Really old games that kick the sh*t out of today's newer games

[Bricktop]

Today I was bored, cleaning out my closet and low and behold I came upon some classic games. I found a good amount of old school games like, Super Mario 3, The first two Zelda games for nes, Wizards and Warriors, Ikari Warriors, Double Dragon and Mike Tyson's Punch Out. It always brings back memories of how much I enjoyed these games as a kid and how like 90% of all game makers today have lost the ability to make games that kick as much ass as these games, which are almost 20 years old.

I am interested in seeing what everyone's favorite old school games are, so
list your favorite old school games here.

[Head]

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out = best game ever made.

King Hippo :love:

[Bricktop]

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out = best game ever made.

King Hippo :love:

Hit'em in the band-aid area and watch that fat bastard go down for the count :love:

[Shaggy]

My favorite game growing up on the NES with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Couldnt stop playing that game.

[Bricktop]

My favorite game growing up on the NES with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Couldnt stop playing that game.

You mean the hard as hell one, with that god awful swimming board? I loved that game, but it was so hard to finish. :(

[The Ravishing One]

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out = best game ever made.

King Hippo :love:

:y:

[SukkaChump]

Bad Dudes... ALL THE WAY

also Double Dragon Vs. The battle toads kicked major ass, hard as fuck though

[PorkSoda]

A few Sega games...
Toejam and Earl :yes:
Kid Chameleon (Devils Marsh :mad: )
Triple Play 96

[Boomer]

Marble Madness
Sonic 2
Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Excite Bike

[Xero]

Super Mario 1-Yoshi's Island
All the Sonics
Stunt Race FX
Claymates
Bubsy
Yoshi's Cookie
Yoshi
Mc Kids
Any Megaman
Bart vs. the Space Mutants
Felix the Cat

Game companies nowadays need to get their shit together... Its nothing like the days of old school...

[packt up]

Mario 3 on the Nes
Mario Kart for superNes
Micromachines on Megadrive
Civ2 for PC

[91]

Sensible Soccer. That game ruled.

[Loose Cannon]

Mega MAN 2

[packt up]

Sensible Soccer. That game ruled.

Holy shit yes :love:

[Guest #1]

ROTK III, Civilizations III and SimCity 2000 all wasted alot of my time, but I would keep comming back. They are some of the ones that I would take over what is available today.

[Jonster]

Civilization III is the latest version

And in my opinion Sim City 4 is much more enjoyable and playable than Sim City 2000 - even though that game was the shit back in the day.

Can't be arsed to think of any games now, off to play Street Fighter 2 :shifty:

[Vega]

X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter.

[loopydate]

TECMO Super Bowl is still the best football game ever made.

And some of the newer military strategy games look pretty, but General Chaos still kicks all their asses, imo.

[Bricktop]

Today's games focus way to much on graphics and not enough on making them fun to play. This is why most of the games from the golden age of videogames (80-90) was so great.

[Bad Company]

Double Dragon
Shinobi
Street Rod :love:

[Bricktop]

Shinobi

Till this day I could never beat the final boss, the masked ninja. The bastard on the sega master system was like impossible to beat. :mad:

I played that one day and night though :love:

[Buzzkill]

There are a few of the old games that kick the shit out of some of the newer games, but there are none that kick the shit out of all of todays games.

[Bricktop]

thats like comparing apples to oranges. This isn't lord of videogames, there isn't one game to rule them all. Seriously now. Yeah, but considering that some people enjoy nes games better then new hi tech games, it shows you that a lot of today's games have a lot to learn. If they didn't they wouldn't be selling orginal nes/Snes games for GBA.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Teenage Mutent Ninja Turtles 2 Arcade edition was hard to beat, but was a kick ass game. as Xero Limit said, Game companies need to get their shit together... It's nothing like the days of old school, because for the most part, games were hard to beat back then but nowadays they are so easy, like my favourite WWF/E series Smackdown, the Smackdown mode is like super easy to beat up and win in matchs against CPU'S, the only thing that was hard was the submissions when the opponent had 8+ submission

[Dazz]

Kwirk and Tetris on the game boy were quality.

Pac Man, the new zealand story and lemmings from the Amiga are also top games.

