Monday Night RAW 11/19/2019 - Seth Rollins versus Andrade

[GD]

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Seth Freakin' Rollins vs Andrade (w/ Zelina Vega)

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RAW Women's Champion Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair to compete in tag team action, playas!

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RAW Tag Team Championship Match
RAW Tag Team Champions The Viking Raiders vs Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins

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Natalya vs WWE Women's Tag Team Champion Asuka

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Rey Mysterio makes an appearance

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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seth Rollins take on <a href="https://twitter.com/AndradeCienWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AndradeCienWWE</a>. <br>&quot;Two men who wish they were as over as their girlfriends&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JRsBBQ</a>, in between sips of a Mule.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1196562635854139393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

had to look up if this was even live and they were back state side

[Jordan]

The Iconics are so hot.

[rez]

Fuck Becky up!

[rez]

What's Joe doing in the Impact Zone?

and...commercial

[GD]

Joe is back and we go straight to commercial :nono:

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Joe interrupting the women's segment.

That opening segment was bad.

[Jordan]

I thought it was just Sling that cut to random commercial... wtf is about to happen with that big bastard Samoa Joe and these beautiful women? He wouldn't... would he?

[Jordan]

Okay that was a really stupid way to bring Joe out for commentary.

[GD]

Is Dio Maddin gone for good?

[Jordan]

Is Dio Maddin gone for good?

I've not herd that but it would seem so.

[RP]

Whats the main event on AEW tomorrow?

[Jordan]

Did Shayna just kick Becky in the pussy?

[rez]

Who do these security guards think they are ? Are they on Trips payroll?!

[GD]

Damn, Becky and Shayna make contact.

[Jordan]

Whats the main event on AEW tomorrow?

Either Mox vs Allin or Nick Jackson vs Rey Fenix.

[slik]

anticlimatic attack

[GD]

No jobber division run in?

[Emperor Smeat]

Is Dio Maddin gone for good?

Feels like it even though he wasn't that bad in the booth. Him and Joseph just needed more time to gel and be comfortable in their new roles on RAW.

[GD]

Are the ladies going to beat up the indie security?

[Jordan]

I enjoyed the opening 20 min of Raw.

[GD]

Feels like it even though he wasn't that bad in the booth. Him and Phillips just needed more time to gel and be comfortable in their new roles on RAW.

Joseph, dawg.

[GD]

Wouldn't mind Philips on RAW.

[rez]

Vince logic. Make his main brands look like punk ass bitches to try to beat AEW in the million viewer wednesday wars.

[Jordan]

Wouldn't mind Philips on RAW.

Yeah that would be a good idea.

[GD]

Booooooooom!

[Jordan]

I bet they are going to have AOP wrestling in suits.

[Jordan]

If AOP get a title shot tonight ... :nono:

[GD]

Karl Anderson getting a singles match on RAW.

[rez]

sup Gohan

[slik]

AOP should wrestle as Tugboat Cosplayers

[Jordan]

Haven't seen a lot of Humberto... he has "it" though.

[slik]

I predict that RAW ends with multiple people from all three brands fighting bc they do that every year for Survivor Series go home shows.

[slik]

Humberto seems good but I feel like Buddy Murphy and Mustafa did too so I assume Humberto will be doing nothing in 3 months

[Emperor Smeat]

Creative really sucks at doing any real long term plans.

2 weeks ago, they supposedly didn't want Carrillo to pin Styles because the plan was for Style and the OC to look strong going into their NXT stuff and keep it going for Styles match at Survivor Series. Also didn't want to start a Carrillo-Styles feud till after the event.

Then decided last week to scrap making the OC look strong and had Carrillo pin Styles despite not being able to have the title match at Survivor Series since Styles was already booked for the champs triple threat match.

[Emperor Smeat]

I predict that RAW ends with multiple people from all three brands fighting bc they do that every year for Survivor Series go home shows.

