of that may have been intentional, but it worked for me, and I enjoyed the shit out of the match for that.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-01-2019, 12:51 PM
I just came in here to say I found myself fantasizing about Trevor Murdoch today...
...I haven’t done this in ages, but I made up a story in my head about Marti Belle’s style....
I appreciate your enthusiasm and positivity but good lord you're a strange fellow.
Jordan
11-01-2019, 05:20 PM
I appreciate your enthusiasm and positivity but good lord you're a strange fellow.
:rofl:
Jordan
11-01-2019, 05:20 PM
I just came in here to say I found myself fantasizing about Trevor Murdoch today. Fuck...
:lol::rofl::lol::rofl::lol:
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-01-2019, 06:49 PM
Of all people, Trevor Murdoch?
Emperor Smeat
11-01-2019, 06:59 PM
Apparently Jim Cornette got into trouble with NWA management regarding recent Twitter rants involving him promoting suicide for his critics.
Over the last few days, a situation was brought to our attention in regard to comments made by Jim Cornette that have been taken as making light on the subject of suicide.
We’ve addressed the situation internally with Mr. Cornette and made it clear that any comments in regards to this subject, joking or serious, are not endorsed by Lightning One and the National Wrestling Alliance.
Mr. Cornette understands the seriousness of this situation and with that he will remain the color commentator for NWA Powerrr.
Mental Health and Suicide Prevention are very important to the NWA President Billy Corgan and myself. If you’re ever needing help or need to speak with someone: The National Suicide Prevention Life Line is 1-800-273-8255 or online at https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org
Sincerely,
David Lagana
VP / Lightning One & National Wrestling Alliance.
Edit: NWA probably not going to be happy finding out that after releasing the statement, Cornette's been retweeting tweets that are bashing people who complained about him openly telling others to go kill themselves.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2019, 08:27 PM
I thought for a second that the National Suicide Prevention Life Line was their own thing they were branching out with (I’m not American). It’s early.
Cornette’s rants are wonderfully on-point and colorful, but it’s the passion and the logic that make them glorious. He doesn’t need to use violent imagery. The guy is obviously able to censor himself and be TV friendly. Someone just needs to tell him that’s not the sort of edge he needs. He’d be far more “edgy” just being blunt about things and not stooping to that level.
He’d be a huge loss to the NWA.
Jordan
11-01-2019, 08:36 PM
He's not capable of long term employment. The past shows that. I wonder who they can replace him with that would make sense?
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2019, 08:37 PM
Looking up Cornette’s Twitter, I can’t see anything about any suicide stuff. His retweets seem to be in regards to Joey Mercury’s issues with ROH and “Greg the Office Boy.” Cornette famously had issues with Greg at ROH. I don’t think it’s about being censored by the NWA so much as it is one of his boys being fucked over by corporate management.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2019, 08:39 PM
He's not capable of long term employment. The past shows that. I wonder who they can replace him with that would make sense?
Well, that’s not true. Dude was working for the WWF/E, TNA and ROH for years, and he quit that because of his issues with how it was run. His work with MLW was always part-time.
The guy hasn’t worked or needed to work a job outside wrestling.
Simple Fan
11-01-2019, 08:40 PM
He was just telling people to go kill themselves is all. Nothing really too crazy for Cornette.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2019, 08:49 PM
Well, that’s not cool anyway. Cornette has been in the bubble of wrestling for a long time, so he doesn’t care about winning internet arguments with tact and avoiding certain logical fallacies when he wants to yell at people, but he’s obviously smarter than that. He’s got so much to offer, but it’s just the wrong way to fall when you’re using mental illness to fuck with people. But it should be noted that he doesn’t go after Super Humman hard because “there’s obviously something there.” He’s doing it in the abstract for effect, and it’s just not effective anymore.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2019, 08:51 PM
Really looking forward to hearing Joey Mercury on the Experience if Cornette can get him. But the NWA and ROH have a good working relationship, so that might be dicey.
God, ROH is such a hole. Mercury is accusing Greg of lying about talking to Kelly Klein about working with a concussion and Mercury caught it and is PISSED.
Bad News Gertner
11-01-2019, 10:51 PM
Apparently Jim Cornette got into trouble with NWA management regarding recent Twitter rants involving him promoting suicide for his critics.
