TPWW’S TOP TEN: TALKERS. FINAL LIST REVEALED!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Alright folks we haven’t had a good game thread on here since the Better Wrestler series was discontinued (thanks a lot Destor). So what we’re gonna do here is every week we’re going to have a wrestling specific category and I’m going to ask for your top 10 names for that category. You’ll give me your Top Ten nominations unranked and in no particular order. We’ll compile the lists and come up with “TPWW’S TOP TEN” for the week. One nomination equals one point. Top Ten nominees win.


Our inaugural question: Who are the Top Ten Talkers in wrestling history?

[Jordan]

Chris Jericho
Ric Flair
Dusty Rhodes
Mick Foley
Steve Austin
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Bobby Heenan
Shawn Michaels
Paul Heyman

I did a quick dive of the mind and that's who I've come up with. I left off a few like Savage, Funk and Jake just because I have preferences for others.

[Bad News Gertner]

Flair
Hogan
Dusty
Terry Funk
Piper
Austin
Bockwinkel
Muraco
Heenan
Foley

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If they exist in wrestling, they are eligible to be nominated

[RP]

Piper
Flair
Stone Cold
Rock
Macho Man
Shane Douglas
Dusty Rhodes
Jeff Jarrett
Bray Wyatt
Ted Dibiase

[Ruien]

The Rock
Kurt Angle
Flair
HHH
Bray Wyatt
Stone Cold
Kurt Angle
Kurt Angle
Kurt Angle
Piper
Kurt Angle

[Triple A]

I liked these guys, that I can remember!

Stone Cold
Ric Flair
Roddy Piper
The Rock
Randy Savage
Vince McMahon
Chris Jericho
Bobby Heenan
Scott Steiner
Kurt Angle

[Lock Jaw]

Chris Jericho
Christian
Ric Flair
The Rock
Eddie Guerrero
Kurt Angle
Macho Man
JBL
Ultimate Warrior
Charlotte Flair (token female inclusion)

[xrodmuc316]

In no particular order

John Cena
Kevin Owens
CM Punk
Chris Jericho
Stone Cold
Mick Foley
Miz
Rock
Kurt Angle
Ric Flair

[RP]

In no particular order

John Cena
Kevin Owens
CM Punk
Chris Jericho
Stone Cold
Mick Foley
Miz
Rock
Kurt Angle
Ric Flair

That list is mostly shit, but I may give Miz some credit. The Miz actually has been incredible on the mic. It's hard to deny that. Punk was ok. Jericho was ok. Angle was great but tbh, I would actually put Miz over them. He's actually been consistently great in a era that is consistently terrible. LOL

[Destor]

i love better wrestler but booking it effectively requires REALLY knowin the boards taste. takes a ton of effort to not have 50 million guys in the hall...gotta protect the title or it doesnt mean anything...just look at better tag team...trash...

[Destor]

1. Ric Flair
2. Vince McMahon
3. Mic Foley
4. Jim Cornette
5. Bobby Heenan
6. Steve Austin
7. Dusty Rhodes
8. Jerry Lawler
9. Terry Funk
10. Jesse Ventura

[Fignuts]

Jake Roberts
William Regal
Ric Flair
Paul Heyman
Jim Cornette
Bobby Heenan
John Cena
Ernie Ladd
Mick Foley
Jumpin' Jeff Farmer

[TNARICK1]

TNARICK

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Vince Russo
Mike Sanders
Glen Gilberti
Booker T
Jeff Jarrett
The Cat
Sonny Siaki
Mark Madden
Positively Kanyon
Raven

[Rammsteinmad]

CM Punk
Chris Jericho
The Rock
John Cena
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman
Kurt Angle
Steve Austin
Sting
Ric Flair

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Rock
Steve Austin
Terry Funk
Dusty Rhodes
Ric Flair
Jerry Lawler
Jim Cornette
Bobby Heenan
Roddy Piper
Vince McMahon

[James Steele]

