Mauro Ranallo deactivates Twitter after criticism from Corey Graves

[Triple A]

Already posted in the Survivor Series thread but might as well post as a thread...

Mauro deactivated or deleted his Twitter account after Graves posted this...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just for the record guys, I know you wouldn’t know it, but there’s actually a WWE Hall of Famer AND a former Ring of Honor Champion on commentary.<br><br>I’d imagine they have a lot to offer.<br><br>��█♂️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTTakeoverWarGames?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXTTakeoverWarGames</a></p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1198414519556562944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Far, far too many.</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1198428291251810304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He wasn't at Survivor Series and Michael Cole said it was because he "blew out his voice" at TakeOver and he'll be back on NXT on Wednesday

[Triple A]

Kinda wonder if company man Graves was used by "higher ups" at WWE to "send Mauro a message"

Isn't that what was revealed they were doing last time when JBL bashed him on that WWE Network show, which led to him leaving the SmackDown team...?

Or maybe I'm mixing it up with when Graves was used to "send a message" to Enzo Amore on that same show

[Evil Vito]

Mauro sucked at Takeover, but deactivating Twitter is probably the right move for him. Social media in general is a cesspool for anyone with mental health issues.

[Destor]

Ranallo is a very good commentator but man...he's such a bitch

[xrodmuc316]

Kinda wonder if company man Graves was used by "higher ups" at WWE to "send Mauro a message"

Isn't that what was revealed they were doing last time when JBL bashed him on that WWE Network show, which led to him leaving the SmackDown team...?

Or maybe I'm mixing it up with when Graves was used to "send a message" to Enzo Amore on that same show

That was actually a different show, but Enzo flipped it on Graves by shutting down everything he said. Graves sat there like a scared kid while Enzo ate an Apple in his face lol

[Bad News Gertner]

What a giant fucking bitch

[Sepholio]

Oh no my feelings :( I need a sick day.

[Droford]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/672/883/198.gif

in this case i guess Mauro = everyone

[BobbyHeenanJR]

Mauro Pussi is what my dad would have called him if his tongue still worked and he wasn't dead.


Dad was great at intelligent nicknames.

[GD]

Read a lot of decent responses on SquaredCircle. Maybe Mauro was already dealing with something and Corey’s comment was the last straw. Corey’s tweets essentially gave toxic folks a chance to voice there less than stellar opinions on the man. Mauro could’ve brushed away the critique, considering Graves isn’t any better when it comes to talking over Young and Saxton.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davemeltzerWON</a>, you uninformed, false narrative pushing liar.<br><br>My phone works. You’re a “journalist,” right? You can find my number.</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199016032452653058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

Mauro deactivated his account after his coworker Graves publicly shit on him, and Mauro's friend Frank Shamrock said he wanted to punch Graves in the mouth... How is it a lie...

[slik]

I hope Mauro gets fired

[Bad News Gertner]

Just for his awfulness

[Volare]

Again I miss the 90s.

[Sepholio]

Graves didn't "shit" on him, Mauro overreacted AGAIN, and Frank Shamrock isn't just his friend, he's his manager/agent. It's amazing. Mauro "please don't cyber bully me" Ranallo's manager basically trying to cyber bully Corey. Mauro should be fired and Frank Shamrock should have the taste slapped out of his mouth.

[Triple A]

smh @ everyone acting like they wouldn't be pissed or feel bad if they were a commentator (or really at any job) and your "colleague" Corey Graves tweeted that shit about you to all of his followers

Especially considering the possibility that WWE might be using Graves to "send Mauro a message," or if not that, Graves might have some influence that could hurt Mauro's career since he seems to dislike how he does his job. That would give any normal person "anxiety" at least

[Destor]

Its unprofessional to shoot on people on twitter. Its pathetic to cry about it. Both can be true.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I’d love to know how Graves thought this was gonna go when he tweeted that. Yes Mauro is easily triggered, but it’s also well known that he’s easily triggered. So you’re basically punching down on a sympathetic figure who is pretty universally liked in the wrestling and MMA communities. Seems like a bad idea from the start.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you the guy that is simultaneously a “wrestler” and a dirt sheet writer, yet doesn’t ACTUALLY grasp how this world works?</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199053700041445379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll help.... (281) 330-8004 <a href="https://t.co/urfGBd90xt">https://t.co/urfGBd90xt</a></p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/1199060115409833984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

Of course Dave Meltzer tried to put his own spin on it because he's gotta keep his name out there.

Graves barely even went at Mauro anyways, surely nowhere near what other people have said. To think Corey's opinion is that important to Mauro that the slightest criticism from Graves would cause a full scale meltdown where he would no show survivor series is quite the stretch.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll help.... (281) 330-8004 <a href="https://t.co/urfGBd90xt">https://t.co/urfGBd90xt</a></p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/1199060115409833984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL, did Rusev just put Graves number on Twitter??? Classic!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL, did Rusev just put Graves number on Twitter??? Classic!

It’s from a song

[Supreme Olajuwon]

https://static-stereogum-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w1200/s/static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/04/mikejones-828x536.jpg

[xrodmuc316]

It’s from a song

Aww yeah saw in the comments, must have missed that one lol

[Emperor Smeat]

According to PWI, it wasn't just Graves tweet that caused Mauro to deactivate his Twitter account but also all the harassment and negative responses he was getting afterwards from Graves fans and others who hate him online.

Like with Rollins recently, Graves pretty much opened the flood gates for the online abuse to happen all at once towards Mauro.

[Triple A]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you the guy that is simultaneously a “wrestler” and a dirt sheet writer, yet doesn’t ACTUALLY grasp how this world works?</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199053700041445379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What... Horrible comeback by Graves...

[Triple A]

Is Graves trying to say that him shitting on Mauro and causing an avalanche of his fans to attack him is a "work" somehow or something... Towards what end...

[Evil Vito]

Corey Graves is being a corporate shill, just like Seth Rollins

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I've no issue with Ranallo being criticized for his often 'me-first' commentary where he's more focused on getting himself over than the product itself. It's just so beyond unprofessional to do so on Twitter.

Eh, Ranallo might be easily triggered but it seems like it was done TO TRIGGER the guy. It's soft, but I wouldn't love getting destroyed with abuse from the Twitter mob over something into which I pour my heart and soul.

Though I do agree with Destor. At the end of the day just man up and tell the dude to fuck off and to show some professionalism. If Graves has a problem with that, well, then he's as much of a dingus as he seems.

[slik]

It's not that horrible a comeback since Bryan Alvarez is a really bad wrestler

[slik]

The moral of the story is simple:

Mauro sucks

Corey has free speech

Mauro should be fired and can go get a job doing data entry where he doesn't have to worry about his feelings

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bryan's a decent wrestler.

[slik]

LOL no he isn't

I have tried to watch matches he was in YT before and he doesn't know how to work a crowd at all

zero energy/psychology

[GD]

It's not that horrible a comeback since Bryan Alvarez is a really bad wrestler

It's a jab for the sake of a jab. There's no logic behind it nor does it add to the overall argument.

[GD]

The moral of the story is simple:

Mauro sucks

Corey has free speech

Mauro should be fired and can go get a job doing data entry where he doesn't have to worry about his feelings

That's your personal bias.

While Graves has free speech, criticizing his colleague in a public forum was unprofessional. Especially considering that Mauro's issues are well known.

[slik]

People in WWE trash other people in the company publicly all the time

It sounds to me like WWE, his employer, has made reasonable accommodation and now has an employee 'no call no showing'

[slik]

When Mauro returns he definitely deserves to be written up for job abandonment.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

LOL no he isn't

I have tried to watch matches he was in YT before and he doesn't know how to work a crowd at all

zero energy/psychology

I mean he's okay. An indy guy with decent mechanics. He doesn't have the 'it' factor but that doesn't mean he's bad at his other job. Understanding how to connect with a crowd and being able to execute are two vastly different things.

