AEW Dynamite 10/23/2019 - PAC vs. Jon Moxley / Kenny Omega vs. Joey Janela

[GD]

PAC versus Jon Moxley

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Kenny Omega versus Joey Janela

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AEW World Tag Team Championship Tournament Semi-Finals Match
Private Party versus The Lucha Bros.

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AEW World Tag Team Championship Tournament Semi-Finals Match
SCU versus Dark Order

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Best Friends versus The Young Bucks

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Cody cuts a promo

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Also, Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D in action.

[Dark One]

Gonna have to catch the replay because of some work stuff, which makes me a bit sad, but I'm still hyped for the show. Have fun folks!

[Jordan]

Watching live tonight! Light the fuse, I'm ready to EXPLODE!

[rez]

10 MINUTES

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[Jordan]

How did you guys feel about Taz on AEW Dark?

[Jordan]

Crowd is LIT!

[Jordan]

Place looks sold out to me!

[slik]

Let's go Private Party!

[RP]

I dont care for Private Party

[Emperor Smeat]

Place looks sold out to me!

Read elsewhere that AEW adding in Omega vs. Janela for the card managed to sell out whatever remaining tickets were left for the show.

[RP]

the timing in this match has been a bit off.

[Jordan]

Pentagon just stomped a literal mudddhole in his ass.

[Emperor Smeat]

Poison Rana setup was pretty cool. Never seen it done like that before.

[RP]

Lucha Bro's are amazing.

[Jordan]

That was the highest moonsault of all time, holy shit.

[slik]

Crowd is HOT

[Jordan]

JR can go now tbh.

[slik]

The athleticism of Private Party reminds me of two people:

Rey Mysterio
Jeff Hardy

[slik]

JR grumpy af

[Jordan]

THAT'S THEIR MOVE!!!!

[Emperor Smeat]

Private Party vs Lucha Bros was great.

[Jordan]

Damn that was a HOT OPEN. Love the Lucha Bro's. They just schooled Private Party, whom are fantastic but still have a long way to go. They are sloppy and got gassed but still really fucking cool.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bit surprised they are getting both tag tournament matches done this quickly into the show.

[slik]

Hot take: AEW doesn't need Jim Ross. Tony Schiavone is better r/n.

[rez]

The athleticism of Private Party reminds me of two people:

Rey Mysterio
Jeff Hardy

Juventud Guerrera or not quite there ?

[Evil Vito]

Really hot opener. Lucha Brothers going over was the right call but I have no doubt that Private Party are going to be stars before long.

[Jordan]

Hot take: AEW doesn't need Jim Ross. Tony Schiavone is better r/n.

Oh for sure. He's got too much negativity on the bang bang style.

[rez]

This Dark Order hype video is very Bullet Club'ish

[slik]

Kind of want Tony and TAZ on commentary

[Evil Vito]

Schiavone bringing the stats about how many times Kazarian has teamed with Sky vs Daniels. Love it.

[GD]

I dont care for Private Party

Like George Bush.

[Jordan]

Schiavone bringing the stats about how many times Kazarian has teamed with Sky vs Daniels. Love it.

Thanks Marv!

[Jordan]

Kind of want Tony and TAZ on commentary

Me too. But JR is better in this match.

[Emperor Smeat]

Hot take: AEW doesn't need Jim Ross. Tony Schiavone is better r/n.

He did mention before of eventually shifting over into a backstage role for AEW but they wanted his name power and experience in the booth for the short term.

Of course that was before they hired Sciavone and had big plans for Alex Marvez in commentary.

[rez]

I want to bang that blonde in the horror Geico commercial

[slik]

Scorpio Sky could be a singles star for a e dub

[slik]

Evil Ewwww-No

[Evil Vito]

I want to bang that blonde in the horror Geico commercial

You and me both. Down for a spit roast?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Kazarian/Scorpio Sky most handsome tag team in wrestling.

