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Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 07:09 PM
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Chris Jericho vs. Orange Cassidy

AEW World Tag Team Championship
Kenny Omega and Adam Page © vs. Private Party

FTR and The Young Bucks vs. The Butcher and The Blade and Lucha Brothers
Colt Cabana and The Dark Order (Brodie Lee and Stu Grayson) vs. SoCal Uncensored

Lance Archer vs. Joey Janela

Nyla Rose vs. TBA

slik
07-08-2020, 07:33 PM
I can't wait for Jericho vs OC!

Jordan
07-08-2020, 07:35 PM
I am ready, feeling good. Not too stoned or tired this week so hopefully I stay awake the whole show! No, I'm not in the UK. I just get really stoned when I'm watching wrestling.

I did go a buy a Starbucks coffee in a glass bottle deal to help me get a kick when I need it.

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2020, 07:37 PM
I fuck with this card way more than last weeks. And last week’s was pretty good.

Hoping for a real good cringe spot in Archer/Janela match.

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2020, 07:37 PM
Last Fyter Fest Janela got thumb tacks in his feet. They gotta one up that tonight.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 07:47 PM
Janela def getting ragdolled by Archer

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 07:49 PM
Interested in Nyla’s opponent. Hope it’s a nice surprise but we’ll see

Jordan
07-08-2020, 07:53 PM
I fuck with this card way more than last weeks. And last week’s was pretty good.

Hoping for a real good cringe spot in Archer/Janela match.

I am not above stating that I as well really want to see something cringey in that match.

I am most excited to see Jericho/OC, the 8-Man Tag and Brodie & Colt.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 07:55 PM
Seems that the fans want a Horsmen stable in AEW and that it could happen with Spears, Cody and FTR. I dunno how I feel about this potential idea. Mostly because Spears lacks main event credibility which is not an issue with any of the original or great Horsemen of the past.

rez
07-08-2020, 07:56 PM
WHOOOOO LET'S GET IT ON

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 07:57 PM
Besides the card looking more interesting on paper than last week's show, it also has some quality post-show action afterwards.

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Was hoping at first this would have been a special on TNT just to see how it would have fared against wrestling. Back in the day not even WWF during its peak in the Attitude Era was a match for USA Network's annual dog show.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 07:59 PM
Prediction. I think Taz and Cage are going to debut the FTW Title for Cage tonight. Just my hunch based off Taz's latest Tweet.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welp, <a href="https://twitter.com/MrGMSI_BCage?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MrGMSI_BCage</a> &amp; I gonna make a little bit of HISTORY tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> 8p ET <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> <a href="https://t.co/NRPvFtroJH">pic.twitter.com/NRPvFtroJH</a></p>&mdash; TAZ (@OfficialTAZ) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialTAZ/status/1281012105836138496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0
07-08-2020, 08:00 PM
Seems that the fans want a Horsmen stable in AEW and that it could happen with Spears, Cody and FTR. I dunno how I feel about this potential idea. Mostly because Spears lacks main event credibility which is not an issue with any of the original or great Horsemen of the past.

Sign Rusev or push a younger guy who hasn't been sullied, like Absolute Ricky Starks. Or if they sign Rusev.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:04 PM
Sign Rusev or push a younger guy who hasn't been sullied, like Absolute Ricky Starks. Or if they sign Rusev.

He's somebody they should sign for sure but as a Horsemen? The pinache of Blanchard and Flair is what sticks out to me, the gnarl but the acumen of an Ole or Arn... He could play a role like The Enforcer for sure but it would be a totally different character than Rusev.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 08:04 PM
Always pop for “24 ounces of vodka cranberry”

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:04 PM
Goddamn why does Kenny keep wearing those tights, WHY?

slik
07-08-2020, 08:05 PM
This should be a good match!

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:08 PM
Crowd noise sounds louder tonight...

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:09 PM
Wow that middle rope springboard cannonball from Cassidy was great.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:10 PM
Crowd noise sounds louder tonight...

Seems "too loud"... sounds like a loop of like 10 ppl yelling... giving me a headache tbh... Like 3 women endlessly going "woooooooooooooo"

slik
07-08-2020, 08:12 PM
crowd louder tonight

slik
07-08-2020, 08:12 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FyterFest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FyterFest</a> make Wednesdays feel like the weekend</p>&mdash; Devine Bless (@RealmSense) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealmSense/status/1281017537543704576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0
07-08-2020, 08:14 PM
He's somebody they should sign for sure but as a Horsemen? The pinache of Blanchard and Flair is what sticks out to me, the gnarl but the acumen of an Ole or Arn... He could play a role like The Enforcer for sure but it would be a totally different character than Rusev.

I think being the enforcer of the group could work really well. He's already built like a bruiser.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:15 PM
Seems "too loud"... sounds like a loop of like 10 ppl yelling... giving me a headache tbh... Like 3 women endlessly going "woooooooooooooo"

doing me head in........... woman going "woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" literally nonstop... fucked... stressing me out

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 08:16 PM
Tag title match was very good.

Best tag match Private Party has had since the one against the Young Bucks in the tag tournament.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:16 PM
Wow really good opening tag. Everyone did very well.

slik
07-08-2020, 08:16 PM
Good opener

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:16 PM
Crowd noise is def fake... sounds like absolute shit... horrible loop

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 08:17 PM
Love both of these teams. Good match.

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2020, 08:18 PM
Marq Quen such a beautiful shooting star press

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 08:21 PM
Crowd noise sounds louder tonight...

Wonder if they messed around with the mics for night two's taping like they used to do during the early months of Dynamite.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:23 PM
This match should be cool...

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 08:27 PM
Ouch at the welts on Janela's back.

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:28 PM
Just got home and it sounds like I missed a killer tag match.