[slik]

I think the solution for this is for Michael Cole to step down effective immediately and to promote Graves to Director of Commentary, Live Television. That way Graves can re-focus the commentary teams in the direction he sees fit and restructure/remove any team as needed.

[GD]

People in WWE trash other people in the company publicly all the time

It sounds to me like WWE, his employer, has made reasonable accommodation and now has an employee 'no call no showing'

You can't defend Corey Graves' crassness because everyone else does the same. While we are at it, which other WWE commentator goes around making petty comments about their coworkers on Twitter?

[slik]

CM Punk

[slik]

I think the solution for this is for Michael Cole to step down effective immediately and to promote Graves to Director of Commentary, Live Television. That way Graves can re-focus the commentary teams in the direction he sees fit and restructure/remove any team as needed.

Graves could also put Mauro on a 'Performance Improvement Plan' so they could track his progress at following established guidelines.

[GD]

Bryan's a decent wrestler.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you the guy that is simultaneously a “wrestler” and a dirt sheet writer, yet doesn’t ACTUALLY grasp how this world works?</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199053700041445379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bryan's a decent wrestler.

LOL no he isn't

I have tried to watch matches he was in YT before and he doesn't know how to work a crowd at all

zero energy/psychology

I mean he's okay. An indy guy with decent mechanics. He doesn't have the 'it' factor but that doesn't mean he's bad at his other job. Understanding how to connect with a crowd and being able to execute are two vastly different things.

Yes, Bryan Alvarez's wrestling ability is in direct correlation to the argument at hand. If only he would've been a better performer, Corey's comments would become inexcusable.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

CM Punk

Punk technically works for Fox.

[slik]

I don't believe for one second he doesn't have a contract w WWE as well, regardless of what he claims

[slik]

Punk rasslin in Tampa in April for sure

[RaginRonic]

I think that Cory here committed an act of social terrorism, in much the same way that Trump committed an act of domestic terrorism in the U.S. when he filed papers to run for the White House in 2016.

And that anyone who thinks or speaks positively about what Cory did is a social terrorist as well who should be locked up for 10-20 in a maximum security gulag.

=P

[BigCrippyZ]

Holy fuck this company is stupid for continuing to employ the dumb fuck, and absolute pussy, that is Corey Graves, while being so "PC" and "anti-bullying", regardless of Mauro's issues. Corey Graves likely wouldn't show up to even have a debate with me, because he's a coward and an idiot, and I'm in a fucking wheelchair.

[Nicky Fives]

Holy fuck this company is stupid for continuing to employ the dumb fuck, and absolute pussy, that is Corey Graves, while being so "PC" and "anti-bullying", regardless of Mauro's issues. Corey Graves likely wouldn't show up to even have a debate with me, because he's a coward and an idiot, and I'm in a fucking wheelchair.

The last time I checked, saying that you don't like someone's style is not "bullying".... Graves can have his opinion and is free to it, probably not the best idea to "shit" on a co-worker like he did, but it seems to me it was more of a "Mauro gets all the love, but don't forget Nigel & Beth are great too" type of Tweet.

But that's not controversial enough and then the hype began....

[Sepholio]

Yep, he was just trying to get his coworkers some attention. Mauro pusses out as per usual and all the SJWs come out the wood work to stick up for their favorite pussy.

Mauro is all MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME and when anyone says anything to him he takes his ball and goes home and cries. He is the worst kind of employee and if WWE knew they wouldn't catch a whole bunch of flak for firing "Mr. Sensitive" he would have been gone a LONG time ago.

[GD]

Yep, he was just trying to get his coworkers some attention. Mauro pusses out as per usual and all the SJWs come out the wood work to stick up for their favorite pussy.

Mauro is all MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME and when anyone says anything to him he takes his ball and goes home and cries. He is the worst kind of employee and if WWE knew they wouldn't catch a whole bunch of flak for firing "Mr. Sensitive" he would have been gone a LONG time ago.

Seph, I'm unsure if you're trying to be cute or edgy but it's not just social justice warriors who recognize the plight of Ranallo. The man suffers from a real ailment. Just because it doesn't manifest in physical form, doesn't make it any less severe. Because of folx like yourself and the stigma surrounding mental health related issues, people are confining themselves in their homes.

Have some compassion, my dude. Just because you do not understand it, does not make it any less real.

[Sepholio]

I love how you say because of folks like me. I'm one of the people who suffers from things like Mauro. He makes us all look bad, like we can't handle life. The stigma is because of people like him. The rest of us just don't get special treatment like he does; we still have to show up and do our jobs and handle our business.

Don't tell me I don't understand it; I've been being treated for it for 20 years. I had to be committed before because I got fucked up by a treatment I was prescribed.

You're the one who doesn't understand. We don't need people making excuses for us. Making us feel like we're lesser and need special treatment. We don't need to be handled with kids gloves.

Fuck Mauro.

[GD]

I love how you say because of folks like me. I'm one of the people who suffers from things like Mauro. He makes us all look bad, like we can't handle life. The stigma is because of people like him. The rest of us just don't get special treatment like he does; we still have to show up and do our jobs and handle our business.

Don't tell me I don't understand it; I've been being treated for it for 20 years. I had to be committed before because I got fucked up by a treatment I was prescribed.

You're the one who doesn't understand. We don't need people making excuses for us. Making us feel like we're lesser and need special treatment. We don't need to be handled with kids gloves.

Fuck Mauro.


I'm sure you understand that just because we don't have his privileges, doesn't make his problems any less significant. "Unlike us", he's in a position where he's able to uphold his boundaries.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dave, I'm not in TOTAL disagreement with you about Mauro as you should garner from my posts. And I think maybe Seph's outlook on this is a bit black and white.

But really, the guy is a bit of a bitch and a huge egotist. Seriously, just tell Graves to shut his googley-eyed pie hole the next time you see him. OR, just be like "dude you're fucking awful as a commentator, who cares what you have to say about anything?"

Graves was all kinds of wrong, but I do wish Mauro didn't whittle into playing the victim. At the end of the day, despite the fact that he spends most of the time getting himself over on commentary, he gets 99 per cent praise on twitter for being the greatest of all time. That should be enough.

[GD]

Dave, I'm not in TOTAL disagreement with you about Mauro as you should garner from my posts. And I think maybe Seph's outlook on this is a bit black and white.

But really, the guy is a bit of a bitch and a huge egotist. Seriously, just tell Graves to shut his googley-eyed pie hole the next time you see him. OR, just be like "dude you're fucking awful as a commentator, who cares what you have to say about anything?"

Graves was all kinds of wrong, but I do wish Mauro didn't whittle into playing the victim. At the end of the day, despite the fact that he spends most of the time getting himself over on commentary, he gets 99 per cent praise on twitter for being the greatest of all time. That should be enough.


Mauro is certainly not without his issues. He's also at an age where learning new coping methods is difficult.

Personally, I would've addressed it in private and would've fulfilled my commitments like a professional but I also understand that he was going through a difficult period prior to the TakeOver special. We are a vicious bunch and are highly critical. We lack empathy to a fault.

Corey's comments unwillingly opened the floodgates for fans to criticize Mauro without any restrictions. If it came down to choosing between "maning up / standing up for myself" vs "just getting through the day without suicidal thoughts or tendencies", I'd pick the latter, not caring if the world thought that I was a "pussy".

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You know there's nothing wrong with getting triggered--it's all about how you react and internalize.

It's possible to be simultaneously get triggered, be super sad about something, but still stand up for yourself and be a man without having a full-on meltdown.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I love the handful of you that think Mauro is a giant egomaniac who always puts himself over and also voluntarily chose to give up his spot on one of the biggest shows of the year.