[Evil Vito]

I liked the Super Smash Brothers. I knew they couldn’t keep their name but their gimmick was fun. The Dark Order just don’t feel like they fit at all.

[Jordan]

LOL @ Jericho "COME ON DARK ORDER"

[rez]

You and me both. Down for a spit roast?

:shifty::wtf::naughty:

[Evil Vito]

Still don’t get why Player Uno became Evil Uno but Player Dos became Stu Grayson. A guy named Stu doesn’t seem like a good fit in a dark cult.

[rez]

Where's Jericho's bubbly?

[rez]

nm. there it is

[Emperor Smeat]

SCU vs Dark Order was pretty good overall.

[Jordan]

Oh my god right on the apron!

I love this! Dark Order getting over finally!

[Emperor Smeat]

Only downside with this AEW tag tournament was Dark Order having to wrestle an extra match for a 1st round bye didn't have a good payoff in the end.

[Evil Vito]

SCU/Luchas will be really good

[Jordan]

Only downside with this AEW tag tournament was Dark Order having to wrestle an extra match for a 1st round bye didn't have a good payoff in the end.

Agree.

[Evil Vito]

Kazarian seems like Randy Orton if Randy Orton gave a shit and tried hard.

[Jordan]

Kazarian seems like Randy Orton if Randy Orton gave a shit and tried hard.

:lol:

So true. How about that leap over DDT, yikes that was tight.

[Jordan]

Oh shit... the rematch is up next!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

They’re building the Riddle/Goldberg feud on NXT. Pretty cool!

But not enough to change the channel!!!!!

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Peterson Events Center is quite full. Probably 8,500 as an estimate w/ stage. Only small part is tarped off. Pete usually seats about 12,000. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WRESTLEZONEcom?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WRESTLEZONEcom</a> <a href="https://t.co/LxPpcoewbv">pic.twitter.com/LxPpcoewbv</a></p>&mdash; Dominic DeAngelo of WrestleZone.com (@DominicDeAngelo) <a href="https://twitter.com/DominicDeAngelo/status/1187157721189146624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

I need Fandango and Breeze to join AEW just so they can team up with Janela and do some awesome 80's Miami Vice like skits or something

[Evil Vito]

Lol Kenny winning the AAA Mega title that Fenix didn’t defend for like a year

[Jordan]

Ah the unsanctioned match didn't count on the record, of course. Smart

[Evil Vito]

And yeah the Dark Order bye week stuff seemed like an unnecessary convolution. Could’ve just thrown in an eighth team from the indies for Dark Order’s first round match or something.

[rez]

Kazarian seems like Randy Orton if Randy Orton gave a shit and tried hard.

Love Kazarian..man, there was a time TNA had quite a good roster.

Dixie, Hogan, storylines tho...agh

[Jordan]

Fuck'em up Kenny fuck'em up! chant on TNT!

[RP]

I hate that Omega just stood there for 10 seconds waiting for Janella to splash him.

[BigCrippyZ]

It’s amazing how much less formulaic and more enjoyable the AEW matches and shows are compared to 99% of WWE.

[Jordan]

I don't like podcast talk on commentary. IF YOU WILL

[Triple A]

Damn, got home at like 8:20, catching up via "DVR"

[Emperor Smeat]

They’re building the Riddle/Goldberg feud on NXT. Pretty cool!

But not enough to change the channel!!!!!

Between Triple H teasing the idea of a DX vs. DIY reunion match in the future and that, wonder if WWE is starting to feel a bit worry that their plans for NXT to crush AEW hasn't worked.

[Jordan]

I think Joey broke a tooth.

[ClockShot]

Got home late and missed the first tag match.

And all I've been asking is, did Samy finally finish that popcorn.

Oh, he did. Now he's holding a bottle of bubbly.

[Jordan]

JR is hot and cold for me. I loved the way he sold that apron bump.

This match was intense.

[Emperor Smeat]

Omega vs Janela was very good overall. Didn't top their Unsanctioned match on AEW Dark but that was always going to be tough task as a regular match.