Edit: NWA probably not going to be happy finding out that after releasing the statement, Cornette's been retweeting tweets that are bashing people who complained about him openly telling others to go kill themselves.
Except that's not at all what happened.
The story makes it out like Cornette told the girl to commit suicide or some friend of hers. This is not true at all. Cornette reviewed some wrestling match (over a YEAR ago) and said the ring announcer was so poorly dressed he should have been drug out into the parking lot and hung. Which was obvious hyperbole and was not at all him encouraging suicide. When this girl brought it up, Cornette gave the line that others could have been involved in the hanging. Again, an obvious joke, since no one was hung and no one would hang someone for being poorly dressed. The "sexist" stuff was Cornette working her up, because this lady constantly attacks Cornette on Twitter and pointed to an old Andy Kaufman line he used on someone else as sexist. The whole thing is stupid snowflake nonsense. Cornette says a lot of over the top things about people, but he was not encouraging anyone to commit suicide.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-01-2019, 11:00 PM
Not surprising as Jim Cornette despite his antics as clearly a decent man.
Bad News Gertner
11-01-2019, 11:09 PM
These fucking bitches are unbearable. Looking for a reason to get offend just because he doesn't like the wrestling you like. Jesus Christ. What the fuck has happened.
Bad News Gertner
11-01-2019, 11:11 PM
Not that I don't tune Cornette out when he goes on rants. The minute AEW gets brought up on his The Drive Thru I skip ahead. I was gonna stop listening, but I do enjoy listening to him talk old wrestling. I think I only heard 30 minutes of the show this week .
Simple Fan
11-01-2019, 11:26 PM
I enjoy his podcast but it's gotten to the point where he's just hating on most things. He's not wrong about alot of stuff especially his stance on women's wrestling. Should really just go back to the classics but the hate is really too good to pass up and he's a natural heel so he can't resist.
Bad News Gertner
11-01-2019, 11:51 PM
He's pandering to his audience, which I totally understand.
It's just old.
Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2019, 12:29 AM
I love listening to Cornette’s takes on new stuff because it actually teaches me shit. Often something doesn’t sit well with me and I don’t understand why, and he kind of clears it up. It’s especially good when he goes into the psychology of booking and stuff. I hate the “out of touch” criticism, because it’s obvious this guy keeps up. Didn’t he get excellent reviews from MLW because he was more “up-to-date” than Bruce Prichard, who actually tries to endear himself to that audience?
Cornette is obviously not really calling for people to be hurt. His piece on Omega this week was pretty funny. And the line he’s apparently gotten into trouble for wasn’t even about suicide. That being said, I don’t mind people calling out disgusting shit. It’s just when they actually miss the point. With Cornette, it’s usually because people miss the point. If Cornette actually said something egregious, but the point was taken for what it was, and someone was just like “Hey Jim, maybe don’t use (example) because of (valid reason)” then I’d be fine with it. Honestly, Cornette probably would be too (the wake of the Sonny Kiss stuff).
People have their ideas about Cornette being out of touch and start there and then just pin a bunch of warped values he doesn’t actually hold on top of that. Because he “hates everything,” he must hate whatever thing you can pull out of a hat, for example.
Simple Fan
11-02-2019, 12:35 AM
He just thinks his way is the best. Similar to Vince which is why they both get the out of touch stuff.
Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2019, 01:28 AM
It’s not really “his way” though. Vince comes up with crazy, zany ideas. Cornette just thinks wrestling should make sense. Most of his shit is borrowed because it works.
Simple Fan
11-02-2019, 01:35 AM
Well yeah Vince can actually implement his way and Corny has always been more of a persuader. He's more of a historian than anything.They're both stubborn in their ways though is more of my point.
Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2019, 11:05 PM
Well yeah Vince can actually implement his way and Corny has always been more of a persuader. He's more of a historian than anything.They're both stubborn in their ways though is more of my point.
I get what you mean, but as long as things make sense, Cornette is actually quite liberally minded wrestling-wise. He's seen more in guys that Vince, Bruce Prichard, Kevin Dunn, etc. have just thrown to the side. He's just stubborn when it comes to things not making sense.
Tom Guycott
11-03-2019, 01:59 AM
was aaron stevens always this out of shape and doughy?
Think he was a lot more fatter or pudgy looking from the time between his WWE release till taking a break from wrestling for theater-related stuff.
