WWE 2K22 "IT HITS DIFFERENT"

[cnoslim]

😃😃😃 hopefully we still get the large rosters and hopefully 2k originals are more suited to legends and the future stars... rather than useless same characters with different names that you couldn't even change outfits.

Plus hopefully WWE UNIVERSE is finally a focal point of the game and made amazing.

[M-A-G]

Can 2K make a WWE game so glitchy that it actually goes full circle and ends up playable? STAY TUNED AND FIND OUT!!!

[Evil Vito]

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Cool @ GM Mode but it's undoubtedly gonna be a broken mess of a game as always

[M-A-G]

I just realized I haven't played a wrestling video game in almost 15 years.

[Fignuts]

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Cool @ GM Mode but it's undoubtedly gonna be a broken mess of a game as always

We'll see. Not saying it won't be, but they've had over two years to develop it this time around.

[drave]

I'll wait for the bargain bin. I've been punk'd too many times buying these and the last one I bought was solely for the Ric Flair collectors shit.

[Fignuts]

The fact that they delayed it so far actually makes me cautiously optimistic that they've learned their lesson, or at the very least have been forced to confront the quality issues. You know that any past year, a delay would have been unthinkable, and they'd just release it in whatever sorry state it was in.

[drave]

I can't anymore with those games. Year or not.....


Give me actual gameplay videos. Though the controller scheme was interesting with the "light/heavy" attacks and the "block/reversal" buttons.


Still..... maybe..... need MOAR INPUT Johnny 5 style

[Evil Vito]

The fact that they delayed it so far actually makes me cautiously optimistic that they've learned their lesson, or at the very least have been forced to confront the quality issues. You know that any past year, a delay would have been unthinkable, and they'd just release it in whatever sorry state it was in.

I would like to take the optimistic approach that they delayed the game so much to actual overhaul the gameplay, quality etc. But the pessimistic part of me thinks the delays were partly due to having to remove half the roster including some wrestlers who may have been a factor in career mode.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, I'm not optimistic enough to preorder or anything.

Even if the cuts are the reason for the delay, it still gives them extra time polish up other stuff too.

[M-A-G]

After twenty years the standard is still freaking No Mercy as far as control goes. It won't be enough to get me back into the thick of things but still.

[XL]

Mixed.

Not sure you need a GM and a Universe mode. Not overly taken with a Rey Mysterio Showcase (or any superstar-specific Showcase tbh). The presentation looks good but not a fan of using actual pictures of superstars as you can’t replicate that with a created superstar and with the rate of the roster turnover you’ll need to utilise created superstars to stay up to date.

[drave]

The SCSA showcase was amazing, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!
https://media1.giphy.com/media/5UtazS7U2kF12d133z/200.gif

[Evil Vito]

Well time to delay the game again lol

[GD]

WWE 2K19 has served me well. It sucks that the majority of the roster is now gone.

[M-A-G]

Well time to delay the game again lol

:lol:

[Kalyx triaD]

That AEW game is gonna murder this.

[drave]

I've not heard about either in a long while. But seriously, if the AEW game goes the way of the old N64 titles, it's gonna fucking slay.




While we're on the subject, a new version of those types of games would be the shit.




DIG DIG DIGGITY DIG DIGGITY DAWG!!!!!!








socko!

[DAMN iNATOR]

I've not heard about either in a long while. But seriously, if the AEW game goes the way of the old N64 titles, it's gonna fucking slay.




While we're on the subject, a new version of those types of games would be the shit.




DIG DIG DIGGITY DIG DIGGITY DAWG!!!!!!








socko!

(sinister laughter)

[M-A-G]

I've not heard about either in a long while. But seriously, if the AEW game goes the way of the old N64 titles, it's gonna fucking slay.




While we're on the subject, a new version of those types of games would be the shit.




DIG DIG DIGGITY DIG DIGGITY DAWG!!!!!!


socko!

I honestly think I spent more hours on No Mercy in college than I did doing actual coursework. :o

[drave]

My college bane was Diablo II.


Didn't help my roommate also played. We created a joint account and would sell the fuck outta items on ebay regularly. No botting either. We could have... but didn't.

[Tom Guycott]

I've not heard about either in a long while. But seriously, if the AEW game goes the way of the old N64 titles, it's gonna fucking slay.




While we're on the subject, a new version of those types of games would be the shit.




DIG DIG DIGGITY DIG DIGGITY DAWG!!!!!!








socko!

(sinister laughter)

UUHHH!!

[DAMN iNATOR]

🤣

[XL]

So Rey is the cover star. Not at all surprising given he’s the Showcase feature. Comes out in less than 60 days. Not sure I’m sold just yet.

[drave]

Nope, and they do this with every release. They'll hold off gameplay videos until post-release if they can......


It'd be a big mistake IMO. They have touted how they have a redesigned engine, gameplay and controls. They should be highlighting the fuck outta that with small snippets for the next 8 weeks.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah the latest trailer once again showed nothing.

Not spending a red cent on this franchise without gameplay footage and enough people saying it's not a broken mess.

[screech]

Played 2k20 for like an hour and it was such a broken pile of shit. Gonna need to see actual stuff from this one before I pull the trigger.

[drave]

I paid for the Ric Clair collectors edition for the cool shit that came with it.


Didn't even finish that showcase mode, as it was boring beyond belief.

[XL]

Watched a couple of videos from “the community” who all seem “pleasantly surprised” with the gameplay, so fingers crossed. I’m intrigued by the GM mode and I didn’t pick up 20 so it’s been a few years since I had a new wrestling game so I’m interested but yeah, if it’s as glitchy as 20 it’ll be another pass.