It’s almost like “suck it up” doesn’t always work.

[Jordan]

If he is so fragile that he can't deal with what Corey said then I am at a loss. I wouldn't say it was an insult, bordering on workplace bullying, but really, it was a criticism. Not common to see heat like that among those at the same company but it's just a tweet. I don't hate Mauro ... but he is so much, he is so over the top pretty much always now. I don't enjoy his work, I don't enjoy Corey's work. I think they are both bitches. I understand that Mauro has bi-polar disorder but I don't know what that has to do with being a big pussy.

[GD]

You know there's nothing wrong with getting triggered--it's all about how you react and internalize.

It's possible to be simultaneously get triggered, be super sad about something, but still stand up for yourself and be a man without having a full-on meltdown.

I want to say that the rules that apply to most of us do not necessarily apply to him because he's essentially "challenged". It's quite a predicament where I don't feel comfortable presenting a solution based on my personal experience.

[Jordan]

Is he on the spectrum as they say? I could see that.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I love the handful of you that think Mauro is a giant egomaniac who always puts himself over and also voluntarily chose to give up his spot on one of the biggest shows of the year.

It’s almost like “suck it up” doesn’t always work.

That's oversimplifying what I'm saying. I suffer from depression and have DEFINITELY bailed on work because of symptoms. Though there are times when - like with any sickness - you have to put on a brave face. I've played rugby games - for instance - both with a brutal fucking sinus infection and with really rough depression.

But I think Mauro is more of an egomaniac than the narrative surrounding him suggests. There's a need to present him as some kind of SUPERHERO. Whereas I've heard rumblings that he's kind of just an irritating cocksucker.

It does get tricky with Mauro though, because he's obviously severely effected. But I feel like there's more people in the world suffering from similar symptoms who deal with similar situations in a superior fashion. Yeah, maybe they do get hit with a wave of suicidal thoughts. Hell, maybe they cry to themselves and have a fucking breakdown/fit. But they grit their teeth and lick their wounds without this kind of shit storm brewing.

At the end of the day, Graves should be disciplined. Nothing should happen to Mauro other than receiving an apology. However, I think Mauro surrounds himself with far too many yes men and isn't great with criticism.

Though, to circle back, Graves clearly highlights the toxic nature of the WWE work environment. Both him and Rollins I feel like probably were both reasonable human beings before being consumed by that despicable culture.

[GD]

If he is so fragile that he can't deal with what Corey said then I am at a loss. I wouldn't say it was an insult, bordering on workplace bullying, but really, it was a criticism. Not common to see heat like that among those at the same company but it's just a tweet. I don't hate Mauro ... but he is so much, he is so over the top pretty much always now. I don't enjoy his work, I don't enjoy Corey's work. I think they are both bitches. I understand that Mauro has bi-polar disorder but I don't know what that has to do with being a big pussy.

I am glad that you are acknowledging your limitation to understand the situation. Imagine knocking down an already injured person and calling him a "pussy" for not fighting back. Not everyone is made the same way.

[Jordan]

Well I wouldn't do that. I read that Graves essentially said the other other two announcers couldnt get a word in edge wise.

[GD]

That's oversimplifying what I'm saying. I suffer from depression and have DEFINITELY bailed on work because of symptoms. Though there are times when - like with any sickness - you have to put on a brave face. I've played rugby games - for instance - both with a brutal fucking sinus infection and with really rough depression.

But I think Mauro is more of an egomaniac than the narrative surrounding him suggests. There's a need to present him as some kind of SUPERHERO. Whereas I've heard rumblings that he's kind of just an irritating cocksucker.

It does get tricky with Mauro though, because he's obviously severely effected. But I feel like there's more people in the world suffering from similar symptoms who deal with similar situations in a superior fashion. Yeah, maybe they do get hit with a wave of suicidal thoughts. Hell, maybe they cry to themselves and have a fucking breakdown/fit. But they grit their teeth and lick their wounds without this kind of shit storm brewing.

At the end of the day, Graves should be disciplined. Nothing should happen to Mauro other than receiving an apology. However, I think Mauro surrounds himself with far too many yes men and isn't great with criticism.

Though, to circle back, Graves clearly highlights the toxic nature of the WWE culture. Both him and Rollins I feel like probably were both reasonable human beings before being consumed by that despicable culture.

Fuck, I wholeheartedly agree with what Dale has to say here. He gets it.

[Jordan]

Taking into consideration Mauro has said to have Bi-Polar disorder, Graves is indeed a dick for publicly saying what he said. I totally see that. I just don't know that taking the big PPV off for what happened seems necessary to me. But you're all right who are in Mauro's mental corner, I'm not him and I don't deal with things the way he does. If WWE is okay with working around his problems then I support that because that's big growth for the E.

[GD]

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[Destor]

Having a public job isnt for him. He should consider commentating high school football for local radio.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Having a public job isnt for him. He should consider commentating high school football for local radio.

As a bleeding heart, it pains me to say that you're right.

[erickman]

or just leave the wwe he was happy at showtime

[Destor]

He'd be great at voice over work. Like national radio spots and the like

[Seanny One Ball]

How long before we get a Bi Polar tag team, one would be North and the other South and they would come out with barber poles just because.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Would’ve been a great gimmick for Enzo and Cass

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love how you say because of folks like me. I'm one of the people who suffers from things like Mauro. He makes us all look bad, like we can't handle life. The stigma is because of people like him. The rest of us just don't get special treatment like he does; we still have to show up and do our jobs and handle our business.

Don't tell me I don't understand it; I've been being treated for it for 20 years. I had to be committed before because I got fucked up by a treatment I was prescribed.

You're the one who doesn't understand. We don't need people making excuses for us. Making us feel like we're lesser and need special treatment. We don't need to be handled with kids gloves.

Fuck Mauro.

Sorry about your struggles, Seph. I hope you have more good days than bad days. But isn't Mauro like one of the premier broadcasters in sports and professional wrestling? Between what he's achieved in life, I'd say he can handle his shit pretty well most days.

Corey saying what he said is just dickish, because he's a dick, and fuck him. Dude fucking sucks at commentary anyway, but hey, that could just be main roster shit. Dude worked hard and seemed good for a while, but he seems to believe his own shit. Anyway, it's just a fucking asshole thing to do when you're in a publicly traded company to shit on someone trying to do their job.

And this has happened before. This whole bullying, condescending, public dressing down shit happened with JBL when Mauro was basically humiliated on SmackDown and PPV each week because Vince would get his jollies off when the big jock wrestler would sandbag Mauro and make him look like shit for making a human error or being enthusiastic. It's got to have a sting of "Not this fucking shit again. Fuck this." It would be surprising if Graves hasn't been pulled up about this, because didn't Mauro sign some sort of non-disclosure thing and that's probably violated by Graves making this an unhappy mess for everyone.

It doesn't seem like Mauro gets any shit from any other company he's worked for. It's just WWE and that fucking culture. And if Graves has the freedom of speech to speak out, which I would argue you don't have the freedom of consequence of if, say, someone were to replace him with someone better because he's a dick and not even that good, then Mauro has got the right to delete his Twitter so he doesn't have to see this shit. Has he even made a statement saying it was about Graves? Not going to Survivor Series aside, he's actually the one being more professional by biting his tongue.

[slik]

I have switched sides and am now #TeamMauro


Hope he feels better soon!!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mauro Ranallo will not be calling NXT on Wednesday night<a href="https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l">https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l</a></p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1199568813769084928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Until you’ve felt it’s power, it’s difficult to understand depression &amp; anxiety.<br><br>It’s very real &amp; even worse without someone to lean on.<br><br>Ask for help, or if someone close to you is suffering, please, just listen. It might make all the difference.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WorldMentalHealthDay?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WorldMentalHealthDay</a></p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1182347524537016321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Bryan Alvarez is a better wrestler than he is a journalist.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He made one comment about Mauro stifling his co-commentators. It's on Mauro for over-reacting to valid critiques.