Going to be dumb if Smackdown gets involved since they haven't built up any real bad blood between RAW and SD for the PPV outside of Bayley showing up last week.

[slik]

Instantly depressed at sight of super face Seth

[GD]

Wait what? Sonya Deville is gay? When did that happen? sarcasm

[Jordan]

Wait what? Sonya Deville is gay? When did that happen? sarcasm

She was born that way.

[GD]

Wait what? Sonya Deville is gay? When did that happen? sarcasm

She was born that way.

Didn't you see the sarcasm when you quoted the post? Total Divas has been hammering the fact for weeks now.

[GD]

I mean there's literal "sarcasm" in that post.

[rez]

Guru Dave watches Total Divas!!!!

[GD]

Poor No Way Jose.

[GD]

Guru Dave watches Total Divas!!!!

I definitely watch the commercials.

[GD]

The Master Lock returns

[Emperor Smeat]

This Lana infidelity angle gets worse each week.

[rez]

Vince is jacking off to those make out sessions as I type

[rez]

Bobby Lashley tongue hockey and some Viagra

[Jordan]

LOL sorry Dave.

[Emperor Smeat]

People have made fun of FOX for being that crazy to spend a huge sum of money for Smackdown and getting little good in return but USA Network paid even more to keep RAW and its been constantly bad way longer even with Heyman on board.

[slik]

Randomly pictured Guru Dave getting a RKO from SlickyTrickyDamon in a backyard trampoline match

[rez]

I think Vega is getting less hot

[slik]

owenbrown wrestling dave wadding and dave bust out the cheese grater on owen's forehead

[Droford]

Is Dio Maddin gone for good?

Brock Killed him

[rez]

Hopefully Rollins loses

[slik]

I wonder if Samoa Joseph is retired now and will be doing commentary full-time

[Emperor Smeat]

Those "Burn It Down" chants sounded like they were pipped in.

[slik]

confused by what is on the back of Seth's gear

[Droford]

Lucha house party lol

[Droford]

I wonder if Samoa Joseph is retired now and will be doing commentary full-time

Last week on backstage he said he was a couple weeks away from coming back

[slik]

Lucha House Party had CENA NUFF

[Emperor Smeat]

:| Lucha House Party random invasion.

Guess WWE finally realized they forgot to build any RAW vs. SD beef for Survivor Series since all the focus went to NXT.

[Droford]

Lol

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at LHP heading to the back.

Wouldn't the rest of the RAW roster just beat them up backstage for invading?

[Droford]

Hey look its one of the 5 men from team NXT

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Black

[Droford]

Survivor Series being in Chicago ...

[slik]

slik is a mark for Tozawa but baffled at so many of these people appearing on the go home show...ratings could plummet (again)

[Emperor Smeat]

Buddy Murphy's old theme was a lot better than this new one he has.

[Emperor Smeat]

slik is a mark for Tozawa but baffled at so many of these people appearing on the go home show...ratings could plummet (again)

Outside of Rollins vs. Andrade and Carrillo vs. Anderson matches, its been a pretty dull show soo far. Guess par for the course for both RAW and RAW go-home shows in general.

[Jordan]

Good match from Murphy and Tozawa.

[Jordan]

What the hell was that with Rowan?

[slik]

ok....at aleister/buddy

[Droford]

The jobber should have landed on the Singh bro and pinned him

[Droford]

I saw an AEW shirt.. security being lax

[Emperor Smeat]

That NXT ad reminded me how the build for the Men's War Games has been a bit of a mess.

Riddle suddenly starts tagging with Lee despite Lee's feud with Dijakovic hinting at those two being a team and Dijakovic doesn't even get a spot in the War Games despite having an actual reason to hate UE.

Took a Gargano injury for Riddle to get removed from the match that he was only put in for the sake of it and Dijakovic being his replacement when Dijakovic should have been in it from the start.

[rez]

Rowan got the little lungs in a big big world in that cage.

