raw 8.17

[slik]

raw 8.17

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tune in for the last RAW from the <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEPC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wwepc</a> (until we inevitably burn down <a href="https://twitter.com/AmwayCenter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmwayCenter</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1295387090646163456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

LOL USA network just broke for me, but all the other channels still work.

Retribution shoot breaking the broadcast now

[Emperor Smeat]

Drew McIntyre's been a dragon this whole time?

Hopefully WWE doesn't pull a Game of Thrones with him in the end.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'd laugh had Retribution actually legit broke the show's feed by accident.

[Emperor Smeat]

Guess Retribution got bored of hanging around Kevin Dunn since production quickly went back to normal.

WWE's new US belt would look a ton better had the eagle been in the middle and the US champ text been on the bottom.

[slik]

did the cameras shake when capturing Retribution's wacky antics?

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Crews needing a random distraction in order to beat Benjamin via roll-up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Are they seriously going to run another infidelity-like angle but this time involving Garza?

First hour of RAW has been pretty meh so far.

Edit: Nevermind the big reveal was just the video of Zelina spiking Ford's drink.

[xrodmuc316]

Wait, Shayna is a face now???

[Emperor Smeat]

Why is SummerSlam's tag line "You'll Never See It Coming"?

[Ultra Mantis]

Why is SummerSlam's tag line "You'll Never See It Coming"?

Trying to win back the key demo with Persona 5 references I guess.

[xrodmuc316]

Shayna just destroying Bayley.

[Emperor Smeat]

Women's tag match was very good.

Bayley's been taking a bunch of losses recently between the duo which probably shows how low WWE views SD's women's division these days.

[slik]

raw usually trends at number 1 but not tonight

https://i.postimg.cc/Mpm2N92L/Screenshot-2020-08-17-at-8-34-50-PM.png

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the 4 Horsewomen of MMA randomly hanging out backstage ... well 3 of them since Ronda wasn't there.

[Emperor Smeat]

Outside of the women's tag match, tonight has been meh for matches so far.

raw usually trends at number 1 but not tonight

https://i.postimg.cc/Mpm2N92L/Screenshot-2020-08-17-at-8-34-50-PM.png

Way too much sports competition tonight plus the Democratic Convention going on as well. Likely why WWE decided to hold off on the ThunderDome's debut till the end of the week.

[Emperor Smeat]

Swap out Shane with Dario Cueto and this RAW Underground stuff would be a million times more interesting.

[Emperor Smeat]

Domink channeling his inner Retribution with that sneak attack to Rollins & Murphy.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Shane just abruptly ending the Riddick Moss vs. Arturo Ruas bout despite neither guy lost the fight.

Guess RAW Underground fights have some sort of hidden time limit for fights.

[slik]

RAW appears to have fallen out of the top twenty trends, I don't recall that ever happening during the show before.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wonder if Ali regrets leaving his cushy spot on catering since he's quickly right back to where he was before as just another big nobody on the roster.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE somehow managed to pull off 50/50 booking for Crews in a single show.

Gave him the win against Shelton Benjamin earlier in the show and eliminated his SummerSlam opponent MVP in the 6-man tag but then lost to Lashley.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: an actual feud storyline being done for RAW Underground.

[xrodmuc316]

And just like that, Nia Fat ruined Raw Underground lmao

[Emperor Smeat]

HBK's promo ended up being more about Flair than the WWE title match.

:lol: at him getting RKO'd shortly after invoking the SummerSlam tag line.

This week's episode was somewhat dull overall, especially as a go-home show. Maybe the weakest in a while in terms of ring action and a mixed bag for story stuff. Like why give Montez Ford his big payback moment tonight instead of at SummerSlam and same for why tease the reforming of the MMA Horsewomen only for Nia Jax to quickly plow through Baszler's lackeys.

The rumors about SummerSlam being like a go-home show for Payback feels more accurate after watching tonight's RAW.

[Triple A]

Feels like the same exact matches every week...

[Tom Guycott]

raw 8.17

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Remember when there used to be a battle about "official" RAW threads, and needing to merge two or three of them? And they all would have cutsey names, summaries, and jokes in the thread title?

And here we are in darkest timeline 2020, and it has fallen all the way down to "raw 8.17". It's almost like the Keeper's Diary in Resident Evil. You could see the degradation over time from reading it. Went from an actual diary to:


4

itchy


tasty

[DaveWadding]

Swap out Shane with Dario Cueto and this RAW Underground stuff would be a million times more interesting.

Every match is a LADDER MATCH

[Mr. Nerfect]

:eek: an actual feud storyline being done for RAW Underground.

It’s week three. Holy shit.

[Gerard]

McIntyre with the now standard "each and every one" part of a promo. :roll:

How are promos meant to sound natural and not scripted if Vince constantly inserts his little cliche sayings into them? That phrase is used constantly like it's how everyone talks, in Vince's mind at least. They can't just say "all of you" or "everyone of you"? No, it has to be "each and every one of you\us".