[slik]

Tom Phillips should be given the chance to call NXT!

[GD]

I have switched sides and am now #TeamMauro


Hope he feels better soon!!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mauro Ranallo will not be calling NXT on Wednesday night<a href="https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l">https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l</a></p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1199568813769084928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope Corey reaches out to him privately and stops doubling down on his stance on Twitter.

[GD]

He made one comment about Mauro stifling his co-commentators. It's on Mauro for over-reacting to valid critiques.

Slicky, have you taken the effort to read a single comment in this thread?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's not wrong but he should reach out if what he said hurt him.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Slicky, have you taken the effort to read a single comment in this thread?

He's said nothing further from what this thread says to Mauro. So, what are you trying to say?

[GD]

He's not wrong but he should reach out if what he said hurt him.

They're working in a publicly traded company and not a part time retail gig, sunshine. You do not publicly humiliate your coworkers. Especially when they have a documented history of mental health related issues.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You can't treat people with kid gloves. This is real life. This to me invalidates whatever JBL said to him and his reaction to it. I now doubt everything.

[slik]

I do think WWE needs to put Mauro on a performance improvement plan when he returns to work


* Remain seated during his job
* Seek management approval prior to pop-culture references
* Let others speak
* Show up to scheduled work shifts


Michael Cole probably going to have 'ream his ass' when Mauro does return.

[GD]

You can't treat people with kid gloves. This is real life. This to me invalidates whatever JBL said to him and his reaction to it. I now doubt everything.

I don't have anything constructive to add here, Slicky.

[GD]

I truly believe Mauro Ranallo would be better off not being in that toxic environment. He doesn't need the WWE.

[erickman]

mauro can never call for the wwe again that is the 2nd time that has happened vince can not trust him. if coach still works there put coach in or tom.

[Emperor Smeat]

Corey Apologizes for his tweets on After the Bell

On his podcast, right at the top of the show he said the following;

“I sent out a tweet. It was an unpopular opinion, as I often do with the intention of just stirring up a little controversy, maybe have something fun to talk about on TV or here on the show. It was maybe not the most professional way to go about things and it was not meant to offend, disrespect or disparage anybody, that was never my intention. If it was taken as such, I apologize deeply, that was not my intention. I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker” and then he went right into reviewing the weekend.

Additionally, the tweets are still up at the time this was released.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/e2d9b6/corey_apologizes_for_his_tweets_on_after_the_bell/

So Graves purposely antagonized Mauro just so he could potentially have something juicy to talk on his podcast show this week going by his apology.

[Sepholio]

Feel like Graves was told to apologize to see if maybe Mauro might show up to work before next year.

[slik]

Oy

[Destor]

I wish i were so fragile people would flock to defend me if anyone criticized me. Its like twitter tenure

[Seanny One Ball]

Call him Corey Grapes, Mauro.

Grapes can't hurt anybody, only dogs.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I wish i were so fragile people would flock to defend me if anyone criticized me. Its like twitter tenure

True.

But in the same breath, I wish I were a gaping asshole of a human so I could hold onto a job in the WWE for life.

[GD]

Sorry not sorry.

[Danny Electric]

I’m looking forward to the next episode of Raw and the part where Graves rips off his face and reveals he was really Bradshaw all along.

[Triple A]

“I sent out a tweet. It was an unpopular opinion, as I often do with the intention of just stirring up a little controversy, maybe have something fun to talk about on TV or here on the show. It was maybe not the most professional way to go about things and it was not meant to offend, disrespect or disparage anybody, that was never my intention. If it was taken as such, I apologize deeply, that was not my intention. I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker”

Disparaging Mauro was "never his intention"... The tweet was obviously publicly disparaging him... Idiotic...

[Triple A]

"I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker"

What did he think was going to happen given Mauro's history... fucking idiot

[Seanny One Ball]

They're working in a publicly traded company and not a part time retail gig, sunshine. You do not publicly humiliate your coworkers. Especially when they have a documented history of mental health related issues.


It's not okay to humiliate any colleague in any workplace, publicly traded or not. Retail part timers don't turn up to work desperate to get dumped on either.

I don't think you can call this an act of humiliation anyway, it's definitely undermining though and that's not really acceptable either. It isn't something an adult should be upset by though, especially if they expect to continue on in an on-screen capacity where they will be judged by millions.

[Seanny One Ball]

You can't treat people with kid gloves. This is real life. This to me invalidates whatever JBL said to him and his reaction to it. I now doubt everything.


JBL is at the heart of everything rotten in the world.

Top heel.

[BobbyHeenanJR]

My dad used to poke Tony Schiavone with an X Acto knife under the table.

It was a different time.

[Seanny One Ball]

Vader Time?

[WinterDecay]

Mauro should have just told Graves to get off his ass and go back to giving Carmella herpes ... and then ended it with Amy and the kids say "Hi"

That is how you deal with assholes ... become a bigger asshole.

[GD]

It's not okay to humiliate any colleague in any workplace, publicly traded or not. Retail part timers don't turn up to work desperate to get dumped on either.

I don't think you can call this an act of humiliation anyway, it's definitely undermining though and that's not really acceptable either. It isn't something an adult should be upset by though, especially if they expect to continue on in an on-screen capacity where they will be judged by millions.

Agreed. I gave the retail example as I thought it’d be something Slicky could relate to.

[Emperor Smeat]

Pro Wrestling Sheet ended up reiterating Graves stance of the comments being nothing more than a joke and the gag would have played out during Survivor Series.

According to sources, Corey wrote those tweets to play into the brand warfare element of Survivor Series and the SmackDown announcer planned to bring them up on commentary in a joking manner when he was joined by Mauro at the desk the following day.

Ever since Satin got hired by WWE for their Backstage show, he pretty much has just regurgitated whatever the official company or person's stance is towards certain issues.

Mauro not being at the event ended up saving everyone from having to hear Graves bicker even more during the show considering how annoying his routine was with Renee and Bryon Saxton.

[Triple A]

Yeah that sounds like "total horseshit" and if it's somehow true, it's absolutely moronic

I don't blame Mauro for not wanting to potentially be blindsided by Corey Graves also attacking him on air

[GD]

I don't have anything constructive to add here, Slicky.

Slicky gave me a green rep with the comment “lol”. I believe he thinks he outwitted me or something.

[Seanny One Ball]

Do you think you outwitted him?

[GD]

Do you think you outwitted him?

I am not here “outwit” Slicky. Just to shake my head is disappointment :nono:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dave absolutely won this point. He won’t celebrate because he’s too humble, but there’s a clear winner here.

[GD]

:nono:

[Evil Vito]

Meltzer is now saying that Mauro is in “rough shape”.

[Volare]

Oh jesus.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

so weird.

Again, respecting the fact that he's supremely mentally ill, how does he take other criticism.

As has been pointed out ad nauseam, Graves was undoubtedly unprofessional. But it's not like he questioned Mauro's character or was like "wow this guy is shit." In fact, in a private conversation if he just said "dawg, some constructive criticism for you: IMO you should ease up on the pop culture references and let your colleagues speak," I don't see much wrong with it.

I don't understand how this could lead to him being in rough shape unless he's just an egomaniac. At the end of the day, just because you're bipolar, doesn't mean you aren't a whackass primadonna.

