All Elite Wrestling Presents: Wednesday Night Dynamite, 17 Nov 21, Cowboy Poop

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Bad News Gertner]

Briscoes are debuting tonight

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Gerald might show up but Jack’s been dead for 11 years brother

[Evil Vito]

Ishii on Dynamite makes me TOUGH AND HARD

[Bad News Gertner]

Gerald might show up but Jack’s been dead for 11 years brother

Gerald and Wes

Duh.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wes Brisco makes me want Less Brisco

Woof

[ClockShot]

Haven't watched NJPW in a while.

Gonna be nice to hear that siren on Ishii's theme.

[slik]

I missed the first 3 minutes

[slik]

I've never seen the Briscoes rassle...former WrestleCrap forums moderator turned ROH broadcaster Ian Riccabonni said they were 'changed men' on Twitter and LGBTQ+ supportive...so I assume they did something at sometime 'not great' in that regard...

[Evil Vito]

A rare AEW show opening with a segment instead of a match, but this is warranted. Hangman :love:

[rez]

lol @ Cowboy shit posters

[ClockShot]

Leave WWE out of this, Brian.

[slik]

Good line about it taking less than 30 minutes to beat Omega by Hangman

[slik]

Bryan about to call this crowd 'Fickle'

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Too many “you see”s and “here’s the thing”s in this promo

Way too WWE type promo. Don’t like it.

[Evil Vito]

OF COURSE VIRGINIA BOOS HARD WORK :lol:

[Evil Vito]

Best part is Bryan can be a heel for this feud and then go back to being a respected face right after.

The crowd doesn’t think Bryan is scum, just scum compared to Hangman

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don’t like this at all. Why is Danielson cocky heel all of a sudden. Makes no sense.

[slik]

Great segment

Hangman is already the most interesting AEW World Champ

[slik]

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[Evil Vito]

“Uno shit” chant :lol:

[Evil Vito]

I HAVE TIL 5

[slik]

Danielson should indicate he has gone 'full heel' via wearing a cape to the ring

[ClockShot]

Was the Triangle even fully locked before the bell rang?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Danielson working matches as a heel is fantastic. But I do not get the immediate character shift. Didn’t make sense.

Hope this leads to Danielson/Stu though

[Triple A]

Interesting @ Bryan turning heel... was thinking that they need to be careful to not have the crowd "turn on Bryan" like they did with Cody since he's gonna be feuding with a beloved face... I guess it makes sense to just turn him heel, at least for this feud... and also since Omega is prob gonna be out for a while

[xrodmuc316]

LOL turning Danielson heel, Tony Khan booker of the year.

[ClockShot]

Danielson got a Dark Order hit list.

I like it.

[Evil Vito]

I don’t like this at all. Why is Danielson cocky heel all of a sudden. Makes no sense.

Felt like shades of ROH Danielson to me. Supremely confident, and even as a face he’d try to get under his opponents’ skin in any way he can.

Wouldn’t be shocked if he HUGS IT OUT with Hangman once Hangman beats him clean.

[Triple A]

Danielson working matches as a heel is fantastic. But I do not get the immediate character shift. Didn’t make sense.

Yeah kinda wish there was more of a "reason"... playing "mind games" with Hangman makes sense, but it is weird for him to randomly attack the crowd too

[Evil Vito]

Bryan vs Cabana: The Wrestling Road Diaries Powers EXPLODE

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Excited for Danielson against Stu and Silver eventually

Will be a blast

[slik]

Danielson should indicate he has gone 'full heel' via wearing a cape to the ring

He should also hire Eddie Kingston as his ward, Edward Kingston Esquire...

[Triple A]

Wonder if the "heel turn" is a recent idea change since Moxley and Omega are gonna be out and Moxley was prob gonna turn heel

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wonder if the "heel turn" is a recent idea change since Moxley and Omega are gonna be out and Moxley was prob gonna turn heel

Definitely seems like this was gonna be Moxley’s role after he murdered 10 in the tournament.

[Triple A]

MJF drinking a water bottle filled with yellow liquid... shouldn't have used that in the promo......