Figures.

slik
07-08-2020, 08:29 PM
where my picture in picture at

slik
07-08-2020, 08:29 PM
Archer definitely one of my favorites in all of AEW

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 08:30 PM
I've got the day off today, so I'm watching this car wreck LIVE, baby!

Awful opening tag. If it were graded as synchronized swimming or a gymnastics display, it would lose points for the timing of things. White noise, no substance.

Janela looks like total shit. And they're having him go two segments with Archer. Fucking hell.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 08:31 PM
Marq Quen has a pretty shooting star, I'll give him that. I'll try and say something nice about each match. Lance Archer looks the business.

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:33 PM
WHAT'S IN THE BAG, JAKE?!

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:34 PM
EV-REE-BAA-DEE DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIES!

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 08:34 PM
Janela vs. Archer was pretty good.

slik
07-08-2020, 08:35 PM
Fun match

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 08:35 PM
Joey got fucked up good and proper in that one

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:35 PM
I really appreciate the end of the match. It's simple but nobody ever hits a bump out of the ring and then just rolls the guy in for the pin. They always do another move like their finisher or whatever when they get the guy in. Match was pretty forgettable.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:37 PM
FTW title?

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 08:38 PM
LOL, Impact 2.0

EC DUB EC DUB REUNION!

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:38 PM
I didn't know Taz had a side business as a belt maker.

rez
07-08-2020, 08:39 PM
2 shits!

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 08:39 PM
RENEGADE SHIT VS COWBOY SHIT CONFIRMED!

erickman
07-08-2020, 08:39 PM
how does wwe not have the copywrite on the ftw belt

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:39 PM
Brian Cage seems too low energy... Like always half-heartedly doing his "throat cutting" gesture

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:40 PM
Can someone please point how how I predicted this would happen before the show started.

slik
07-08-2020, 08:40 PM
What is FTW?

erickman
07-08-2020, 08:41 PM
Prediction. I think Taz and Cage are going to debut the FTW Title for Cage tonight. Just my hunch based off Taz's latest Tweet.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welp, <a href="https://twitter.com/MrGMSI_BCage?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MrGMSI_BCage</a> &amp; I gonna make a little bit of HISTORY tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> 8p ET <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> <a href="https://t.co/NRPvFtroJH">pic.twitter.com/NRPvFtroJH</a></p>&mdash; TAZ (@OfficialTAZ) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialTAZ/status/1281012105836138496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

got that one

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 08:41 PM
That was the best thing on the show so far. Brian Cage is the FTW Champion and is going to lose in one week to Mox, haha.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 08:41 PM
Hope Mox vs Cage is the good brawl I think it can be

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:41 PM
Brian Cage seems too low energy... Like always half-heartedly doing his "throat cutting" gesture

Yeah I agree. They haven't really figured out how to highlight both Cage and Taz at the same time.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 08:41 PM
:y: Return of the FTW title.

The story of Sabu's reaction when he won the FTW belt in ECW back in the day is a bit hilarious since ECW never had any real plans for the belt besides it being a visual prop for Taz's catchphrase. Didn't even have a nameplate so Sabu stuck some white tape on it with his name written to show he was the champ.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:41 PM
What is FTW?

Fuck the World

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:42 PM
What is FTW?

Fuck The World.

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:42 PM
What is FTW?

I think in Taz' sense, it's "Fuck The World".

I could be wrong.

slik
07-08-2020, 08:42 PM
did he have it in ECW or something

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:42 PM
CALL THE COPS! THE CAR THIEVES ARE BACK!

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:43 PM
:y: Return of the FTW title.

The story of Sabu's reaction when he won the FTW belt in ECW back in the day is a bit hilarious since ECW never had any real plans for the belt besides it being a visual prop for Taz's catchphrase. Didn't even have a nameplate so Sabu stuck some white tape on it with his name written to show he was the champ.

Man that Taz/Sabu story was gold. I believed those two hated each other and that they were shooting in their matches. I was sold on that.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 08:44 PM
did he have it in ECW or something

Yeah its from his days in ECW.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 08:44 PM
What is FTW?

Fuck The World, a really edgy thing to say... in 1998.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 08:44 PM
CERO MIEDO

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 08:45 PM
And we transition from FTW to FTR.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:45 PM
Slik you got some ECW watchin' to do! Though it's hard with the music changed to lame shit on the WWE Network.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:46 PM
Goddamn The Bucks look like studds. Nick looks like his hairline is back too!

slik
07-08-2020, 08:46 PM
Number 1!

https://i.postimg.cc/02RCkjHy/number1.png

slik
07-08-2020, 08:47 PM
I watched some EC Dub ppvs back in the day but was more of a regular WWE/WCW guy

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:47 PM
MELLO YELLOW

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:47 PM
did he have it in ECW or something

Yeah the real ECW World Champ (Shane Douglas) was injured so Taz created his own title (the FTW title) and declared it the real ECW Championship, and defended it and stuff

slik
07-08-2020, 08:49 PM
This 8-Man tag should be fire

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:49 PM
FTR is GREAT

erickman
07-08-2020, 08:50 PM
Yeah the real ECW World Champ (Shane Douglas) was injured so Taz created his own title (the FTW title) and declared it the real ECW Championship, and defended it and stuff

yeah kind of like moose now

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:50 PM
OMG FTR and Lucha Bro's may end up being the best match ever.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 08:50 PM
Fuck, the 3 women loudly going "WOOOOOOOOOOO" is back..................... ruining this 4 me

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:53 PM
LOL Did JR just call Pentagon THE GIMP LOL

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:53 PM
Fuck, the 3 women loudly going "WOOOOOOOOOOO" is back..................... ruining this 4 me

I hear it now. Thanks.

slik
07-08-2020, 08:53 PM
Good Ol JR stanning Pulp Fiction as he should

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:54 PM
My god I fucking loved that spot that Nick and Rey just did. That hop up to the top hurricanrana... wow.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 08:56 PM
This match is the tits

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 08:56 PM
Nice things about this match: FTR are fucking glorious. I liked the "heels" coming out together.