The Rock
Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Chris Jericho
CM Punk
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman
Vince McMahon
Ric Flair
Triple H

[#1-norm-fan]

Jim Cornette
Steve Austin
Ric Flair
Dusty Rhodes
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Roddy Piper
Bobby Heenan
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman

[Evil Vito]

Bobby Heenan
Chris Jericho
Dusty Rhodes
Jake Roberts
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman
Randy Savage
Ric Flair
The Rock
Roddy Piper

[Bad News Gertner]

I'm probably gonna change my mind 20 times

[Seanny One Ball]

The Rock
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Mankind
Ric Flair
Kurt Angle
Bobby Heenan
Jerry Lawler
David Schultz
Vince McMahon
Macho Man Randy Savage

Fuck Hulk

[Bad News Gertner]

Interesting to see Randy Savage on here so much. I've never thought of Randy as a "promo" guy.

[Fignuts]

I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.

[Fignuts]

Interesting to see Randy Savage on here so much. I've never thought of Randy as a "promo" guy.

I thought about it, until I remembered his wrestlemania 9 commentary.

YEAH DO THE THING

[Evil Vito]

My list is in alphabetical order but Savage was my 10th one on and I was considering like 5 other guys in that spot. Tough call.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.

I struggled for a second between him and Heyman for the last spot.

[Bad News Gertner]

I thought about it, until I remembered his wrestlemania 9 commentary.

YEAH DO THE THING

It's weird that so many wrestlers who were great at promos completely suck in commentary.

[Bad News Gertner]

Randy Savage on promos is just a slightly more coherent Ultimate Warrior

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.

I thought Jim Cornette would be appearing on more’s list, considering he actually drew money with his mouth, and even currently hosts podcasts that, in a week, are probably listened to by as many people as watch AEW.

Chris Jericho is the name popping up that surprises me. Like, he’s not bad. It’s not that he’s bad or anything, but top ten ALL TIME?

[Lock Jaw]

Randy Savave on promos is just a slightly more coherent Ultimate Warrior

I included both Savage and Warrior on my list because... I can actually remember them. Others might be better talkers like Jake and Piper, but... overall I don't really remember what they have said... 1

[Bad News Gertner]

I loved Ultimate Warrior and thinks he gets far too much crap

[Seanny One Ball]

Randy Savave on promos is just a slightly more coherent Ultimate Warrior


Same energy but far greater content and delivery.

There’s a promo Macho Man does where he says he has a new pair of pink boots on and he’s going to kick out somebody’s Cadillac window.

Great shit man.

[Seanny One Ball]

Rowdy Roddy Piper is so overrated it’s not even remotely understandable to me.

I really don’t get the love.

[Seanny One Ball]

Ah fuck I just realised David Schultz should have been in my list.

Gonna swap someone out.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.



He bored me as a kid with all of that archaic language he used.
He sounded like a religious education teacher.

[Fignuts]

Rowdy Roddy Piper is so overrated it’s not even remotely understandable to me.

I really don’t get the love.

He has a unique style, but most of his promos don't actually say anything and come off as a bunch of rambling nonsense to me.

[OssMan]

R truth
The Rock

[#1-norm-fan]

Ah fuck I just realised David Schultz should have been in my list.

Gonna swap someone out.

That’s an open-handed swap.

[Bad News Gertner]

Rowdy Roddy Piper is so overrated it’s not even remotely understandable to me.

I really don’t get the love.

Piper pre WM3 is fantastic.

Piper post WM3 is one of the most unwatchable wrestlers around besides the Bret feud in 92.

[Jordan]

Jake was great for sure but his best promos are all similar, even if they are great the lack of diversity keeps him off my list.

Piper said something that confused me as kid so much that it still plagues my mind to this day. "AND IM A LESBIAN". was Piper confused? I am.

Vince probably should have made my list but it's okay to leave him off, he has delivered a lot of bad segments in his time.

Macho and Warrior are in a similar position for me, awesome but incoherent.

Jericho is a shoe in, he constantly gets better and is still topping himself in AEW. His face turn promo earlier this year had me marking out like it was 98.