[Evil Vito]

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LMFAO "gameplay trailer". It's just canned cinematic shit again

This just screams "this game fucking sucks again and we know it"

[drave]

Riddle, Charlotte, Sasha all look like they weren't "scanned" and look terrible. Drew is borderline bad. Sasha's eyes specifically are just horrible.


10000000% not buying. They need to release a demo or free play weekend or some shit.

[DAMN iNATOR]

"IT HITS DIFFERENT - AND BY 'DIFFERENT' WE MEAN WORSE THAN WWE 2K20"

[Kalyx triaD]

That AEW game is gonna murder this.

[XL]

https://youtu.be/ajWOvMG1bsw

Has some actual gameplay footage.

[Sepholio]

That gameplay looks better than it has in like 10 years.

[Kalyx triaD]

They are still under the delusion that they are making a fighting game. But the reversal system could lead to good drama.

[Fignuts]

That gameplay looks better than it has in like 10 years.

The animation looks better, but you'd have to actually play it to see if all the hit detection and interactions are actually good now.

Not sure about the various reversal options. Could end up being overly complicated. Again gonna have to wait and see how it feels in hand.

[weather vane]

Why does hair look so fucking goofy?

[XL]

Lol they’re heavily talking up the hair physics.

[M-A-G]

"IT HITS DIFFERENT - AND BY 'DIFFERENT' WE MEAN WORSE THAN WWE 2K20"

"BY 'DIFFERENT' WE MEAN THE GAME LITERALLY JUST SLAPS YOU ACROSS THE FACE FOR BEING STUPID ENOUGH TO PAY MONEY FOR IT!"

[xrodmuc316]

Why is the ring so small? That will be annoying, no thanks.

[XL]

I think it looks fairly well proportioned. Could be the new angle?

I’m personally most intrigued the GM mode, so if that’s looking decent it might be a purchase for me.

[xrodmuc316]

I think it looks fairly well proportioned. Could be the new angle?

I’m personally most intrigued the GM mode, so if that’s looking decent it might be a purchase for me.

True, if that is a good in depth sim that would likely be the funnest part.

[Frank Drebin]

That AEW game is gonna murder this.

[XL]

Interested to see XBox One footage as I’m guessing what we’ve seen so far is XBOX Series X/PS5.

[drave]

Demo or I wait until it's less than $9.99

[Evil Vito]

Yeah the graphics are nice and all but I highly doubt it looks anywhere near that good on PS4. And obviously, graphics will only get you so far. Need more gameplay footage and need to see honest reviews from YouTube. Like Chris Denker pulled no punches about how much the last few 2k games sucked, if he plays this one and thinks it's good that means more to me than some random video 2k themselves filmed.

[XL]

Is that DenkOps? I’ve been watching some of his stuff and BDE. I think they’ve both played the game and seem to be fairly pleased with it.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Is that DenkOps? I’ve been watching some of his stuff and BDE. I think they’ve both played the game and seem to be fairly pleased with it.

Yes. AKA Chris Danger. He actually wrestles now in the new promotion newLEGACYinc created, DPW Fire. Amazing how far they've come from their humble roots.

[XL]

Full roster reveal expected Tuesday.

[GD]

Bill Goldberg, Booker T and Sean Waltman are all 88 in this game :roll:

[XL]

They seem to be doing this thing where they are drip-feeding the roster onto the website, some with ratings, some without. Is the rating reveal a big deal now? I know it can be with other properties, are they trying to mimic that or has it been a thing among the community?

GM deep dive tomorrow apparently. Looking forward to seeing what they got.

[XL]

So GM looks good BUT only seems to run for one season. Also, still doesn’t seem like they’ve done a full roster reveal.

[drave]

lol, like every stupid release.




Look, if they'd take the time to work an engine that can be for this game only (its insanely unique) and then have "roster updates" available as either:


A) A "live service" type thing. Live services game tend to be shit, but a streamlined roster update capability would be nice.


B) DLC - take money from this to keep supporting the devs who can refine the engine, making it better over time.




Playable demo or GTFO

[Fignuts]

They'd have to get rid of Community Creations for a live service model to be profitable. That would be a death sentence.

[drave]

Why tho?


They don't feel mutually exclusive. You still wouldn't get everyone with updates, and that'd still leave room, tons, for creations. Especially with that community being passionate, I can see them saying "lol in-game model sux0rz" and making their own, better, improved versions.

[XL]

Yeah there’s some middle ground. They could do aesthetic/gimmick updates for models already in the game. There’s still room for the community to be doing your AEW/NJPW/Impact/Legends stuff.

[Fignuts]

Gimmick and attire updates are already covered by CC. Why would anyone pay for official releases of that stuff when the created content looks just as good?

I just don't think there's enough money to be made, to match what they get from annual releases.

It's the same problem with sports titles. It should be a 20 dollar update every year. But as long as so many people are willing to pay $60, why would they?

[drave]

You know..... Call of Duty would like a word.

[Evil Vito]

Madden has been unplayable garbage for YEARS and people still fork over $60 a year plus way more for Madden Ultimate Team nonsense.

So EA stills sells copies and makes a profit despite themselves. Which they then use as ammo to get EA to extend the exclusivity deal another 5-10 years. And therefore 2k still can't get another crack at an NFL game when NFL 2k5 is still heavily praised all these years later.

It's infuriating. All I want is a good NFL game. Not lazy bullshit.

[XL]

Gimmick and attire updates are already covered by CC. Why would anyone pay for official releases of that stuff when the created content looks just as good?

I just don't think there's enough money to be made, to match what they get from annual releases.

It's the same problem with sports titles. It should be a 20 dollar update every year. But as long as so many people are willing to pay $60, why would they?

