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slik
05-11-2020, 05:00 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Raw Women's Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BeckyLynchWWE</a> will make a major announcement TONIGHT on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a>! <a href="https://t.co/RbcL5Xw6Zt">pic.twitter.com/RbcL5Xw6Zt</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1259937377684000768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
05-11-2020, 05:13 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*BREAKING* <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BeckyLynchWWE</a> is pregnant. She’ll announce it on Monday Night Raw tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMan?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheMan</a></p>&mdash; Fight Oracle ™ (@fightoracle) <a href="https://twitter.com/fightoracle/status/1259930866974949376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

GD
05-11-2020, 05:27 PM
Second pregnant superstar in the WWE to hold a championship.

GD
05-11-2020, 05:28 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/1AeP4BuiSr3li1smJF/giphy.gif

Droford
05-11-2020, 05:47 PM
I dont think she's having a baby. If she is its terrible timing with the big acting gig

Evil Vito
05-11-2020, 06:18 PM
Seth’s failure to wrap it up might cost Becky a milestone as she’s like a month and a half away from passing Trish for longest women’s title reign since the 80s.

Black Widow
05-11-2020, 06:19 PM
Who wants to bet if she is pregnant that they have a the baby isn't Seth's storyline when she returns?

slik
05-11-2020, 06:22 PM
Sounds like the Wildcard Era is back too and will be announced tonight

:(:(:(

Evil Vito
05-11-2020, 06:28 PM
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Evil Vito
05-11-2020, 06:30 PM
Sami Zayn likely getting stripped of the IC Title as well since he's likely not going to be back anytime soon. That or another "temporary champion" deal like they're doing with the Cruiserweight title.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 07:01 PM
Sounds like the Wildcard Era is back too and will be announced tonight

:(:(:(

:n:

Only good thing to come from that period was Post Wrestling's reviews of the shows and the gradual toll on their minds trying to make the swaps work each week via WWE Logic since WWE couldn't follow a simple rule.

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 07:59 PM
If that is true, Vince will never trust a woman as a top star again.

teamXtremist
05-11-2020, 08:03 PM
Oooooooh yea

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:06 PM
If that is true, Vince will never trust a woman as a top star again.

He'd probably be more pissed at Rollins for the huge sums of money he just cost the company.

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:07 PM
Auska transformed into Becky

ClockShot
05-11-2020, 08:07 PM
"The Decision Makers"

:lol:

teamXtremist
05-11-2020, 08:08 PM
You got 🤰 pregnant 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

slik
05-11-2020, 08:08 PM
Becky very emotional

Sepholio
05-11-2020, 08:09 PM
ASUKA R CHAMP

ClockShot
05-11-2020, 08:10 PM
SURPRISE!

ClockShot
05-11-2020, 08:10 PM
So weird.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:11 PM
:lol: Asuka

Sepholio
05-11-2020, 08:11 PM
Asuka is the greatest

slik
05-11-2020, 08:11 PM
New Champ Asuka

ClockShot
05-11-2020, 08:13 PM
Vince thinking of that DiTech commercial right now.

"Lost another one to pregnancy."

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 08:13 PM
Asuka getting more of a push now running around as some kind of weird Vince McMahon Japanese stereotype dancing around goofy gimmick lol.

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:14 PM
I dont see why Auska couldn't have done a sneak attack roll up cash in on Becky to win the belt

Evil Vito
05-11-2020, 08:14 PM
Well between pregnancy and maternity leave that’s Becky gone for at least a year. Whether she returns or not probably depends on the state of the world this time next year and if movie offers are still on the table by then.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:14 PM
That whole segment was way more awkward than it should have been for a pregnancy announcement.

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:15 PM
Well between pregnancy and maternity leave that’s Becky gone for at least a year. Whether she returns or not probably depends on the state of the world this time next year and if movie offers are still on the table by then.

roman is basically out for the same reason

ClockShot
05-11-2020, 08:17 PM
They should have just announced Becky was pregnant earlier and made the MITB match straight up for the women's belt.

That segment was nice. Then Asuka opened up the happy meal and found a million dollars inside it instead of a toy and went bonkers.

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:18 PM
now I'm thinking how hilarious it would have been if Corbin pulled down the womens case and became Womens champion

dronepool
05-11-2020, 08:18 PM
I wish Asuka would dance with her ass exposed by me lol

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:18 PM
Reys not dead

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 08:20 PM
Everybody but the Dad showing up to give Becky congrats :rofl:

dronepool
05-11-2020, 08:22 PM
When did Becky get preg? This was so random.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:25 PM
Wonder if WWE is going to fast track a couple of call-ups from NXT to boost RAW's women's division now that they lost a big star for the foreseeable future and give Asuka more quality face stars to work with.

NXT has more than enough quality depth to take a hit on their Women's division.

dronepool
05-11-2020, 08:29 PM
I actually was sorta annoyed by how much they pushed Becky and I prefer Asuka... so good news for everyone except Vince.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:31 PM
Lashley vs. Humberto was pretty meh for a DQ match.

slik
05-11-2020, 08:34 PM
this segment is dumb, re: profits and vikings

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:34 PM
Basketball huh

Droford
05-11-2020, 08:35 PM
AEW is probably relieved Nyla Rose is their Womens champion

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:36 PM
:| Street Profits vs. Viking Raiders in a basketball game.

No wonder the Revival wanted to bolt from WWE as soon as possible.

slik
05-11-2020, 08:36 PM
Viking Raiders don’t know what a basketball is but drive cars

GD
05-11-2020, 08:39 PM
Oh shit! Did I miss a cash in? Oh well.

slik
05-11-2020, 08:41 PM
WWE going to replay that Becky segment 80,000 more times tonight

slik
05-11-2020, 08:41 PM
Oh shit! Did I miss a cash in? Oh well.

No, the MITB match was for the women's title since Becky is preggo and prob never coming back full-time again

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:42 PM
:lol: they kept the gym weights choking spot from the Edge vs Orton match in this video package highlights.

slik
05-11-2020, 08:46 PM
No interest in the rest of RAW now that Bex's big announcement is outta the way

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:46 PM
What was the purpose of having a Last Man Standing match if Orton and Edge are just going to wrestle again and probably as a regular match?

RP
05-11-2020, 08:48 PM
So this is gonna be a Becky heel turn right? She's not really pregnant. I'm not watching, just looking at twitter.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 08:53 PM
So how does making Toazwa a jobber to the stars help NXT and their Interim Cruiser tournament?

If anything it makes everyone in Tozawa's tournament group look even worse by comparison.

Sepholio
05-11-2020, 08:55 PM
What was the purpose of having a Last Man Standing match if Orton and Edge are just going to wrestle again and probably as a regular match?

I feel like they are going to reform rated RKO tbh. They'll suddenly be cool again now that they beat each other to death.

GD
05-11-2020, 08:57 PM
No, the MITB match was for the women's title since Becky is preggo and prob never coming back full-time again

Fair enough. Would dislike it if she competed in her current state. Happy for Asuka. The true MVP of 2020.

