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slik
09-07-2020, 07:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why do they do every match until we don't wanna see it ever again? <a href="https://t.co/oTZnS3cwGa">pic.twitter.com/oTZnS3cwGa</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1303103553947553793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This will be the fourth time Randy Orton and Keith Lee have shared a ring in 14 days.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wwe?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wwe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a></p>&mdash; Tom Colohue (@Colohue) <a href="https://twitter.com/Colohue/status/1303104108593926145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why not, ya know, actually build to this match a bit more?<br><br>I hope it ends like a minute in.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/MekQF16LFt">https://t.co/MekQF16LFt</a></p>&mdash; Blake Oestriecher (@BOestriecher) <a href="https://twitter.com/BOestriecher/status/1303103784139264002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is Monday the only day where the Raw brand-exclusive renegade group the Retribution can cause havoc within a window of 3 hours in the late evening.</p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1303057342360100871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:10 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why do they do every match until we don't wanna see it ever again? <a href="https://t.co/oTZnS3cwGa">pic.twitter.com/oTZnS3cwGa</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1303103553947553793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is the biggest issue I have with how WWE handles their booking for a long while.

They have a massive roster because they've been hoarding a ton of talent over the years but instead of keeping things fresh, they just run feuds and matches into the ground that makes PPV matches feel even less special than before.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:22 PM
Cedric's heel turn might be the most interesting thing he's done since getting put on RAW.

Volare
09-07-2020, 08:25 PM
Evil Cedrick, cool.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:34 PM
:lol: at the botched ending with the ref and sound effects.

That Street Profits vs. Garza & Andrade match was a mess.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:35 PM
Guess WWE finally remembered about their Brand Invitational rule since Cesaro and Nakamura just showed up.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:43 PM
:lol: R-Truth.

Peyton's new theme sounds terrible and also very generic. She had a much better singles theme pre-IIconics time in NXT.

Even Billie Kay's new theme sounds terrible.

Volare
09-07-2020, 08:44 PM
PEYTON SINGLE DEBUT!

Volare
09-07-2020, 08:44 PM
And woooow that entrance. Holy fuck.

Volare
09-07-2020, 08:50 PM
Love Peyton n all, but dammit if her shorts get any thinner in-between, she's gonna have the next malfunction like Sasha semi did vs Charlotte at Hell in a Cell.

Volare
09-07-2020, 08:52 PM
Nice little match there.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:52 PM
If WWE really does have big push plans for Peyton, that match did not really help her.

Volare
09-07-2020, 08:53 PM
Showed her flexibility in her entrance, and her new finisher....yep. Nice "little" match.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 08:57 PM
:lol: at Shawn Michaels and Sweet Chin Music trending during RAW.

All because a player on the Toronto Raptors accidentally busted out a superkick earlier in the Celtics vs. Raptors game that's going on right now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*Shelton Benjamin comes flying over the ropes at Shawn Michaels*<br><br>Shawn Michaels: <a href="https://t.co/1Hoz1YKy94">pic.twitter.com/1Hoz1YKy94</a></p>&mdash; Nic Mason (@British_Raven19) <a href="https://twitter.com/British_Raven19/status/1303120677495595008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
09-07-2020, 09:02 PM
Who do you think had a better entrance, Peyton or Billie?

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:08 PM
Peyton by a god damn mile.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 09:12 PM
Peyton overall but both of their entrance themes were very generic.

Show's almost half over and its been somewhat boring so far.

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:13 PM
Mickie still looks amazing.

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:14 PM
And Lana looks cute in pink.

slik
09-07-2020, 09:15 PM
I just now noticed Michael Cole is on RAW instead of Tom Phillips

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:16 PM
Mickie and her obsession of smacking asses...

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:18 PM
Fake crowd counting is fucking weird.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 09:21 PM
I just now noticed Michael Cole is on RAW instead of Tom Phillips

Cole mentioned earlier that Phillips took the week off for a vacation break.


Fake crowd counting is fucking weird.
Yeah. WWE's been very hit-or-miss with the timing and usage of fake crowd reactions for these ThunderDome shows.

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:22 PM
Ok if this Cedrick flip shit is only for a night...then what a fucking waste.

slik
09-07-2020, 09:23 PM
Does Adam Pearce's character have an onscreen title - is he the GM of Raw?

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:28 PM
McMahon's gopher.

Volare
09-07-2020, 09:29 PM
Ok ok ok I'm diggin Cedrick now.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 09:33 PM
Does Adam Pearce's character have an onscreen title - is he the GM of Raw?

Don't think so although now that I think about it, he somehow has become the default authority guy for RAW and SD in recent weeks. He just showed up out of the blue one week and stuck around since then.

Not sure if he does the same for 205 Live since I don't watch that show but that would be part of his realm.

slik
09-07-2020, 09:39 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> tonight. But rumor is they’re changing the name of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEMainEvent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEMainEvent</a> to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MainEventMustafa?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MainEventMustafa</a>. Catch me on this week’s episode! <a href="https://t.co/ZbzZIuY9zM">pic.twitter.com/ZbzZIuY9zM</a></p>&mdash; Mustafa Ali / Adeel Alam (@AliWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/AliWWE/status/1303142427369369602?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 09:44 PM
:lol: at another botched finish on tonight's show.