To a point. You’re always limited with hairstyles, no update to music, entrances, etc. I’m not even really saying in place of an annual release, I can see the business case for yearly releases.

[drave]

I never thought people would pay so much money for fucking SKINS in a first-person game.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Gimmick and attire updates are already covered by CC. Why would anyone pay for official releases of that stuff when the created content looks just as good?

I just don't think there's enough money to be made, to match what they get from annual releases.

It's the same problem with sports titles. It should be a 20 dollar update every year. But as long as so many people are willing to pay $60, why would they?

It's not like this sort of thing isn't already done either. This is a pretty neat scam.

[Fignuts]

I never thought people would pay so much money for fucking SKINS in a first-person game.

And if people could create and upload their own skins, they would not be able to get away with it.

We arrived at this juncture because at some point, the gaming community was brainwashed into thinking that charging for new content that's gameplay related is bad, and too easily abused, and that extra content should be cosmetic only.

Thus, $15 dollar skins. And now an entire generation of gamers has grown up thinking its normal and acceptable.

[drave]

You can do this in Roblox, for example. You can create and upload nearly anything you want. You can purchase content from specific creators, or do your own. It's worked well as they've went from 30 million to 3 billion in revenue generation in just 5 years.

[Fignuts]

You're comparing two very different games with very different levels of mass market appeal. And I'd wager that most of the money roblox makes, comes from purchasable skins and avatar parts, just like all live service games.

But skins serve a different purpose in wrestling games. In most games its just a way to make your character look different and stand out. But in wrestling games people create stuff to reflect the real life product. So any cosmetic updates they release will have already been made on CC. Will the official product look better? Sure. $15 better? Nope. That's why Parts and Move Craft were the last dlc released for fire pro, once all the licensed stuff was done.

You could reliably sell new moves, but I can't think of much else. Point is, their current model is just more profitable for them. Blame all the people still buying this crap for that.

[drave]

And the CC from WWE2kAnything is not even close to FirePro. I feel like those are two very different targeted audiences. Don't feel like everything would need to be $15 either, as lower pricing for various parts low for an easy buy-in and that's all it takes.



Guarandamntee you, they could do both, easily. It will appeal to the lowest common denominator and people will spend money on stupid shit, regardless.

[XL]

I’m surprised that more games don’t do it tbf. The game is already outdated and it’s not out for another month. King Nakamura (gimmick), WALTER (name), Mandy Rose (hair), Mansoor (hair), Xavier Woods (gimmick), Humberto (gimmick) just from what we’ve already seen. I’ve usually bought some of the DLC character packs in the past, all depends on what they are and what they cost. If they get the content:cost ratio right there’s money to be made. Even if they only support it up to 3 months after launch.

[drave]

And right now they're making a whole lotta $0.

[XL]

It’s very much trying to rinse a little bit more money out of an ever decreasing niche, which is pretty much the operating model of modern wrestling.

[Fignuts]

And the CC from WWE2kAnything is not even close to FirePro. I feel like those are two very different targeted audiences. Don't feel like everything would need to be $15 either, as lower pricing for various parts low for an easy buy-in and that's all it takes.



Guarandamntee you, they could do both, easily. It will appeal to the lowest common denominator and people will spend money on stupid shit, regardless.

It wouldn't need to be $15, but it's 2k. It absolutely would be $15.

[XL]

I get the argument that pretty much everything is available through creations; 2K19 still has some top notch versions of the new United States and Inconsequential Championships despite the game being over 3 year old, but they don’t fit the models as well as the game designers can make them.

You can usually get a good approximation of a costume, but things like hair are another thing altogether. Also I get that that’s part of the development model; make the last game outdated so that people feel the need to buy the lastest version.

It’ll be interesting to see what sales are like this time around. 2K20 was the first year since 1998 that I didn’t buy at least one new wrestling game. Going back to WCW vs nWo Revenge and WWF Warzone, through WrestleMania 2000 and No Mercy, and every instalment of the SmackDown/SmackDown vs Raw/WWE #/2K. The reviews and fan backlash surrounding 20 stopped me from buying even when it went dirt cheap.

You can read the skepticism from this thread and every YouTube video covering the game; people are hesitant. Personally I’ve preordered. I think the GM mode will be fun, and I can usually form the Universe mode into something resembling fun. Having not had a new wrestling game for 3 years and still getting some enjoyment from 2K19 I’m going for it, but there will be a good chunk of the audience that have moved on.

[Sepholio]

I'm getting this one but only because I haven't bought a wrestling game since like 2013 or 14. Need a new one to tinker with from time to time.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm getting this one but only because I haven't bought a wrestling game since like 2013 or 14. Need a new one to tinker with from time to time.

You'd be better off getting WWE 2K19 "IMHO".

[GD]

2K19 was so good.

[Evil Vito]

GM Mode

-Only 3 matches per show for TV, 4 for PPV, 5 for Mania
-Just a male and female title, no secondary titles (no IC/US etc)
-Singles and tag matches only, no triple threat or fatal four way

They had 2 years to make this mode and omitted basic features that were in GM Mode 15 fucking years ago.

But hey, now they can promote these obvious features as NEW AND EXCITING additions for WWE 2k23!

[Fignuts]

Literally all they had to do was take Universe Mode and add GM elements to it. Ridiculous.

[XL]

GM Mode

-Only 3 matches per show for TV, 4 for PPV, 5 for Mania
-Just a male and female title, no secondary titles (no IC/US etc)
-Singles and tag matches only, no triple threat or fatal four way

They had 2 years to make this mode and omitted basic features that were in GM Mode 15 fucking years ago.