Bad things: It's a fucking sloppy mess and there is a heel team with a babyface team and a babyface team with a heel team.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 08:57 PM
This match is the tits

I am sucking the tit of this match for life milk.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 08:58 PM
I gotta step out, AEW is really annoying me tonight. "Nick Jackson is the best pure athlete in AEW", really JR? Fake crowd noise, ECW callbacks, and announcers overhyping that much? Too much

slik
07-08-2020, 08:59 PM
How ridiculously good is Rey Fenix?!

slik
07-08-2020, 09:00 PM
JR on his game tonight

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:01 PM
FTR's input in this match is obvious and greatly appreciated.

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
That could have been bad.

That goodness for bodies.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
Wtf was that between Matt Jackson and Pentagon? Hahaha.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
That match was tighter than a nun’s cunt.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
Whoa @ destroyer spot to the outside

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
Holy shit, that Canadian Destroyer looked like it was going to end badly for Nick Jackson's neck.

Also very surprised the Bucks and FTR lost. Tag match was amazing.

slik
07-08-2020, 09:02 PM
This match is insane!

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 09:04 PM
Fun match.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:04 PM
Relieved by commercials........... horrible fake crowd noise finally stops... Sounds like if some1 was playing Scott Steiner's siren theme in the background on loop nonstop

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:05 PM
I gotta step out, AEW is really annoying me tonight. "Nick Jackson is the best pure athlete in AEW", really JR? Fake crowd noise, ECW callbacks, and announcers overhyping that much? Too much

Thought you were watching NXT since you made the thread about tonight's show and had proclaimed it to be better than AEW's show tonight.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:06 PM
Great match and a really good finish to set up Bucks and FTR. Everyone in this match earned some good money. Great performances all around. I am critical of AEW's flip floppy leg slappin style but still I fucking LOVE The Young Bucks. And they are the kings of that style sure but they do it better than anyone. What a great match. FTR is good for AEW and wrestling in general. Butcher and Blade are truly becoming a part of the roster they were great hires, totally unknown to me. They would also be great in NJPW at some point in their career. Lucha Bro's, fucking insane. OH how they have been missed!

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:07 PM
The action picked up in that tag match, because FTR know what the fuck they're doing. Holy shit at the fucking stupid booking though. Yeah, let's have the star teams we're building a "dream match" between lose. Fucking hell.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:08 PM
Big Swole not a good actor...

slik
07-08-2020, 09:08 PM
that damn jezebel Brittany Baker

slik
07-08-2020, 09:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That 8-man Tag was just absolutely insane man. Thank you AEW for caring about your Tag division and giving us matches like this.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FyterFest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FyterFest</a> <a href="https://t.co/tzjRK5dM4A">pic.twitter.com/tzjRK5dM4A</a></p>&mdash; EliteAEW®️ (@EIiteAEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/EIiteAEW/status/1281031490617384962?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 09:08 PM
Poor jobber tag team.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:09 PM
That segment with Big Swole was fucking awful. More WCW shit.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:09 PM
LOL @ Big Swole, seriously, send an email at least haha!

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 09:13 PM
Ooooh. Nyla got a manager.

But, won't say.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 09:14 PM
I love AEW’s focus on managers.

ClockShot
07-08-2020, 09:14 PM
Well, Lance was on his way with Jake.

Not even going to mention Shawn Spears & Tully.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:15 PM
Thought you were watching NXT since you made the thread about tonight's show and had proclaimed it to be better than AEW's show tonight.

Like always, I am watching both. Unlike most weeks, AEW did too many things I disliked in a row, so I'm gonna skip a few segments.

And yes, I believe NXT will be better tonght.

slik
07-08-2020, 09:15 PM
I wonder if Vickie Guerrero will be Nyla Rose's manager

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:16 PM
These backstage talking segments are shit.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:16 PM
JR on his game tonight
Yes he is. Good to see too.

FTR's input in this match is obvious and greatly appreciated.

Totally obvious and I really hope they have an affect on the whole company.

How ridiculously good is Rey Fenix?!

He really needs to be in NJPW at some point not too far away.

I gotta step out, AEW is really annoying me tonight. "Nick Jackson is the best pure athlete in AEW", really JR? Fake crowd noise, ECW callbacks, and announcers overhyping that much? Too much

I can't say I don't empathize with the sentiment but I disagree. The ECW reference is welcome, doesn't hurt, they are trying to make that character work with Cage, it's not a home run yet but it isn't a bust either. Nick Jackson is fucking insanely gifted, as a pro wrestling athlete it's not easy to find another who can work and think like he can.

AEW announcing is pretty much the best announcing in like 20 years, if they don't hit it out of the part 100% of the time I think you can cut them some slack. It's JR and Tony for crying out loud!

The action picked up in that tag match, because FTR know what the fuck they're doing. Holy shit at the fucking stupid booking though. Yeah, let's have the star teams we're building a "dream match" between lose. Fucking hell.

Nah it's totally fine that the babyfaces lost. AEW want's to give credibility to the Lucha Bro's and B&B as well. The FTR/Bucks feud doesn't get hotter if the good guys win. The super kick that was a miscue was a great way to open up this feud. This was a showcase match you know? It put everyone over.

slik
07-08-2020, 09:16 PM
Or Madusa

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:17 PM
Like always, I am watching both. Unlike most weeks, AEW did too many things I disliked in a row, so I'm gonna skip a few segments.