Mr. Nerfect
05-11-2020, 08:59 PM
So how does making Toazwa a jobber to the stars help NXT and their Interim Cruiser tournament?

If anything it makes everyone in Tozawa's tournament group look even worse by comparison.

I don't think anyone cares about 205 Live or the Interim Cruiser tournament, to be honest.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:01 PM
A champ vs. champ feud would have been pretty great but WWE's recent booking of Zelina's crew took out all of my interest on wanting to see this feud restart.

GD
05-11-2020, 09:02 PM
I don't think anyone cares about 205 Live or the Interim Cruiser tournament, to be honest.

Speak for yourself, weirdo. People do care about quality in-ring competition.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:03 PM
Is their plan of making Andrade look strong to job him to Drew multiple times?

slik
05-11-2020, 09:04 PM
Zelina yelling "Drew" in a Scottish accent at ringside always cracks me up

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:05 PM
That was a good match. But why though?

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:07 PM
I don't think anyone cares about 205 Live or the Interim Cruiser tournament, to be honest.

205 Live wishes they could have gotten in on the action but NXT has been hogging all the matches that have been among the most entertaining on NXT in recent weeks.

Tozawa's booking is pretty much another instance of WWE's creative being a mess in general.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:09 PM
:| Drew vs. King Corbin next week.

slik
05-11-2020, 09:10 PM
The Wildcard era kicks off, of course, with Baron Corbin

Mr. Nerfect
05-11-2020, 09:10 PM
No major wrestling promotion knows how to handle their guys on their own shows, let alone other shows.

Mr. Nerfect
05-11-2020, 09:11 PM
I don't have a problem with them ending the roster split. It sucks. That being said, if they have Drew just tear through all the heels like that, they're going to have no one left...

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:14 PM
I thought for a second Drew was about to accept a challenge from Jinder Mahal.

Mr. Nerfect
05-11-2020, 09:15 PM
I'm sure that match will happen at some point.

Mr. Nerfect
05-11-2020, 09:15 PM
I just hope it lasts no more than 5 seconds.

Sepholio
05-11-2020, 09:16 PM
Uhg Lana is awful.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:17 PM
No major wrestling promotion knows how to handle their guys on their own shows, let alone other shows.

Outside of TNA/Impact for long stretches of time, nobody else is even close to WWE's level of ineptitude when it comes to handling their own talent.

slik
05-11-2020, 09:18 PM
owenbrown marking out r/n for the IIconics

slik
05-11-2020, 09:23 PM
I remember when owenbrown posted about how he won tickets to WWE LIVE and wore his IIConics shirt and danced in the crowd

Mr. Nerfect
05-11-2020, 09:24 PM
Outside of TNA/Impact for long stretches of time, nobody else is even close to WWE's level of ineptitude when it comes to handling their own talent.

AEW brought in Brodie Lee as the leader of The Dark Order dressed with fake zippers taped to his gear. It's definitely a wash.

rez
05-11-2020, 09:26 PM
so much hotness

slik
05-11-2020, 09:28 PM
I see the IIconics have not improved in the ring while away

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:30 PM
I still dig the IIconics theme.

rez
05-11-2020, 09:30 PM
yeesh. acting like MITB match was live for what reason?

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:31 PM
I got thrown off the roof. It's not a big deal, though.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:32 PM
Women's tag match was decent.

Not sure if the IIconics actually got better during their long break from tv or they only look better because Nikki and Bliss barely have been good in the ring as a team.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:37 PM
That wasn't as bad as I had expected, agreed.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:40 PM
Pretty Ricky. Oh great.

rez
05-11-2020, 09:40 PM
hehehhee

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:41 PM
Remember when Ricochet was wrestling Brock Lesnar a couple months ago?

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:42 PM
I feel like R-Truth's biggest comedic inspiration is Kel Mitchell.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:43 PM
Not sure R-Truth giving his saliva filled fake teeth to the ref counts as following WWE's coronavirus health safety rules.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:43 PM
Lashley and MVP is a good pairing right now.

slik
05-11-2020, 09:44 PM
this show is a mess

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:45 PM
...so AJ isn't done with the Undertaker?

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 09:51 PM
WTF, Shayna Bazler is the greatest! Lol

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:52 PM
Is Shayna wearing make up tonight? Still gross, but looks different.

slik
05-11-2020, 09:52 PM
I had no idea becky was pregnant, shocked they have barely mentioned it

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:52 PM
Fucking love that Shayna promo.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:52 PM
Wonder how much of that promo by Shayna was written by Vince considering some of the digs in it regarding her career and star status.

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 09:54 PM
:| Street Profits vs. Viking Raiders in a basketball game.

No wonder the Revival wanted to bolt from WWE as soon as possible.

Yeah, they are gonna love taking Stunners from Tony Khan and that horrible ref, or getting beat up by a dude with his hands in his pockets when running away from a golf cart. #FTR

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 09:57 PM
Aleister Black is still kinda cool as fuck.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 09:58 PM
WWE wasted a great opportunity to come up with something really cool as a way to bring back Black after last night's roof toss.

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 10:00 PM
WWE wasted a great opportunity to come up with something really cool as a way to bring back Black after last night's roof toss.

Right, they should have built up his return for months then brought him back doing skits where he gets mad at people sneezing like Vince McMahon :roll:

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:01 PM
Rollins theme sounds very familiar to something I've heard before in a game but can't remember at the moment. Like the start of it feels its from one of the Metriod Prime games.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:01 PM
Seth's new theme fits his current character better, I'll say.

Too bad he's too upset to even wet his hair tonight.

slik
05-11-2020, 10:02 PM
seth trying to push his stomach out to look bloated

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:04 PM
Right, they should have built up his return for months then brought him back doing skits where he gets mad at people sneezing like Vince McMahon :roll:

Or just do something like tease an Evil/Demon Black is going to be unleashed soon and his return entrance being something like what Kross did for his debut on NXT minus the signing.

Just because Noid has become annoying with his constant complaints over AEW and all wrestling that he hates doesn't mean you have to follow in his footsteps for his approval.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:05 PM
Maybe Murphy just needs to ring a bell for Seth, like Festus.

slik
05-11-2020, 10:08 PM
seth looks lactose intolerant

Droford
05-11-2020, 10:11 PM
Seth already looks like he's 6 months into fatherhood not sleeping cause he wakes up every 30 minutes for a whining baby

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:12 PM
Wait ... how is that a DQ?

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:12 PM
That was a hasty ass DQ.

rez
05-11-2020, 10:14 PM
Rey having thee worst 24hours.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:14 PM
Whoa

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:14 PM
Eye patch and luchador mask, nice.

slik
05-11-2020, 10:15 PM
Rey recovers from death to lose an eye

just can't catch a break

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:15 PM
Stupid DQ aside, that was kinda entertaining.

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 10:15 PM
Or just do something like tease an Evil/Demon Black is going to be unleashed soon and his return entrance being something like what Kross did for his debut on NXT minus the signing.