But hey, now they can promote these obvious features as NEW AND EXCITING additions for WWE 2k23!

Oh man that’s disappointing.

I can understand why though. It looks like they’ve added some elements of strategy to it with having to pair styles together to get the best outcome, that would be made difficult with multi-person matches. Or is that just the starting position? I know things like gimmick matches cost more so you have to earn/unlock them.

[Sepholio]

They also had something called Superstar Mode under the Universe mode where you can basically lock in as one character you want to focus on and just run all the stuff around that one person. Everything else will progress on it's own based on whatever decision you make for that person.

[Sepholio]

I saw it described somewhere as basically being a more in-depth version of the old story mode from Here Comes The Pain.

[Evil Vito]

Could be cool in theory, but would require Universe to not be a broken mess. Lots of luck with that.

[screech]

I'm into the idea of Superstar Mode. That GM mode seems like it would get old really quickly, though.

I'm not totally sold on this. Hoping for a demo or a free weekend or something so I can try it out first.

[XL]

I can see why they’ve done what they’ve done with MyGM; Universe is the sandbox mode, there would be too much overlap. Might have been a way to integrate the two though. Like play universe in “GM mode” which puts restrictions on budget/roster/etc. As it is I don’t really like the “start in a school gym” bit, that works for MyRise but not so much here.

[Evil Vito]

Machine Gun Kelly confirmed as DLC lmao

Hey, they might get a lot of sales from people who really want to beat the shit out of him as WALTER

[drave]

:|

[Sepholio]

Hey lets get a few more celebrities and turn this bitch into the spiritual successor to the Def Jam games.

[Evil Vito]

Full game roster announced:

Active Roster

AJ Styles
Akira Tozawa
Alexa Bliss
Angel Garza
Angelo Dawkins
Apollo Crews
Asuka
Austin Theory
Bayley
Becky Lynch
Bianca Belair
Big E
Bobby Lashley
Brock Lesnar
Cameron Grimes
Candice LeRae
Carmella
Cedric Alexander
Chad Gable
Charlotte Flair
Dakota Kai
Damian Priest
Dana Brooke
Dexter Lumis
Dolph Ziggler
Drew Gulak
Drew McIntyre
Edge
Elias
Erik
Fabian Aichner
Finn Balor
Finn Balor (Demon)
Happy Corbin
Humberto Carrillo
Io Shirai
Ivar
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Jinder Mahal
Joaquin Wilde
John Cena
Jordan Devlin
Kay Lee Ray
Kevin Owens
King Nakamura
Kofi Kingston
Kushida
Lacey Evans
Liv Morgan
MACE
Mandy Rose
Mansoor
Marcel Barthel
Maryse
The Miz
Montez Ford
Mustafa Ali
MVP
Naomi
Natalya
Nikki A.S.H
Otis
Pete Dunne
R-Truth
Randy Orton
Raquel Gonzalez
Raul Mendoza
Rey Mysterio
Rhea Ripley
Ricochet
Riddle
Robert Roode
Roderick Strong
Roman Reigns
Sami Zayn
Santos Escobar
Sasha Banks
Seth Rollins
Shayna Baszler
Sheamus
Shelton Benjamin
Shotzi
Sonya Deville
T-BAR
Tamina
Titus O’Neil
Tommaso Ciampa
Trent Seven
Tyler Bate
WALTER
Xavier Woods

Legends

Andre The Giant
Batista
Beth Phoenix
Big Boss Man
Booker T
Bret Hart
Chyna
Diesel
Faarooq
Goldberg
Hulk Hogan
Jake Roberts
Jerry Lawler
Jim Neidhart
Kane
Kevin Nash
Mr. McMahon
Papa Shango
Randy Savage
Razor Ramon
Ric Flair
Road Dogg
The Rock
Roddy Piper
Scott Hall
Shane McMahon
Shawn Michaels
Stephanie McMahon
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Ted DiBiase
Triple H
Trish Stratus
Ultimate Warrior
Undertaker
Undertaker ‘02
X-Pac

Future Endeavors

Alexander Wolfe
Ariya Daivari
Billie Kay
Braun Strowman
The Brian Kendrick
Cesaro
Danny Burch
Ember Moon
Fandango
Gran Metalik
Isaiah “Swerve” Scott
Jeff Hardy
John Morrison
Johnny Gargano
Kalisto
Karrion Kross
Keith Lee
Kyle O’Reilly
Lana
Lince Dorado
Mia Yim
Mickie James
Murphy
Nia Jax
Oney Lorcan
Peyton Royce
RECKONING
Samoa Joe
SLAPJACK
Tegan Nox
Timothy Thatcher
Toni Storm
Tucker
Tyler Breeze
William Regal

[Evil Vito]

So the roster was more than likely finalized around WrestleMania last year, which is in line with when they normally do it. But the game just got delayed longer than usual.

The only people they've seemingly removed are Bray Wyatt and anyone that signed with AEW by last fall (Bryan, Cole, Fish, Ruby, Andrade, Black, Nese)

[GD]

Why do they keep using this image? It's so obviously photoshopped.

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[GD]

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[Evil Vito]

WWE might be moving their games from 2k to EA.

[Fignuts]

From the outhouse to the port-a-potty

[GD]

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[GD]

Watching Woods play the game and referee Chioda's face is blurred out in 2K Showcase.

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[RP]

It hits different

[Gerard]

They've removed advanced entrance creation because it was causing bugs and crashes, not like they've had 2x the amount of time to get things like that fixed....