And yes, I believe NXT will be better tonght.

I know you doing your thang but I can't see how you can enjoy two TV shows at the same time. When I am not tuned into anything fully then I can't say I am enjoying it. But you do you, just had to say it!

slik
07-08-2020, 09:18 PM
Or Victoria

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:19 PM
I wonder if Vickie Guerrero will be Nyla Rose's manager

That would make sense "I guess" and a lot more than Madusa who can't cut a promo out of a paper bag, but it would be more interesting if it was an accomplished wrestler.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:19 PM
Wonder who could be Nyla's manager.

Like if they go with someone who is notable and managed a woman's star in the past, that pool is pretty tiny. Only one to come to mind is Harvey Wippleman but he's in WWE.

Guess they could pluck another former 4 Horseman guy and have J.J. Dillon be her manager.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:20 PM
ODB just got a new trailer I saw so maybe she got a contract?

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:20 PM
Nah it's totally fine that the babyfaces lost. AEW want's to give credibility to the Lucha Bro's and B&B as well. The FTR/Bucks feud doesn't get hotter if the good guys win. The super kick that was a miscue was a great way to open up this feud. This was a showcase match you know? It put everyone over.

Totally disagree. If you wanted to do tag team miscommunication, have Lucha Bros and Bed, Breakfast & Beyond do it, have FTR score the win and then have them beat the piss out of The Bucks to set up that match. Lucha Bros should be faces anyway.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:21 PM
Like always, I am watching both. Unlike most weeks, AEW did too many things I disliked in a row, so I'm gonna skip a few segments.

And yes, I believe NXT will be better tonght.

Then why are you not posting in the NXT thread as well?

slik
07-08-2020, 09:21 PM
Wish Great Khali would come out r/n and zombie chop Colt Cabana

slik
07-08-2020, 09:23 PM
Still not a fan of Dark Order...but I have a soft spot for Evil Uno

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:24 PM
ODB just got a new trailer I saw so maybe she got a contract?

Think that was entirely funded from a fundraiser she had some time ago. Her being Nyla's manager would be an very interesting choice and something unpredictable as well.

slik
07-08-2020, 09:24 PM
Wish Scorpio Sky would put Brodie Lee thru a table right now

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:26 PM
Totally disagree. If you wanted to do tag team miscommunication, have Lucha Bros and Bed, Breakfast & Beyond do it, have FTR score the win and then have them beat the piss out of The Bucks to set up that match. Lucha Bros should be faces anyway.

Lucha Bro's go both ways as far as heel/face. But they tend to be dirty. I think that's fine because they are obviously very marketable and easy to cheer for but, when they play the role of bad guy or dirty, they play it very well and I think they get heat from the crowd. But I do see how you could have an issue with that.

I really just disagree with the idea that what they booked was bad on that finish. I think it was solid and more or less the right way to do it. Simply because there is no need to to have the very established Young Bucks and the already very established FTR get the win, it really didn't matter because the match was a showcase that got everyone over.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:26 PM
Dark Order are fucking awful. Trying to find something nice to say about this. Um, SCU are all talented guys?

slik
07-08-2020, 09:27 PM
Nyla Rose and Dark Order going to give NXT the advantage in ratings this week, though next week I think things will go 'back to normal' when Great American Bash ends

slik
07-08-2020, 09:27 PM
Would be nice to see both AEW and NXT hit 800k in the same week

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:29 PM
I really like Brodie Lee, like physically the way he looks and his wrestling talent and all that... but yeah this gimmick is a bust. They really should have ended it after it bombed to begin with and almost every week thereafter.

slik
07-08-2020, 09:31 PM
LOL Did JR just call Pentagon THE GIMP LOL

That was the best

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:31 PM
There isn't really a segment that is going to offer gains for AEW this week. MAYBE the end of the tag team match, just because "it has to end sometime." But I imagine everything except that so far to lose viewers. Maybe Nyla to gain in hope that there would be semi-naked women writhing around in pain involved (fetish ratings).

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:31 PM
I can't say I don't empathize with the sentiment but I disagree. The ECW reference is welcome, doesn't hurt, they are trying to make that character work with Cage, it's not a home run yet but it isn't a bust either. Nick Jackson is fucking insanely gifted, as a pro wrestling athlete it's not easy to find another who can work and think like he can.

AEW announcing is pretty much the best announcing in like 20 years, if they don't hit it out of the part 100% of the time I think you can cut them some slack. It's JR and Tony for crying out loud!

I don't mind the announcing, I dislike the over the top lovefest, specifically when the claims are so over the top. Nick Jackson does some good spots, but best pure athelete, give me a break. However you want to define, it's not him. Pac is a more gifted high flyer, and much stronger, is more of a pure athlete. A guy like Hager with legit credentials is more of a pure athlete.

Just say "wow, he is such a gifted athlete". It gets the exact same message across without taking it to an absurd level.

And yes, I'm nitpicking, but like I said before, it was the 3rd thing in a row that annoyed me.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:32 PM
Brodie has lost his passion, you can tell. He's telegraphing moves all over the place.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:32 PM
Not really into this match... at all... SCU incredibly boring to me

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:32 PM
And yeah Brodie Lee kinda looks like shit out there tbh... moving really slowly

slik
07-08-2020, 09:33 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we just informed <a href="https://twitter.com/SwoleWorld?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SwoleWorld</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> via formal letter, Big Swole has been suspended from AEW for kidnapping Dr. Britt Baker. Wrestlers can’t kidnap each other. We asked Swole to go home to cool off. Swole’s an important member of our team, and we’ll see her back soon.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1281033493506555905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:34 PM
Dark Oder vs. SCU was pretty good overall. Wasn't anything really special though.