Just because Noid has become annoying with his constant complaints over AEW and all wrestling that he hates doesn't mean you have to follow in his footsteps for his approval.

Naw, I'm more own brand of annoying. I in fact like a lot about AEW, but if you want to knock WWE for having a basketball segment, I am happy to point out that every promotion does stupid stuff. Don't imply its only WWE, because clearly it's not.

My being annoying is pointing out hypocrisy. If this was Wednesday and you were saying so and so should leave AEW because it's stupid they have to do dumb being the elite crap, I would say it's no dumber than WWE doing this or that.

My difference is I don't take shots at one while pretending the other walks in water. Never have, never will.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:17 PM
If the idea was to do an injury angle with Rey, they didn't really need to bring him back that quickly considering it's only been a day since his roof fall spot.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:21 PM
If the idea was to do an injury angle with Rey, they didn't really need to bring him back that quickly considering it's only been a day since his roof fall spot.

I think it helps Rollins this way. The roof spot certainly did nothing for Corbin.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:22 PM
And Rollins/Mysterio will be a good match down the road.

Droford
05-11-2020, 10:22 PM
Oh

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:23 PM
When did the Viking Raiders become idiots?

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:27 PM
I think it helps Rollins this way. The roof spot certainly did nothing for Corbin.

Didn't really need to bring him back that quickly though since it made the big roof spot even more meaningless in the end.

Do agree that Rey vs. Rollins should be a very good one when they get around to it.

slik
05-11-2020, 10:27 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/25fF6n0g/Screenshot-2020-05-11-at-9-23-03-PM.png

slik
05-11-2020, 10:29 PM
Is this Nitro in the year 2000

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:30 PM
This is really fucking bad. I feel bad for having my roommate watch this with me right now.

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 10:30 PM
I like that they wore their face paint for the game lol

xrodmuc316
05-11-2020, 10:32 PM
Good lord, nothing ruins something faster than Nattie talking. I hope Shayna murders her.

Droford
05-11-2020, 10:34 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/72ec883b4cdf8d5f2dec2c89a7fc35a4/tenor.gif?itemid=8069933

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:35 PM
I may have done something as dumb as what Ivar did to start that basketball game in gym class one time or so in either middle or high school.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:38 PM
How many hands did this bullshit have to pass through?

Droford
05-11-2020, 10:38 PM
I dont get it

slik
05-11-2020, 10:38 PM
omg stfu about becky already

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 10:43 PM
That match was pretty bad.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:43 PM
Baszler/Natalya had a nice intensity to it. I dug it.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:44 PM
Haha, diff'rent strokes.

slik
05-11-2020, 10:46 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/fRhQwrhs/Screenshot-2020-05-11-at-9-44-20-PM.png

Sting Fan
05-11-2020, 10:50 PM
Naw, I'm more own brand of annoying. I in fact like a lot about AEW, but if you want to knock WWE for having a basketball segment, I am happy to point out that every promotion does stupid stuff. Don't imply its only WWE, because clearly it's not.

My being annoying is pointing out hypocrisy. If this was Wednesday and you were saying so and so should leave AEW because it's stupid they have to do dumb being the elite crap, I would say it's no dumber than WWE doing this or that.

My difference is I don't take shots at one while pretending the other walks in water. Never have, never will.

I agree, sort your shit out Smeat... How dare you discuss how shit the WWE product is in a WWE thread without detailing the Wrestlecrap every other fed is peddling :fu:

Sting Fan
05-11-2020, 10:51 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/fRhQwrhs/Screenshot-2020-05-11-at-9-44-20-PM.png

Corban - "I knew I should have cupped Vinces balls better."

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 10:59 PM
Good Orton promo.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 11:00 PM
This is backwards as fuck, though.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 11:01 PM
What on earth would make Charly say that?

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 11:02 PM
Edge v. Randy Orton in 2020 just may be the greatest wrestling match ever. We all agree, right?

slik
05-11-2020, 11:02 PM
This was not a good ep of RAW imo, this was one of the worst of 2020

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 11:06 PM
Edge & Orton's promo segment was pretty good.

The faces Edge kept making made it look like he either completely forgot what was scripted for the segment after his promo or realized that wasn't a silent fart he just ripped.

This week's RAW was a bit weird. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't that good either and felt more like something thrown together at the last minute instead of the post show for a PPV.

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 11:07 PM
It definitely kept me guessing. I guess...

Droford
05-11-2020, 11:07 PM
What on earth would make Charly say that?

She's secretly Tony Schiavone's daughter

Triple A
05-11-2020, 11:07 PM
What on earth would make Charly say that?

What did she say

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 11:08 PM
She's secretly Tony Schiavone's daughter

I'd love to give her a sidewalk slam *WINK*

Anybody Thrilla
05-11-2020, 11:08 PM
What did she say

Something along the lines that if Edge and Orton does end up happening, it could be the greatest wrestling match...EVER.

slik
05-11-2020, 11:45 PM
It's crazy how many times WWE could turn the ship around but instead rams the iceberg, full speed instead.

I don't blame the writers there, I've chatted with a handful of former writers before and it sounds so frustrating. Just like any show, they plan things for months, create a 'story bible' just like any other tv series and Vince loves this and that and then throws it all out of the window the day something is supposed to start. Vince constantly wants things planned long-term and asks for it and then makes that job impossible to deliver. He creates an uneven show that's all over the place instead.

Emperor Smeat
05-11-2020, 11:56 PM
The thing that surprised me the most when I read up on WWE's Creative process some time ago was that they've been hiring continuity managers for years like every other notable show does.

Nobody lasts long on the job because either WWE just quickly fires them or they flat out quit after quickly dealing with WWE's creative nonsense.

slik
05-12-2020, 12:06 AM
The "Vince gets tired of tag teams" thing is a real thing too. He'll go thru phases where he doesn't understand why anyone isn't pitching tag team stories to him and then a few months later he'll talk about wanting to get away from tag teams as a focus.

It seems like it's impossible to predict what he'll want and focus on that because he's all over the place often. One person I chat with occasionally went from writing on a soap opera to WWE and he said he thought WWE would be a piece of cake after soaps, which have 5 one hour episodes a week and the plots range from murder to mystery to romance....nope, said WWE was the hardest job he's ever had as a writer.

Mr. Nerfect
05-12-2020, 12:20 AM
Or just do something like tease an Evil/Demon Black is going to be unleashed soon and his return entrance being something like what Kross did for his debut on NXT minus the signing.

Just because Noid has become annoying with his constant complaints over AEW and all wrestling that he hates doesn't mean you have to follow in his footsteps for his approval.

xrod was doing it first. And he was totally right. I should have seen it, but my stupid optimism got in the way.

And he's right about hypocrisy. It's amazing how many people actually buy into the online mythology spread by Meltzer. I don't think he's on the take or anything, but his opinions are so skewered at this point. WWE = bad, AEW = good, even if they do the same thing. And just about anything WWE does is somehow centered on crushing AEW. They were both loading up the show and poorly promoting it just to crush those poor independent bastards who are doing amazing business compared to the WWE in their massive landslide.

