The Suicide Squad (2021)

[GD]

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I wasn't aware of this. Pretty neat.

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[Lock Jaw]

Looks cool.... hopefully they can market the F out of it in a way that will make people forget the first one

[Seanny One Ball]

I didn't mind the first one too badly. It was probably a 2/4 film but I liked Will Smith in it.
Shit baddie though and it was too damned cheesy.

[Fignuts]

The first one was paced weirdly and had a one dimensional villain, but I still enjoyed it for what it was, and thought it got more hate than it deserved.

Did they recast deadshot or is Idris playing a different character? Because Idris doesn’t seem like a good fit for the character.

[Lock Jaw]

Idris playing Bloodsport

Who originally was a white supremacist gun-nut who could teleport whatever gun he wanted into his hands.

There was a black one after, who I dont believe was a white supremacist. Forget his origin now. I remember he fought the white one, though.

[Lock Jaw]

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Lots of cannon-fodder to be had in this one I think

[Fignuts]

Ya know I’m actually surprised that in today’s PC obsessed culture, the name “suicide squad” hasn’t been called out as being insensitive.

[Seanny One Ball]

Bloodsport is the dumbest name I have heard yet

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

The first film is two hours of my life I wish I could have back. I will not be going near this one.

[Fignuts]

Bloodsport is the dumbest name I have heard yet

Jean Claude Van Damme would like a word

[Seanny One Ball]

That's why it's a dumb name for a guy though.

Nobody thinks beyond Van Damme's seminal masterpiece when they hear "Bloodsport".
It's one of those pieces of pop culture so strong that it will take generations to replace.

Pretty much when Van Damme's is relegated to pub quiz status in 200 years.

[Fignuts]

Blood sport is pretty much every c-list 90’s comic character name

[Lock Jaw]

Idris playing Bloodsport

Who originally was a white supremacist gun-nut who could teleport whatever gun he wanted into his hands.

There was a black one after, who I dont believe was a white supremacist. Forget his origin now. I remember he fought the white one, though.

Never mind, got this backwards.... the black Bloodsport was the original, and he was some crazy Vietnam vet who got powered up by Lex Luthor to try to kill Superman. White supremacist one came after..... they would later box each other in prison because the warden thought it would be a good idea

[Fignuts]

Fuck I hope this doesn’t mean the upcoming suicide squad game is movie based. I want rocksteady’s take on the comic.

[Lock Jaw]

Haven't paid attention to much about it, but it does seem completely separate (other than sharing some characters obviously).

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Completely it's own thing. Still has Deadshot in it (the game), and a tattoo'd King Shark.

[Tom Guycott]

Bloodsport is the dumbest name I have heard yet

Jean Claude Van Damme would like a word

That's why it's a dumb name for a guy though.

Nobody thinks beyond Van Damme's seminal masterpiece when they hear "Bloodsport".
It's one of those pieces of pop culture so strong that it will take generations to replace.

Pretty much when Van Damme's is relegated to pub quiz status in 200 years.

Blood sport is pretty much every c-list 90’s comic character name

Never mind, got this backwards.... the black Bloodsport was the original, and he was some crazy Vietnam vet who got powered up by Lex Luthor to try to kill Superman. White supremacist one came after..... they would later box each other in prison because the warden thought it would be a good idea

Figgy and LJ are right in conjunction; it's so 90s, they used the name twice! Surprised there wasn't a Marvel Bloodsport.

I wonder if they're going to find a way for him to teleport in weaponry, or if they somehow make it a super power, or just try to change him into "totally not Will Smith Deadshot" and hope nobody notices?

[Seanny One Ball]

Does he have a car called Motorsport, a wife called Watersports and some kids he never sees called No Contact Sports?

[Lock Jaw]

John Cena's Peacemaker getting his own HBO Max show.

Guess he survives.

[slik]

or it could be a prequel

[Lock Jaw]

True I guess

[Lock Jaw]

Guess I should have actually read the whole article, def a prequel:

"Oh f*ck, it’s Peacemaker! HBO Max is set to explore the origins of the Peacemaker character, the master of weapons from the highly anticipated upcoming The Suicide Squad film, in the new Max Original action-adventure-comedy series"

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I somehow doubt that the new Suicide Squad film is "highly anticipated".