Mr. Anderson’s pudginess was more alarming to me but I missed most of his TNA run.
Ken <s>Kennedy</s> Anderson was in relatively ok shape in TNA, though it was clear that with the lighter schedule and less whip cracking about the gym, he was a bit softer than he was with Titansports.
Here, it was like someone asked him if he'd be interested in coming back to wrestling two weeks before the NWA tapings happened. It was pretty jarring. I didn't notice Aaron looking so bad.
Also, does Trevor Murdoch not age? He looks EXACTLY the same as his WWE stint about, what, 15 years ago? Wonder if he still has the singing voice.
Mr. Nerfect
11-03-2019, 01:30 AM
Ken <s>Kennedy</s> Anderson was in relatively ok shape in TNA, though it was clear that with the lighter schedule and less whip cracking about the gym, he was a bit softer than he was with Titansports.
Here, it was like someone asked him if he'd be interested in coming back to wrestling two weeks before the NWA tapings happened. It was pretty jarring. I didn't notice Aaron looking so bad.
Also, does Trevor Murdoch not age? He looks EXACTLY the same as his WWE stint about, what, 15 years ago? Wonder if he still has the singing voice.
To be fair, Murdoch looked like he does now 15 years ago too.
erickman
11-05-2019, 07:01 PM
ready for the real southpaw wrestling
Jordan
11-05-2019, 11:07 PM
Best episode yet. Tim Storm and Nick Aldis are brilliant. Thunder Rosa came off really great as well.
Vastardikai
11-06-2019, 12:23 AM
The whole thing with Aldis and Tim Storm was amazing. Colt and James Storm was good, and Colt shows a good fire when he's not being as goofy.
Thunder Rosa is my next ex-wife.
Bad News Gertner
11-06-2019, 12:36 AM
I get what you mean, but as long as things make sense, Cornette is actually quite liberally minded wrestling-wise. He's seen more in guys that Vince, Bruce Prichard, Kevin Dunn, etc. have just thrown to the side. He's just stubborn when it comes to things not making sense.
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Fignuts
11-06-2019, 04:28 AM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
11-06-2019, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I fucking loved the nuance of Storm and Aldis. It was a private conversation caught on camera but they covered their bases so it made sense. Unlike WWE where private conversations are caught on tape with no explanation as to why.
And I loved the Cabana vs Storm match just in a storytelling perspective. You're not a hundred percent sure of everybody's motivation. Why is Aldis seemingly ducking Storm? Why is Eli Drake in love with James Storm?
Also, Ricky what's his name vs Aaron Stephens was fun because Stephens "gets" it. But god is his body is horrific. I'm a firm believer in either being fit or being fat in entertainment. In between is just...I dunno...unsettling. Though, it kind of works with his persona so I'll accept it.
I liked Thunder Rosa's viciousness. Then I liked what's-her-names heelturn (sorry, really bad with remembering names). Was it Marti Belle? She went from a jobber to someone I'm interested in seeing again.
Only downer is I'd be okay with seeing the Dawsons much less. They're overexposed on the show. Not bad by any means but less is more.
Jordan
11-06-2019, 10:22 AM
Steven's nude tights had me LOL.
Jordan
11-06-2019, 10:24 AM
Thunder Rosa was trending on twitter last night. She made an impact no doubt. Easily a woman who should be swiped by AEW or WWE in the future. But she has an MMA deal with Combate so perhaps she wants to keep her path. She could be THE woman in NWA.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-06-2019, 10:27 AM
Yeah, I fucking loved that.
Also, the "SILENCE" thing is very catchphrase-y and WWE-ish. It CAN work and I've chuckled a couple of times. But again, less is more. Use it at the right time and not 15 times during a promo. I'm nitpicking because he's been very good in this new persona. I just love that NWA is the anti-sports entertainment and shit like that is what brings it down.
#1-norm-fan
11-06-2019, 10:53 AM
I get the feeling that Aron Stevens, while I like him a lot, has that issue a lot of guys have where he tries to come off as more natural on the mic than he actually is and the “silence” thing is a crutch. I don’t mind it though. Most guys with that issue would just awkwardly power through the promo.
erickman
11-12-2019, 07:23 PM
I like a heel marty bell
Vastardikai
11-13-2019, 01:09 AM
I'm in love with Thunder Rosa.
Also, that Spinebuster by Trevor Murdoch was SICK.