[Evil Vito]

First hour breezed by as seems to normally be the case.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Cody getting the full pyro treatment for just an interview segment.

[Jordan]

:lol: at Cody getting the full pyro treatment for just an interview segment.

He's so STING

[slik]

Both #AEWPittsburgh and Private Party trending in the U.S. on Twitter.

[Evil Vito]

A bit of a plot hole that people who bought tickets get live mics.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: DDP

[Jordan]

LOL Jericho is the fucking best.

[rez]

WHAT

[xrodmuc316]

I will NEVER be upset with "it's me it's me it's DDP"!

[Evil Vito]

Seeing DDP just reminds me that I need to get back on my DDP Yoga program.

[slik]

DDP HAS CENA NUFF

[rez]

fuckign lolol scarf being what stuns jericho lklasdfasdfla lol

[Evil Vito]

That was fun

[Emperor Smeat]

That was great.

Wonder if Jericho can get a refund on his luxury box tickets since Cody damaged the place.

[RP]

Good stuff. DDP being there is a tad bit corny.

[Jordan]

That was fucking awesome! I was laughing the whole time, wow... DDP looks great.

[slik]

Not the Dippin Dots bah gawd almighty

[Jordan]

Jericho is so goddamn funny.

[slik]

That was a great brawl, this whole show is great and fun

[Jordan]

Not the Dippin Dots bah gawd almighty

I mean come on! That was classic JR lol.

[slik]

Jericho truly one of the GOATS on the mic

[xrodmuc316]

That was great.

Wonder if Jericho can get a refund on his luxury box tickets since Cody damaged the place.

For as overused the "wrestlers watching from a luxury box" is, I am not remembering ever seeing people walk up to attack the wrestlers in the luxury box.

That was really fun.

[rez]

damnit commercials. orange cassidy is here, damnit!

[RP]

I'm really enjoying wrestling again.

[Jordan]

Oh shit now we got The Bucks! Yeahhhhhh!!!! Damn what a show.

[slik]

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[slik]

I legit LOLd at Jericho stealing someone's crutch to use as a weapon

[xrodmuc316]

Lol those superkicks

[Emperor Smeat]

Baw Gawd at those vicious super kicks by Orange Cassidy.

:lol: at the Bucks getting booed for doing a real one to OC.

[Triple A]

Jericho / Cody segment rules...

[Jordan]

I don't know if you guys know this but one day I tweeted to The Young Bucks and said "I want to live my life like The Young Bucks Wrestle" and then Matt replied and said "Than you must live everyday as your last" and then CM Punk said "Spelling" and then it blew up a little bit and Matt deleted it.

[Triple A]

lol this rules.........

[rez]

lol slothlike

[rez]

aww tony/jr bonding with excalibur <3

[slik]

#AEWDynamite is now the #1 trend in the U.S. on Twitter

[Emperor Smeat]

Nice of Chuckie T. to give the ref a hug.

Sure it was to distract from OC's interference in the match but its the generosity that counts.

[Emperor Smeat]

Young Bucks vs Best Friends was pretty good overall

[slik]

This show is INSANE tonight, love it

[slik]

#AEWDynamite is now the #1 trend in the U.S. on Twitter

Note - NXT is not trending at all

[RP]

Jaymie Hater is out of control!!!

[Evil Vito]

This show is so fucking good

[ClockShot]

HA!

Steeley in the house.

[Evil Vito]

Please let Bea Priestley be in the Steelers mascot costume!

[rez]

hahhahahha. mascot

[xrodmuc316]

Ewww, I hate Britt Baker now. Steelers suck

[Evil Vito]

Britt is fit

[rez]

WWE would never let their peeps dress for their hometown these days (mostly lose at them).

[Emperor Smeat]

Note - NXT is not trending at all

Wouldn't be surprised if both AEW and NXT suffer big drops this week because of the World Series but NXT has a bigger drop percentage wise due to them being affected the most in terms of losing older viewers.

