AEW Dynamite - June 17, 2020

[Triple A]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you everyone who’s watched <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> in 2020! We have a huge card tonight!<br>- <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> Tag Title:<br>Kenny/Hangman v. <a href="https://twitter.com/dustinrhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dustinrhodes</a> &amp; QT<br>-#1 Contenders Tag Match:<br>Jericho/Sammy v. Best Friends<br>-<a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> defends the TNT Title<br>-Young Bucks v. Sabian/Havoc<br>-MJF v. <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBillyGunn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealBillyGunn</a> <a href="https://t.co/vggBE7GzgT">pic.twitter.com/vggBE7GzgT</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1273297039179251712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

Is this show live

[erickman]

what did they kick allie out allready

[Emperor Smeat]

Is this show live

No, taped last week which is how the spoilers of Cody's opponent tonight got leaked.

[Triple A]

I didn't hear yet, don't tell me!

[rez]

This match needs Jericho on commentary to lay down some Omega pumpkin head disses.

[Evil Vito]

WOOOOOO best wrestling show on TV

[Triple A]

I hope they don't keep having Cody Rhodes wrestling every week... watering him down imo... Should keep his matches "special" like they have been in the past

[rez]

Lol @ Dr. Baker passing Tony notes.

[Emperor Smeat]

I hope they don't keep having Cody Rhodes wrestling every week... watering him down imo... Should keep his matches "special" like they have been in the past

Yeah, especially if his matches keep main eventing shows since that will quickly wear out its welcome.

[slik]

Who does TNT keep bleeping out?

[slik]

I've waited like 15 years to hear JR call someone a JEZEBEL again,

Thank You JR

[Jordan]

I thought that tag title match was pretty "meh".

[slik]

Shouldn't QT Marshall call if the Apple Cutter?

[slik]

Dustin Rhodes is like Rey Mysterio in the sense that both are somehow better than ever when they should each be slower and less agile than ever before.

[Evil Vito]

Dustin still so good

If AEW and NJPW ever come to a working agreement I’d love a Dustin vs Suzuki match

[Emperor Smeat]

AEW tag title match was pretty good overall.

[rez]

da fuq

[Triple A]

Interesting @ Anna Jay being squashed in a match where she was "in action"...

[Jordan]

Wow I'm shocked Abbadon won.

[erickman]

the new rosemary

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at JR's disgust over Abadon.

[Jordan]

OMG what are all of those Dark Order guys going to do with Ana Jay?

[slik]

What on Earth is Abadon

[slik]

Dark Order after pure, innocent Anna Jay

Heinous

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Britt Baker's reaction to Abadon was perfect<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/J6PczHfyvH">pic.twitter.com/J6PczHfyvH</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1273412532397502467?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Iginfest about to mark out

[ClockShot]

Got home. Turned on the TV. Women's match just started. Warmed up dinner. Match was over.

Oh, and yeah. Abadon is creepy.

How y'all doin?

[slik]

So far so good,

what u eating

[ClockShot]

Baked chicken. Delicious.

[ClockShot]

Power of the punch 2.0.

[Emperor Smeat]

Billy vs. MJF was decent to good overall.

[Emperor Smeat]

Whelp there goes Chuckie T's chance to say "shit" this week.

[rez]

Baked chicken. Delicious.

What'd you marinate or season it with?

[Evil Vito]

The Dark Order scouting Anna Jay, a smiley happy cheerleader type, instead of Abadon is great because in but aesthetically it seems weird but in practice it makes perfect sense. One is an impressionable kid just starting her career and the other is straight-up feral and probably wouldn't follow orders.

I think abandoning the random creepers and making every Dark Order follower a known quantity has been one neat side effect of the fixed location.

[ClockShot]

AUSTIN'S THE GOLF CART!

[slik]

Britt has been dentist-napped

[slik]

Hoping Ricky Starks is Cody's opponent

[ClockShot]

What'd you marinate or season it with?

Not sure what Pops did. Usually just a little salt, pepper, touch of garlic powder, a dab of butter.

On the other hand, he might have used some kind of bag and season gig.

[ClockShot]

Cody Cena gotta drop this act pronto.

[Emperor Smeat]

The Dark Order scouting Anna Jay, a smiley happy cheerleader type, instead of Abadon is great because in but aesthetically it seems weird but in practice it makes perfect sense. One is an impressionable kid just starting her career and the other is straight-up feral and probably wouldn't follow orders.

I think abandoning the random creepers and making every Dark Order follower a known quantity has been one neat side effect of the fixed location.

Wouldn't be surprised if the random creepers don't come back when AEW is able to run shows with real crowds again. Dark Order is already big enough to not them anymore as fillers.