I get being disenchanted with the WWE. And fans are allowed to be biased. But that's what's fucking annoying. Matt Hardy teleporting is exactly the sort of shit I would get pissed at WWE for.

https://i.postimg.cc/25fF6n0g/Screenshot-2020-05-11-at-9-23-03-PM.png

That looks fucking horrid.

It's crazy how many times WWE could turn the ship around but instead rams the iceberg, full speed instead.

I don't blame the writers there, I've chatted with a handful of former writers before and it sounds so frustrating. Just like any show, they plan things for months, create a 'story bible' just like any other tv series and Vince loves this and that and then throws it all out of the window the day something is supposed to start. Vince constantly wants things planned long-term and asks for it and then makes that job impossible to deliver. He creates an uneven show that's all over the place instead.

Eh, the writers are shitty anyway. And they should know what they are getting into. Chances are the show would suck even if they were given free reign.

Volare
05-12-2020, 02:22 AM
Blonde Peyton Royce...vs Alexa Bliss...well fuck all everything.

Black Widow
05-12-2020, 03:44 AM
This is backwards as fuck, though.
Gotta agree.

XL
05-12-2020, 04:40 AM
“It may just be the greatest wrestling match, ever”.

*Fade to black*

XL
05-12-2020, 04:53 AM
Congrats to Becky (and Seth), that must have been pretty rough on her tbf. She’s at the “peak of her powers”. Asuka as champ, cool. Just left with Otis as a cash in option. Hmmmmmm.

MVP and Lashley connection is fine by me. Looks like they could be building Lashley for a feud with McIntyre imminently. I think that could be a good programme.

Tozawa jobbing on Raw again? I don’t get it, but I better get used to it I suppose.

Drew/Andrade was fine. Guess that was the final chapter in the McIntyre vs Vega book for now. Literally sat at home going “no, no, no” at the realisation that Drew was gonna name Corbin as the challenger from SmackDown. Can we write Corbin off TV? Claymore, pin,
Black comes out, Black Mass, Corbin off TV for 6 months?

The thing with Seth was pretty good. Nice to see a loss have some sort of impact. Or he’s just reacting to the news of becoming a father. Poor Rey. I’d be happy with a Black vs Rollins programme going forward.

Was this a test run for the XBA now that the XFL is done (again)? At least the Raiders managed to turn it around at the end showing the Profits they were just throwing them a bone as they never get a win over them. If they legit ended the segment with Raiders not knowing what basketball was...

Edge vs Orton...in a wrestling match. I hope they market it as “Maybe the greatest wrestling match, ever” going forward.

Fignuts
05-12-2020, 07:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/xYBa4z9.png

Supreme Olajuwon
05-12-2020, 08:25 AM
Fignuts criticizing xrod while failing to acknowledge all the other shitty posters clearly shows Fignut’s hypocrisy and favoritism.

Ol Dirty Dastard
05-12-2020, 08:40 AM
Haha, diff'rent strokes.

Yeah, like how some dumb tasteless morons like 83 weeks.

Evil Vito
05-12-2020, 09:30 AM
Andrade and Charlotte need to get to work on Lynch-Rollins' WrestleMania 60 opponent.

XL
05-12-2020, 09:45 AM
Fignuts criticizing xrod while failing to acknowledge all the other shitty posters clearly shows Fignut’s hypocrisy and favoritism.

Out of interest, who are the AEW fanboys here?

Evil Vito
05-12-2020, 09:52 AM
In terms of days recognized as champion, Becky was only 49 days away from Trish and 103 away from Rockin' Robin for longest non-Moolah women's title reign. That would've put her on pace to pass Robin a few days before SummerSlam which probably would've been the most likely time to do a title switch.

drave
05-12-2020, 11:02 AM
Out of interest, who are the AEW fanboys here?




I enjoy it. Wouldn't say they are innocent of mistakes, but it is more entertaining than anything WWE has done in recent history, IMO

xrodmuc316
05-12-2020, 12:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xYBa4z9.png

It's not every poster, you are right about that, but there is enough posts that needlessly push exactly what Noid said, WWE bad AEW good.

It's the blind devotion, rose tinted glasses, whichever cliche you want to call.

It's praising a 5 foot 8 guy like he is this cutting edge character professional wrestling has never experienced before, when all he is doing is the same gimmick Jericho or Miz has been doing the last 20 and 10 years respectfully, but without their range, although he adds in a few extra swear words.

Is the guy entertaining? Of course! But he isn't doing anything revolutionary.

Supreme Olajuwon
05-12-2020, 01:30 PM
Share some of these posts, please.

Ol Dirty Dastard
05-12-2020, 01:43 PM
Share some of these posts, please.

This

I mostly just see people enjoying AEW because it's a fresh product.

Muc, you're just a fucking contrarian shit stick. Hate shitty posters like you.

xrodmuc316
05-12-2020, 02:13 PM
This

I mostly just see people enjoying AEW because it's a fresh product.

Muc, you're just a fucking contrarian shit stick. Hate shitty posters like you.

Enjoy AEW all you want. There is nothing that says anybody who likes AEW has to be brainwashed loyal. It's cool to like AEW without hating WWE, and vice versa.

Implying the Revival were so smart to leave WWE because of a tag team basketball segment because WWE did it is bullshit. AEW just had a segment where the Inner Circle was making Instagram dancing videos to each other.

How is a clearly comedic segment playing basketball anymore ridiculous?

It's wrestling, it's supposed to be ridiculous! However pretending one is trendsetting entertainment while the other is killing the business bad based on which 3 letters produce the segments is 100% my issue. It's been my issue since a no legged wrestler eliminated Tye Dillinger and "wow this is so great, glad he got to leave WWE where they were holding him back."

Both companies do the same things. Either hate them both, or love them both.

Damian Rey 2.0
05-12-2020, 02:36 PM
Out of interest, who are the AEW fanboys here?

I like AEW but I'm more into their upper mid card/main event scene. The tag division is good sometimes and the women's has potential.

Their under card is meh for me. Like, Orange Cassidy is fine as a comedy spot, but if he's going to presented as a joke he shouldn't be going more than 5 minutes with Pac, who beat Omega and Page and went the distance with Moxley.

Damian Rey 2.0
05-12-2020, 02:37 PM
Btw why are we talking about AEW in a Raw thread. Isn't this want the 100k thread is for?

drave
05-12-2020, 02:46 PM
Btw why are we talking about AEW in a Raw thread. Isn't this want the 100k thread is for?




Telling.

BigCrippyZ
05-12-2020, 03:00 PM
I enjoy AEW. It's certainly not perfect and there are obviously, shows, matches, characters, segments, etc., that are better or worse than others. I'm not going out of my way to point out or be critical of all of AEW's flaws or flops however, because I generally enjoy the show overall and they haven't been around very long and are still building their brand and vision. This not only helps me to brush past the shitty things, but also makes the better things that much more enjoyable.