[rez]

Ewww, I hate Britt Baker now. Steelers suck

Hate the Penguins and Steelers but love the city.

[rez]

Wouldn't be surprised if both AEW and NXT suffer big drops this week because of the World Series but NXT has a bigger drop percentage wise due to them being affected the most in terms of losing older viewers.

Also season opener NBA games tonight.

[Triple A]

Love this show . . .

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Hayter doing a wet willy to Brit.

[Emperor Smeat]

Also season opener NBA games tonight.

Yeah tonight's shows are going to get hammered in ratings.

[rez]

It'd serve Cesaro well to join AEW.

[Jordan]

Who is Jamie Hayter and she's really good.

[Jordan]

Good match from Britt and Jamie.

[RP]

Lock Jaw sign

[Emperor Smeat]

Brit vs. Hayter was decent to good.

Something still feels a bit off with Brit's matches in AEW. Hopefully she eventually finds her groove since you can tell AEW still wants her to be their big face star of the division after Kylie left.

[Triple A]

Hayter is good

[Evil Vito]

Brandi Rhodes has CENA NUFF!

[Evil Vito]

I like Britt Baker but they’re trying to force the issue with her being a huge star in the division and I think the crowd will inevitably turn on her as a result. Let it happen organically.

[slik]

They should scrap the women's division, it sucks

[RP]

is Lock Jaw at the show or was that just a random Lock Jaw sign?

[Evil Vito]

They should scrap the women's division, it sucks

Would cause a lot of really bad PR given all of Cody/Brandi/Kenny/Tony Khan’s talk about the women’s division being a focal point of the show.

[RP]

WAIT A DAMN MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Evil Vito]

is Lock Jaw at the show or was that just a random Lock Jaw sign?

I thought I remember someone on here saying they were going next week

But haven’t seen a TPWW sign

[Jordan]

"DOES THIS BASTARD EVEN WANT TO GET A PINFALL"

Tony is my MOTHA FUCKIN MAN

[slik]

PAC IS A DAMN JEZEBEL TONEE

[slik]

Charlotte and Ronda are probably the only good women's wrestlers in wrestling today tbh

[slik]

Sometimes Niabetes and Sasha and Bex have moments tho!!

[slik]

And Asuka

[Jordan]

PAC is amazing.

[Emperor Smeat]

Charlotte and Ronda are probably the only good women's wrestlers in wrestling today tbh
Maybe if you only count WWE and AEW but Japan, the UK/Australia, and Impact in general have a bunch of really good women wrestlers. Even AAA as well.

US Indies scene has several good ones as well although the pool of quality talent is pretty small.

[Triple A]

Sensing a TV time limit draw...

[ClockShot]

Falcon Arrow from the top rope.

You don't see that everyday.

[rez]

It's still so surreal to have rasslin back on TNT.

WWE bounced all over the place with USA, SpikeTV and SD on CW at one point.

[slik]

Really great Falcon Arrow from PAC

[ClockShot]

1 MINUTE!

[ClockShot]

PIN HIM!

[ClockShot]

Draw.

[Triple A]

Not a bad way to do a draw if they're gonna do it

[Jordan]

I think that was the best wrestling tv show I can remember.

[slik]

Another terrific episode of AEW

Fun, Fast & Fresh!

Some HOT Feuds brewing too!

[rez]

mmmmmmm Jameela Jamil

[RP]

lame ending

[Evil Vito]

That was always heading to a draw, I didn’t see either guy eating a pin yet. Smart move to have Mox DDT the ref though to avoid the show going off the air with the crowd booing.

[Jordan]

PAC with the 450 from the apron to the floor with a thud oh man that was sick! Mox's time in NJPW really shows. His is the fucking man. And PAC is a BASTARD no doubt. What a great heel. They are working him really well, he's a main guy.

[Emperor Smeat]

Moxley vs PAC was decent. Big gamble doing a time limit draw but felt the match would have better if they started it off sooner since the flow felt pretty flat at times and also didn't help they had very little time to work with.

