WWE: Tables, Ladders & Chairs 2020

[GD]

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Tables, Ladders & Chairs Match for the Universal Championship
Universal Champion Roman Reigns (w/ Paul Heyman) vs Kevin Owens

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Tables, Ladders & Chairs Match for the WWE Championship
WWE Champion Drew McIntyre vs AJ Styles (w/ Amos)

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Firefly Inferno Match
"The Fiend" Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton

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Smackdown Women's Championship Match
Smackdown Women's Champion Sasha Banks vs Carmella

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RAW Tag Team Championship Match
RAW Tag Team Champions The New Day (Xavier Woods & Kofi Kingston)
vs
The Hurt Business (Cedric Alexander & Shelton Benjamin) (w/ MVP & United States Champion Bobby Lashley)

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WWE Women's Tag Team Championship Match
WWE Women's Tag Team Champions Shayna Baszler & Nia Jax vs RAW Women's Champion Asuka & ???

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[rez]

whoa...when did Xavier start sporting the Jheri Curl?

[xrodmuc316]

What is a Firefly Inferno Match?

Is it an actual inferno set the dude on fire match, a normal match but with fire like when Bray fought Kane at Summerslam one year, or is it a cinematic match?

WWE really lax when it comes to explaining these days.

[GD]

I am not expecting either of the heavyweight titles to change hands but almost certain they're going to be bangers.

[GD]

I doubt this will cross two pages.

[Sixx]

Is Reigns a heel now?

[GD]

Yes. For a while now. Paul Heyman is his manager and he's been the Universal Champion since Payback.

[RP]

I want Roman Reigns inside my butt.

[GD]

I want Roman Reigns inside my butt.

I'm proud of you son, no matter what.

[slik]

Asuka's partner will be


Charlotte Flair

[Mr. Nerfect]

I had no clue what the card for this was even going to be. I have no clue what the direction for WrestleMania is going to be. Roman Reigns is the best thing in wrestling right now though. Drew vs. AJ should be a good match. It’s just unbelievable how little the care factor is.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over the past day or so the creative team was directed to come up with ideas for a Miz cash in tonight on McIntyre and according to a source, “they all sucked”. The issues creatively aren’t exclusively on Vince.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1340780406279467016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

I had no clue what the card for this was even going to be. I have no clue what the direction for WrestleMania is going to be. Roman Reigns is the best thing in wrestling right now though. Drew vs. AJ should be a good match. It’s just unbelievable how little the care factor is.

This x 1000

[RP]

I had no clue what the card for this was even going to be. I have no clue what the direction for WrestleMania is going to be. Roman Reigns is the best thing in wrestling right now though. Drew vs. AJ should be a good match. It’s just unbelievable how little the care factor is.

Rich Swann is the best thing in wrestling right now.

[slik]

I had no clue what the card for this was even going to be. I have no clue what the direction for WrestleMania is going to be. Roman Reigns is the best thing in wrestling right now though. Drew vs. AJ should be a good match. It’s just unbelievable how little the care factor is.

I agree with Mr. Nerfect

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over the past day or so the creative team was directed to come up with ideas for a Miz cash in tonight on McIntyre and according to a source, “they all sucked”. The issues creatively aren’t exclusively on Vince.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1340780406279467016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Should have never taken the case off of Otis.

With him as the holder and Reigns as the champ, they had the ideal option of Otis cashes but in an honest way like Cena did. He loses via Reigns cheating in some fashion so Reigns keeps the title and gets some added heel heat while Otis gets some fan sympathy which then can be turned into a quick feud between the two. Could have done it for TLC and save the Owens feud for Reigns for the Rumble.

[RP]

Why not just have an unscheduled match for the case and give it to someone else?

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most/all WWE TV promos are just B-roll for PPV hype packages. Once you realise that &amp; how same-y the ring style is the more you learn how much watching week to week pointless<a href="https://t.co/AKwB0CrwaX">https://t.co/AKwB0CrwaX</a></p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1340813019060854784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Drew/AJ opening the show sure makes that Miz cash-in a sure thing

[Triple A]

Drew McIntyre is cool...

[Triple A]

cool gorilla press through a table spot

[Emperor Smeat]

Drew almost completely overshot that throw of Styles to the table outside.

[Emperor Smeat]

That chair shatter spot was pretty cool.

[RP]

I hope Toni Storm comes out and spreads her ass cheeks for Fignuts tonight.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE title TLC match was pretty good even if it did drag on a bit too long.

If Miz cashing in during the middle of the match and losing was the least worst option WWE had on the table, really want to know what the other ideas were considering the report of all them being terrible even by Vince's standards.

[slik]

lol at miz cashing in and losing

[slik]

Triple A's #1 crush, Carmella on tv now with a new stripper gimmick

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Miz should not be WWE Champion. Him losing to Drew in the middle of a bigger match is fine. Money in the Bank is a tired concept and could probably be put on ice.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Love that they do the special introductions for women’s matches to give it that big fight feel, but they still refuse to announce their weights because it’s impolite to talk about a woman’s weight.