In comparison, WWE is much more overall an awful product, and has been around forever and has had some good runs historically in terms of quality, but done nothing overall recently remotely good (outside of an occasional good segment or match that then leads to nothing) in 10-15 or more years. Despite many opportunities to change WWE have seemed to ultimately just regress more and more. All that does is make me tune out altogether and then criticize them even more when I do happen to see something really bad.

Anybody Thrilla
05-12-2020, 03:00 PM
Thread separation has always been a problem here. Don't get me started.

xrodmuc316
05-12-2020, 03:17 PM
I enjoy AEW. It's certainly not perfect and there are obviously, shows, matches, characters, segments, etc., that are better or worse than others. I'm not going out of my way to point out or be critical of all of AEW's flaws or flops however, because I generally enjoy the show overall and they haven't been around very long and are still building their brand and vision. This not only helps me to brush past the shitty things, but also makes the better things that much more enjoyable.

In comparison, WWE is much more overall an awful product, and has been around forever and has had some good runs historically in terms of quality, but done nothing overall recently remotely good (outside of an occasional good segment or match that then leads to nothing) in 10-15 or more years. Despite many opportunities to change WWE have seemed to ultimately just regress more and more. All that does is make me tune out altogether and then criticize them even more when I do happen to see something really bad.

You really do have to wonder how many times they could have just went with what was working instead of burying it.

I can think of 3 times they have adjusted in the last 10 years, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan, both of whom the they tried to bury before finally giving in, and Becky who they went with after 3 or so weeks of trying to turn her heel while she just got more and more popular.

How many of the guys did they shut down who really could have become a star? Zack Ryder, Damien Sandow, Rusev, Wade Barrett, Ryback, etc. They were all WAY more over than Vince planned them to be. Instead of giving them a chance, he purposely buried them. It just makes no sense to lose all the potential money they could have made him.

drave
05-12-2020, 03:21 PM
Rusev really should have went over Cena at WM. It was over at that point and that's sad.

Ol Dirty Dastard
05-12-2020, 03:31 PM
Thread separation has always been a problem here. Don't get me started.

"GUYYYYYYYYYYYS"- ABT, when people tell him he's a fuddy duddy

Anybody Thrilla
05-12-2020, 03:38 PM
Did you even watch Raw this week? I haven't seen you post anything about it in this Raw thread. Just talk shit about others.

XL
05-12-2020, 04:02 PM
It's not every poster, you are right about that, but there is enough posts that needlessly push exactly what Noid said, WWE bad AEW good.

It's the blind devotion, rose tinted glasses, whichever cliche you want to call.

It's praising a 5 foot 8 guy like he is this cutting edge character professional wrestling has never experienced before, when all he is doing is the same gimmick Jericho or Miz has been doing the last 20 and 10 years respectfully, but without their range, although he adds in a few extra swear words.

Is the guy entertaining? Of course! But he isn't doing anything revolutionary.

I’m guessing your talking about MJF? The guy that Cornette (and therefore Noid) gushes over?

xrodmuc316
05-12-2020, 04:53 PM
Did you even watch Raw this week? I haven't seen you post anything about it in this Raw thread. Just talk shit about others.

I haven't talked shit about anybody. I don't call anybody names.

And yes, I did post in this thread, but after a while I get annoyed with all the WWE bashing. Especially when every Dynamite thread has the same people gushing over the same things they hated 2 days earlier.

Everything sucks on Mondays, and everything is the best ever Wednesdays.

xrodmuc316
05-12-2020, 04:58 PM
I’m guessing your talking about MJF? The guy that Cornette (and therefore Noid) gushes over?

In that example, yes MJF. I don't care what Cornette says anymore than I care what Meltzer says.

Anybody Thrilla
05-12-2020, 05:51 PM
I haven't talked shit about anybody. I don't call anybody names.

And yes, I did post in this thread, but after a while I get annoyed with all the WWE bashing. Especially when every Dynamite thread has the same people gushing over the same things they hated 2 days earlier.

Everything sucks on Mondays, and everything is the best ever Wednesdays.

I'm sorry, I wasn't talking about you.

Anybody Thrilla
05-12-2020, 05:54 PM
This

I mostly just see people enjoying AEW because it's a fresh product.

Muc, you're just a fucking contrarian shit stick. Hate shitty posters like you.

"GUYYYYYYYYYYYS"- ABT, when people tell him he's a fuddy duddy

Damian Rey 2.0
05-12-2020, 06:25 PM
Rusev really should have went over Cena at WM. It was over at that point and that's sad.

Rusev losing to Cenawas fine. It made sense that Cenahad to step up and be the hero. It was the constant and convincing losses to Cena afterwards that buried Rusev.

Damian Rey 2.0
05-12-2020, 06:28 PM
I like MJF far more than the Miz, who've I found mostly annoying. MJF also seems better in the ring.

Anybody Thrilla
05-12-2020, 06:46 PM
MJF seems like a really good promo every time I've seen him.

Emperor Smeat
05-12-2020, 06:46 PM
According to PWI, Asuka's reactions to winning the title and Becky's pregnancy announcement were actually genuine since she only found out about both when she got to the PC for RAW's tapings last night.

Also gives some idea of how sudden Becky's announcement was to WWE since they originally had different plans for Asuka's MitB case.

We were told that when WWE filmed the Money In The Bank ladder match in Stamford that Asuka was not aware she was winning the RAW Women’s Championship. She was not aware that was happening until yesterday when she got to the taping. So her reaction while she knew what was going to happen in the segment was legitimately shocked and excitement we were told.

Anybody Thrilla
05-12-2020, 06:50 PM
That's awesome. I'm happy to see Asuka seemingly rising back up to prominence. She's been great lately. Always, really. But lately especially. I mean, NXT ESPECIALLY especially...but you get it. Right?

Tom Guycott
05-13-2020, 12:13 AM
Btw why are we talking about AEW in a Raw thread. Isn't this want the 100k thread is for?

Telling.

No worse than talking about shows that used to come on USA after RAW back in the day... in a Smackdown thread.

Tom Guycott
05-13-2020, 12:44 AM
Andrade and Charlotte need to get to work on Lynch-Rollins' WrestleMania 60 opponent.

That would be fun, if not for the reign of terror from HHH's heir. Even now, I'm pretty sure the kids have those little beach shovels...

Mr. Nerfect
05-14-2020, 02:04 AM
There are plenty of AEW fanboys who get upset if you make a criticism about AEW. I've seen them on more exciting wrestling forums. Fucking drones who like anything because it's not WWE.

Also, none of you are willing to criticize AEW enough, because it fucking sucks, and there is plenty of fucking hypocrisy. If WWE did half the shit AEW did, people would be crying foul. Brodie Lee's gimmick is fucking horrible and is in no way, shape or form better than Wyatt Family Luke Harper. His best presentation was in WWE. Jon Moxley's best presentation was Shield Dean Ambrose in WWE. Chris Jericho's best version of himself was 2008 heel Jericho in WWE. Matt Hardy's was Jeff's brother in WWE. And that's fucking sad when you are looking for an alternative to WWE.