[rez]

I'm behind...this feels forced between Hangman and Danielson.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh hey I member 2.0

[Evil Vito]

Wonder if this Bryan/Colt match will lead to a flood of people watching the original Wrestling Road Diaries, which Colt released free when the pandemic started.

Prepare for some outrage when people hear Bryan casually call Sal Rinauro a fag

[slik]

lol "I'm going to catering"

[ClockShot]

Someone wake up Ishii. Takes him about a couple minutes to get going once the music hits.

[slik]

MJF drinking a water bottle filled with yellow liquid... shouldn't have used that in the promo......

I was 'distracted' as well...MJF and his bottle of urine

[Evil Vito]

ISHIIIIIIII

[ClockShot]

Wait?

No music for Ishii?!

[slik]

If Seth82 was alive could see him being 'excited' at the scenario of MJF urinating on him

[slik]

RIP Seth82

[slik]

Ishi walks like a video game character

[slik]

@Triple A

Did RP ever post again after he posted he was never posting again

[slik]

2.0 so good

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[slik]

Depressed at thought of OC/Matt Hardy feud continuing...please no...

[Triple A]

@Triple A

Did RP ever post again after he posted he was never posting again

Haven't seen any!! But he has quit forever a few times before...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Props to the Blade for rejecting the consensus to go full bald.

Celebrate your horseshoe, king.

[Triple A]

10 year old kid dressed as Orange Cassidy chanting "you fucked up" :smh:

[ClockShot]

Vertical Drop Brainbuster, please.

[Evil Vito]

During that whole Ishii corner spot, Orange Cassidy was watching it from the apron and had a smile that looked like he was seemingly unable to contain his markout.

[Triple A]

Ishii seems cool...

[ClockShot]

Arrigato, Ishii-san

[ClockShot]

Hope Tomohiro sticks around for a bit like Suzuki.

[slik]

Ishi's in ring style fits in AEW much better than other people who've stopped by from New Japan for a visit IMO

[Evil Vito]

That match was tremendous fun.

[Triple A]

Cash Wheeler not good on the mic.....

[slik]

Is Cash Wheeler growing a mullet or a skullet

[Evil Vito]

Jamie Hayter so hot

[Evil Vito]

I like the little detail of Jamie Hayter never going along with the “D-M-D” finger point.

[slik]

Vickie Guerrero should be wearing a cape as a heel manager...

[slik]

nyla flattened that chair

[Triple A]

idk @ this match running through a commercial break and going through the top of the hour... seems like a low point in the show......

[slik]

agreed @ triple a

[slik]

wish instead of this match Britt Baker was making fun of Tony Schiavone or something

[Jordan]

Nyla Rose almost got a few fingers inside of Shida's butt!!!

[Evil Vito]

Still bums me out that during Shida’s year-long title reign she got exactly one match in front of a full crowd and it was the night she dropped the belt. I hope she gets another title run someday.

[Triple A]

weird @ still going with the Cody and Black feud...

[Jordan]

I really want to see Malakai vs Punk

[slik]

What if Malakai Black instead began a long feud with Matt Hardy

[Sepholio]

oh shit

[Evil Vito]

Ohhhh shit here come the promos

[Evil Vito]

Oh how I have longed for this angle since Phil came to AEW.

[Sepholio]

This crowd is about to get AEW pulled off the air by the FCC

[Triple A]

alright...

[Sepholio]

So punk gets mad because Eddie Kingston interrupts him...then CM Punk goes out and interrupts MJF...

ok.

Weird time for Punk to stop delivering his weekly promo.

[Malfeitor]

The ultimate cock tease.

Stoked.

[slik]

I am all for Punk/MJF

[Jordan]

Remember when JR said Darby was one of the four pillows of AEW.