[slik]

I wish they'd put all gimmicks on a break until a storyline dictates it

HIAC should be to end a blood feud, not because it's October

[Emperor Smeat]

Carmella's bubbly guy almost botched catching Carmella on the outside.

[Emperor Smeat]

Smackdown Women's title match was very good overall.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Have no interest in Carmella as a serious women’s wrestler.

[slik]

Disappointed so far....wanted Miz and Mella to win bc it would have made for some really entertaining angry tweets to read...going to need the 'E to belt KO now...

[slik]

feeling triggered by inane, robotic commentary, remembering why I have taken a break from watching WWE weekly tv...

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW Tag title match was pretty good.

Was hoping for New Day to retain since that would have meant they could have moved on to something new and be done with this Hurt Business feud that had already felt too played out.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE went overboard with those storyline injuries listed for Lana since she's only going to be out for a few weeks and not almost a whole year going by what WWE said.

:| Charlotte really was the big surprise for Asuka's partner.

Going to laugh if WWE really does give what should have been Lana's feud defining moment to Charlotte instead.

[Emperor Smeat]

Guess Charlotte didn't bother practicing on her moonsaults during her time away since she's still just as bad when it comes to hitting one accurately.

:lol: WWE really did give Charlotte Lana's big PPV moment and some gold the moment she came back.

[slik]

Clips of Roman make him good/interesting

not sure anything else tonight is going to get me back as a weekly viewer

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lana is not a very good wrestler. She shouldn’t be featured in a prominent spot over Charlotte.

Good to hear that Shelton is a champion again in 2020.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Charlie Haas doesn’t seem to be doing anywhere near as well. :(

[Triple A]

Stopped watching for an hour but skimming through now...

- Cedric Alexander is cool...

- Billie Kay is cool... so bad @ breaking up the IIconics

- Sami Zayn is cool

[slik]

lol at closing ppv with bray wyatt over roman reigns

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I do not think they needed 16 camera cuts while Uso and Owens were brawling</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1340842647674601473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Roman powerbombs KO on a ladder

Michael Cole "SPINEBUSTER THRU THE TABLE"

[Emperor Smeat]

Lana is not a very good wrestler. She shouldn’t be featured in a prominent spot over Charlotte.

Good to hear that Shelton is a champion again in 2020.

Then WWE should never have bothered to put Lana in a months long high profile feud with Nia that extended into a tag title feud if they didn't care to give it a satisfying conclusion.

They could have put Mandy in Charlotte's spot since she got involved in Women's Tag feud on RAW last week and save Lana's big PPV moment for the Rumble instead if the end goal was for her and Asuka to win the tag belts.

Instead WWE went right back to shoving Charlotte into the spotlight and the tired booking that comes with it.

[slik]

Roman powerbombs KO on a ladder

Michael Cole "SPINEBUSTER THRU THE TABLE"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Cole says: <br>Powerbomb = Spinebuster, Ladder = Table<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETLC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETLC</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xqqlx94zkC">pic.twitter.com/Xqqlx94zkC</a></p>&mdash; GIFSkull III (Backup) #WWETLC (@SkullGIF) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkullGIF/status/1340844792117305345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Owens got nailed in the nuts.

Universal title match was very good.

Between the two TLC matches, liked that one more than the WWE title one. Had the physicality and brutality that felt mostly missing in the WWE title match and also didn't feel like it was plodding along just to eat up a bunch of time.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wait ... the Firefly Inferno match isn't cinematic style?

Why have it last then if that's not the case.

[slik]

Orton wearing pants

[slik]

Bray walking slower to the ring than Taker

[Triple A]

Imagining WWE suddenly changing The Fiend's entrance theme to this

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[Triple A]

Thought "shut the fuck up" @ Tom Phillips' whispering "serious" commentary

[slik]

Bray Wyatt sucks

[Triple A]

This sucks...

[Triple A]

Why didn't the bell ring when he lit him on fire...

[Triple A]

hmm

[Savio]

Are there crowds again?

[Emperor Smeat]

Bray charging the ring while on fire and getting RKOed was really cool.

Had very low expectations for this match and ended up enjoying it. Just the right mix of ridiculousness and cool moments to not make it be just a big waste of time.

:lol: at that blatantly fake Fiend mannequin at the end for the fire spot.

TLC was pretty good overall. Don't really care for any of the stuff that came out from the RAW side of the show though.

[slik]

RIP Bray Wyatt

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Hahahaha! Yayyyyy!

I fucking hate Bray Wyatt’s gimmicks. The Fiend is the fucking worst so I’m glad if they get rid of him.

[Emperor Smeat]

Are there crowds again?

Only in a virtual sense via all those screens around ringside and the fake crowd noise from WWE video games that WWE pumps into the feed.

[slik]

Hahahaha! Yayyyyy!