People just have their backs up against the wall because they don't want to admit they got excited for nothing. I did it. I got excited when I heard there was a billion-dollar promotion that could entice stars and create a post-Vince world. But then all the stars signed with Vince because they aren't fucking stupid and AEW is PWG with a budget.

If you enjoy it, fine. But don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's bad fucking wrestling.

BigCrippyZ
05-14-2020, 02:56 AM
There are plenty of AEW fanboys who get upset if you make a criticism about AEW. I've seen them on more exciting wrestling forums. Fucking drones who like anything because it's not WWE.

Also, none of you are willing to criticize AEW enough, because it fucking sucks, and there is plenty of fucking hypocrisy. If WWE did half the shit AEW did, people would be crying foul. Brodie Lee's gimmick is fucking horrible and is in no way, shape or form better than Wyatt Family Luke Harper.

Seriously, how do you not get this? It's not fucking rocket science. Are you just a fucking idiot, or (for lack of any other explanation) are you seriously paid to suck some cock or genetalia?

WWE has a "dedicated" or "defined" brand due to its extensive (albeit "inconsistent"/"consistent") history of success/quality that has repeatedly declined/regressed and/or shit the bed for 10+ years or more, despite many opportunities to change or improve.

AEW, is certainly not perfect, not even "great". They are however, trying to build a brand/vision for the long term. Yes, shocker... not everything they do is great, good, or even "okay". Shocker, WWE was in the same situation some 30+ years ago. You know what they aren't though, so arrogant, big, or stupid, to think that they can make "entertaining" programming by scripting, rehearsing, and/or having everyone be, do, (and/or go though) the same (systems). AEW actually (at least contractually is supposed to) lets their talent have some fucking input in their characters, matches, etc.

slik
05-14-2020, 03:04 AM
There are plenty of AEW fanboys who get upset if you make a criticism about AEW. I've seen them on more exciting wrestling forums. Fucking drones who like anything because it's not WWE.


How many forums do you post on about something you don't actually watch?

XL
05-14-2020, 03:27 AM
Also, who are those fanboys *here*?

Mr. Nerfect
05-14-2020, 07:48 AM
How many forums do you post on about something you don't actually watch?

I post in more lively places because this place is fucking dead and I love talking about wrestling.

Seriously, how do you not get this? It's not fucking rocket science. Are you just a fucking idiot, or (for lack of any other explanation) are you seriously paid to suck some cock or genetalia?

WWE has a "dedicated" or "defined" brand due to its extensive (albeit "inconsistent"/"consistent") history of success/quality that has repeatedly declined/regressed and/or shit the bed for 10+ years or more, despite many opportunities to change or improve.

AEW, is certainly not perfect, not even "great". They are however, trying to build a brand/vision for the long term. Yes, shocker... not everything they do is great, good, or even "okay". Shocker, WWE was in the same situation some 30+ years ago. You know what they aren't though, so arrogant, big, or stupid, to think that they can make "entertaining" programming by scripting, rehearsing, and/or having everyone be, do, (and/or go though) the same (systems). AEW actually (at least contractually is supposed to) lets their talent have some fucking input in their characters, matches, etc.

Back to the cocksucking and calling people idiots. Get new moves, dude. Also try and make some actual cohesive points. You're right, not all of what they do is anywhere near good. In fact, most of it isn't. That's exactly my point.

There is no vision, by the way. They don't have a fucking plan and never have. It's evident in how inconsistent their programming is. You're the one who keeps comparing it to the WWE. You're obsessed with it, and it's about the only thing you've got.

I don't need to like WWE to not like AEW. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? But yeah, WWE are way better at what they're doing. Sorry, but they just are. And that's sad, because it shouldn't be that hard to be better than WWE right now, but somehow AEW have turned that into a real challenge.

Your last paragraph doesn't even make sense. Guys in the WWE are still responsible for putting together their matches. Yeah, rehearsed promos suck. That doesn't make AEW good, lol. Jericho, Cody, MJF, Mox and Dustin can talk, but outside of that, everyone is shit there too. And everyone works the same. I don't know why you think it's some sort of revolutionary in-ring style. The best workers in the promotion passed through WWE.

You've brainwashed yourself into thinking that it if it's not WWE, it must be good. That's why you keep coming back to me sucking WWE's dick. I've been hyper-critical of that promotion for a good half-decade. Critical of it for longer. It's been on a decline for about 20 years now. But you can't separate that from AEW completely shitting the bed or pointing out that WWE might actually be doing some things better than AEW. *shudder*

You've got to have it all one way, and if anyone gets in the way of that they're an idiot, a cocksucker or some combination of the two. You're not fierce, Cripz. You're not being logical. You're a dude with 15-year-old boy syndrome getting defensive because someone pointed out the band they like doesn't play very good music. "At least they're not sellouts!" Sure, bud. Sure.

Also, who are those fanboys *here*?

Doesn't matter. Most of you are really sensitive about anyone who has got an opinion that doesn't fit the narrative you want though. A lot of you couldn't take WWE criticism as recently as two years ago, and most of you can't take AEW criticism now but provide a throat clearing announcing you can, then call people names when they do it. But none of that has any bearing on whether or not you encounter it in the wild.

drave
05-14-2020, 07:52 AM
How many forums do you post on about something you don't actually watch?


This is funny :D


There are plenty of AEW fanboys who get upset if you make a criticism about AEW. I've seen them on more exciting wrestling forums. Fucking drones who like anything because it's not WWE.

Also, none of you are willing to criticize AEW enough, because it fucking sucks, and there is plenty of fucking hypocrisy. If WWE did half the shit AEW did, people would be crying foul. Brodie Lee's gimmick is fucking horrible and is in no way, shape or form better than Wyatt Family Luke Harper. His best presentation was in WWE. Jon Moxley's best presentation was Shield Dean Ambrose in WWE. Chris Jericho's best version of himself was 2008 heel Jericho in WWE. Matt Hardy's was Jeff's brother in WWE. And that's fucking sad when you are looking for an alternative to WWE.

People just have their backs up against the wall because they don't want to admit they got excited for nothing. I did it. I got excited when I heard there was a billion-dollar promotion that could entice stars and create a post-Vince world. But then all the stars signed with Vince because they aren't fucking stupid and AEW is PWG with a budget.

If you enjoy it, fine. But don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's bad fucking wrestling.




I've not watched WWE for a very long time. I keep up by reading sometimes.


AEW feels "fresh", and that's probably what it is. They have a ton of work to do, but for me personally, they have been more fun to watch. Everything you highlighted is just your opinion and you seem to get upset that others don't share your view.


I don't think people care as much about Brodie Lee's gimmick so much as they do that he is actively wrestling again. It was a shared sentiment on this board (best board btw, tpww4lyfe) that it was shitty the "E" was just not letting him perform because of the good ole "creative has nothing for ya" schtick.