FTR vs. Lucha Bros next week should be great.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:34 PM
Not really into this match... at all... SCU incredibly boring to me

Yeah I can't really see Scorpio sky getting out of SCU as a babyface. He's had his hot moment sure but I think he'll have to go heel to really break out. I wonder if that would be "good"?

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:35 PM
Then why are you not posting in the NXT thread as well?

I think you clearly missed the point. The thread is there because I find it funny that it bothers people. How dare I not have 100% love and devotion to only AEW, right???

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:35 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we just informed <a href="https://twitter.com/SwoleWorld?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SwoleWorld</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> via formal letter, Big Swole has been suspended from AEW for kidnapping Dr. Britt Baker. Wrestlers can’t kidnap each other. We asked Swole to go home to cool off. Swole’s an important member of our team, and we’ll see her back soon.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1281033493506555905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hahahaha! This company is so bush league.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we just informed <a href="https://twitter.com/SwoleWorld?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SwoleWorld</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> via formal letter, Big Swole has been suspended from AEW for kidnapping Dr. Britt Baker. Wrestlers can’t kidnap each other. We asked Swole to go home to cool off. Swole’s an important member of our team, and we’ll see her back soon.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1281033493506555905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:36 PM
Britt probably regretting not having her popemobile this week.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:36 PM
Brodie has lost his passion, you can tell. He's telegraphing moves all over the place.

But what about all his creative freedom?!?!? That makes for the happiest career ever I thought...

slik
07-08-2020, 09:37 PM
Next week's episode looks stacked!

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 09:37 PM
I love Brodie and Colt but not really into this angle

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:37 PM
Yeah looking forward to next week "returning to normal" and hopefully starting new angles and stuff

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:38 PM
Yeah looking forward to next week "returning to normal" and starting new angles and stuff

It's another special episode.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:39 PM
I think you clearly missed the point. The thread is there because I find it funny that it bothers people. How dare I not have 100% love and devotion to only AEW, right???

What?

I'm saying that if your watching both shows, then it would make sense to post in both threads.

Who would even be upset by a NXT thread being made to begin with?

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:40 PM
What is going on at NXT? Anything cool with Thatcher?

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:41 PM
I wish there was a real crowd......

slik
07-08-2020, 09:41 PM
Let's go OC!

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:41 PM
I love Brodie and Colt but not really into this angle

It doesn't help that AEW let out that Brodie was their 4th choice for the Exaulted One. It really hurts any credibility he may have had.

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 09:42 PM
Here we fuckin’ go!!!!

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:44 PM
What is going on at NXT? Anything cool with Thatcher?

Thatcher had a really good match with Oney Lorcan last week, especially for those that enjoy a nice ground-based grapple and holds style match.

For this week, no clue since apparently the thread for that show was nothing more than just a joke.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:46 PM
Thatcher had a really good match with Oney Lorcan last week, especially for those that enjoy a nice ground-based grapple and holds style match.

For this week, no clue since apparently the thread for the show was nothing more than just a joke.

I'll check out Lorcan and Thatcher later thanks!

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:46 PM
It's a blessing for Ortiz and Santana to have Sami out of action.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:47 PM
What?

I'm saying that if your watching both shows, then it would make sense to post in both threads.

Who would even be upset by a NXT thread being made to begin with?

Whoever moved the one I made last week, cause God forbid NXT gets a weekly thread.

And what's the point of posting in a thread to myself? So I can get told I'm spaming my own thread? Like about 5 people did when Noid made a bunch of posts in an NXT thread a few months back.

slik
07-08-2020, 09:48 PM
OC with some solid fundamentals

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 09:50 PM
Santana and Ortiz are gonna have a crazy good face run someday and them vs FTR will rule ass

slik
07-08-2020, 09:50 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> open challenge has been answered for next Wednesday - it’ll be my pleasure to step into the ring with <a href="https://twitter.com/SonnyKissXO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SonnyKissXO</a> <a href="https://t.co/gg6wG3TzmL">pic.twitter.com/gg6wG3TzmL</a></p>&mdash; Cody (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1281042631779328000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:50 PM
It's a blessing for Ortiz and Santana to have Sami out of action.

Agreed, and while I like his character, it works for him, but it does seem Santana and Ortiz do play more goofy with him around.

I like them more as vicious and dangerous henchmen.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 09:51 PM
You can see what Piss Ant is going to do a mile away. He's so fucking shit. It's also weird and gross to see Jericho beat up someone that looks like a teenager.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:53 PM
Okay so thoughts on Sonny Kiss vs Cody for The TNT next week?

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:53 PM
Whoever moved the one I made last week, cause God forbid NXT gets a weekly thread.

And what's the point of posting in a thread to myself? So I can get told I'm spaming my own thread? Like about 5 people did when Noid made a bunch of posts in an NXT thread a few months back.

Then take that up with one of the mods I guess.

I'm pretty much the only one who's been posting regularly in the Samckdown threads but nobody's been complaining about it. Whatever complaints Noid got was likely more due to how he's been acting these past few months and him not bothering to follow through with his supposed big support of NXT at the time and making it just feel fake instead.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:54 PM
Okay so thoughts on Sonny Kiss vs Cody for The TNT next week?

I'm sure Cody will make it great. I don't care for Sonny, but I'm sure it will be the best match he has ever had.

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:55 PM
Then take that up with one of the mods I guess.

I'm pretty much the only one who's been posting regularly in the Samckdown threads but nobody's been complaining about it. Whatever complaints Noid got was likely more due to how he's been acting these past few months and him not bothering to follow through with his supposed big support of NXT at the time.

Sometimes I watch Smackdown I'll try and drop in. Smackdown has some great f'n talent right now. And I'm a closet Corbin fan so...