Overall this week's show was very good and entertaining overall.

[rez]

Misery Index def seems scripted for a game show but fuck it. Jameela

[BigCrippyZ]

Damn, this show is (obviously) not perfect and has its flaws, but it's just as good, if not better, every week, than the previous week's show.

[xrodmuc316]

I'm not a fan of the draw to end the show. It works in some spots, but just not a fan.of it at the end.

To me personally, Pac is best guy they have. I know booking wise there are many talents AEW is going to put ahead of him in the pecking order, but to me Pac is firing on all cylinders. I would love if they pulled an audible and went all the way with Pac.

[Lock Jaw]

Just finished watching... another good show from AEW.

My random thought....

I had pretty much forgot that Pac/Mox was happening until they mentioned it, very late into the show (but there was so much else going on that I didn't mind). If it was WWE, they would have constantly been telling us that was the main event, and they definitely would have replayed what happened last week at least 3 times through the show. Kind of "refreshing" that they didn't replay it at all, and just talked about what happened.

[Lock Jaw]

is Lock Jaw at the show or was that just a random Lock Jaw sign?

It was a sign for Dr. Britt Baker, whose finishing maneuver is named after Yours Truly.


(Sadly, not even that can make me a big fan of Baker.... I think the woman's match went on too long)

[Droford]

I tore up my lock jaw nation sign or I'd bring it to Full Gear

[Emperor Smeat]

Post-show segment between Moxley, PAC, Omega, and Hangman Page after Dynamite went off the air.

https://streamable.com/pw50t

[Fignuts]

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https://i.imgur.com/YiNNUhX.png

[slik]

I liked the ending

They've advertised time limit draws will happen sometimes -- it's the opposite of WWE advertising something like HIAC and using a non-finish, you know going in sometimes a draw will happen and it was the right call here as both stayed strong

[Jordan]

I think the draw was a great call. Dramatic finish was nice. But now after Full Gear these two can work a program together to see who gets the W.

[Simple Fan]

Only problem I had with the draw was that you seen it coming. Was watching with a friend of mine that isn't a wrestling fan and he knew it was ending in a draw. The attack beforehand kind of backfired on them with the time limit I think.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Predictable isn't always bad if it's the right decision to move things forward. It can be done better in execution next time, but the point of TV is building to something bigger. Giving away a finish to such a marquee match on free television IMO would be the wrong move.

Maybe they need to not bother with draws? But, it's an oldschool NWA television staple and see where they're coming from.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/V56XDxW.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Only real issue I had with the time limit draw was the show abruptly ending afterwards and not letting what happened simmer a bit more before going off the air. They managed to get in a shot of Moxley being visually upset over the draw but it was very brief.

The post-show stuff would have been a better way to go off the air since it gave more time for what had just happened to sink in and also advanced several storylines at the same time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I haven't watched the most recent dynamite -- but from what I've watched, it's an exciting product with a great atmosphere, far trumping that of NXT's.

However, I wish they'd slow down a bit. Too many nearfalls and formulaic high spots. They should take a look at what's happening on Powerrr.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ricky and Morty show up next week. lol

[Triple A]

I haven't watched the most recent dynamite -- but from what I've watched, it's an exciting product with a great atmosphere, far trumping that of NXT's.

However, I wish they'd slow down a bit. Too many nearfalls and formulaic high spots. They should take a look at what's happening on Powerrr.

I only saw the first episode of NWA Powerrr and the wrestling seemed "OK" but mostly just felt like fast forwarding through it... The rest of the show was way more interesting and most of the actual wrestling seemed like filler kinda

If the crowd is going insane for most of the matches AEW is putting on, why should they change the style? imo...

It will get played out if they keep doing the same thing over and over, but I think a lot of the match styles are very different anyway, unlike WWE where like 99% of matches feel exactly the same. And I feel like they're smart enough to adapt if they feel like the crowd is losing interest in their style(s)

[Droford]

Ricky and Morty show up next week. lol
Uh..