The whole "Dark OrdeR" thing is cheesy AF, but it is pro-wrestling, so carny shit should be expected.


I enjoy it, and when I don't I change it. I tried to turn to NXT last night and just couldn't care enough :(



Obligatory STOP LIVING IN THE PAST!!! :rant::rant::rant:

Mr. Nerfect
05-14-2020, 07:55 AM
But BigCrippyZ definitely fits the AEW fanboy mould. Anyone who criticizes AEW must be sucking Vince's dick and be an idiot. It can't simply be that they have taste and like wrestling to make sense and not insult your intelligence with bad booking, teleporting, dudes who are parodies of the show they're fucking on and TNA-esque sports entertainment-style gimmicks. Nope -- got to be gay for Vince.

That's about what you get out of AEW fans. They cannot separate someone's dislike of AEW from a projected love of WWE.

Mr. Nerfect
05-14-2020, 07:56 AM
AEW doesn't feel fresh to me at all. If it does to you, that's fine, but when that fresh smell wears off, what is actually *good* about it?

Mr. Nerfect
05-14-2020, 08:03 AM
Also, if I cared about people sharing my opinion, why would I come to a forum of obedient AEW fans and say "AEW is shit?" Whose mind am I going to change? I don't expect that much of this forum, lol. I just say what I think. AEW should be the best thing to happen to wrestling in 20 years, but it's just going to hand more of a monopoly to Vince because it's laughable as content designed to rival them.

XL
05-14-2020, 08:08 AM
Doesn't matter. Most of you are really sensitive about anyone who has got an opinion that doesn't fit the narrative you want though. A lot of you couldn't take WWE criticism as recently as two years ago, and most of you can't take AEW criticism now but provide a throat clearing announcing you can, then call people names when they do it. But none of that has any bearing on whether or not you encounter it in the wild.
It sort of does matter though. You might encounter it “in the wild” on these other forums you frequent but you bring that HUGE chip on your shoulder back here.

“A lot” of us can’t take criticism/call people names? That’s tarring a lot of people with the same brush as far as I can tell.

“Is this thing still going? I guess Pineapple Pete is about the best you can do when all the stars decided to stay in WWE instead of going to the "Ellis Island of Professional Wrestling."

That was your first comment in this week’s AEW thread. It’s hardly constructive. The thing is, you’re right (as far as I can tell) about a lot of what you say when you’re prompted to go into detail, but what you start with is 100% trolling.

It’s a smaller-scale version of someone signing up here back in the day expressly to tell us we were/are all stupid because wrestling isn’t real/is shit. The AEW fanboys wouldn’t be accusing you of “sucking Vince’s dick” or being a WWE apologist if you just left them to enjoy their shit product in peace.

It’s needlessly antagonistic. I think you’re a great poster - or at least you were - I just don’t get why you keep coming back to this “dead” board to spark an argument about something you don’t like. Unless, of course, you’re as bored as I am with this worldwide situation and you’re just picking up arguments to pass the time - in which case, you are a troll.

drave
05-14-2020, 08:11 AM
It was an observation, not a flame. You clearly give your opinion and in the same vein criticize those who do not. "None of you are willing to criticize it ENOUGH" <--- that.


They aren't criticizing it to YOUR level of criticism. Why? Maybe they don't share that sentiment, that's all.


People are allowed to like different things at different levels. Hypocrisy will also happen because no one has a perfect memory about anything and often praise the person (or business) over the action (which has probably already been done X amount of times by OTHER people/entities).


That is what it seems you are mad about more than anything, but whatever. I learned long ago to just stop letting things into my life that don't bring positivity.




Perhaps quoting said fanboys' posts would help your cause that you don't care about. Point it out, discuss it, have an angry wank, whatever.

drave
05-14-2020, 08:13 AM
But BigCrippyZ definitely fits the AEW fanboy mould.




Where does he do this in his posts though? That's the substance that is missing.

XL
05-14-2020, 08:43 AM
But BigCrippyZ definitely fits the AEW fanboy mould. Anyone who criticizes AEW must be sucking Vince's dick and be an idiot. It can't simply be that they have taste and like wrestling to make sense and not insult your intelligence with bad booking, teleporting, dudes who are parodies of the show they're fucking on and TNA-esque sports entertainment-style gimmicks. Nope -- got to be gay for Vince.

That's about what you get out of AEW fans. They cannot separate someone's dislike of AEW from a projected love of WWE.

BCZ is about the only person I would point at and say “yeah, I see your point about the AEW fanboys”, I’m just not sure he’s all that representative of the posters on this board.

Ol Dirty Dastard
05-14-2020, 08:53 AM
lol none of us are willing to criticize AEW to Noid's liking.

XL
05-14-2020, 08:55 AM
Also, if I cared about people sharing my opinion, why would I come to a forum of obedient AEW fans and say "AEW is shit?" Whose mind am I going to change? I don't expect that much of this forum, lol. I just say what I think. AEW should be the best thing to happen to wrestling in 20 years, but it's just going to hand more of a monopoly to Vince because it's laughable as content designed to rival them.

I mean, you probably need to be asking yourself this question.

Mr. Nerfect
05-15-2020, 05:35 AM
It sort of does matter though. You might encounter it “in the wild” on these other forums you frequent but you bring that HUGE chip on your shoulder back here.

“A lot” of us can’t take criticism/call people names? That’s tarring a lot of people with the same brush as far as I can tell.

“Is this thing still going? I guess Pineapple Pete is about the best you can do when all the stars decided to stay in WWE instead of going to the "Ellis Island of Professional Wrestling."

That was your first comment in this week’s AEW thread. It’s hardly constructive. The thing is, you’re right (as far as I can tell) about a lot of what you say when you’re prompted to go into detail, but what you start with is 100% trolling.

It’s a smaller-scale version of someone signing up here back in the day expressly to tell us we were/are all stupid because wrestling isn’t real/is shit. The AEW fanboys wouldn’t be accusing you of “sucking Vince’s dick” or being a WWE apologist if you just left them to enjoy their shit product in peace.

It’s needlessly antagonistic. I think you’re a great poster - or at least you were - I just don’t get why you keep coming back to this “dead” board to spark an argument about something you don’t like. Unless, of course, you’re as bored as I am with this worldwide situation and you’re just picking up arguments to pass the time - in which case, you are a troll.

It really doesn't matter. It's like when people believe stupid myths about wrestling. I don't know why this one popped into my head, but when people think Bret Hart was going to show up with the WCW World Title on Nitro the night after Survivor Series '97. I don't know if anyone here believes it, but if I said "Man, I hate it when you have to explain that to people," it doesn't really matter if people here are saying it or not.

Yeah, it is tarring a lot of you with the same brush. Boo-hoo?