[Jonster]

Sorry, I didn't want to have to do this, but I feel the need to play Devil's Advocate.

Games companies can hear people cry out consistently for harder games, and you know what they'll do about it?
Nothing.
Games companies don't have to do shit.

Gaming now isn't as specialist (for lack of a better work) as it used to be back in the 8-bit and 16-bit days.
Games now reach a wider audience than ever before, and games are more expensive to make than ever before. The industry, while still in relative infancy, is evolving.
It's evolving to stay alive.
Because games cost so much to make, they need to make sure they'll at least get their money back.
That's why you see so many licenced products, and I bet not one of them will be made harder than necessary.
You know why? Easier games make more money, and most games get sequels.
Also, a badly licenced game reflects badly on the licence.
Lets look at a couple of examples...

Scenario A:
Kid has just got a brand new game X by Company.
Kid loads up game X, and plays it. It's hard as nails that have been strengthened over 17 years using a special Nail Strengthening Solution.
Kid takes game back to shop out of fustration, Company loses money.
Company make sequel game Y, Kid is interested. Remembers X and remembers how hard it was. Kid doesn't buy it, Company loses more money.

Scenario B:
Kid has just got a brand new game X by Company.
Kid loads up game X, and plays it. It presents a mild, but ultimately unchallenging experience. Kid completes it and enjoys it.
Sequel Y comes out, Kid goes wow, I enjoyed X, buys Y.
Company gets 2 extra sales.

Imagine each of those scenarios happening not just to one kid, but nationwide or even worldwide.
I like a challenge as much as the next person, and there are games released that account for the hardened gamer (Ikaruga and Ninja Gaiden spring instantly to mind).
But sales of Ikaruga were little, and I bet Ninja Gaiden, despite positive reviews (which also point out the difficulty), doesn't sell that well.
Both have fanbases, but not as big as say a FIFA fanbase.

You have to remember that when you play games, you're playing a product of an industry that's out to make money.

Yes, most people get into the games industry to make games because of the love of them. That's why I'll get into it, but these people still need a wage.

Reading over a history of videogames book I have, a lot of companies were started by businessmen who knew nothing about games.

Then because of the lack of understanding for games by these, programmers and designers would leave and form their own companies, only for them to have to close down, or be brought out many years later.

That's why you'll never get your hard games.

Please note, that I do really enjoy games that challenge me, and push me to get better, but it's not gonna happen.


Today's games focus way to much on graphics and not enough on making them fun to play. This is why most of the games from the golden age of videogames (80-90) was so great.

Yes, because a lot of people judge games on graphics.
Like the parents who buy the games for the kids.
Or the kids who don't know any better.


There are a few of the old games that kick the shit out of some of the newer games, but there are none that kick the shit out of all of todays games.

Absolutely, I was originally going to say that, and must've missed your post when I first read it :shifty:
I couldn't think how to put it...


Yeah, but considering that some people enjoy nes games better then new hi tech games, it shows you that a lot of today's games have a lot to learn. If they didn't they wouldn't be selling orginal nes/Snes games for GBA.
The key word there being some.
Not a majority.
That's a bad conclusion to make from that idea.
They're re-releasing games so that they can make more money. A quick port of a game is a lot quicker and cheaper to do than make a whole new game.
Nostaligics will look back and buy it so they can play it once again, and new gamers will buy it because they've heard it's so good.
Just because they're being re-released doesn't mean they're better.

[Bricktop]

Thats a very well thought out response Jonster and it does a good job of matching my argument, if not easily surpassing it (were you in debate club?). I don't want this thread to spin out of control into something else, so I am gonna 180 it back to before buzzkill's post. So what are your favorite old school games Jonster? You seem to have a lot of knowlege with games.

[Jonster]

Thats a very well thought out response Jonster and it does a good job of matching my argument, if not easily surpassing it (were you in debate club?). I don't want this thread to spin out of control into something else, so I am gonna 180 it back to before buzzkill's post. So what are your favorite old school games Jonster? You seem to have a lot of knowlege with games.
I was never in a debate club (we never had one, and I lack the confidence for public speaking unless I'm forced to), I'm just a natural. :$

Yeah, I forgot to put in a little apology for going majorly off topic.