[ClockShot]

I don't wanna hear Arn talk.

[Triple A]

Groaning @ Arn Anderson being given the mic... boring to me

[ClockShot]

Is Ricky Starks the best free agent out there?

I thought Rusev is still available.

[erickman]

Hoping Ricky Starks is Cody's opponent

they got a good talker from nwa

[Jordan]

I loved that Starks promo and theme. This could be good.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nice of Starks to already have a number on his jacket. Makes it a lot easier for Dark Order to nab him later and not have to worry about what special number to give him.

[slik]

Great promo from Ricky Starks

[Jordan]

Starks looking great in this bout.

[rez]

Ricky kinda looks like he could be Vin Diesel's younger brother.

[rez]

Not sure what Pops did. Usually just a little salt, pepper, touch of garlic powder, a dab of butter.

On the other hand, he might have used some kind of bag and season gig.

mmm

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at that collision. Not sure that was meant to happen.

[slik]

Top trend on Twitter

https://i.postimg.cc/zf8s76QC/Screenshot-2020-06-17-at-8-00-11-PM.png

[ClockShot]

Nice camera angle.

[slik]

Good match so far

[Emperor Smeat]

Put Starks on the list of people who can do a spear better than Edge.

[Triple A]

Abadon signed by AEW

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the team, ABADON is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> <a href="https://t.co/2wbMf5Vs8v">pic.twitter.com/2wbMf5Vs8v</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1273417196375625728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at Starks neck.

TNT title match was very good overall. Maybe even the best Cody has had since starting this Open Challenge series.

[slik]

Good spear

[ClockShot]

Jesus, Cody.

Watch some Jay White Blade Runner videos on YouTube. You're gonna kill someone.

[ClockShot]

Ah. They dropped the "Death" in Superbad Death Squad.

Smart.

[rez]

Helllloooo, Miss Ford.

[Emperor Smeat]

Butcher with a knitted cap looks hilarious.

[slik]

butcher and blade look like spokespeople for vegan ice cream shop

[slik]

hope starkman jones is ok...

[ClockShot]

butcher and blade look like spokespeople for vegan ice cream shop

I was gonna say part-time painters.

[xrodmuc316]

WOOOOOO best wrestling show on TV

Says 1.3 million less people than watch Raw :rofl:

[Emperor Smeat]

butcher and blade look like spokespeople for vegan ice cream shop

Or backup dancers for a hip hop/pop musician.

[rez]

vegan part-time ice cream painters

[rez]

Says 1.3 million less people than watch Raw :rofl:

:roll:

[slik]

That crazy guy is trying to break into Full Sail again....and he's live on FB (of course)

Not sure why they can't just arrest him

https://www.facebook.com/armando.a.montalvo/videos/3009297732469702/?app=fbl

[ClockShot]

That crazy guy is trying to break into Full Sail again....and he's live on FB (of course)

Not sure why they can't just arrest him

https://www.facebook.com/armando.a.montalvo/videos/3009297732469702/?app=fbl

Triple H should just hear him out.

[ClockShot]

That Wet Floor sign seeing a lot of action.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yikes at Kip's ear.

That's the 2nd week in a row someone got busted open from their ear.

[slik]

not really into this tag match

[Emperor Smeat]

Superbad Squad vs. Young Bucks was pretty good overall. Could have been a lot shorter though.

[ClockShot]

There's the Shatter Machine.

[xrodmuc316]

That crazy guy is trying to break into Full Sail again....and he's live on FB (of course)

Not sure why they can't just arrest him

https://www.facebook.com/armando.a.montalvo/videos/3009297732469702/?app=fbl

I thought they had a restraining order on that guy?

[rez]

Whoa, that tombstone thing was cool

[Emperor Smeat]

That crazy guy is trying to break into Full Sail again....and he's live on FB (of course)

Not sure why they can't just arrest him

https://www.facebook.com/armando.a.montalvo/videos/3009297732469702/?app=fbl

Either Florida has some laxed restraining order laws or WWE keeps refusing to actually press charges against him.

[Triple A]

Taz is great

[slik]

building to ftr vs bucks at ALL OUT

[slik]

Tazz is tired of bull shit

[slik]

'Ultimate Slobberknocking War'

Lots of vintage JR tonight

[Jordan]

Hardy and Guevara next week should be great. Mr. Brodie and Cabana ... interesting.

[slik]

Wardlow

vs

Luchasaurus

Finally, next week!

[Emperor Smeat]

:y: Wardlow vs. Luchasaurus match next week.

Already guaranteed at least 1 massive brawl since its lumberjack style.