And Question Mark is great. I wonder who he is. Josephus I know, but this is great.
And huge up for Eli Drake, who the fans tried to hijack, but proved himself unflappable. Gold star from me on that.
Fignuts
11-13-2019, 02:14 AM
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Tom Guycott
11-13-2019, 02:32 AM
And Question Mark is great. I wonder who he is.
Master Shake... oh, wait. That's The Drizzle. Nevermind.
I like a heel marty bell
Heel, face, whatever. I like LOOKING AT Marti Belle ever since TNA once upon a when even while wearing what I think was supposed to be a slutty majorette outfit...? Doesn't matter. The gimmick was wack, but she looked good in it, so it got a pass from me.
Tom Guycott
11-13-2019, 02:34 AM
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Wonder if he still sings? I mean, does he do it in private for people who know him, or is it a thing that just pisses him off and no one is ever to speak of it? It was a stupid thing to try to get him over in Vinceland, but the man had some pipes.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-13-2019, 07:46 AM
I'm guessing question mark is Jocephus but I'd need to see a comparison of their movements.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-13-2019, 07:47 AM
Either way that was great lol.
Tom Guycott
11-15-2019, 01:31 AM
I'm guessing question mark is Jocephus but I'd need to see a comparison of their movements.
I can see this being a Blue Blazer scenario. Everyone "thinks" it's Jocephus, but then Jocephus appears one day with someone else (like Aron Stephens, since he just recently "quit") under the mask so they can appear at the same time whenever anyone... uh... questions it.
Emperor Smeat
11-15-2019, 05:19 PM
Apparently Austin Idol's fake wrestling school commercials shown on Powerrr are now a legit reality.
The Austin Idol wrestling school commercials on NWA Powerrr, which were a spoof, is now a reality. Idol, 70, real name Mike McCord, has opened the Austin Idol Universal Wrestling College in Greenville, SC, where he’s lived since 2007. The Idol commercials on NWA came across as almost a spoof of the movie “Peanut Butter Falcon.” That movie came out a few months ago and got great reviews and it’s got a wrestling theme to it as the main character, who has Down Syndrome, sees an ad on a wrestling tape he has for a wrestling school and it becomes his obsession to break away from the place he is being kept and become a wrestler because the guy running the school was his childhood favorite wrestler
Vastardikai
11-15-2019, 06:55 PM
How long before we have Tony Faulk's Waffles and Tire Irons?
Jordan
11-15-2019, 07:08 PM
Anyone pre-order the PPV? I thought about it but I've been buying a lot of wrestling content lately... well MLW SuperFight and AEW Full Gear, plus I re-upped my New Japan World Subscription to get on The ROAD TO WRESTLEKINGDOM. I still have my WWE Network subscription canceled.
I will wait to see a main event announced.
erickman
11-19-2019, 07:44 PM
kayfabe cocktail this show is great
Jordan
11-19-2019, 09:19 PM
NWA took down today's episode after a lot of people were offended when Jim Cornette said "Murdoch is so tough he's the only man I know that could strap a bucket of fried chicken on his back and bike across Ethiopia"... something to that effect.
They took down the episode and have edited it off. I am not sure if it's available yet.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-19-2019, 09:21 PM
lmfao
erickman
11-19-2019, 09:29 PM
NWA took down today's episode after a lot of people were offended when Jim Cornette said "Murdoch is so tough he's the only man I know that could strap a bucket of fried chicken on his back and bike across Ethiopia"... something to that effect.
They took down the episode and have edited it off. I am not sure if it's available yet.
guess it is better to see it live, I heard the chicken part of the joke but missed the Africa part, good way to get fired cornett.
Jordan
11-19-2019, 11:09 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Inexcusable, unacceptable, and embarrassing. This is a mud show, outlaw bullshit commentary <a href="https://t.co/xOXn9J0F7Z">https://t.co/xOXn9J0F7Z</a></p>— Smark to Death Podcast (@smarktodeath) <a href="https://twitter.com/smarktodeath/status/1196953117557972994?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Emperor Smeat
11-20-2019, 12:05 AM
The worst part was that these episodes were taped weeks ago so either nobody at the NWA bothered to check the final tapes after production was done or legit didn't realize until it actually aired what Cornette said was a bit messed up.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-20-2019, 12:07 AM
Shit. That's bad Corny. I know he meant hungry people but bad choice,
xrodmuc316
11-20-2019, 12:35 AM
Shit. That's bad Corny. I know he meant hungry people but bad choice,
Context should matter though.