I also forgot to include a couple of other arguments such as "We're more experienced gamers" and "There were no save points in the old days", but I won't go into that

I'll just stick with one's I found fun (there's a couple of other old school lists I could make ;))

Street Fighter 2 (Any version)
Gunstar Heroes
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Mario Paint - Fly Swatting was the best thing ever with a mouse.
Columns
Tetris
Marble Madness - I got so good I used to time trial myself at it
Sonic 2 - Same as Marble Madness - they were the only games my Grandma had to play when I visited
R-type on the gameboy
Tennis on the NES
Dr. Mario

There's way too many more I could list :-\

[The Mask]

the road rash series were hot. Something about racing bikes and beating the shit out of people never got old.

[MVP]

Just about every RPG on SNES and PSX
Metroid Series
NBA Jam: Tournament Edition
Sonic the Hedgehog Series
Super Street Fighter II
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Duck Hunt
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Series
Double Dragon
Contra Series

And The Mask hit it right on the dot with Road Rash.

[Tony Montana]

The best game I EVER remember playing before the great invention of the Playstation was a Sega MegaDrive game called "2 Crude Dudes". I find it apropriate to use this smilie along with that game: :cool:

[Bricktop]

The best game I EVER remember playing before the great invention of the Playstation was a Sega MegaDrive game called "2 Crude Dudes". I find it apropriate to use this smilie along with that game: :cool:

:yes:
That was one of the few games I was banned from playing as a kid. My parents didn't like the fact that one of the mini bosses was a hypodermic throwing midget santa. This one is up there with Narc in it's rudeness.

[Innovator]

Contra III
Legend of Zelda
Mario 3

[Bad Company]

new zealand story

*Cheap Pop*

[Head]

A really kickass NES game that I remember playing as a little kid was called "Caveman Games." Basically, it was like American Gladiators, with cavemen.

Gotta try to dig that up.

[Dazz]

the road rash series were hot. Something about racing bikes and beating the shit out of people never got old.

Yeah some guys at my college downloaded an emulator and play that in lessons/

[The One]

Super Mario Bros. 3
Mega Man 3
Final Fantasy 3
Wow I guess I like them 3's :D

And there is one more game I don't know how to spell right. My friend had it (and I never bought it :'( ) I think it was called "Contra" or something like that. It had two guys in a red army outfit and a blue army outfit...they fought a bunch of alien like creatures. When they jumped they did like 450 flips every time. It was a cool game. If anyone knows of what I am talking about please tell me the title. :)

[Azriel]

Yeah, sounds like Contra to me.

[The Ravishing One]

Mega MAN 2

I agree with you big guy :y:

[The Ravishing One]

Just bought Street Fighter 2 Turbo on eBay for like £3. Classic:y:

[Joe Kerr]

I liked X-men 2 clone wars for Sega Genesis. That kicks the shit out of any X-men game made for any of the big three.

[Bricktop]

A really kickass NES game that I remember playing as a little kid was called "Caveman Games." Basically, it was like American Gladiators, with cavemen.

Gotta try to dig that up.

my friends and I played this one a lot. My favorite was the fire starting contest. If you inhaled the smoke to much, you could get high and dizzy. :D

[My Final Heaven]

I just got Flashback: Quest for Identity for the genesis... really goofy cel-shaded kinda graphics, & if you touch the green smoke coming out of the ground you turn into a green skeleton... SKELETOR LIVES! lol

[CosaNostra]

Castlevania series. Played that for hours and hours.

[tucsonspeed6]

X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter.


Marry me! Marry me, and we'll play X-wing v. Tie Fighter all day long for our honeymoon. We'll adopt some stupid ethnic kid and teach him the ways of the Tie.........that is, if you like the tie. YOu better like the tie bitch!!! Get yo ass back in the kitchen and clean them dishes you x-wing flying trash! My dad was right about you trailer park rebels! Your only good for a weekend...Blow up your ships and ditch ya like I never met you! I want a freakin' divorse!

......And I'm gonna go for full custody of the ethnic kid!

[Wyatt]

Toejam and Earl
Duck Hunt
Double Dragon
Mortal Kombat 1-3
Super Mario 3
Sonic the Hedgehog Series
Streets of Rage
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

[LaoOu]

super smash bros and contra. yep, contra rox