[Evil Vito]

Side by side comparison of every wrestler from 2k20 to now. (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/gallery-heres-how-every-wwe-2k22-wrestler-looks-compared-to-2k20/)

[Fignuts]

Most are an improvement, but big fucking oof at some of the women.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah a lot of the women leave something to be desired. Carmella looks especially bad.

The dead eyes haven't gone away either, although it's not the only game I've seen where the eyes look kinda fucked up. MLB The Show is that way too.

[M-A-G]

Why do most of them look baked as all hell?

[Evil Vito]

I'd say with their eyes that most of them just look sad. Which I suppose checks out if you believe the stories about the general morale levels of the roster nowadays.

[drave]

ahahahahahahahhaa, fuck this shitty looking game.

[Evil Vito]

I've heard enough reviewers I trust say it actually plays far better than its predecessor, that the controls take some getting used to but it makes matches feel way more natural and fluid.

Still sounds like the game lacks depth though, Universe Mode untouched etc. So I suspect we might hear about people being bored within a month.

[drave]

$9.99

[drave]

2 years and that?


Scan everyone or scan no one. It makes it look half-assed every single release.

[Optimus Bone 69]

pretty decent for a drunken laugh with the mates round but tell me if I'm just too drunk but I can't find HHH?

[drave]

he had heart issues and missed his booked dates for getting into the game. He's really aged into a B+ player

[Fignuts]

General consensus so far is that this is a definite improvement over 2k20. Still a lot of things they can improve on, but a step in the right direction.

New combat system specifically is being praised as being much more engaging.

[Evil Vito]

Full DLC packs:

Banzai Pack*
Release Date: April 26
Yokozuna
Umaga
Rikishi
Omos
Kacy Catanzaro

Most Wanted Pack*
Release Date: May 17
Cactus Jack
The Boogeyman
Vader
Ilja Dragunov
Indi Hartwell

Stand Back Pack*
Release Date: June 7
Hurricane Helms
Stacy Keibler
A-Kid
Wes Lee
Nash Carter

Clowning Around Pack*
Release Date: June 28
Doink the Clown
Ronda Rousey
The British Bulldog
Mr. T
Doudrop
Rick Boogs

The Whole Dam Pack*
Release Date: July 19
Rob Van Dam
Logan Paul
Machine Gun Kelly
LA Knight
Xia Li
Commander Azeez
Sarray

---

LMAO. They used to always have 1 or 2 current roster packs, 1 or 2 legends packs, etc. Then they realized some people only care about one or the other and now they've combined the packs to try to get people to buy 'em all.

[Fignuts]

a lot of those people were regulars on the roster a few years ago.

That said, if ever there was a selling point for a game, it would be the ability to beat the shit out of Logan Paul. They really should have led with that.

[Fignuts]

Was hoping for an NXT UK pack. No Meiko for me I guess.

[drave]

Look at that, they already made the jump to EA.


Each pack will be $24.99 per pack. Then, you can also buy the season pass for an additional $19.99 every 90 days to unlock exclusive create-a-wrestler cosmetics!!!


Just wait for the GOTY Most Stupendous 2k Wrasslin Edition for just $299.95, complete with a 1-week trial of the Pwweacock Network!

[drave]

And yes, I see the release dates.


We've not ran into the post-release delays yet.

[screech]

I get why they do it (because people will buy those packs) but damn I miss the days of unlocking rasslers in-game.

[Sepholio]

I get why they do it (because people will buy those packs) but damn I miss the days of unlocking rasslers in-game.

I think there should be a sweet spot in the middle. Sure DLC is fine but throw me some secret unlockable characters in there too man because I miss that as well.

[Evil Vito]

Supposedly there are characters in Career mode that aren’t in the actual game but they’re different versions of people already in the game. Like you face Dominik Dijakovic in NXT. Like, if they bothered to have a model and tron for him why not throw him in as a playable character? Instead of just having shitty ass TBAR.

[screech]

I think there should be a sweet spot in the middle. Sure DLC is fine but throw me some secret unlockable characters in there too man because I miss that as well.

In 2k18 you had to "buy" certain people with in-game tokens you earned by winning matches. That was kinda neat. I don't think there were nearly as many people behind the paywall.

[XL]

Mixed.

Not sure you need a GM and a Universe mode. Not overly taken with a Rey Mysterio Showcase (or any superstar-specific Showcase tbh). The presentation looks good but not a fan of using actual pictures of superstars as you can’t replicate that with a created superstar and with the rate of the roster turnover you’ll need to utilise created superstars to stay up to date.

Oh shit! You can do custom renders. That’s a nice touch.

[Fignuts]

I think there should be a sweet spot in the middle. Sure DLC is fine but throw me some secret unlockable characters in there too man because I miss that as well.

They have that. There are characters you unlock with in game currency, as well as some you unlock from the Mysterio showcase.

[GD]

It's kinda funny that Kacy Catanzaro is a part of the Banzai DLC.

[Evil Vito]

As well she should be. She and Omos are long lost members of the Anoa'i family.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm seeing all the positive press for the game and I wish it success, but I dunno, I can't help but to feel relieved that I went with my gut and pre-ordered that other 2K game due out this month, Tiny Tina'sWonderlands.

[Evil Vito]

Amusing reading stories of people who popped the game in for the first time, didn’t bother with the tutorial, and instead set up a squash to get used to the controls like Brock vs Ariya Daivari and end up getting their ass kicked.

[Fignuts]

Well, I wanted to wait it out but enough friends have bought it and enjoyed it where I just decided what the fuck.

Gotta say, I dont regret my purchase. It definitely feels more fun to play, though there are still improvements that could be made. The rey showcase is kind of neat. Its almost like interactive documentary. Throughout the match it transitions seanlessly between gameplay and real footage while rey narrates. Havent tried the other modes yet.