...

[Simple Fan]

Predictable isn't always bad if it's the right decision to move things forward. It can be done better in execution next time, but the point of TV is building to something bigger. Giving away a finish to such a marquee match on free television IMO would be the wrong move.

Maybe they need to not bother with draws? But, it's an oldschool NWA television staple and see where they're coming from.

I m not saying it was the wrong decision. Kind of the opposite, if someone not used to wrestling can tell it's going to be a draw. I guess they did a good job of putting both over to point he was fine with it. I dont think he's the best judgement though as he's kind of just along for anything I'm watching just to get beer and weed but he seen it coming.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I only saw the first episode of NWA Powerrr and the wrestling seemed "OK" but mostly just felt like fast forwarding through it... The rest of the show was way more interesting and most of the actual wrestling seemed like filler kinda

If the crowd is going insane for most of the matches AEW is putting on, why should they change the style? imo...

It will get played out if they keep doing the same thing over and over, but I think a lot of the match styles are very different anyway, unlike WWE where like 99% of matches feel exactly the same. And I feel like they're smart enough to adapt if they feel like the crowd is losing interest in their style(s)

I just think it's dumb to have 850 near falls with guys kicking out of ridiculous moves during a 15-minute television match. You can have a fast-paced exciting match without piling on the high impact stuff. Yeah, Powerrr's wrestling isn't 5-stars, but t.v. wrestling doesn't need to be. Everything that happens in a Powerrr match is done with a purpose. Of course, the wrestlers in AEW are better and the matches will always be better than Powerrr, but there are still pointers AEW can take from the product.

This high spot shit happened with WWE. Eventually, you hit a ceiling with how ridiculous you can be in a match and fans stop reacting. Even now, they're killing themselves for fans who'd still cheer if they took it down about 5 - 10 notches.

And if you haven't noticed, while the fans are hot because the product has tremendous equity, they ALWAYS go two or three near falls too far and the crowd is never as hot for the finish as they should be. My problem is the fact that instead of near falls happening because they make sense and tell a story, it's just a tickbox because 'that's what you do' in wrestling.

At the end of the day I'm a fan of what AEW is doing. They get an 'A' from me just for being fresh and exciting and giving us a vastly superior product to WWE. BUT, that doesn't mean they're beyond criticism.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

plus the whole point of nearfalls is for you to buy them. If you just expect 7-8 per match, it becomes much more difficult to get sucked in. The fans in attendance play along because they love AEW, but at home it gets pretty tiresome.

[Lock Jaw]

Agree... that's why I stopped watching Lucha Underground... just got "burned out" on that style....

So far in AEW that style seems mostly confined to the tag matches though. (Though when you have a card full of tag matches is when you run into problems)

[Jordan]

I don't mind multiple near falls... it's one of the most exciting dramatic aspects of wrestling. I do however roll my eyes when the near falls are after crazy moves that are like 10x more impactful than a wrestlers finish.

Also I don't like all wrestlers using the same finish in every match, that's bullshit. If I were AEW I'd book like 3 guys to use a finisher the majority of their matches, Jericho, Kenny, and Mox. That would make their finishes SUPER over. And eventually you'd have a guy who kicks out and beats them with a move that becomes their finisher....

There are so many amazing moves already performed in the AEW ring, so many of them could have been finishers... so yeah it's a personal preference and kind of a fantasy of mine, it won't likely happen but I would love it.

[Jordan]

Also I LOVE Cody, dude is the best babyface in wrestling by far right now.... but the disaster kick has GOT TO GO. He does it so poorly, it looks so weak... I just wish he'd scrap it or decide to do it better somehow.

[Jordan]

I want to talk about the moment where Jericho has locked him and his Inner Circle in that VIP area and Cody motioned to his buddy MJF and MJF handed over scarf and Cody wrapped is hand in it and reached back and shattered the glass. I though that moment was so fucking cool, so bad ass, I popped so hard.... I just had to say that. Awesome moment.