[Fignuts]

I somehow doubt that the new Suicide Squad film is "highly anticipated".

I think it actually is, given James Gunn's involvement.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah it definitely is.

[GD]

I somehow doubt that the new Suicide Squad film is "highly anticipated".

:roll:

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

We'll see. I anticipate a hot mess, even with James Gunn at the helm.

[Lock Jaw]

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[GD]

We'll see. I anticipate a hot mess, even with James Gunn at the helm.

:roll:

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'll admit it; that new trailer is better than the original Suicide Squad film. But given how much of shitfest the last one was, that does not take much.

[Destor]

the 1st suicide squad had a great trailer

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah.... they really "Guardians of the Galaxy"d the trailer for the first one because it was big at the time.... then because the reception to the trailer was so great they reshot bits and re-edited the movie to try to be more in-line with the tone of the trailer and ended up a bit of a mess....

This time around they just went out and got the Guardians of the Galaxy dude and had that be the tone from the start, so I've got hopes for this movie! F yeah, Starro.

[Destor]

i do think it will be better...but its important to remmeber the trailer was super hype and the film was a fucking dumpster fire

[Lock Jaw]

To be fair, Suicide Squad wasn't the first and won't be the last movie to not be as good as its trailer. So, not like that was a unique "Suicide Squad"-specific occurrence.

[Destor]

hopefully 2 will be the most improved sequel of all time

[Lock Jaw]

I mean, usually sequels are disappointing because the original sets the bar high..... when the original sets the bar low... probably going to be easy to be better.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Harley Quinn movie was way better than suicide squad and was a quasi sequel to that movie. I have hopes James Gunn can save this and make at the very least entertaining. King Shark looks like he’ll steal the show.

[mitchables]

great trailer. i'm on board. pretty sure boomerang, mongal, savant, whoever pete davidson is playing, tdk, weasel and the rest of "team 1" except for flagg are going to die immediately—hence the need for "team 2", who seem to actually be the focus of the film

[Sixx]

We will finally get to see the Polka-Dot Man! My life makes sense again!

[Destor]

birds of prey was terrible

[Lock Jaw]

I quite enjoyed Birds of Prey aside from calling that character Cassandra Cain for no good reason.

[GD]

birds of prey was terrible

I thought it was fun. Margot Robbie was tremendous.

[drave]

hopefully 2 will be the most improved sequel of all time

I mean, usually sequels are disappointing because the original sets the bar high..... when the original sets the bar low... probably going to be easy to be better.




Here's a good question:




With which films were the sequel (or sequels) better than the original?

[Sixx]

Terminator 2.

[Destor]

i think T1 is better. T2 is unquestionably more loved so i know thats a "hot take" but T2 is a summer action flick. T1 is a really good piece of scifi. imaginative. the "horror" aspect (using that loosely) is much more compelling. Arnold hunting. them being on the run. the terror when he shows up. it all has more weight. its a more intense film where as the stakes feel very low in T2 since at its core the film is just an excuse for explosions and the audience knows it.

[Fignuts]

I feel the same about Alien over the generally more popular Aliens.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Godfather 2

[Sixx]

i think T1 is better. T2 is unquestionably more loved so i know thats a "hot take" but T2 is a summer action flick. T1 is a really good piece of scifi. imaginative. the "horror" aspect (using that loosely) is much more compelling. Arnold hunting. them being on the run. the terror when he shows up. it all has more weight. its a more intense film where as the stakes feel very low in T2 since at its core the film is just an excuse for explosions and the audience knows it.

He had a cooler jacket in T2. Killed all your arguments right there.

[Destor]

I feel the same about Alien over the generally more popular Aliens.
fully agree
Godfather 2great example. GF1 is outstanding but GF2 is a masterpiece

He had a cooler jacket in T2. Killed all your arguments right there.
WELL PLAYED

[Big Vic]

Indiana Jones: Last Crusade was my fav of the original 3

[Destor]

i prefer raiders but crusade > doom

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

There is never any love for Temple of Doom, though granted it is the darkest of the films.

[Fignuts]

Captain America Winter Soldier

[GD]

That was a really action movie. Loved it.