Don't get me wrong, criticism is always tough, especially the more you pour your heart into something and it's compiled with mental health struggles. But Lordy. Dude is happy to lap up all the positivity on Twitter and fucking retweet the 7 bajillion "MAURO IS THE BEST EVARRRRRRR" tweets -- surely he has the resources and support system to deal with some of the negatives.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Like c'mon, he had his buddy ol' pal/agent/legendary badass, Frank Shamrock, ready to crack skulls on his behalf. I wish I had that kind of support whenever I'm disparaged or criticized.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dale, we’re literally talking about a disorder that causes people to kill themselves for no reason. What is your baseline for an overreaction

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dale, we’re literally talking about a disorder that causes people to kill themselves for no reason. What is your baseline for an overreaction

you make a good point. It's just, where does it end? This situation is relatively innocuous is all I'm saying--albeit somewhat shitty.

Say it was done in a far more professional manner and Mauro flipped out (I know this is strictly hypothetical), then where do we stand on the matter?

I just think of all the bullying that could have come his way, this seems like the most innocuous and least threatening. Just some talentless schmuck trying to ruffle feathers.

I've reacted poorly to criticism where I legit did think about killing myself because I have bouts of depression and panic attacks. I was being unreasonable, and was aware I was being unreasonable. Still, it's how I felt. But nobody other than my inner circle was aware and I kept my shit together for everyone on the outside. I'm not bipolar so I can't put myself in his shoes, but surely if his condition is this bad, this isn't the right environment for him.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

One thing I do wonder is if Mauro skips his meds before calling a show. Part of his charm is him absolutely losing his shit during big moments which could certainly be explained as part of his mania. So I wonder if he either skips or reduces his meds so he could get that high for the show.

I have no information on this and it’s pure speculation.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dave absolutely won this point. He won’t celebrate because he’s too humble, but there’s a clear winner here.


Uh oh, we have a mark in the house

[Seanny One Ball]

Dale, we’re literally talking about a disorder that causes people to kill themselves for no reason.

When weaponized, this is like a cheat code in a game.

No wonder people keep pulling this line out of their asses.

[Seanny One Ball]

I am not here “outwit” Slicky. Just to shake my head is disappointment :nono:

That's no way to win a argument.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Eh I don’t want to be in the toughen up crowd but I do think there’s a need to find ways to cope with the feelings. At the end of the day Mauro has leverage in that they need him more than he needs them. So, I guess he can take all the time he needs.

[Seanny One Ball]

If anyone criticises me for those posts I'm going to kill myself.

Your roll, geniuses.

[Seanny One Ball]

Eh I don’t want to be in the toughen up crowd but I do think there’s a need to find ways to cope with the feelings. At the end of the day Mauro has leverage in that they need him more than he needs them. So, I guess he can take all the time he needs.


It's an unsustainable solution that will snowball in any workplace when the other employees see one being given special treatment.

Mental illness isn't a trump card.

[GD]

That's no way to win a argument.

There was no argument to begin with. Was trying to “reach” an understanding.

[GD]

Correct me if I am wrong, wasn’t Mauro already in a bad space prior to the TakeOver special?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

In fairness to Mauro, he may have not shown up to work or whatever, but he is exemplary at his job. I mean I’m not the hugest fan but the target market loves him and he gives everything he’s got. It’s not like we are dealing with a crap, underperforming employee. Just a highly strung, talented individual. Oftentimes, the 2 go hand in hand.

[Seanny One Ball]

Does anyone here not have a history of taking medication to improve their mental health?

I think a shitload of us do or have previously.

So it does suck hearing that someone is milking it for all its worth when they clearly shouldn't be working there at all considering how many of us get up in the morning and turn up at real jobs where real people say terrible things without thinking.

[Destor]

Meltzer is now saying that Mauro is in “rough shape”.
Meltzer isnt a reliable source. He's tabloids.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's an unsustainable solution that will snowball in any workplace when the other employees see one being given special treatment.

Mental illness isn't a trump card.

Mannnnnn, we’re talking about a company that has Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels in its employ. Let’s not get bogged down in special treatment.

If empathy and human decency aren’t a selling point for you, then value should be. Mauro is the best play by play guy not just in WWE but in all combat sports. Give the guy special treatment.

[Destor]

The take way im having from this thread in Ronallos mental well being is not only the responsibility of Graves but everyone who interacts with him ever.

[Seanny One Ball]

Correct me if I am wrong, wasn’t Mauro already in a bad space prior to the TakeOver special?

Sounds like he is permanently in a bad space, a bad space he guards the gate to and is denying anyone else entry.

[Seanny One Ball]

Just to be open and honest, I am not on board with babying grown adults unless they are in desperate need of help.
A man that can't handle some fairly light criticism should not be in the public eye and the world does not owe him a living.

I'm 33 years old and in ten years I will be considered a dinosaur because of crap like this.

[GD]

I see the merit in your argument. Surely by his age, he should’ve learned some decent coping skills.

[Seanny One Ball]

The end of that thought should be "... if he means to continue as a TV personality and public figure."

I think the "actually I'm not feeling too great either..." generation is in effect.

Stoicism is dead.

[Seanny One Ball]

Plus if I was Cory Graves I'd be off to my doctor to get a prescription to cover my ass ASAP.
Everyone in WWE should. It's worth some time off.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I don’t think workplace bullying is acceptable. Especially how Vince McMahon does it. But this was more just someone being a wang than actual bullying.

[Droford]

If Mauros gonna be triggered every time Graves says stupid shit on Twitter he should quit

[Seanny One Ball]

I don’t think workplace bullying is acceptable. Especially how Vince McMahon does it. But this was more just someone being a wang than actual bullying.


BINGO

[Seanny One Ball]

If Mauros gonna be triggered every time Graves says stupid shit on Twitter he should quit


He won't though.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Remember Seanny, they WANT Mauro working for them. Remember who has the actual power in this dynamic. Mauro can go anywhere he wants but they choose to pay him boatloads.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm aware of that. There would be no issue if they didn't...

[Seanny One Ball]

Mannnnnn, we’re talking about a company that has Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels in its employ. Let’s not get bogged down in special treatment.

If empathy and human decency aren’t a selling point for you, then value should be. Mauro is the best play by play guy not just in WWE but in all combat sports. Give the guy special treatment.


Mauro Ranallo isn't a performer of the caliber or draw that HBK and Hogan were and he arguably hasn't done nearly as much for WWE in his best year as either of them did in their worst.
HBK being a former drug addict definitely has had legitimate mental health issues, so careful how you go if you want to start in on him.

Implying that I'm lacking empathy and human decency is a bit shit bud, I tend to use situations like these to make a point. If you step back you may be able to see the wood for the trees.

[Seanny One Ball]

See this is where it falls down for me.
You basically insulted me there after I said I had previously struggled with my own issues.

So now do you give me a big apology or what? Do I get a few weeks off?
... Or because I'm not on TV do I just go suck an egg?

See? It's unsustainable.
The world doesn't run on "I don't feel up to it".

[Seanny One Ball]

Now does anybody with a brain in their head see what I was working towards there or do I have to keep going and endanger my unblemished "not a cunt" public image?

:shifty:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Mannnnnn, we’re talking about a company that has Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels in its employ. Let’s not get bogged down in special treatment.

If empathy and human decency aren’t a selling point for you, then value should be. Mauro is the best play by play guy not just in WWE but in all combat sports. Give the guy special treatment.

Who is creating this myth that Hogan was a cunt in the WWF? All I've heard is creative control in WCW as a negative towards him in his active career.

[Seanny One Ball]

Hogan was notorious for receiving special treatment in WWE.
Supreme didn't say he was a cunt.

[Sepholio]

Seanny spitting them hard truths.

[Seanny One Ball]

As were you and Destor.

Dale just kicking his legs against either side of the fence.

[BobbyHeenanJR]

My dad used to get piggyback rides from Gorilla Monsoon whenever he felt sad.