[Jordan]

I almost out Cena on my list because he out promoed The Rock in their program but he has too many cookie cutter be promos for my taste.

[Blonde Moment]

The Rock
Bobby Heenan
Jim Cornette
Paul Heyman
Ric Flair
Jerry Lawler
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Jesse Ventura
Hulk Hogan
The Miz/Jake The Snake

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wanted to include Heyman and Ventura, just didn’t have room. I wish I had a better gauge on Bockwinkel too.

Lists fucking suck.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You know what would be better? A Top Talkers series of threads where a top talker gets discussed, their stuff shared, business metrics can be discussed, and people can share their thoughts and memories of the talker.

[Bad News Gertner]

I wanted to include Heyman and Ventura, just didn’t have room. I wish I had a better gauge on Bockwinkel too.

Lists fucking suck.

Soooo good

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[Destor]

You know what would be better? A Top Talkers series of threads where a top talker gets discussed, their stuff shared, business metrics can be discussed, and people can share their thoughts and memories of the talker.
i like this. or just a deep dive thread going into what made X great. wrestler spot light

[Destor]

or even in some cases why wasnt X more successful. what held so and so back

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It sucks that you’re not allowed to make those threads so all you can do is complain


We need true freedom on the forums

[Destor]

but i dont wanna

[DAMN iNATOR]

For those including Hogan, allow me to retort:

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[Supreme Olajuwon]

If anyone has an topics they would like to see utilized in the TPWW TOP TEN feel free to shoot me a PM or leave a comment in a rep (positive or negative, dealer’s choice, chief).

[weather vane]

You said 15 yeah?

Ric Flair
Jimmy Garvin
The Rock
Steve Austin
Bobby Heenan
Dusty Rhodes
Jake Roberts
Paul Heyman
Shane Douglas
Randy Savage
Tully Blanchard
Hulk Hogan
Arn Anderson
Jesse Ventura
Chris Jericho

[Mr. Nerfect]

It sucks that you’re not allowed to make those threads so all you can do is complain


We need true freedom on the forums

Of course I can, but I don’t want to, and totally reserve the right to say that someone should.

[fundiddle]

king
jr
mean gene
roddy piper
corny
jesse ventura
gorilla monsoon
bobby heenan
the fink
todd pettengill

[Blonde Moment]

gorilla monsoon was an excellent choice. The banter between him and Heenan was the best part of the shows

[Seanny One Ball]

Gorilla Monsoon was pretty bad...

“Oh PLEASE!”

As entertaining as a Bundy match and actually more predictable.

[fundiddle]

WILL YOU STOP!?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Gorilla is more of a beloved presence than an all-time great talker.

[Seanny One Ball]

That’s a nicer way to say it

[Big Vic]

Probably not top 10 worthy but I remember thinking Wade Barrett was going places when he first debuted on Raw.

[weather vane]

Well I got bad news for ya..

[Sepholio]

No particular order

The brain
Terry funk
Heyman
Ric flair
Ventura
Mean gene
Bray
Stone cold
The rock
Jericho

[#1-norm-fan]

I think Bray Wyatt, purely as a talker and especially for his era, is fucking incredible. I just couldn’t consider him for the top 10 because the lack of longevity and the lack of impact that the era has afforded his promos.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<s>Ladies and</s> Gentlemen, we've tallied up your votes to determine who you, the TPWW masses, believe are the best talkers in wrestling history. 199 votes were cast and a whopping 57 different people were nominated, speaking to rich history of trunk wearing talkers. All were men and all speak English. Go figure. We've compiled the top ten vote getters and we're ready to reveal who are TPWW'S TOP TEN TALKERS!

10. Coming in at Number 10, it's... a tie! Which technically means these two men are actually coming in together at number 9! Which is a great way to start a top 10 list!

But I'm not worried about it, because this tie is an All-American tie. First, we have the American Dream, it's

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DUSTY RHODES!