[Fignuts]

Amusing reading stories of people who popped the game in for the first time, didn’t bother with the tutorial, and instead set up a squash to get used to the controls like Brock vs Ariya Daivari and end up getting their ass kicked.

Big mistake. The tutorial is great. Drew Gulak narrates it. He chastises you for doing high flying moves and even breaks out a graph chart at one point.

[Danny Electric]

Glad I went for the season pass version with all that DLC.

[Evil Vito]

Gotta say, I dont regret my purchase. It definitely feels more fun to play, though there are still improvements that could be made. The rey showcase is kind of neat. Its almost like interactive documentary. Throughout the match it transitions seanlessly between gameplay and real footage while rey narrates. Havent tried the other modes yet.

I didn't bother much with Showcase in the last game I played, which I guess would be 3 or 4 years ago now....the way they've done it now sounds a lot cooler.

[Evil Vito]

Big mistake. The tutorial is great. Drew Gulak narrates it. He chastises you for doing high flying moves and even breaks out a graph chart at one point.

Hahaha, that is kickass. 205 Live was honestly a really fun watch the first year, year and a half or so it was on. Drew Gulak's PowerPoint presentation gimmick definitely popped me.

[M-A-G]

Big mistake. The tutorial is great. Drew Gulak narrates it. He chastises you for doing high flying moves and even breaks out a graph chart at one point.

"Oh, look at this GRAAAAPH....!"

[XL]

Started a MyGM game. Not sure about it yet. Seems the aim of the game is to book the same match repeatedly until it hits a Level 4 rivalry. So pretty accurate to real life. A lot of my favourites are “Specialist” wrestlers who don’t seem to achieve a decent match rating with anyone you pair them with as they sit outside of the brawler vs. fighter/cruiser vs. giant paradigm.

MyFaction is different to what I expected. Could be quite interesting in terms of having matches with guys I wouldn’t necessarily play as/against.

Showcase I’m not really taken with. For me there’s too much “cinematics” and real life footage. Don’t feel like I’m getting to play enough of the match myself.

[drave]

Its MyGM, but WWE's way.

[screech]

I turned heel somehow in MyRise and I'm in a feud with Elias. We're both getting booed. This tracks.

[Evil Vito]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN_6amKWUAgHq7z?format=jpg&name=small

jesus....Defract is incredible

[XL]

Yeah there are some real good CAWs out there already. Downloaded a great Malakai Black and Sting.

[XL]

Complete a full season of MyGM. I really got into it in the end, but it is limited. I get the paradigm they've created with the different classes but it can be a bit stifling. Being able to run Specialist vs. Specialist matches that garner a decent match rating would be a start, otherwise what's the point of having the role? Being limited in not really being able to book Cruiser vs. Cruiser felt limiting too, I'm sure Mysterio vs. Santos Escobar could have been a decent bout, or Ricochet vs. Mysterio for that matter.

Nearly dropped a bollock booking to Mania; all other PPVs have a 4 match card so I built up 4 feuds to be paid off only to discover Mania is a 5 match card. Luckily managed to throw Mysterio vs. WALTER in a TLC Match on the card and got a decent rating from it.

I might come back around to it in time, I'm yet to start Universe or MyRise yet (always been put off by having to build a CAW from scratch) so will probably give them a play through before going back to MyGM.

[screech]

MyRise is fun so far. Lots of paths to take via different people offering challenges.

Also I love that you can go through Universe mode as just one person. Started a run through NXT with WALTER on stream yesterday.

[screech]

Two things I'm wondering: I don't know how to earn more tokens (or whatever they are) to unlock/purchase rasslers and arenas. Maybe it's a grind on purpose.

And I definitely downloaded a bunch of arenas that don't show up anywhere for me to play in. V confused.

[XL]

Are you sure they’re “arenas” and not “shows”?

[XL]

And yeah, I seem to have earned enough to unlock about 6 superstars but earning more seems a little harder now, albeit I’ve not done anything with universe or MyRise and barely anything with MyRise.

[XL]

MyRise is fun so far. Lots of paths to take via different people offering challenges.

Also I love that you can go through Universe mode as just one person. Started a run through NXT with WALTER on stream yesterday.

How is Superstar Mode? How does it differ?

[XL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN_6amKWUAgHq7z?format=jpg&name=small

jesus....Defract is incredible

This is amazing but he’s used parts from Vince and Nash who I’ve not unlocked yet. Can’t see what he’s used from Nash but it looks like he’s used Vince’s elbow pad. Surely those parts can’t have been that important?

[screech]

Are you sure they’re “arenas” and not “shows”?

I will check on Monday but I thought they were arenas. Maybe I did it wrong.

[screech]

How is Superstar Mode? How does it differ?

You don't have to watch any other matches. It simulates the show before and after your thing. There's also a "curation menu" that pops up where you can do things like challenge for a title, disband your team, and have a certain kind of match.

Funny thing about that is that it doesn't replace your scheduled match. So I won the NXT title in the opener, then had another singles match on the show.

[screech]

Just thought about this: I wonder if I'll have to do that my faction thing to earn more tokens. Ugh. No interest in that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Despite this still not being what I want in a wrestling game, this is easily the best combat system they ever made.

[XL]

Hit a couple of bugs so far;

1) seems to happen fairly often when you choose to play a match in MyGM the game freezes and restarts
2) weird bug in Create A Championship where if you use the default material the belt/part appears completely black

[Danny Electric]

Two things I'm wondering: I don't know how to earn more tokens (or whatever they are) to unlock/purchase rasslers and arenas. Maybe it's a grind on purpose.