He never even had to ask.

[Emperor Smeat]

Post Wrestling's John Pollock had a very good article about this whole incident and his personal experience working with Mauro in the past.

I wanted to speak a bit more about the Mauro Ranallo story but also look at the larger issue of our attitude toward mental health issues. While the overwhelming response to this week’s issue has been a sympathetic one towards Ranallo, who has been open about being bipolar and his struggles, there is still a notable reaction of either indifference or criticizing Ranallo.

For transparency, those that are unaware, I worked with Ranallo from 2006-2009 and have seen him at both his highs and lows, so obviously I am looking at this situation in a different light. But there is also a documentary that Showtime put out that should provide a grasp of his struggles and place into context why this issue was more than just a harmless tweet directed his way.

Had Ranallo missed the Survivor Series because he fell ill or suffered an injury over the weekend, it would be completely accepted as to why he would miss the show. Granted, in pro wrestling, even physical injury and illness are going to be met with the ‘suck it up and work’ mentality but that is lessening. The point is, these are issues we can comprehend – we have all been sick, unable to work and been in situations where our body has shut down and is telling us to slow down and recover so we can return to work in an efficient manner. With mental health, it isn’t detectable on sight, nor do we have all share in the same experiences of what someone suffering is dealing with. This is not a case of someone that needs to ‘get over it’ or is too sensitive or can’t handle the job. We need to get past this concept that ignoring the pain and repressing emotion is somehow ‘soft’. Mauro is hurt, he is damaged, and he is getting himself better and that should not be a debated point. Again, I’m speaking to the minority, but that sentiment is out there, and it’s dated.

It was an unprofessional tweet in a public forum towards someone whose mental state is a daily battle that is full of both good and bad days. He was going to work as he battled these issues, including an increased travel schedule since NXT went to a weekly format and gets criticized daily from fans and showed up to work and did his job.

Not everyone will love Ranallo’s style of commentary, but he was specifically hired by the company because of who he was what his style was.

I am not going to belabor the point on Corey Graves, I am sure he didn’t envision causing this harm to a co-worker. He has been annihilated online, a lot of which was brought on by himself and there is no need to pile on and attack. It negates the larger issue and that is correcting this situation and understanding the effects this has had on someone. It’s the second time this has happened with Ranallo in WWE and it’s in his court to decide if this work environment is conducive for his health. Since returning in 2017, there have not been any known issues while he has been in NXT where it seems he has a lot of support and has been contacted by numerous people there in support of him.

In closing, I would recommend people watch the documentary for better insight:

Link to the documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VT_5XcJiPo

[Seanny One Ball]

That is a biased and unhelpful article.

Thanks for sharing.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dear Corey Graves,

Your mild, unnamed criticism of a colleague has caused the fake world that governs the real world to lose its shit. We now require you to cease existing.

Signed,

Fags

[Seanny One Ball]

I dare someone to come at me.

I was on prozac before Mauro Ranallo wore glasses motherfucker.

[Sepholio]

It's funny watching all the people sticking up for Mauro simultaneously attacking Graves. The crap Graves is getting hurled at him is leagues beyond ANYTHING Mauro got. It's hilariously hypocritical.

[Sepholio]

It's almost like people are trying to signal something. Like maybe how virtuous they are. I dunno.

I just know that chances are if any of us here called out for weeks at a time because someone made us cry on twitter that we'd be unemployed, homeless and starving.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The problem here is that we are all acknowledging that Mauro is sick. At least for the most part. It’s just this is at least a grey area.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

There are also for sure more people than Mauro in the wrestling industry, ESPECIALLY, that have severe mental health problems. Now you can argue he is giving them a voice or you can say he does them a disservice because they work through the anguish.


It really depends on how much he is suffering. Though his movie makes it pretty clear it’s on another level.

In case y’all can’t tell I am having a hard time deciding where I sit on this issue.

[Sepholio]

I'm not entirely sure he isn't playing it up to some degree for attention. I'm finding it difficult to understand how someone apparently as fragile as him has made it as far as he has into the public spotlight without suffering a total breakdown or derailing his career with the disappearing act. Especially in wrestling. It's very weird how he is managing to build a career with behavior that would destroy most everyone elses.

People send him harsh tweets and yell things at him all the times. Way worse stuff than Graves said. He never loses his shit over that. But Graves says something that was completely harmless (if Mauro didn't go off the deep end no one would have thought twice about what Graves said) and Mauro breaks down. It makes no sense. It's always someone he seems to have some kind of issue with or doesn't like or whatever that he loses his shit over while turning a blind eye to the same and worse from other people.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but this whole thing has never felt right to me, even during the JBL episode and I'll readily admit JBL was a huge POS there. But it just seems like he picks and chooses who to break down over in order to get himself the most sympathy and make people he doesn't like look bad in the process.

[erickman]

yeah I think he does, and he say it is around thanksgiving I can take some time off. if he is put back on air other people are going to use that to get things.

[xrodmuc316]

I still don't see what is bad about what Graves said. I am in the side of Mauro's fans. It's not about what he says, but his passion comes off as genuine.

That said, Graves didn't put down Mauro, Billy him, whatever you want to call it.

He took a veiled passive shot by putting over Nigel and Beth, and then stated their were too many rap references.

Neither time did he come anywhere near crossing a line.

[Triple A]

It's almost like people are trying to signal something. Like maybe how virtuous they are. I dunno.

Or maybe people just genuinely think Graves is a stupid dickhead for publicly attacking a coworker

... who also goes to outpatient therapy for bipolar disorder 5 hours a day and has a well known history of not reacting well to being publicly attacked by coworkers

[Destor]

At what point does Ranallo need to be commited? Seems like the best place for him.

[Triple A]

Also in 2016, he basically quit SmackDown after JBL publicly attacked him on some WWE Network talk show... and it was later revealed that WWE approved the segment and there is speculation that they told JBL to do it

Also there was a lot of stuff about Vince McMahon not liking Mauro at the time and wanting him to be more like Michael Cole

He only came back to NXT because he wouldn't have to directly deal with Vince McMahon (and JBL)... Now with NXT going live and becoming more important, I have a feeling that Vince is "having issues" with Mauro again and trying to get him to be another Michael Cole again maybe...

I bet Mauro has those same fears, that Vince is trying to oust him or "send him a message" again and he's probably like "fuck this..."

[Seanny One Ball]

5 hours a day?!

He definitely shouldn't be working anywhere near a camera.

[Sepholio]

Boy....it's like he has the same fears that anybody on Earth who no shows their job repeatedly has. Boy I bet my boss is gonna be mad, sure hope he doesn't try to punish me for not doing the job he pays me to do.

[Sepholio]

5 hours a day?!

He definitely shouldn't be working anywhere near a camera.

Yeah everything Triple A said makes me doubt Mauro even more. The most fragile guy ever working in the most toxic environment ever, surrounded by people who are out to get him and a boss that doesn't like him? And he keeps coming back? Over and over again? Even though he's supposedly the bestest ever at what he does and is in super high demand everywhere in the world and could have his pick of any commentating job in the business? Just doesn't add up.

[Seanny One Ball]

He probably needs to take a look at Sean Young's career and decide if fame is worth the mental health repercussions.

[erickman]

yeah I agree vince and co are assholes, calling wrestlers indy contracters then forcing them to stay with there company for years, but knew what he was getting into he should have stayed in boxing.

[Evil Vito]

What honestly pisses me off the most is people saying that "It were just some random words, Mauro is overreacting".

Except for people with certain mental illnesses, overreaction is a natural state of the mind that they can't control in any ordinary way. They need therapy, meds, or both to even hope to function normally. That's why they're mental disabilities, and someone like Corey needed to know that his actions could've had this sort of reaction. With bipolar, you can’t control your mood swings. You can hope to see them coming and act in such a way that it creates the least damage for yourself and others, but there can always be triggers to immediately chuck you down that ravine into the valley of suckage.