[Seanny One Ball]

"Thor: Ragnarok" which proved that a sequel can actually vastly improve upon and make up for its predecessors.

[GD]

Love me some Taika Waikiki

[McLegend]

The Dark Knight

[Big Vic]

Spiderman 2

[Seanny One Ball]

Spiderman 2 was a really great cinema trip for me.
TDK was also amazing in the cinema.

Hmmm, don't think I have seen any other superhero films in the cinema...
Genuinely wracking my brain now...
Pretty good streak going if true.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Winter Soldier is definitely the best Captain America film IMO. Also, Infinity War and End Game are better than Age of Ultron.

The Dark Knight was excellent.

Godzilla v Kong was better than King of the Monsters

[Lock Jaw]

Non-Red-Band Trailer pretty good too:

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[Seanny One Ball]

WTF

Adam Wingard director of "Godzilla Vs Kong" is going to direct a sequel to "Face/Off".
What in the world...

[drave]

Next up: Heat 2 - Still Trying to Find the Van

[drave]

Snatch 2: Mickey "Periwinkle Blue" The Pikey origin story

[Seanny One Ball]

Heat 2: All Pacino

Snatch 2: The Unkempt Anus

[Sixx]

WTF

Adam Wingard director of "Godzilla Vs Kong" is going to direct a sequel to "Face/Off".
What in the world...

Maybe Godzilla and Kong will trade faces!

[Reacher]

I didn't mind the first one too badly. It was probably a 2/4 film but I liked Will Smith in it.
Shit baddie though and it was too damned cheesy.

I was going to post almost this exact same thing, but yes....I pretty much agree with this sentiment. Suicide Squad 1, Batman vs. Superman, and even Avengers just didn’t do it for me. Dark Knight trilogies and X-men are the only things that I really got behind and even with X-men, it was pretty much only First Class, Days of Future Past, Wolverine origins, Apocalypse (kind of), Logan, and the original X-men I and II. The one where Wolverine acted with the gooks wasn’t too bad either. This will sound odd but I think watching Logan and Professor X die in Logan took too much out of me as far as superhero movies go. I haven’t enjoyed a superhero movie since Logan, although the new Batman that will come out will likely change that.

[Lock Jaw]

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[El Vaquero de Infierno]

This does not look like a complete shitshow. We'll see.

[Lock Jaw]

Casual light-hearted jokes about child murders

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That looks really fun

[Zeeboe]

It looks like shit. It’s a sequel and pretty much all sequels are made because the first movie made money, but the sequels are always trash. “Harley Quinn” is outdated. She’s 2016. She should have stayed there.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Reviews are out and so far the reception is super positive

[RP]

Every review i've read is incredible.

[slik]

98% on Rotten Tomatoes so far out of 62 reviews

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Amazing turnaround after how disastrous the last one was reviewed

[Seanny One Ball]

Here's a good question:




With which films were the sequel (or sequels) better than the original?

Terminator 2.

i think T1 is better. T2 is unquestionably more loved so i know thats a "hot take" but T2 is a summer action flick. T1 is a really good piece of scifi. imaginative. the "horror" aspect (using that loosely) is much more compelling. Arnold hunting. them being on the run. the terror when he shows up. it all has more weight. its a more intense film where as the stakes feel very low in T2 since at its core the film is just an excuse for explosions and the audience knows it.

I feel the same about Alien over the generally more popular Aliens.


T2 is a much, much better film than Terminator is. Terminator is a slick, stripped down horror style sci fi film, a lot like Alien with less in the way of fantastic dialogue and plot development. It is a great film but it is a high concept derivative. T2 is both a tremendously original film in terms of style and innovation, as well as being more broadly enjoyable. There is a far higher production value with an aesthetic and sound that have influenced pop culture ever since.

[Seanny One Ball]

Terminator evolving to T2 is like when Rap went from Sugarhill Gang to NWA

[drave]

Man, I remember when it hit the Blockbuster shelves. I remember being sick as hell and my mom inviting like 10 people over to watch it in the apartment we lived in. Also remember it feeling like "forever" because it was a long movie, but also the weird time distortion that happens when being sick.


Damn good movie.