[Mr. Nerfect]

McIntyre with the now standard "each and every one" part of a promo. :roll:

How are promos meant to sound natural and not scripted if Vince constantly inserts his little cliche sayings into them? That phrase is used constantly like it's how everyone talks, in Vince's mind at least. They can't just say "all of you" or "everyone of you"? No, it has to be "each and every one of you\us".

It's probably the biggest problem with the actual content of the shows. Raw and SmackDown may not have genius booking, but the content could be so much better if it didn't get bogged down in scripted promos and bizarre attempts at "drama."

Seth Rollins vs. Rey Mysterio, on paper, should be a dream match/feud. It became this weird and unrealistic quest for the other man's eye. And Vince gets away with this because he has no competition.

When Rey Mysterio, Goldberg and Jeff Hardy have, by default, become the best promos in wrestling, it might be time to reconsider your method there.

[xrodmuc316]

Raw Underground is growing on me.

Retribution has only become dumber.

[Fignuts]

Neither is growing on me.

We’re told Retribution is this big threat, to the point that heels and faces are putting aside their differences to fight them. But again, they come off more like a bunch of immature delinquents, rather than the deadly anarchists we’re meant to believe they are. They are not intimidating at all, no matter what their numbers advantage is.

Raw Underground is a cool, unique idea, but there’s two major problems with it.

1. Presentation. There’s too much “WWE formula” in it. If you’re going to do something different, go all the way different. Otherwise it just comes off as phony and manafactured. And keep Kevin Dunn far away from it.

2. It needs to be its own separate show. It makes no sense having it on a show where the regular programming sees wrestlers do ten times as much damage to each other and still get up. But after just a couple moves on raw underground, the fights are stopped. These are two very different styles of sports entertainment and they can work on their own, but when you put them on the same show, with the same people participating in both no less, it absolutely shatters kayfabe.

[Tom Guycott]

I'm going to be honest, I haven't watched a damn bit of it. Retribution sounds too much like the TNA Aces and Eights storyline for me to even feign interest.

[screech]

Watching this now. It might be less lame if the commentators didn't go "is that retribution????" every time they're on camera pretending to wreck shit.

[screech]

Neither is growing on me.

We’re told Retribution is this big threat, to the point that heels and faces are putting aside their differences to fight them. But again, they come off more like a bunch of immature delinquents, rather than the deadly anarchists we’re meant to believe they are. They are not intimidating at all, no matter what their numbers advantage is.

Raw Underground is a cool, unique idea, but there’s two major problems with it.

1. Presentation. There’s too much “WWE formula” in it. If you’re going to do something different, go all the way different. Otherwise it just comes off as phony and manafactured. And keep Kevin Dunn far away from it.

2. It needs to be its own separate show. It makes no sense having it on a show where the regular programming sees wrestlers do ten times as much damage to each other and still get up. But after just a couple moves on raw underground, the fights are stopped. These are two very different styles of sports entertainment and they can work on their own, but when you put them on the same show, with the same people participating in both no less, it absolutely shatters kayfabe.

I agree with all of this. Retribution does not seem like a group of "tough" people. They seem like teenagers acting out for attention.

Also 100p in on Underground both being its own show and having Kevin Dunn as far away from it as possible. The camera cuts are super disorienting.

[screech]

Was actually looking forward to Natalya vs. Mickie, instead we get Seth whining to Joe.

And it ended in a count out :|

[screech]

I can't believe the people in charge of the camera work get paid for this shit.

[screech]

The hulu cut is 90 minutes and I've still skipped a bunch of this show.

[screech]

I would take Nia Jax in RAW Underground if it means never having to hear her cut a promo again.

[screech]

This was not a good episode, especially for the go-home show for a big event.

[rockman725]

If somebody finds a GIF of Ninja Power with the "ninja" stepping up on the apron and getting blasted, please post. I want to caption that: "WWE Ninjas...Makes the Foot Clan look like Harvard Scholars!"

[Emperor Smeat]

If somebody finds a GIF of Ninja Power with the "ninja" stepping up on the apron and getting blasted, please post. I want to caption that: "WWE Ninjas...Makes the Foot Clan look like Harvard Scholars!"

https://i.imgur.com/03k0J5f.gif

[screech]

The ninjas were not on the Hulu cut :(

[Tom Guycott]

The hulu cut is 90 minutes and I've still skipped a bunch of this show.

Do they still cut out entire matches? I get trimming for time by getting rid of entrances, but never understood removing whole segments. The last time I tried to regularly watch on Hulu, there was a spot in the show that was like "Hey, remember this important thing that happened last week?" No, I don't, because it happened in the match you cut. It wasn't important enough to air, but now I'm supposed to get a reference to it? That's bad fucking storytelling for folks deluding themselves into being "episodic televison".

[screech]

Yes they do. That KO Show segment being played in the Retribution vignettes did not make it. Also I have not seen any of the Riott Squad reunion stuff.