[slik]

I legit thought that jobber was James Ellsworth for a sec

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Iiconics, No Way Jose, Akira Tozawa, Buddy Murphy, Lucha House Party, Erick Rowan and the Bollywood Boys. Is this <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a>'s idea of a good <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> go-home show to Survivor Series?</p>&mdash; Brad Shepard of ProSportsExtra.com (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1196618753989062658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Iiconics, No Way Jose, Akira Tozawa, Buddy Murphy, Lucha House Party, Erick Rowan and the Bollywood Boys. Is this <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a>'s idea of a good <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> go-home show to Survivor Series?</p>&mdash; Brad Shepard of ProSportsExtra.com (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1196618753989062658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:drool:

[slik]

Samoa Joe trending at #17 worldwide on Twitter the only WWE trend all night so far

[Emperor Smeat]

Joe has a point about it makes no sense for Team RAW members to be beating up each other for no reason.

At least with Corbin having Roode & Ziggy beat up G and Ali, it was due to him saying he didn't want G and Ali on his team.

[slik]

This is currently trending on Twitter


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This dude straight up ripped a hardcore fart on Live television. <br><br>You can even see him pause for a split second to push it out. <br><br>Reportedly unedited footage. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ericswalwell?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ericswalwell</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fartgate?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fartgate</a> <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/ktkTxUqEt4">pic.twitter.com/ktkTxUqEt4</a></p>&mdash; Gigameg (@dadetrading) <a href="https://twitter.com/dadetrading/status/1196613656835805186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Samoa Joe trending at #17 worldwide on Twitter the only WWE trend all night so far

Is Tony Kahn still trending since that burn he gave to Orton on Twitter was amazing.

Even got PWI's Dave Scherer to look foolish by claiming it was Orton who won their Twitter feud because he completely bought WWE's excuse for the Saudi situation and has made it clear he doesn't like AEW.

[slik]

I'm amazed PMalware Insider has lasted this long

If they ever lose Mike Johnson they're done, he's the only good thing they have

[slik]

Drew vs KO pretty good

[Volare]

Is Tony Kahn still trending since that burn he gave to Orton on Twitter was amazing.

Even got PWI's Dave Scherer to look foolish by claiming it was Orton who won their Twitter feud because he completely bought WWE's excuse for the Saudi situation and has made it clear he doesn't like AEW.

Just read it, well played by Tony.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at going to commercial shortly after Triple H's music interrupted the match.

Also such a flat and terrible ending to a great match.


I'm amazed PMalware Insider has lasted this long

If they ever lose Mike Johnson they're done, he's the only good thing they have
If I remember correctly, Google on at least one occasion gave their website a malware warning screen because of how riddled their website was and still is with ads and pop-ups. Pretty much a textbook example of why ad block and No Script apps exists.

[slik]

I have no idea who any of the NXT people w/ HHH are

[GD]

I have no idea who any of the NXT people w/ HHH are

:nono:

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE is soo going to end up killing whatever lingering appeal NXT has the more they keep teasing main roster guys going back to the brand.

It already lost its edge as the best alternative to main WWE and being the hip show for younger wrestling fans due to AEW existing.

[rez]

Trip..get yo boys on a leash. You just about had KO

[Emperor Smeat]

Somehow WWE managed to make that RAW vs. NXT brawl feel a lot less interesting than it should have been.

[Triple A]

Is Tony Kahn still trending since that burn he gave to Orton on Twitter was amazing.

Even got PWI's Dave Scherer to look foolish by claiming it was Orton who won their Twitter feud because he completely bought WWE's excuse for the Saudi situation and has made it clear he doesn't like AEW.

Dave Scherer is one of the absolute dumbest guys in the "IWC"... Giant moron who has horrible takes on everything and always says them in a really confident way

[slik]

And just like that Humberto loves the WWE Universe

[slik]

I agree w Smeat


How is a storyline that NXT isn't good enough on it's own and needs the main roster for help supposed to make people want to watch NXT

[rez]

RAW versus NXT just seems to be OC versus NXT

[rez]

I hate it when Rey talks

[GD]

Is there some auditory disturbance?