[M-A-G]

drave giving me them flashbacks to video rental places dedicating an entire wall to a new release.

[drave]

Right? And they would usually have red tags instead of the standard blue because they were a 24 or 48 hour rental.




I remember moving to the East side and discovering Red Giraffe Video. Their rentals for movies and SNES games was 7 days, standard. That was where I discovered this strategy game called "Gemfire". Dunno why I liked that game so much, as its the only one of it's genre I've ever played, but I rented that game for a month straight.






Mmmmeeeemmoooorrrriiieeeesssssssss.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah Terminator 2: Judgement Day was so good my dad let me watch it when I was 7 or 8.
It coloured my imagination permanently.
James Cameron turned out to be a huge weirdo but I guess that’s the thin end of the wedge in Hollywood. Plus he’s smart enough to leave Terminator alone now. If he directs another Terminator then it’s because Avatar turns out to be a Ponzi scheme he wasn’t in on.

[Fignuts]

T2 is unquestionably a better made film. That said, the first film has a level of tension that, while not absent in T2, is severely lessened by the the sole fact that the protagonists have their own walking killing machine protecting this time around. So I can totally see people who lean more towards horror and suspense preferring the first film.

[Seanny One Ball]

There’s no argument to be made over which is the better film.

[Lock Jaw]

Not objectively, but subjectively somebody could like the first one better.


Anyways, I'm very excited to see The Suicide Squad.

[Seanny One Ball]

Only a serial rapist would say they preferred The Terminator.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Got my tickets to see it Friday in IMAX. Going with my youngest brother, who I haven’t seen a movie with in almost two years. V excited.

[drave]

Not objectively, but subjectively somebody could like the first one better.


Anyways, I'm very excited to see The Suicide Squad.




Yeah, what's the deal with a "totally different" movie anyway? Just two director's with different visions or whatever?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The first director delivered a turd that the studio appears to have butchered due to meddling and wanting it to be more guardians of the galaxy. Then Gunn got canned from Disney for a bit and WB ran and gave him this franchise to go ape shit work and apparently it’s paid off.

I’m interested to see Ayer’s cut but I’m not trying to pretend he’s some grade A filmmaker. He’s very hit or miss, critically.

[Fignuts]

Like 5 minutes in and I'm already cracking up.

[Fignuts]

This was fantastic. Really enjoyed it.

Cena has definitely improved as an actor. He has some really good moments in this moments in this movie. He might actually be my favorite character in the movie.

Margo did a much better job with Harvey's accent this time. Feel like it was barely there in the first one.

Only thing I didn't like was Boomerang getting axed so soon. He was one of the few bright spots in the first film and I was disappointed we didn't get more from him in this one. Feel like he would have had great chemistry with the other team.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I actually liked this film; I'd say it is probably the best of the recent DC films, which isn't saying much, given how low the bar was to begin with, but Gunn definitely undid the clusterfuck of the first film.

I look forward to GotG 3.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That opening storming the beach scene was insane.

[Destor]

Suicide Sauad


The Suicide Squad


whats the next one called?


Theyre The Suicide Squad?

[Lock Jaw]

Was good. First half was kinda meh, but once they got to Jotunheim it became very good.

[Seanny One Ball]

Fuck off...

[Destor]

wasnt a big fan of birds of prey. i liked huntress

[drave]

What a helluva movie, seriously the best I've seen in a very long while. From start to finish, it just kept it moving. The comedy is fucking great. I now understand what people mean when they speak about Gunn.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Suddenly wanna see Gunn’s original vision for the live action Scooby Doo film

[Big Vic]

Suicide Sauad


The Suicide Squad


whats the next one called?


Theyre The Suicide Squad?

they should probably just go with that. 4th one can be:

"Hey! They're The Suicide Squad"

[Destor]

Hey look! Its The Suicide Squad

[drave]

Can fit "Jinkies!" in there too, for the inevitable Scooby Doo crossover.

[Sepholio]

Who's Under That Mask? ZOINKS, It's The Suicide Squad.

[drave]

Wanna see a Shaggy based mini-series that follows him on bad trips and explains why he hears Scooby talk, by Gunn

[Sepholio]

Fear and Loathing in the Mystery Machine