That 8-man tag match was pretty good though and best thing on the show so far.

slik
09-07-2020, 09:45 PM
That was quite the ref botch on a 2-count

fundiddle
09-07-2020, 09:45 PM
wow, i don't remember the last time i watched raw, or the last time i saw TWO matches end with a botched pinfall/count and both times the ref was just like "fuck it, ring the bell"

slik
09-07-2020, 09:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ivar possibly injured on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/jKYpDa0emp">pic.twitter.com/jKYpDa0emp</a></p>&mdash; NoDQ.com: #WWE #WWEClash 2020 news (@nodqdotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/nodqdotcom/status/1303148324187443200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 09:56 PM
WWE smartly dropped all the dumb stuff Lee wore the week before for his entrance gear.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:00 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ivar possibly injured on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/jKYpDa0emp">pic.twitter.com/jKYpDa0emp</a></p>&mdash; NoDQ.com: #WWE #WWEClash 2020 news (@nodqdotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/nodqdotcom/status/1303148324187443200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully its nothing serious but Erik can wave goodbye to any screen time he's getting these next few weeks going by how Vince handles tag teams when one guy gets hurt.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:08 PM
That might have been the worst and/or most boring match Keith Lee has had since joining WWE.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:11 PM
:lol: at Black vs. Owens ending via no contest on RAW Underground.

Guess Shane was right about there being no rules for Underground matches since whatever they are using keeps changing almost every week.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:16 PM
Adam Pearce sort of resembles a bald version of HBK.

Volare
09-07-2020, 10:16 PM
I literally quit after the Lee/Orton match.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:17 PM
Wait, didn't the match graphic earlier in the show mention Nia Jax and not Shayna for this handicap match?

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:22 PM
That might have been the worst handicap match in WWE history.

Also :lol: at Shayna losing.

Guess there are 2 handicap matches tonight since Nia's match is up next. Either I missed the first part of that match graphic earlier or missed Cole mentioning 2 matches assuming he did so.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:25 PM
:lol: at the amount of breaks in the Owens vs. Black Underground match.

Everything about tonight's show so far feels like it was put together very haphazardly.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:29 PM
Guess SD's mysterious hacker is a member of Retribution based on those shenanigans.

:lol: at Retribution members getting their voices distorted. That 2nd voice defiantly sounded like it was from Dominik Dijakovic.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:35 PM
Dominik's mom being in his corner for his match against Murphy definitely improves the odds someone is getting whacked with a shoe tonight.

After all of that, Owens vs. Black really did end in a no contest on RAW Underground.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 10:46 PM
WWE must have hired El Generico recently to be the boss of their music division since even Murphy's theme was very generic.

The new group WWE hired might be legit worse than CFO$ was in general.

Emperor Smeat
09-07-2020, 11:03 PM
:lol: at RAW ending with the Mysterio Family whacking the crap out of Murphy with kendo sticks.

Street Fight was pretty good.

RAW itself was mostly boring overall. Only good stuff that happened was Cedric's heel turn, the 8-man tag, and the Street Fight. Everything else was forgettable or dull.

slik
09-07-2020, 11:03 PM
Nothing ruins what should be a fun moment more than shaking the camera and zooming in and out incessantly.

Unbearable.

slik
09-07-2020, 11:14 PM
I don't think I can watch RAW anymore (I never see SD).

It's certainly not the talent - It's the camera work. I think it's finally done me in. It's just hideous and distracting. Back to PPVs only for me at this point for WWE

Volare
09-08-2020, 01:07 AM
Seeing the sunset flip bomb into the table, Murphy's selling, and (for once) Cole's announcing worked....just woooooooooow.

Volare
09-08-2020, 01:08 AM
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LMAO

Sixx
09-08-2020, 02:41 AM
Dominik Mysterio main eventing RAW... Why are they shoving him down People's throats?

Fignuts
09-08-2020, 05:48 AM
They're not. It's actually been a pretty long build to get to this point.

Sixx
09-08-2020, 05:52 AM
Oh? Well, it's still weird to me that he was in the main event.

Bad News Gertner
09-08-2020, 01:57 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ivar possibly injured on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/jKYpDa0emp">pic.twitter.com/jKYpDa0emp</a></p>&mdash; NoDQ.com: #WWE #WWEClash 2020 news (@nodqdotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/nodqdotcom/status/1303148324187443200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Ok, I get wrestling has evolved/changed whatever.

Why is someone the size of Ivar doing suicide dives. It used to annoy me when Luke Harper did them. I don't get big men trying to work a lightweight style. It just makes everything look so dumb. I HATE shit like this.

xrodmuc316
09-08-2020, 07:57 PM
Ok, I get wrestling has evolved/changed whatever.

Why is someone the size of Ivar doing suicide dives. It used to annoy me when Luke Harper did them. I don't get big men trying to work a lightweight style. It just makes everything look so dumb. I HATE shit like this.

I honestly don't like the move. It is incredibly overdone, and it should only be done by someone athletic enough to land on their feet when they do it to limit injuries.

LQcjemDLYEw

drave
09-08-2020, 07:59 PM
dive

drave
09-08-2020, 08:00 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f5935b50aac324ac9b868aebfef17d73/tenor.gif?itemid=7916110

Bad News Gertner
09-08-2020, 08:47 PM
I honestly don't like the move. It is incredibly overdone, and it should only be done by someone athletic enough to land on their feet when they do it to limit injuries.

LQcjemDLYEw


Big men doing high flying moves in general bothers me. It makes the move less special and further causes everything to just blend together.

Unless it's in a very special match like a Wrestlemania match.