Followed by a true American hero, Your Olympic Hero, it's

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KURT ANGLE!

7.Alright, now that we've got the ties out of the way, coming in at number 7 is... another tie. God dammit. Coming in at number 7 is a guy who claims he's the best in the world at what he does, but according to you guys he's only tied for 7th best at it, it's

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CHRIS JERICHO!

And also coming in at number 7, the man who as soon as you know the answer, he changes the question, which I believe is cheating, it's

https://hollywoodhegemony.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/rowdy-roddy-piper.jpg?w=1400&h=9999
"ROWDY" RODDY PIPER!

6. Ladies and Gentlemen, our number 6 entry is our 1st manager to appear on our list, and also our 1st advocate, it's

https://media.bleacherreport.com/w_800,h_533,c_fill/br-img-images/001/903/414/Paul-Heyman_crop_north.jpg
PAUL HEYMAN!


5.Our number 5 entry on the list is a man of many faces, and all of those faces can cut one hell of a promo, it's

https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Mick-Foley-2-6687.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=644%2C362
MICK FOLEY!


4. Our number 4 entry always wowed us on the mic, and whether as a manager or commentator, in WWF or WCW, he always managed to weasel his way into our hearts, it's

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BOBBY "THE BRAIN" HEENAN!


3.Coming in at number 3, it's a man so popular, so captivating, so charming, so authentic, so beloved that you forget that he created a catchphrase that single handedly ruined everybody else's promos for the next 20 years, it's

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"STONE COLD" STEVE AUSTIN!

2. We're down to our final 2, and after reading this list you probably have a good idea of who the top 2 talkers in wrestling are. But you're not sure of the order. Who do you think is at number 2? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!. Coming in at number 2 is

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THE ROCK!

1. And finally, our number 1 wrestling talker of all time as chosen by you, TPWW, is of course

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"NATURE BOY" RIC FLAIR!




Thank you to everyone who voted. Did we get it right? Did we get it wrong? Let us know.

A new topic will be posted shortly.

[Bad News Gertner]

Wow, Hogan didn't make it

And Dusty should be higher.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hogan was 15th

[Fignuts]

Rock should be lower. He's great, no doubt, but a lot of his promos were just repeating the same catch phrases. Feel like there were other people who were better at grabbing people's emotions and selling the audience on whatever feud they were in.

[Seanny One Ball]

Where’s Jumpin’ Jeff Farmer at?!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pretty shit list, to be honest. TPWW sucks when it comes to having good opinions. There are better promos who have legitimately made money that have been left off this list. How the fuck is Jericho better than Dusty Rhodes?

[#1-norm-fan]

Yup

[#1-norm-fan]

If people are being sticklers for the wording though, Rock could definitely be considered one of the greatest talkers but not nearly top 10 at cutting a promo.

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty shit list, to be honest. TPWW sucks when it comes to having good opinions. There are better promos who have legitimately made money that have been left off this list. How the fuck is Jericho better than Dusty Rhodes?

Because this isn't an "objective" list, and most people here probably haven't seen too much Dusty?

[#1-norm-fan]

We kinda take “Austin 3:16” as just a simple catchphrase that caught on nowadays but saying “Talk about your Psalms, talk about your John 3:16. Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass.” to a guy with a “reborn Christian” gimmick is so fucking good. What other catchphrase can be pinpointed to a specific promo? And then he was able to evolve from that. I couldn’t have been mad if Austin had won this.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

For those of you wondering, 60% of Noid’s nominations made the final Top Ten which he calls a “pretty shit list”

Noid doesn’t hate wrestling, he just hates himself.

[Lock Jaw]

Don't hate the player... hate the game!

[Evil Vito]

For those of you wondering, 60% of Noid’s nominations made the final Top Ten which he calls a “pretty shit list”

Noid doesn’t hate wrestling, he just hates himself.

LMAO I’d bet $20 he wouldn’t have cared about Jericho’s placement on the list if he was never involved in AEW

[Destor]

tpww got #1 right so im good with this list