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 09:56 PM
:lol: the soft kicks followed by a full blown Superkick. Love it.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:56 PM
Whoever moved the one I made last week, cause God forbid NXT gets a weekly thread.

Because it had literally zero replies like 2 hours after the show was over

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 09:57 PM
Then take that up with one of the mods I guess.

I'm pretty much the only one who's been posting regularly in the Samckdown threads but nobody's been complaining about it. Whatever complaints Noid got was likely more due to how he's been acting these past few months and him not bothering to follow through with his supposed big support of NXT at the time.

Right, I was not implying it was you. Just answering you as to why I wasn't posting in that thread despite also watching NXT.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 09:59 PM
This OC vs. Jericho match has been pretty good so far.


Sometimes I watch Smackdown I'll try and drop in. Smackdown has some great f'n talent right now. And I'm a closet Corbin fan so...
Yeah the roster SD has is pretty good. Just wished it was utilized a lot better since the show would be a ton more enjoyable to watch.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 09:59 PM
Cassidy rules

Jordan
07-08-2020, 09:59 PM
Tony "How did Jericho kick out?!?"

JR "EGO, fear of losing, Jericho has talked a BIG game going into this match."

Classics in action.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 10:01 PM
Everything Cassidy does is s0 smooth

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 10:02 PM
Great main event and a really fun show. :y:

Triple A
07-08-2020, 10:02 PM
Rlly good match

Jordan
07-08-2020, 10:02 PM
Such a sweaty match in the humid Jacksonville air I love it!

xrodmuc316
07-08-2020, 10:02 PM
Because it had literally zero replies like 2 hours after the show was over

That is false, it was moved pretty much right away. It certainly wasn't moved 4 hours after it was created.

slik
07-08-2020, 10:03 PM
Fantastic match between Jericho and Orange Cassidy - Jericho just made OC look like a million bucks!

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 10:03 PM
That was every fucking Jericho match ever, he just had it with a broomstick. Fucking boring.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 10:03 PM
That is false, it was moved pretty much right away. It certainly wasn't moved 4 hours after it was created.

No it wasn't, it was moved hours after the show was over. I moved it cause it had 0 replies, so made sense to just put it in the NXT TV thread where it might get more replies imo. I'll leave this week's, hopefully gets some replies but feels like barely anybody here watches NXT

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 10:04 PM
Jericho vs. OC ended up being very good in the end.

Night 2 of Fyter Fest was very entertaining overall. Only real weak point was the Britt and Swole segment since it felt like a big miss from both.


Edit: One of the family cats deciding to suddenly show up and hop on my laptop in the midst of posting was not a good idea by him. At least on the bright side I finally found out where he was hiding this past few hours.

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 10:06 PM
The Good:

* FTR
* Taz talking
* Marq Quen's shooting star technique

The Bad:

* Just about everything fucking else

If you enjoy this shit, fine -- but there's a reason NXT have started wiping their dicks all over the foreheads of this promotion that clearly doesn't give a shit.

slik
07-08-2020, 10:07 PM
Meltzer will rate that match six oranges

slik
07-08-2020, 10:08 PM
Thank you for helping this thread reach 5 pgs tonight Noid!

Love your enthusiasm for discussing AEW each week!!

Mr. Nerfect
07-08-2020, 10:14 PM
PWG with a budget. Wrestling is in the toilet and it's not about to get out.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 10:14 PM
PWG is good

Evil Vito
07-08-2020, 10:35 PM
Fuck I’m still on a high from that main event.

I adore this promotion.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2020, 10:41 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NxpGLX95DTY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:lol: at "This match is better than anything I called back in 2000" by Tony Schiavone.

Was expecting something very adorable and it delivered big time. Nothing is topping the Puppy Battle Royale for wrestling this month. Maybe even worthy of winning an award at this year's TPWW Sheetys Awards festivities.

rez
07-08-2020, 10:44 PM
That is false, it was moved pretty much right away. It certainly wasn't moved 4 hours after it was created.

Triple A is my sock account so I 1002% agree with myself. Suck it up, buttercup.

Fignuts
07-08-2020, 11:11 PM
FTW belt being brought back just to be handed to Cage is cringe as fuck and flies in the face of what that belt meant.

Moxley fits the mold of the FTW title a lot more than Cage, so Taz giving it to Cage in direct opposition to Moxley doesn’t even make sense.

It was a title created out of circumstance that Taz made work because of who he was and how well he portrayed his character. It’s not something you can bring back 20 years later and just give to a guy.

Fignuts
07-08-2020, 11:15 PM
You don’t give the FTW title to a guy like Cage. You give it to a guy who’s willing to walk up to a guy like Cage and punch him in the mouth because he just doesn’t give a fuck.

Great promo from Taz though.

rez
07-08-2020, 11:27 PM
I had to look up the history but ya..I'd agree. Pretty lame-o

rez
07-08-2020, 11:33 PM
OC is becoming less gimmicky each and every week. He's like a fast sloth now with some honey badger in him.

Tonight was meh overall tho.

rez
07-08-2020, 11:37 PM
I'm ready for Omega to be a singles wrestler again.

Triple A
07-08-2020, 11:53 PM
Omega and Page should hopefully finally drop the titles at All Out... Tag division is already stacked, could use them better as singles wrestlers imo

Maybe MJF wins the world title from Moxley at All Out also... lots of potential good feuds for him

slik
07-08-2020, 11:54 PM
Lance Archer needs a title

slik
07-09-2020, 12:01 AM
CERO MIEDO

Hell Yeah

slik
07-09-2020, 12:03 AM
Sign Rusev or push a younger guy who hasn't been sullied, like Absolute Ricky Starks. Or if they sign Rusev.