[Emperor Smeat]

Dave Scherer is one of the absolute dumbest guys in the "IWC"... giant moron who has horrible takes on everything

He used to be a lot more tamer and a great side reporter for the site but then decided to become a lot more obnoxious after picking a side in the AEW vs. NXT war.

Even him taking over the weekly Q&A articles dragged down its quality because he can't help but to throw a dig at AEW or people complaining about WWE's booking from time to time.

[rez]

awww yis. here comes the sexy time good wrestling

[Triple A]

Yeah Mike Johnson is great. Feel like he is probably embarrassed whenever Dave Scherer posts

[rez]

no pirate :(

[Emperor Smeat]

Is there some auditory disturbance?

Sounds like some sort of messed up dial tone from the days of using the phone line for internet.

[rez]

pirate is the new demon balor :(

[Jordan]

Yeah Mike Johnson is great. Feel like he is probably embarrassed whenever Dave Scherer posts

I only pay for The Observer. Never took a month off to try out PWI or Torch. Should I? I mean I've herd Wade on pod casts and they are no where near the level of The Observer podcasts. Plus the Observer itself is THE sheet.

[GD]

Wow! Natalya always gets the loudest and most craziest reactions when she makes her entrance. Such a pioneer.

[GD]

I need to take a break from weekly WWE programming.

[slik]

I only pay for The Observer. Never took a month off to try out PWI or Torch. Should I? I mean I've herd Wade on pod casts and they are no where near the level of The Observer podcasts. Plus the Observer itself is THE sheet.

IMO they aren't really worth it. Wade just posts the analysis he does on his website of RAW, SD, AEW, NXT etc each week. Wade is a really smart guy but he doesn't really 'break news'.

PWInsider is 100% not worth it, at all

[Droford]

I have no idea who any of the NXT people w/ HHH are

It was Damien Priest, Dominic Dijakovic (sp?) And the Forgotten Sons (Wesley Blake Steve Cutler and Jaxson Ryker)

[Triple A]

I only pay for The Observer. Never took a month off to try out PWI or Torch. Should I? I mean I've herd Wade on pod casts and they are no where near the level of The Observer podcasts. Plus the Observer itself is THE sheet.

Meltzer and Mike Johnson are by far the two best reporters imo... I only pay for Meltzer though, PWInsider posts most stuff on the free site

PWInsider is unusable without an ad blocker and that is probably Dave Scherer's doing I'm assuming because it's been like that forever, before Mike Johnson, and Scherer just seems like the type of guy to put literally like 40 ads on each page

[rez]

literally none of the fans in the first few rows all around the ring had any positive reactions.

[GD]

no pirate :(

She abandoned that a while back.

[GD]

Wow! The crowd erupts. I'm so glad to be watching Monday Nitro tonight.

[rez]

Meltzer and Mike Johnson are by far the two best reporters imo

PWInsider is unusable without an ad blocker and that is probably Dave Scherer's doing I'm assuming because it's been like that forever, before Mike Johnson and Scherer just seems like the type of guy to put literally like 40 ads on each page

You should fight them in real life. I'll fly out and be in your corner...

[rez]

She abandoned that a while back.

I thought she randomly brought it back the week before the UK week.

[slik]

Asuka/Kairi one of the best parts of RAW imo each week

[GD]

Asuka/Kairi one of the best parts of RAW imo each week

I absolutely love it when the crowd erupts during their entrance. Pandemonium.

[rez]

2019. The year Survivor Series ended forever.

[Droford]

The Denny's Super Slam reminds me of the John Cena Prank call

[Emperor Smeat]

I only pay for The Observer. Never took a month off to try out PWI or Torch. Should I? I mean I've herd Wade on pod casts and they are no where near the level of The Observer podcasts. Plus the Observer itself is THE sheet.