[ClockShot]

Britt got trashed.

[slik]

A lumberjack match announced for next week

[Jordan]

Reba is THICK.

[ClockShot]

Schizo Matt Hardy on commentary.

This should be fun.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Rebel and Britt

Britt's been amazing in her heel role.

[slik]

Thank God Britt is safe

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: TNT going all heel on Sammy's musical performance with that quick cut to commercial.

[Jordan]

EMBRACED BY THE DARKNESS I'M LOSING THE LIGHT

[dronepool]

Let Sammy sing!

[ClockShot]

Would someone at the commentary table slap Matt Hardy to change the personality.

[slik]

If Owen Hart was alive I'd like to believe he would be feuding w/ Chris Jericho r/n

[slik]

RIP OWEN

[Jordan]

Not that he's known to mess it up but I really want Jericho to retire the Lionsault for fear of a botch.

[ClockShot]

Ooooooooooooh. Looked like Sammy landed rough on that suplex.

[slik]

Ricky Starks still trending...hope they sign him


https://i.postimg.cc/3RY418jK/Screenshot-2020-06-17-at-8-49-37-PM.png

[slik]

Wish Great Khali would come out r/n and attack Matt Hardy

[slik]

chuck 'dad bod' taylor

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Jericho denying the Best Friends hug moment.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the ref saying "You suck" to Jericho.

[slik]

why is matt so quiet on commentary

[ClockShot]

What the?

Camera man botch?

[ClockShot]

Nevermind.

[Emperor Smeat]

Finish was a bit awkward but Sammy & Jericho vs. Best Friends was very good overall.

[rez]

OC, baby. I was wondering where he was lol

[Jordan]

Little underwhelmed. I think a lot of it is just I really want to see the show with fans but I really just don't know when that will be.

[slik]

No-Covid Cassidy baybay

[Emperor Smeat]

Guess AEW might actually be stretching out Tyson vs. Jericho till All Out if OC vs. Jericho is going to be at Fyter Fest with no hints of Tyson being around.

This week's episode was very enjoyable overall. Probably the best its been in regards to story stuff for the women's division. Also felt the show itself had a better or more entertaining mix of ring action and story stuff than RAW had earlier in the week for comparisons.

[slik]

I assume Tyson cost Jericho the match

I've assumed that was the gameplan from the start

[Triple A]

Ricky Starks also signed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/starkmanjones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@starkmanjones</a> for a great effort tonight. While he didn’t win the open challenge &amp; the TNT Title, he opened a lot of eyes on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a>. Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> &amp; Arn for nominating a great challenger; I was glad to sanction the match. Now: congrats Ricky you earned it <a href="https://t.co/K9dTVRlv1I">pic.twitter.com/K9dTVRlv1I</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1273441172560777217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolute <a href="https://twitter.com/starkmanjones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@starkmanjones</a> has ARRIVED and is ready to take your <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TNTChampion?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TNTChampion</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> to the limit!<br><br>Watch <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> NOW on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TNTDrama</a> or <a href="https://t.co/GdI7QAsxEP">https://t.co/GdI7QAsxEP</a> for our International fans. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWonTNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://t.co/yQ8i9Pz04q">pic.twitter.com/yQ8i9Pz04q</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1273418465471234048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Ricky Starks also signed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/starkmanjones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@starkmanjones</a> for a great effort tonight. While he didn’t win the open challenge &amp; the TNT Title, he opened a lot of eyes on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a>. Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> &amp; Arn for nominating a great challenger; I was glad to sanction the match. Now: congrats Ricky you earned it <a href="https://t.co/K9dTVRlv1I">pic.twitter.com/K9dTVRlv1I</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1273441172560777217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yessssssss

[Triple A]

Who are your top 3 hottest guys in AEW?

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AWESOME match between <a href="https://twitter.com/starkmanjones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@starkmanjones</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> !!! �������������������������������������� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/aew?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#aew</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWonTNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImWithAEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ImWithAEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/aWKmF7NYhh">pic.twitter.com/aWKmF7NYhh</a></p>&mdash; Justin Speece (@justinmspeece) <a href="https://twitter.com/justinmspeece/status/1273422174502739974?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Who are your top 3 hottest guys in AEW?


Hmmmm this new signee complicates things


Darby
Kip
Ricky Starks

[Triple A]

Sammy Guevara
Darby Allin
Trent maybe imo...