And I definitely downloaded a bunch of arenas that don't show up anywhere for me to play in. V confused.

Think I read somewhere on myrise that some of the arenas you unlock can’t be used in other modes on the game.

Seems to be a theme going through. Certain characters on my faction that don’t appear on other modes and same with myrise ( DD , Gargano with an older entrance etc).

[screech]

I downloaded them in community creations but when I go to select an arena, nothing shows under the custom tab.

[Evil Vito]

As far as I can tell, unlocking wrestlers is definitely a grind. A few editions ago when I last played, you could at least do stuff like Rumbles and earn some serious points each time since they’d always end up getting 5 star ratings.

Now it sounds like you barely earn fuck all with matches, like they’re basically just compelling you to spend 5 bucks to unlock everything.

[screech]

Yeah it seems like you have to hit each one of your moves in every [singles] match to get 5 stars and even that doesn't get a lot of tokens.

I could also be doing something wrong, I don't know. It was definitely easier to earn these points in 2k18.

[screech]

I also haven't done anything in showcase, MyGM, or faction yet though.

[screech]

I downloaded them in community creations but when I go to select an arena, nothing shows under the custom tab.

Looked this up and learned that you have to create a show using the custom arena before you can use them other places.

[Evil Vito]

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[drave]

hahah! oh man, they have gotta patch that one, if it can be reproduced.

[Danny Electric]

The crowd singing they have put into Nakamuras entrance is horrendous

[Evil Vito]

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ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS THROW HIM OFF THE DAMN CELL

[M-A-G]

Wait, is the cell red in real life now?

[Evil Vito]

Yes and it's absolutely horrendous. Let's just make it as hard to see anything as possible.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTMxOWY5MTItYmYyMi00OTBkLWJhNTQtMGFmYWMwY2M3YTlhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODQ0MTc2Mjg@._V1_.jpg

https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/horrible-red-cage.jpg

AND they also used red lighting one year, because why the fuck not?

https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/seth-rollins-hell-in-a-cell_0.jpg?fit=1200%2C675

[drave]

lol, that last pic




"Where are they now?"

[M-A-G]

Yes and it's absolutely horrendous. Let's just make it as hard to see anything as possible.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTMxOWY5MTItYmYyMi00OTBkLWJhNTQtMGFmYWMwY2M3YTlhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODQ0MTc2Mjg@._V1_.jpg



Good fucking Lzzy, MY EYES!!!

[XL]

The grey cell is in the game too though.

[XL]

Looks they released a pretty big patch.

[screech]

Did MyGM for the first time. Completed the first PPV and I don't know that I made any real headway in the rankings. There's a lot to track, it seems.

[XL]

Yeah it’s fairly in-depth.

Some tips that might be useful:

Fill your rosters with “pairs”, by which I mean if you have a face cruiser, you need a heel giant to pair them with. I think I often doubled up so that I had 2 cruisers and 2 giants on whatever face/heel side, e.g. Mysterio (Face Cruiser), Escobar (Heel Crusier), Keith Lee (Face Giant), WALTER (Heel Giant). That let’s you do Mysterio vs. WALTER and Escobar vs. Lee, and Mysterio & Lee vs. Escobar & WALTER. Then turn Escobar face and Lee heel and you can do Mysterio vs Lee, Escobar vs WALTER, and Mysterio & Escobar vs Lee & WALTER. That’s 6 feuds from 4 guys without the game getting “bored” of the feud.

Variety is key. You need a mix of genders, classes, and match types to make an interesting card. Doing this will elevate your rating.

Be cautious of running tag matches to try and progress singles feuds as this doesn't work, it just starts a new tag feud.

Buy Spa cards when you get the chance as these help with stamina.

On that note, promos use less stamina than matches and can be used to start/elevate feuds. There is no stamina hit for being the one that is “called out” so if you’ve got 2 guys in a feud and one is real low on stamina, use the other guy to cut the promo. I’ve not tried getting a feud to level 4 through promos alone, might try that next time.

You need to be building 4 feuds at a time really (except for Mania where you get a 5 match card), aiming for them to land on PPV at a level 4 rivalry, this will end the feud and you’ll get a boost to the rating. You can end feuds on TV but you don’t get the bonus. It can pay off to end Level 4 rivalries on TV to get a good rating for that show however. I’ve not tried this but in theory, if you have a big enough roster, you could be working on 8 rivalries to pay off at alternate PPVs in order to conserve stamina, but I think managing the popularity of at least 16 stars could be tricky.

You can “rest” a feud for a week or so which keeps it at the level it’s at. So if you’ve got the feud to Level 4 too early you can rest both guys/the feud for a week, this helps with stamina/injuries.

On popularity, the more “over” your stars are the better rating they will get, so pairing 2 popular stars gets the best payoff. A quick boost to popularity can be achieved by putting the title on someone. For example, I needed to feud my womens champion with someone new but the only person that matched from a class pov was very low on popularity. Setup a title match, played through and made the less popular heel the champ. This has a hit on your now former champ but they should still be at like 60+ popularity and your new champ is now boosted up so you have 2 60+ stars in a rivalry rather than a 70+ vs a 40+.

Keep an eye on those popularity levels. I brought in a legend to feud with my champ, they became champ themselves then dropped the title before their contract ended but then I noticed they were by far my most popular star in the division so I ended up keeping them around.

Money doesn’t matter. Spend wisely so that you can run consistently good shows but the aim of the game is to get fans, not make money.

Only do commissioner tasks if it’s worth it. If you need or want the card then do it but if it ruins your plans, don’t.

Remember the promises you’ve made. On a few occasions I made promises to talent and then forgot to deliver. This affects how happy they are and can lead to them leaving the brand. Use the “notes” section to double check your promises every week.