Keller's pretty good if you want to listen to analytical stuff but like Slik mentioned, he doesn't really report or break news at a level of Meltzer, Johnson, and even Fightful's Sapp and Post Wrestling's Pollock. Even he joked at a past Starrcast convention that he probably only has ever broken the news twice during his career.

For a long time, him and Meltzer used to be the go-to guys for detailed ratings reports and the sole guy for a long while after Meltzer stopped doing it until recently again.

[rez]

but what a time to be alive...AEW

BASH AT THE BEACH.

[KIRA]

That NXT ad reminded me how the build for the Men's War Games has been a bit of a mess.

Riddle suddenly starts tagging with Lee despite Lee's feud with Dijakovic hinting at those two being a team and Dijakovic doesn't even get a spot in the War Games despite having an actual reason to hate UE.

Took a Gargano injury for Riddle to get removed from the match that he was only put in for the sake of it and Dijakovic being his replacement when Dijakovic should have been in it from the start.

I mean at least they fixed it

[GD]

Whoa! Ricochet :eek: really? Wow! That was unexpected.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">lol<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/lw4DvqceAb">pic.twitter.com/lw4DvqceAb</a></p>&mdash; WrestlingINC.com (@WrestlingInc) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc/status/1196635537114894336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

Whoa! Ricochet :eek: really? Wow! That was unexpected.

not

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE has such a dumb way to reveal mystery partners in tag matches these days.

Not sure why they keep doing it as one guy comes out, then the other team, and then the mystery guy instead of the other team comes out first, then the guy, and then the mystery partner.

[rez]

I'm guessing that the RKO is coming for Ricky

[rez]

lol. why

[slik]

I predict that RAW ends with multiple people from all three brands fighting bc they do that every year for Survivor Series go home shows.

[rez]

This is a train wreck I can't look away from

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the Smackdown theme playing for the SD invasion.

[slik]

Very 'not good' camera work during this brawl to end RAW

[Emperor Smeat]

This brand warfare brawl is soo bad.

[slik]

OMG this camera work is awful

[rez]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

That was so horrible

[Evil Vito]

Brand warfare is so fucking dumb

[Emperor Smeat]

NXT might have more guys in this brawl than RAW and SD has combined which makes no sense at all.

[Jordan]

3 hours is too much.

[rez]

Brand warfare is so fucking dumb

yeah but on a whole notha level of dumb. No reason for SD to attack RAW with NXT slithering...oh fuck it. why even talk about it :n:

[Evil Vito]

Ciampa, Riddle, and Lee having to continually side with Undisputed Era in these brawls is so ridiculously dumb.

[Emperor Smeat]

That might have been the most lame brand warfare brawl since WWE started doing them for Survivor Series builds.

Also if NXT somehow doesn't beat AEW this week after Triple H making it clear as day a massive invasion is going to happen, then that's a huge indictment of how badly the WWE stink has rubbed onto NXT ever since the Wednesday War started.

[slik]

I don't know that this will get the big nxt bump they think it will

but I am surprised it took this long

TUNE IN WED AND FRI TO SEE BOTH SHOWS ENDS JUST LIKE THIS AGAIN

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dumb ass red light for Drew McIntyre vs Bray Wyatt for the Universal Championship inside a steel cage after <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raw</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/nCSy8gUZwS">pic.twitter.com/nCSy8gUZwS</a></p>&mdash; Matt Degnan (@degnan_matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/degnan_matt/status/1196641105112117248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Gerard]

I thought mysterio was meant to be on raw last night?

[Sting Fan]

I kind of get HHH as the face of NXT but surely someone on the roster could have got a rub stepping up to lead NXT vs. the world. Feels like another McMahon has to be the face of it all.

Super excited for Vince and Steph to take on a brand each next week and make it a full on Mc Mahon family feud..

[Droford]

I thought mysterio was meant to be on raw last night?

He gave a pretty good backstage interview