What's wrong with something not being constructive? Why the fuck do I need to treat a multi-million dollar operation with kiddie gloves? If you want to do that, that's on you, but I won't throat clear pleasantries for the sake of it every single time. I purposely go blunt too, because it's entertaining to me. These boards are 80% people giving other people shit. I will give people who like AEW shit, especially if they are going to respond with inane slurs like BCZ and passive aggressiveness like Smeat. They can take it as seriously as they want.

Where does he do this in his posts though? That's the substance that is missing.

I think he accuses me of sucking Vince McMahon's dick about every second post. You can't possibly have missed that -- unless you are blocking out BCZ, which is completely understandable.

BCZ is about the only person I would point at and say “yeah, I see your point about the AEW fanboys”, I’m just not sure he’s all that representative of the posters on this board.

I never said that he was. He is very much representative of a lot of the AEW fanboys you encounter elsewhere though, and it's not only a bad look for themselves, but a bad look for AEW too. Oh well, lol.

I was optimistic at the start, but they burnt that pretty quickly. Now I am apathetic towards their existence. They're not a true alternative, nor they are they going to do anything but strengthen Vince McMahon's stranglehold on wrestling. So enjoy it all you want, but I will accuse you of bad taste and AEW of making wrestling even worse.

XL
05-15-2020, 06:30 AM
I think you’d be better off in the YouTube comments; That’s where you’ll find the actual toxic AEW marks you speak of.

You were the most optimistic person on these boards pre-launch. Maybe that’s why you are so critical now; it‘a shit when you put stock in something that turns out to be shit.

(Also, I meant to ask you; Top 3 Jacob Fatu matches I need to watch?)

Mr. Nerfect
05-15-2020, 06:32 PM
I think you’d be better off in the YouTube comments; That’s where you’ll find the actual toxic AEW marks you speak of.

You were the most optimistic person on these boards pre-launch. Maybe that’s why you are so critical now; it‘a shit when you put stock in something that turns out to be shit.

(Also, I meant to ask you; Top 3 Jacob Fatu matches I need to watch?)

Haha, it's a lot of other places. Not even I would engage with YouTube comments for sadomasochistic fun.

I was one of the more optimistic (maybe most, as you said). I do absolutely feel frustrated by them not living up to what I hoped, but I am honestly more bummed because I think it is actually going to leave things worse. And this is the sort of thing that Bryan Alvarez threatens to block people about. But Vince McMahon has less to fear than ever before, because not only is he far and away the most effective provider of "sports entertainment," but other billionaires are going to see Shad Khan's small returns and think "why bother?" No one is really going to comb through and realize that AEW niches itself by having an underdeveloped person floss and main eventers that teleport.

I'll be honest -- I haven't watched much MLW lately. I feel like I should to shed some light, because I am high on Jacob Fatu. But I've got this thing with products that I could potentially get more hooked on, because I'm worried they'll sour me and I'll have nothing left, haha.

Lately I've been watching some Contra Unit promos though. They're pretty good. Simon Gotch is a good talker, and Jacob Fatu is actually a pretty good promo. I really like the whole vibe he puts out. I was trying to find out how old he was the other day. He's got 6 kids and made his debut in 2012. I can't imagine he's much older than 30, max, but I'm not sure if that information is out there.

screech
05-15-2020, 06:40 PM
Got around to watching this today. I'm glad that Lashley didn't make the Hulu cut. Not a fan at all.

Loved Asuka's reaction, cool to learn it was legit. I'm behind on NXT/205. But I'm guessing Tozawa is not jobbing on there like he is here?

It seems like there's a bit of...friction in Zelina's group. I'm not sure if they're going for a split, but I don't know if that helps any of them right now.

Basketball game was kinda dumb, but it made me laugh.

Rey/Seth should be fun when it happens. Seth's new theme has real Golden Sun vibes. I dig it.

Edge/Orton in an actual match should be good, but it was a really weird segment (though Orton's promo was good).

A messy episode, but the IIconics are back on my screen so that's solid.

Mr. Nerfect
05-16-2020, 02:12 AM
Lashley has a tremendous look, but he’s never put it all together. MVP covers up a lack of personality, but it doesn’t really add charisma or really great ring work.

rez
05-16-2020, 02:14 AM
Lashley has a tremendous look, but he’s never put it all together. MVP covers up a lack of personality, but it doesn’t really add charisma or really great ring work.

Helloooo fan boi

rez
05-16-2020, 02:16 AM
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111205411/4320576-8692991760-39dfc.jpg

XL
05-16-2020, 02:21 AM
rez, what’re you talking about?

rez
05-16-2020, 02:28 AM
rez, what’re you talking about?

https://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/9/98/Make-a-Sock-Puppet-Step-2-Version-8.jpg/550px-nowatermark-Make-a-Sock-Puppet-Step-2-Version-8.jpg.webp

Mr. Nerfect
05-16-2020, 02:45 AM
I think that is about the most we can expect from Guru Dave's conscience.

XL
05-16-2020, 02:49 AM
I can’t see the image.

rez
05-16-2020, 02:50 AM
i'd take him over XL 10/10

Mr. Nerfect
05-16-2020, 02:52 AM
I can’t see the image.

It's a picture of a sock. I imagine rez is trying to imply you are a sock of mine or something? It's hard to know.

XL
05-16-2020, 06:58 AM
Got around to watching this today. I'm glad that Lashley didn't make the Hulu cut. Not a fan at all.

Loved Asuka's reaction, cool to learn it was legit. I'm behind on NXT/205. But I'm guessing Tozawa is not jobbing on there like he is here?

No he is not. He’s 2-0 in the Interim Cruiserweight Championship tournament. Which sort of shits on everybody else in his field.

It seems like there's a bit of...friction in Zelina's group. I'm not sure if they're going for a split, but I don't know if that helps any of them right now.

Rumour is Austin Theory is headed back to NXT as he was only brought up to fill the gap left by Andrade heading into Mania.

Basketball game was kinda dumb, but it made me laugh.

Rey/Seth should be fun when it happens. Seth's new theme has real Golden Sun vibes. I dig it.

Rey might be done. Contract is up this week.

Edge/Orton in an actual match should be good, but it was a really weird segment (though Orton's promo was good).

A messy episode, but the IIconics are back on my screen so that's solid.

Good? It could be the greatest wrestling match. Ever.

screech
05-16-2020, 07:20 AM
EVER

screech
05-16-2020, 07:24 AM
Interesting re: Theory. I guess it'd be "you're not good enough to be here" and Garza will beat him in a Loser Leaves RAW match or something like that.

I don't get why WWE sometimes will treat NXT/205 stuff like it matters, but more often they won't. I get that not everyone watches everything, but wouldn't it help the product overall to have some continuity?

That's a bummer that Rey is possibly done, though not a bad way to write him off I suppose.

DaveWadding
05-18-2020, 03:14 AM
I don't get why WWE sometimes will treat NXT/205 stuff like it matters, but more often they won't. I get that not everyone watches everything, but wouldn't it help the product overall to have some continuity?

They had their first NXT buildup for a match that happened on 205 live in.... Like 3 or 4 months just this week.