I wonder if Rusev will be Nyla Rose's manager

slik
07-09-2020, 12:08 AM
Damn...Lana said her grandmother has COVID and is asthmatic....ruling out Rusev, sending good vibes to Lana family

slik
07-09-2020, 12:09 AM
Her Mom, not her Grandma


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My mom tested positive for covid. She is in the ICU right now. She is asthmatic and is on oxygen. Thank you for all the thoughts &amp; prayers ❤️</p>&mdash; CJ “Lana” Perry (@LanaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanaWWE/status/1281043362439737344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
07-09-2020, 12:11 AM
Kimberly Page could be Nyla Rose's manager

slik
07-09-2020, 12:13 AM
Victoria is not the lady to mess with

Damian Rey 2.0
07-09-2020, 01:09 AM
Trying to think of an older talent who's good on the mic they could manage Nyla and I'm drawing blanks. It'd have to be somebody who could bump properly so that they can give a babyface some shine.

Damian Rey 2.0
07-09-2020, 01:17 AM
Enjoyed tonight's show. Tag title match was fun but man I wish private party would ditch that dumb silly string move. Just too contrived for me. I agree that hangman and omega need to drop the belts at all out. I'd like to see lucha bros get them. Mostly because they're Mexican and also because they're legit fun to watch and imo have been misused.

I think it's fine the bucks cost themselves and FTR the match. Them winning after a botch wouldn't build any tension imo. This can start the fire. Everybody looked good in that match.

Jericho giving Cassidy a star making night. I think Orange slips right back to the midcard where he belongs but it was a fun match and Jericho made him look credible.

Next week's FTR v Lucha Bros is prob gonna be the of the night. That's a ppv level match.

I have really liked how they've built up Cage and wish they were holding off on feeding him to Moxley. If They were willing to keep Moxley out of the ring for a while and use the FTW belt as a pseudo world title with Cage destroying babyfaces for a month or so before finally running into and losing to Moxley would be better for a payoff. Instead he'll prob lose clean next week and like Archer and Lee, start back at square one.

Emperor Smeat
07-09-2020, 03:34 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Believe it or not, that horrifying hematoma on Colt Cabana was legit.</p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1281091763621335040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yikes. Thought at first it was just a really amazing job by the make up crew to create something that realistic.

Fignuts
07-09-2020, 03:56 AM
Aren't Lucha Bros still spending a lot of time in Mexico for AAA? That might be why they haven't had as much of a focus.

Impeccable
07-09-2020, 04:06 AM
Trying to think of an older talent who's good on the mic they could manage Nyla and I'm drawing blanks. It'd have to be somebody who could bump properly so that they can give a babyface some shine.

It's gonna end up being Vickie Guerrero isn't it...

Mr. Nerfect
07-09-2020, 05:24 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Believe it or not, that horrifying hematoma on Colt Cabana was legit.</p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1281091763621335040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yikes. Thought at first it was just a really amazing job by the make up crew to create something that realistic.

You should have been able to tell it was legit by that alone. Look at what Brodie Lee wears to the ring. The production values in this company are shit.

drave
07-09-2020, 09:56 AM
lmao at that ^


so ragey

Jordan
07-09-2020, 10:00 AM
I missed this hematoma. Also I think that everyone is going a little too crazy for Jericho/OC. It was a real good main event don't get me wrong but I don't think it was like a 4 star match or anything.

Evil Vito
07-09-2020, 10:31 AM
It wasn't a technical masterpiece or anything but I never expected it to be. I just really appreciated the storytelling from both guys. That match wasn't supposed to be the main but they did it justice and made it work.

Close second behind the crazy 8-man tag for me.

Jordan
07-09-2020, 10:33 AM
It was over hyped though, with Jericho's Tweet saying the best match he's had in 30 years or whatever. I compared it to his bouts with Naito or Tanahashi and it's nowhere close IMO. But still good sure.

Jordan
07-09-2020, 10:38 AM
Dave likely to rate the 8-Man Tag 5 stars. He's raving about it on WOR from last night. "One of the best matches you'll ever see", "maybe the Young Bucks best match", "Likely FTR's best match"...

I think he's getting prone to hyperbole but it was a fucking great match. I just don't think he should constantly be saying stuff like that.

Ol Dirty Dastard
07-09-2020, 10:43 AM
Dave "Flippy Shit" Meltzer

Evil Vito
07-09-2020, 10:45 AM
Hyperbole is a big problem practically every wrestling promotion has nowadays. Everything has to be the best thing ever.

For that reason I don't let other peoples' overhyping impact my own enjoyment. I just take those comments with several grains of salt.

Ol Dirty Dastard
07-09-2020, 10:57 AM
If I'm trolling around looking for matches to watch, I'll check the star ratings but not to decide if it's THE BEST MATCH EVER. But just to know if it'll be a decent watch.

A lot of stuff that's 4 stars from this era is usually overrated and contrived. Honestly, I can't FUCKING stand most NXT matches that people blow their loads over. Very formulaic stuff. Lots of big moves that nobody should kick out of, followed by a million nearfalls.

The few Japan matches I'll watch are pretty good though.

Jordan
07-09-2020, 11:06 AM
I also have trouble with Dave's stars because he rated nothing in WWF 5 stars until I think Cena/Punk which is ridiculous. So many of Bret's 3 1/2 star ratings are todays 4 and a half.

Ol Dirty Dastard
07-09-2020, 11:09 AM
I also have trouble with Dave's stars because he rated nothing in WWF 5 stars until I think Cena/Punk which is ridiculous. So many of Bret's 3 1/2 star ratings are todays 4 and a half.

Didn't he give Austin versus Bret from Mania 5 stars?

But yeah, I'll take any Bret Hart match over a Kenny Omega match 100x over. And I enjoy Kenny, but he doesn't do the little things the way Bret did.