[slik]

Sammy G definitely in my top choices

[Evil Vito]

Fired up Orange Cassidy was a great way to close it out :cool:

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damn. Kid cuts a hell of a promo!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/edywrdHHqH">https://t.co/edywrdHHqH</a></p>&mdash; Shawn Steinberg (@LongShawnSilver) <a href="https://twitter.com/LongShawnSilver/status/1273446627265691649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Ricky Starks also signed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/starkmanjones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@starkmanjones</a> for a great effort tonight. While he didn’t win the open challenge &amp; the TNT Title, he opened a lot of eyes on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a>. Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> &amp; Arn for nominating a great challenger; I was glad to sanction the match. Now: congrats Ricky you earned it <a href="https://t.co/K9dTVRlv1I">pic.twitter.com/K9dTVRlv1I</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1273441172560777217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I totally need to manage him!!!! The 21 OG managing the new young buck 21</p>&mdash; Dominique Wilkins 🏀 (@DWilkins21) <a href="https://twitter.com/DWilkins21/status/1273441869922476032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’ve tried to set a standard by frequently opening with great matches we believe can stand up beside whatever you watched prior, like Kenny v. Pac, Nick v. Fenix, &amp; many others. I enjoyed the opening tag tonight too. Watch whatever you want before Dynamite, I’ll take my chances</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1273461552688115713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also I wasn’t trying to dunk on or disrespect Dave (I respect him a lot) or minimize his opinions (which I often agree with). He’s entitled to watch any show he wants in any order. I was just surprised that’s his rule, and surprised he’d imply everyone should watch in that order.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1273468233622962177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Seems like such an odd thing for Tony to go on the defensive about, especially since Meltzer generally has glowing things to say about AEW.

[Evil Vito]

Ricky Starks and Abadon are really good get for AEW.

The latter intrigues me even more because the women's division really needs the boost after losing Kris Stat.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Billy Gunn was screwed.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Brodie Lee getting some sort of “queen” I guess for his cult seems like a good idea. Was thinking they needed a female in the group last week. And good that someone else will seemingly just join rather than tease for weeks.

Im guessing next week Colt will turn down the offer then we’ll get Colt v Brodie at fyter fest

[XL]

I don’t like that Matt Hardy is aware of his multiple personalities.

[Triple A]

I don’t like that Matt Hardy is aware of his multiple personalities.

Yeah seems dumb...

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Hardy’s been mostly a flop for me in AEW. Not even sure what his current path is. Is he the multiple personality? Is he a mentor to Private Party? Is he trying to help Sammy G see the light and break away from Jericho? A bit messy. I guess it could be all of the above and ends with a Hardy and Private Party vs Sammy and P&P match. While he changes gimmick mid match I guess.

That being said, he was great in the stadium match

[Emperor Smeat]

I don’t like that Matt Hardy is aware of his multiple personalities.

Think Hardy mentioned before in an interview this stuff with the multiple personalities is supposed to be the next arch of his Broken/Woken gimmick that would have happened earlier in WWE had they not lost all interest in the general storyline.

[XL]

The multiple personalities gimmick isn’t so much the issue. It’s that he’s aware of them. Like if you weren’t sure which one you were going to get in a match (and it actually mattered) that’d be one thing. This week the lower 3rd had him as “Broken” Matt Hardy then he said he was “Unkillable” Matt Hardy on commentary. I’m not even sure what that last gimmick is.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The one issue is Matt Hardy was never a marquee talent. He's had good spurts throughout his career where he did quality work (Mattitude stuff was fun), but the standout "it factor" guy has always been Jeff. You could bring him in, everything he does could land/be awesome and, still, nobody would give a fuck. MAYBE if he resembled anything close to his younger self, you could get some lapsed Attitude era fans, but he just seems like some weird old guy now. Beyond that, he's niche as fuck.

[drave]

The only time he seemed "good" was when he and Edge had the worked shoot angle over the Lita affair thing. That was the only time he actually seemed fired up and did some good shit.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's a solid midcard hand. I mean, you can use him better than the WWE did in this last run, but I wouldn't give him nearly the elevation he's received in AEW.

[Evil Vito]

The one issue is Matt Hardy was never a marquee talent. He's had good spurts throughout his career where he did quality work (Mattitude stuff was fun), but the standout "it factor" guy has always been Jeff. You could bring him in, everything he does could land/be awesome and, still, nobody would give a fuck. MAYBE if he resembled anything close to his younger self, you could get some lapsed Attitude era fans, but he just seems like some weird old guy now. Beyond that, he's niche as fuck.

Yeah that’s basically always been the thing with the Hardys. Matt is a solid hand but needs to get by on character work if he’s going to do anything of prominence, while Jeff doesn’t need character work and Jeff Hardy is a gimmick unto itself. Jeff is basically the “Unique” gimmick in EWR.