Mauro already has to dig through enough shitty comments from random keyboard warriors every day, which I can imagine sucks big donkey balls, but then your own coworker jumps in on the train to throw some swipes himself, on an open forum, and well, the bucket runneth over. Doing that to any other coworker is a massively dick move, where in most decent companies you'd get a massive bollocking from HR for creating a hostile work environment. The added stab in the back from a coworker, someone you should be able to trust to treat you decently, that's where the pain comes from.

WWE isn't the kind of company to actually stick up for the right people though, and doing positive things for people with all sorts of disabilities is only an interesting subject when they can get some good PR out of it. Because their actual treatment of their people, whether in ring or backstage is still the same old carny garbage attitude they've always had.

As someone with mental issues myself, I feel so deeply for Mauro, and whilst it's clear he loves the job and most fans love him, I also feel that WWE isn't a healthy environment for him to follow that dream. He’ll always have to deal with petty dickheads like Corey's and JBL's, and nobody deserves that. I doubt WWE will ever wake the fuck up and start changing their toxic mentality to the point where it might be a safe space for anyone to work.

[Evil Vito]

Also, Graves complaining about someone being overbearing on commentary is all types of pot meet kettle. He's by far the most overexposed personality on WWE TV and the quality of his commentary has consistently declined since he joined the main roster.

[Simple Fan]

JBL is a wrestling God.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer Newsletter, many within WWE actually considering Graves to be the real victim or person to rally behind in this whole situation and not Mauro which shows how messed up WWE's work environment actually is.

Graves never took down the tweet. He never commented on anything actually related to Ranallo again, but did blame me for making up a story, which in this case, was a ridiculous deflection. It was noted to me that logic would have had WWE management trying to reel him in after Ranallo left, but in the strange world of WWE, Graves was considered by many the babyface in the situation, and even the victim.

Also Meltzer implied in a recent Observer Radio episode that some in management approved Graves actions and didn't want him to take down his tweets or apology.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean, if Graves was really just trying to stir up shit as a heel, then I kinda get it. But really, he seems like an idiot.

[Sepholio]

You can't even use Mauro's initials now because they are the same letters as the term mental retard and people supposedly used his initials as a slur in the 50's.

GTFOH.

[Seanny One Ball]

Please tell me nobody is actually saying that

[GD]

Lawler called him “M.R.”

[Sepholio]

Please tell me nobody is actually saying that

Lawler was referring to Mauro as M.R. up until a few months or so ago. He was told to stop because that was a slur to mentally retarded people in the 50's and it was bothering Mauro too much.

So yes, you can not use Mauro's initials.

Isn't it funny how everyone that ends up triggering him are other announcers? Like, the only people he has any kind of competition with jobwise? Never seems to be bothered by anyone else. Ever. Weird.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

MR!!!!!

[Seanny One Ball]

Well if he ever gets MRSA how will the doctor tell him?

[Seanny One Ball]

I think this is less a depression or anxiety issue and more of a "this guy is fucking insane" type deal.

I'm flabbergasted that this was known and people still take his side.

What the fuck is happening?!

[Emperor Smeat]

Lawler was referring to Mauro as M.R. up until a few months or so ago. He was told to stop because that was a slur to mentally retarded people in the 50's and it was bothering Mauro too much.

So yes, you can not use Mauro's initials.

Isn't it funny how everyone that ends up triggering him are other announcers? Like, the only people he has any kind of competition with jobwise? Never seems to be bothered by anyone else. Ever. Weird.

Lawler used a similar style insult towards Byron Saxton in the past.

Even as recently as earlier this month, Lawler threw an unprovoked insult at Humberto Carriillo when he called Carrillo a "jumping bean." Carrillo is Mexican.

[Triple A]

I think this is less a depression or anxiety issue and more of a "this guy is fucking insane" type deal.

I'm flabbergasted that this was known and people still take his side.

What the fuck is happening?!

?

He has been doing his job perfectly fine, but has an issue with his boss and coworkers fucking with him... He's not really being that irrational

[Seanny One Ball]

No that level of paranoia is indicative of a brain run wildly out of control.

Nobody should try and placate a mad man over his irrational assumptions.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

No that level of paranoia is indicative of a brain run wildly out of control.

Nobody should try and placate a mad man over his irrational assumptions.

It's not even slightly out of the realm of possibility that they're going after him, internally. I mean, you're aware of who we're dealing with, right?

[Seanny One Ball]

Do they ID him at the door? If they do does he run home crying about Intellectual Disability?

Fuck off.

[Seanny One Ball]

This is absolutely absurd and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Some of you are acting Mauro is such an unstable tinderbox that he can’t function properly, but as far as I know, he’s had two meltdowns for the exact same thing where a coworker was being an unprofessional dickhead and trying to run him down in public. Maybe let’s try not doing that one particular thing and see how it goes from there.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Some of you are acting Mauro is such an unstable tinderbox that he can’t function properly, but as far as I know, he’s had two meltdowns for the exact same thing where a coworker was being an unprofessional dickhead and trying to run him down in public. Maybe let’s try not doing that one particular thing and see how it goes from there.

WWE knows no other way. Bullying culture. It makes it even weirder that they insist on employing the guy if the end-game is always this.

And Seanny, come on man. Do you really think it's beyond the WWE to do this shit? Dawg, you've been listening to Prichard's podcast -- even with Bruce whitewashing everything, Vince still seems like a petty, spiteful psychopath.

[Seanny One Ball]

Do you mean MR McMahon?

[Seanny One Ball]

I can dance all day

[erickman]

yeah wrestling is an asshole bussness always has been maro is not made for it all the podcasts tell you that.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean yeah. But it doesn't make it right. And why do they keep pursuing him as a commentator if he's not fit for the company?

[Seanny One Ball]

He's not fit for any company if he can't handle his own initials.

[Seanny One Ball]

Rename this thread Hamburger Hill please, because it's a fine one to die on.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's not fit for any company if he can't handle his own initials.

I don't think he's fit for the company, but they keep wanting to bring him in. I just don't understand.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's not fit for any company if he can't handle his own initials.

The context of this initial story, which was conveniently left out even though it seems real important, is that Vince and King were calling him M.R. because it stood for mental retardation. It wasn’t some catchy nickname or a tribute to J.R., it was making fun of his initials being the same as mental retardation and him having mental issues. You know, bullying. Like children.

[erickman]

I mean yeah. But it doesn't make it right. And why do they keep pursuing him as a commentator if he's not fit for the company?

yeah I blame vince or trips they should have talked to maro and release him like what they did with eric bischoff.

[Seanny One Ball]

The context of this initial story, which was conveniently left out even though it seems real important, is that Vince and King were calling him M.R. because it stood for mental retardation. It wasn’t some catchy nickname or a tribute to J.R., it was making fun of his initials being the same as mental retardation and him having mental issues. You know, bullying. Like children.


Someone looking to see an insult will find one every time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Someone looking to see an insult will find one every time.

lol oh come on Seanny.

[Seanny One Ball]

What?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean, really.

[Sepholio]

Mauro's paranoia is not indicative of other peoples intent. Just because he perceives everyone is out to get him and that they all mean one thing when they say another does not mean that is what's happening in reality.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Do you really think it's unlikely that Vince and Lawler would do that?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LAWLER: Hey Mauro, your initials are M.R. did you know that?

MAURO: Yes.

LAWLER: Back in the 70s when I was relevant, that stood for mentally retarded. Are you mentally retarded, Mauro?