Had he said the exactly same thing but instead of chicken said pizza, would it have been anything?
So if we are supposed to be offended by the type of food on Murdoch's back in this fantasy scenario, is it really offensive?
People are calling it racist, but don't seem to care about famine.
Seems out of whack to me.
Vastardikai
11-20-2019, 01:04 AM
It's a shame, too.
Because it took away from:
1. The NWA debut of Melina.
2. THUNDER ROSA!
3. A damn good Murdoch vs. Aldis match.
4. The first dive in NWA Powerrr history.
5. And most importantly, the biggest star in the NWA Today. The man that will bring wrestling into the 21st Century.... QUESTION FUCKING MARK!!!!!
Fignuts
11-20-2019, 02:16 AM
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Fignuts
11-20-2019, 02:37 AM
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Destor
11-20-2019, 02:39 AM
I hate cancel culture so very much
Fignuts
11-20-2019, 02:55 AM
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#1-norm-fan
11-20-2019, 03:03 AM
That’s such a great line. Fuck people.
Vastardikai
11-20-2019, 03:14 AM
I love Corny. I really do. I agree with him on many aspects of modern wrestling.
That said, they should have Tim Storm take Corny's spot as color commentator. I think, or would hope, that Corny would understand that this is bigger than he is. The return of the NWA could get hamstrung by his continued involvement. And that would utterly suck. I'd rather have NWA Powerrr without Cornette than no NWA Powerrr at all.
Emperor Smeat
11-20-2019, 03:24 AM
I love Corny. I really do. I agree with him on many aspects of modern wrestling.
That said, they should have Tim Storm take Corny's spot as color commentator. I think, or would hope, that Corny would understand that this is bigger than he is. The return of the NWA could get hamstrung by his continued involvement. And that would utterly suck. I'd rather have NWA Powerrr without Cornette than no NWA Powerrr at all.
NWA probably won't bother doing any meaningful action until Cornette actually costs them a potential tv deal or his third strike, assuming he's on two right now, is soo bad that not even the company can defend keeping him around anymore.
#1-norm-fan
11-20-2019, 03:26 AM
It airs on YouTube. There’s ultimately no one to answer to. They can’t get cancelled.
erickman
11-20-2019, 03:54 AM
betting he won't be around the next set of tapings though jim will stay home for 6 months let it blow over. I wonder how his podcast will change will he still do the aew bitch show.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-20-2019, 04:06 AM
I'm sick of hearing AEW talk. It sucks and I want the real show back.
#1-norm-fan
11-20-2019, 04:08 AM
betting he won't be around the next set of tapings though jim will stay home for 6 months let it blow over. I wonder how his podcast will change will he still do the aew bitch show.
I’m sure he will. Why would this lead to him changing his podcasts?
#1-norm-fan
11-20-2019, 04:12 AM
I'm sick of hearing AEW talk. It sucks and I want the real show back.
I’m kinda with you. But at the same time, even before AEW, he just talked a lot about why wrestling is shit nowadays. All AEW does is supply him with examples.
Jordan
11-20-2019, 09:48 AM
There isn't anyone that I can think of that is "perfect" to replace him...
Well if Stan Lane is around he is pretty good at commentary... If he wanted a job in wrestling I could see that. But really there isn't many options from the territory era to take over from Cornette. I would like to see NWA to a talent search and a seek out someone who is a natural throwback to the territory days of commentary. Whatever that means.
Simple Fan
11-20-2019, 10:24 AM
Man people are stupid. It was just a typical Corny joke. Funny at that.
Vastardikai
11-20-2019, 11:45 AM
Man people are stupid. It was just a typical Corny joke. Funny at that.
I'm not saying it isn't funny. It just doesn't age well. It's like the current incarnation of Black Flag choosing to play "Slip it In." A cool song in it's time, but it's misogynistic as fuck and there were some serious conversations about how fucked up it was to hear in 2019 within my circle.
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Here's is a segment with Kamala, a gimmick that has no business in the modern era. And it somehow got MORE racist after he showed up.
Vastardikai
11-20-2019, 12:08 PM
And... Cornette is gone.
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