[Evil Vito]

Apparently the Starrcade 1996 arena is in the game because Rey vs. Jushin Liger was meant to be in the game for Showcase mode, and then Liger had to get pulled out for whatever reason.

They at least left Liger's mask in the creation suite for easy CAW making but damn.

[Fignuts]

The company that owns the license to the character has been stingy on giving it out in the past.

[rez]

tempted to get this...which system ya'll got it on?

[XL]

Big update to GM Mode. Added tag titles, extra match slots, etc.

[Danny Electric]

They keep adding in all these secret things that will prob end up on myfaction.

New DLC was decent, Umaga is fun to play as.

[Kalyx triaD]

I really hate the run mechanic. Been bad since HCTP. Smackdown and KYR had it right and just needed adjustments in momentum.

[screech]

Finally won the ratings war in MyGM. Only one week so I've a ways to go for the achievement but it's progress!

Got v close to the 5-star match too.

[XL]

MyGM is an extra level of tough if you try and book Tag titles for men and women, you need a big roster to help manage stamina and have enough parts to play with. It’s also tricky as you can only build tag rivalries via matches as you can’t do call outs, and run-ins cause a 1v1 rivalry instead of a tag one. Of course, you don’t need to have tag titles.

And tbf, I do tend to “handicap” myself by trying to have a realistic roster (I.E. only pick up legends that could plausibly still appear).

[screech]

lol this mode is hard enough without an extra element.

[XL]

FFS.

Don’t know what they’ve done with the latest patch but every time I try to load my MyGM save 24 weeks in the game crashes. Started a new one…same thing.

[screech]

That's dumb as fuck

[screech]

I've been getting a graphics card error a lot. Happened every ~25 minutes - mid-match, on a menu, loading after I finished a match (meaning I had to redothe match) - whenever. Didn't happen yesterday so maybe I'm good now?

[XL]

From what I can tell from a quick YouTube search (2K support barely useful), it happens when you book back-to-back Call Out promos with the same characters on the same show (E.g. Brock calls out Reigns, then Reigns calls out Brock).

Started again, again.

[XL]

Just played through a full year without the game crashing so I think the above is likely to be the issue.

Won the season finishing on 3.5m fans. Managed to book 8 4/4 rivalries heading into Mania :lol: having experienced a show where the AI blocked me from using 2 of my guys/feuds.

Had to cut Goldberg vs Miz, Lesnar vs. Rollins, and Shotzi/Morgan vs. Tamina/Gonzalez for the Womens Tag titles. Also should have had Big E/Kofi vs. WALTER/Aichner for the tag titles but I accidentally paid that off at Fastlane.

Managed to veto one of their champs, their most popular star, and a random other. Also had power cards for Hell In A Cell, Extreme Rules, and TLC matches. It all came together in a nice crescendo.

Women’s Championship Extreme Rules
Beth Phoenix vs. Tegan Nox (5 stars)

Hell In A Cell
Reigns vs. HBK (4 stars)

Tables Match
Orton vs. Lashley (4 stars)

Hell in A Cell Match
“King of Kings” HHH vs. “Prince” Balor (5 stars)

Universal Championship TLC Match
McIntyre vs. Priest (5 stars)

Shame you can’t carry on past Mania.

[screech]

Nice! I think I'll be able to pay off a level 4 feud at the next PPV. Hoping that will get me the 5-star match achievement.

[screech]

Also I'd be super into that card in real life

[XL]

I could have done with a Night 2!

Raw’s card ended up being really poor with their main event being the highest rated match at 3.5 stars. They still gained 200,000+ fans though.

[screech]

I found that the crew and arena bonuses really help because I put on kind of a lackluster show and still won by like 500 fans.

[XL]

Also I'd be super into that card in real life

Yeah I amassed a prettty decent roster tbf. Couldn’t even find a spot for Cena, brought Trish Status in but couldn’t fit her in anywhere. I think I was originally trying to get to Phoenix vs. Charlotte at Mania but the feud just wouldn’t start and I already had Phonenix/Nox at Level 3 as it didn’t pay off at Fastlane for some reason.

I’d previously run DX vs The Shield in the tag division. That was fun.

[Evil Vito]

Supposedly there are characters in Career mode that aren’t in the actual game but they’re different versions of people already in the game. Like you face Dominik Dijakovic in NXT. Like, if they bothered to have a model and tron for him why not throw him in as a playable character? Instead of just having shitty ass TBAR.

Apparently the latest patch has now added these characters as playable in the game:

Alexa Bliss '20
Dominik Dijakovic
King Booker
King Corbin
Nikki Cross
Shawn Michaels '18
Shinsuke Nakamura

Quite an oversight to not have them as playable to begin with but better late than never I suppose.

[screech]

I saw that King Booker was available now. Didn't have time to look for any others.

The game did run much slower than usual, though :n:

[XL]

Yeah they’re all in there. Suffering from a lot of crashes at the minute. Crashed trying to download an image from community creations, crashed trying to create a belt, crashed trying to assign a picture to an alt attire. Frustrating.

[screech]

Didn't have any crashes today (only played for like a half hour) but movements were either really slow or guys stopped moving entirely during matches.

[drave]

Almost bought this, as it was "on sale".


It was only $5 off - no bueno.

[Danny Electric]

New DLC is live too. Played as Boogeyman last night which was fun. Supposedly the commentary’s been updated to include the new DLC people.

[Helmsphere]

What's funny is that this games roster is like much more accurate five months after it came out

[Kalyx triaD]

Bunch of secret mechanics are bitter sweet to find out. Gonna look up the new manager controls.