MAURO: I’ve been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, which causes me to experi-

LAWLER: Great! You’re a retard! I’m gonna call you M.R. from now on! What do you think about that, M.R.? Did you do any crying today, M.R.? Do we need to get you a straight jacket, M.R.?

MAURO: Please don’t call me M.R.

SEANNY: Now see here’s a guy who’s just looking to get offended.

[Sepholio]

LOL you fabricating an entire conversation doesn't prove anything. Are you serious right now? You accused people of leaving out parts of the story earlier, why are you leaving out the reality that when a third party told Lawler what M.R. used to stand for he immediately quit using it...

[Sepholio]

The M.R. thing happened within the first few weeks of Mauro being there too. Before most of them knew how potentially sensitive he could be about things like that. Which is why Lawler quit as soon as he was told the meaning and that it bothered Mauro.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The report I saw said that Vince and Lawler knew exactly what it meant.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

And if Lawler did voluntarily stop saying it out of respect to Mauro, then good! I’d like to see others do the same thing.

[Sepholio]

The only mention of Vince I can find anywhere is from some whacky site I can tell is BS. Says something about how when Lawler and some other people were calling Mauro MR because they didn't think anything was wrong with it, Vince supposedly knew what it meant because he used it as an insult on the playground in elementary school and so he thought it was funny. Like a personal inside joke. Whole article seemed kinda bogus.

[Seanny One Ball]

MR has literally never been common parlance or slang. The words "mental" and "retard" have, but outside of the medical community nobody was using it and especially not as a handy insult, because it isn't handy. It is a clumsy and unwieldy way to say it. No kids have ever run around calling mentally ill people "MR", this is a completely false narrative and the expectation that nobody would look into it is typical of someone fabricating a lie.

[Seanny One Ball]

The report I saw said that Vince and Lawler knew exactly what it meant.

So you're speculating.

[Sepholio]

Yea. My wife knows the term "Mental" as slang for it. And I grew up in the states where we all called people retards when we were little. The only other term I remember hearing when I was younger was spas/spastic/special. Never have I ever heard anyone use M.R. before. Asked my dad yesterday out of curiosity because he grew up in the 50's and he said he had never heard it and they just called them retards or touched.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

We’re all speculating Sean

[Seanny One Ball]

Someone find me a film or show from 1950 onwards where MR is colloquially used by an average person to describe a person with mental illness in a mocking way.

Words like lunatic, spastic, retard, mental, simple, SLOW etc were all preferable at one point and became offensive due to the euphemism treadmill.
MR isn't in that group though. Nobody ever used MR to fuck with somebody.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

MR as in JR.

[Gerard]

Wouldn't surprise me if Vince was doing that, JR was in an interview a while back and he was told Vince used to impersonate him with the Bells Palsy in meetings he wasn't at.

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[Sepholio]

MR as in JR.

Indeed. But screw that. This is WWE. There just HAS to be an evil ulterior motive to it.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh yeah I totally forgot about them doing similar stuff to JR. I am speculating that this company might be a toxic work environment.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Oh yeah I totally forgot about them doing similar stuff to JR. I am speculating that this company might be a toxic work environment.

I mean Jim Ross is a cantankerous fucker and not always an innocent bystander - as which he is often painted. Even still, he was subjected to some cruel, despicable stuff.

[erickman]

remember when they pulled jr's head out of vinces ass in the adatude era. then there is the kiss vinces ass club where jr is a member of

[Sepholio]

Making my point for me. It doesn't matter if WWE and everyone in their employ is completely innocent here. You guys have convicted them based on the past and won't even consider otherwise. They just HAVE to be guilty.

[Sepholio]

Thank God this isn't court and you guys aren't jurors.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean... what are we saying they're guilty of? I'm personally discussing the scenario from as balanced of a perspective as possible. Past behavior doesn't guarantee they acted poorly, but it definitely makes it a probability.

[Destor]

Thank God this isn't court and you guys aren't jurors.
For real.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean... what are we saying they're guilty of? I'm personally discussing the scenario from as balanced of a perspective as possible. Past behavior doesn't guarantee they acted poorly, but it definitely makes it a probability.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Thank God this isn't court and you guys aren't jurors.

You’re right of course, but you know what’s funny about this is if this was a trial for workplace discrimination, WWE could bring up all their past bad behavior to say hey look, we’re not discriminating against Mauro, we treat all our employees like dirt.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I just hope they would bring Eugene in as a character witness.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://i.imgur.com/P1aZPzV.gif

[Destor]

Argument from the middle ground fallacy. The center isnt inherently right

[Destor]

@dale

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm not trying to "be right" nor am I condemning WWE to the bloody bowels of hell. Just using basic logic and common sense. Company and boss with a long history for bullying and being shitty is likelier to be bullying and act shitty. Also, they're not up for trial. We're talking about it on a wrestling forum.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

At the end of the day, y'all are just as happy to say Mauro is being paranoid and deluded, probably because you don't like "weakness."

I'm not even a fan of Mauro's and think he's focused on getting himself over. But he hasn't even made a statement on the matter. Just reacted like someone who's very ill with bipolar disorder. Eh, I've already claimed if he's going to be in the WWE, he needs to find better coping mechanisms. But they're the ones who've hired him twice with full knowledge of his condition, and the stories keep leaking about them apparently hating him at the same time. So I find the whole thing strange.

[Seanny One Ball]

Imagine if Mick Foley went flying off that HIAC every night. He was great at it, the fans loved it but it made his colleagues uncomfortable and was incredibly bad for his health.
Now imagine Mick was given every support and allowance to keep doing it because the fans somehow convinced the world that it was his right to keep doing it when really they are just selfish.

The whole time Mick is calling Vince McMahon a bully because his back hurts and the fans all agree Vince should do more to make the solid concrete floor softer for poor old Mick even though the simplest option is to take him off TV to save him from himself even if it risks pissing off the fans.

[Seanny One Ball]

Vince signs Mick into the hospital as MF one day and Mick loses his shit thinking Vince called him a motherfucker

[Seanny One Ball]

This is quite good fun

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Mental Fuckface

[Seanny One Ball]

Somebody better accuse me of a false equivalency soon or I'm never going to get my kicks outta this

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Who has the energy?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Now that we’re all friends again, I’d like to take a moment to address the most ridiculous part of Corey Graves’ tweet that started all this. There is no one, anywhere, that is clamoring for more Beth Phoenix commentary. Get out of here, Corey.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Even Edge thinks it’s a bit much as is.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Now that we’re all friends again, I’d like to take a moment to address the most ridiculous part of Corey Graves’ tweet that started all this. There is no one, anywhere, that is clamoring for more Beth Phoenix commentary. Get out of here, Corey.

I was thinking this, too.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Now that we’re all friends again, I’d like to take a moment to address the most ridiculous part of Corey Graves’ tweet that started all this. There is no one, anywhere, that is clamoring for more Beth Phoenix commentary. Get out of here, Corey.

Cornette called her pretty good.

[Sepholio]

Mauro: Hey how do you spell comrade?

Me: C O M R...

Mauro: *windows shut down noise*

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh so you can fabricate conversations but I can’t. I see how it is...

[Frank Drebin]

HAPPY 17500TH POST SEPHIROTH!!

[Savio]

Mauro used to work for Emergency Dispatch but quit when people thought he had erectile dysfunction


#LameJoke2019

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

One thing I've noticed is those against Mauro have a personal agenda against WEAK FRAGILE PEOPLE.

I mean, Mauro's certainly high strung and probably a whole LOT to deal with--but he's reached a level in his profession that's impressive for a guy with this kind of condition. Dare I suggest he possesses strength beyond our own comprehension?

Surely he didn't achieve the success he has to this point via always running away from his problems.

Remember, also, this guy isn't a macho fighter type. It's WAY easier to pick on someone when they can't punch you in the fucking head.