I fucking hate Bray Wyatt’s gimmicks. The Fiend is the fucking worst so I’m glad if they get rid of him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Fiend is dead. Bray Wyatt should come back as the Fried. His new gimmick will be a mad chef. <a href="https://t.co/1NcZ4xlmio">pic.twitter.com/1NcZ4xlmio</a></p>&mdash; Nicholas Sankarsingh (@N_Sank) <a href="https://twitter.com/N_Sank/status/1340857249405743104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

Browns > WWE

Also, WWE just has murder now??? LOL

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Took a couple of snap shots .. ����█♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/thewadekeller?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thewadekeller</a> <a href="https://t.co/amUd22RmrU">pic.twitter.com/amUd22RmrU</a></p>&mdash;  (@TheSheikh) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSheikh/status/1340855565900275713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sixx]

Only read the results and watched some clips. Seems like a crappy show. At least Reigns' vest is no longer.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Took a couple of snap shots .. ����█♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/thewadekeller?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thewadekeller</a> <a href="https://t.co/amUd22RmrU">pic.twitter.com/amUd22RmrU</a></p>&mdash;  (@TheSheikh) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSheikh/status/1340855565900275713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMFAO!! Why would his coat sleeves be bleeding at all, let alone from fire?!?

Fire doesn't make skin bleed, and it certainly doesn't make a coat bleed either!

That's worse than Rey's fake eye. At least it is plausible that an eye could be removed. Leather coats don't bleed from fire :rofl:

[GD]

Only read the results and watched some clips. Seems like a crappy show. At least Reigns' vest is no longer.

That’s Noid’s gimmick. Do you have an opinion on Val Venis?

[Sixx]

That’s Noid’s gimmick. Do you have an opinion on Val Venis?

Which part is Noid's gimick? And no, not really. Why?

[GD]

Which part is Noid's gimick? And no, not really. Why?

Noid does not watch American professional wrestling because it "sucks". After each show, he'll skim through highlights on Reddit and post outlandish takes. While it was amusing at first, his shtick got stale quickly since it became evident that he shits on the product because he's miserable and out of touch.

At one point in his posting career, he had a weird infatuation with Val Venis as well as Funaki and Danny (or Dough) Basham. Typing essays on how they should main event Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship.

[poopfromweiner dude]

anyone watch the ppv?

[Volare]

Nope YouTubed the "highlights."

[Volare]

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[Volare]

Or....Bray's "soul" travels inside Alexa Bliss....and SHE beats Orton in a match somehow.

[Volare]

This breakdown/rant had my dying lol.


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[Gerard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Took a couple of snap shots .. ����█♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/thewadekeller?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thewadekeller</a> <a href="https://t.co/amUd22RmrU">pic.twitter.com/amUd22RmrU</a></p>&mdash;  (@TheSheikh) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSheikh/status/1340855565900275713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It really looks like the dummy in the second image was used for a test run and extinguished given it already looks burnt. Had they used a different angle not showing the mask it might have been a bit more convincing.

[xrodmuc316]

Or....Bray's "soul" travels inside Alexa Bliss....and SHE beats Orton in a match somehow.

That would be hot. Also, Alexa no selling the RKO would be the best!

[Bad News Gertner]

People are saying this was the best WWE PPV this year, minus the Main Event?

[Evil Vito]

Reigns vs. Owens cage match announced for the Christmas episode of SmackDown :lol:

[screech]

People are saying this was the best WWE PPV this year, minus the Main Event?

I enjoyed the show, but I wouldn't go that far.

[screech]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most/all WWE TV promos are just B-roll for PPV hype packages. Once you realise that &amp; how same-y the ring style is the more you learn how much watching week to week pointless<a href="https://t.co/AKwB0CrwaX">https://t.co/AKwB0CrwaX</a></p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1340813019060854784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I haven't watched RAW or SD in a few weeks. Watching the PPV made me not have to worry about catching up on them. Kevin Dunn gets a rare win.

[Sixx]

Noid does not watch American professional wrestling because it "sucks". After each show, he'll skim through highlights on Reddit and post outlandish takes. While it was amusing at first, his shtick got stale quickly since it became evident that he shits on the product because he's miserable and out of touch.

At one point in his posting career, he had a weird infatuation with Val Venis as well as Funaki and Danny (or Dough) Basham. Typing essays on how they should main event Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship.

I do not post "outlandish takes". I just read'em.

[Sixx]

As in the results.

[Mr. Nerfect]

People are saying this was the best WWE PPV this year, minus the Main Event?

That’s grim.


I’m at the stage where I can’t give a shit about Ladder Matches. They used to be my favourite. But I’ve just seen dudes rattle their spines off ladders so many times I do not give a shit.

[Emperor Smeat]

People are saying this was the best WWE PPV this year, minus the Main Event?

I probably wouldn't go that far for me personally but it easily was in the upper tier for WWE PPVs this year.

Part of it was due to none of the matches were atrocious in quality and the other part due to having very low expectations going in because of the build for the show was mostly forgettable or dull.

[xrodmuc316]

People are saying this was the best WWE PPV this year, minus the Main Event?

Nobody lost a match by falling in Orange Juice, so it has that going for it. :rofl:

[GD]

I do not post "outlandish takes". I just read'em.

As in the results.

Yes. That does separate the two of you. Also you're a far superior poster.