Jordan
07-09-2020, 11:14 AM
Didn't he give Austin versus Bret from Mania 5 stars?

But yeah, I'll take any Bret Hart match over a Kenny Omega match 100x over. And I enjoy Kenny, but he doesn't do the little things the way Bret did.

Yes you're right I just check and he did rate Austin/Bret 5 stars. My point was really though how he totally underrated a lot of great WWF matches because he was so hard over AJPW, AJPW Women, and NJPW at the time.

Ol Dirty Dastard
07-09-2020, 11:18 AM
For sure. I think he gave Bret versus Diesel from Survivor Series 95 a 3.5 star rating, which is horse shit. That match is fucking fantastic. 3.5 stars is solid-very good. But Bret versus Diesel is one of my favorite matches and told an amazing story.

Bad News Gertner
07-09-2020, 11:19 AM
Victoria is not the lady to mess with

I remember being shocked last year when I found out the chick saying that was Nicki Minaj

Jordan
07-09-2020, 11:24 AM
For sure. I think he gave Bret versus Diesel from Survivor Series 95 a 3.5 star rating, which is horse shit. That match is fucking fantastic. 3.5 stars is solid-very good. But Bret versus Diesel is one of my favorite matches and told an amazing story.

Oh man I know. I am all about Bret vs Diesel matches, there are so many good ones on WWE network. There is one from a show in July 94 that ended up being a Colesium tape that is really good, this is after their first match at KOTR 94, both of these matches are really incredible. Bret worked with Nash so well. Also I really enjoyed Bret vs Sid at that Dec 97 In Your House event. Bret was great with the big dudes. But that Survivor Series match was excellent and probably my favorite of all of their matches, but then again you have the cage match at In Your House in Feb 96 that was great too.

Mr. Nerfect
07-09-2020, 11:37 AM
Dave Meltzer needs this shit to be good more than just about anyone. His star ratings are absolute bullshit. I use them when I’m hungry for a great match from history and as a starting point to go down a rabbit-hole, but he very clearly has his biases and there is no consistency. He is an AWFUL reviewer.

drave
07-09-2020, 11:50 AM
The wrestling industry as a whole NEEDS that hyperbole. It is just a promotion thing. No one really believes that RKO v Edge was the GREATEST MATCH EVER or whatever stupid shit they labeled it.


When talking heads in any industry garner large audiences, it is in the interest of their self-promotion and the promotions they are shills for, to use hyperbole.


I also get confused with things like "that was every *insert wrestler name* match ever" which feels like it could apply to every wrestler in history.

Droford
07-09-2020, 12:19 PM
yeah kind of like moose now

Its pretty bad when you resort to copying a storyline <strike>TNA</strike> Impact is currently doing as well

Droford
07-09-2020, 12:22 PM
Lance Archer needs a title

bring in the Saskatchewan Hardcore International Title from one Lance to another

Droford
07-09-2020, 12:26 PM
dumb question time

6 man tag teams are trios

Whats an 8 man tag team

Damian Rey 2.0
07-09-2020, 01:05 PM
Nobody in their right mind should've believed Jericho's hype about his match. His job is to sell the product and get people to tune in. Of course he's gonna over hype it.

Corporate CockSnogger
07-09-2020, 02:48 PM
This was good. 8 man tag was great. Dynamic of Bucks and FTR working together was done really well. If they would’ve turned on each other or anything like, it would’ve been so predictable and been done a million times before. Much better that they’re wanting to prove to each other whose the best

Damian Rey 2.0
07-09-2020, 03:30 PM
When do they blowoff they feud? All Out? I'd think they're not gonna take that long to get that match on a card.

Evil Vito
07-09-2020, 03:34 PM
Yeah it's probably All Out. Bucks/FTR and MJF/Moxley feel like programs they'd love to wait to have regular crowds back for but there seems to be little hope of crowds returning until a vaccine is readily available (probably not until next year) so you may as well just try to go full steam ahead for All Out.

xrodmuc316
07-09-2020, 03:54 PM
dumb question time

6 man tag teams are trios

Whats an 8 man tag team

A spotfest of flips.

Emperor Smeat
07-09-2020, 05:40 PM
I also have trouble with Dave's stars because he rated nothing in WWF 5 stars until I think Cena/Punk which is ridiculous. So many of Bret's 3 1/2 star ratings are todays 4 and a half.

He's mentioned several times in the past that his ratings system was never meant to be taken seriously since he never usually did when it came to rating matches.

Plus he also mentioned before the main reason why there was such a long gap in between 5 star matches in WWF/WWE was less of WWE not being capable of great matches and more of him simply not being that much of a fan of their style. NXT getting rave reviews for their matches from him is mainly due to the PWG influence that brand has.

Damian Rey 2.0
07-09-2020, 07:39 PM
Yeah it's probably All Out. Bucks/FTR and MJF/Moxley feel like programs they'd love to wait to have regular crowds back for but there seems to be little hope of crowds returning until a vaccine is readily available (probably not until next year) so you may as well just try to go full steam ahead for All Out.

That makessense. Looking back, as good as a job as AEW did with building Moxley up to win the belt, his run has been underwhelming. Not becauseof him. But because AEW only had one real heel to feed him and it was Jericho. After that the virus caught them with their pants down as there was nobody readily available to give him a compelling opponent.

If they do go with MJF, and they absolutely should, they'll have plenty of babyfaces to go up against MJF to build up his reign. Page, Omega, Dustin, Jungle Boy again, Luchasauras, etc.

The only question is who's gonna be the guy to dethrone MJF. Unless they retread or decide to go with Cody, I don't see who would be next in line.

Impeccable
07-16-2020, 02:41 AM
It's gonna end up being Vickie Guerrero isn't it...

Called it