LOL @ that Gunn saying "I wike tuwtewls"

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He does look like the I Like Turtles kid

[Supreme Olajuwon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEcSw4gXMAYdxaL?format=jpg&name=360x360

Spot on reference

[slik]

Lio Rush phicc

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lio Rush will probably always look like a small child who snuck into a wrestling show but I dig his white power ranger get up

[slik]

oh this match should be fun

[Jordan]

Oh man I LOVE Leo and Dante together

[rez]

@Triple A

Did RP ever post again after he posted he was never posting again

https://www.journalreview.com/uploads/medium/20210909-133346-R.P.-Home-Harverst.jpg

That business rebranded its businesses and now everytime I drive by it I think about that stupid idiot

[slik]

Just realized one day we will see Lio Rush and Rey Fenix in the same match and all the insane, inhuman stuff they will do when that happens

[Triple A]

damn Dante Martin is crazy,

[Evil Vito]

I absolutely love Lio and Dante together

[Evil Vito]

Also lmao @ Lio mouthing “I’ve got 3 kids” to Caster’s virgin line

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lio has a great ass

[Jordan]

What a great match

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lio Rush is ridiculously fast. Fun match.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Jungle boy with an good promo wow. Christian really rubbing off on him.

[Jordan]

Damn they have been going real light with Rampage.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Rampage has a great card

[Jordan]

I wouldn't be upset at all of Jay Lethal wins the TNT championship tonight.

[slik]

I'm not really sure I've seen Jay Lethal wrestle before so this will be the first time seeing what he can do

[slik]

Lio has a great ass

He really does

[weather vane]

Hot opening segment. So hot.

[Triple A]

I'm not really sure I've seen Jay Letha wrestle before so this will be the first time seeing what he can do

Same... seems mad generic on the mic!!!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lethal is smaller than Sammy?! That’s a shock to me

[slik]

iginfest marking out over billy gunn vs darby prob

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just realized this could be a Jericho free Dynamite

Has that ever happened

[Triple A]

I'm not really sure I've seen Jay Lethal wrestle before so this will be the first time seeing what he can do

Same... seems mad generic on the mic!!!

Seems good so far...

[Triple A]

Sammy rules

[slik]

was gail kimothy in roh...she could come in as Jay Lethal's manager with a cape if so...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Be cool if they do an Roh invasion angle

[Jordan]

Seems good so far...

He does have a very "rasslin" style promo but I think he does it well and is engaging. Also his wrestling is as good as anyone.

[Triple A]

Good match so far... making me gasp a lot

[Jordan]

Be cool if they do an Roh invasion angle

Yeah that would be good. Briscoes... They gotta show up at some point.

[slik]

Sammy selling those ribs like he was splashed by 1986 King Kong Bundy, A+

[Triple A]

sweet match... Lethal seems great, very impressive

[Triple A]

Just realized this could be a Jericho free Dynamite

Has that ever happened

lol

[slik]

Good match

[Jordan]

That was a hell of a match! I really wanted Lethal to win and the booking with the rib injury really worked on me. So good. Lethal is a great signing.

Ah Jericho! Lol

[Jordan]

I didn't see the first 45 minutes so I am watching that now.

[Jordan]

I feel like Jay Lethal is a better signing than say Bobby Fish, who has been great so far in AEW I'm just saying Lethal has.main event talent and I'm not sure that's the best use for Fish.

Lethal can have a great match with almost anyone in AEW I bet. Sammy made him look like a star selling his moves so well. That was a really memorable match to me.

[Evil Vito]

Enjoyed the main. Great episode.

[Jordan]

LOL wow Adam Cole looks so much like HBK, crazy. Love that we are already pushing toward Kenny and Cole after that little hint.

[slik]

I feel like Jay Lethal is a better signing than say Bobby Fish.

100% agree

[ron the dial]

really fun show. great opening segment. set a much better tone for the show to me than the usual cold open match. abrupt heel turn for danielson, but i've always preferred his heel work. that main event was sick as f*ck.

[Jordan]

LOL when Danielson dropped WrestleMania

[ron the dial]

also getting to see danielson vs colt live in chicago 14 years after the last time? hell yeah. the whole "dark order hit list" deal is nice. especially vs stu like supreme said.

[Jordan]

I've never seen the Briscoes rassle...former WrestleCrap forums moderator turned ROH broadcaster Ian Riccabonni said they were 'changed men' on Twitter and LGBTQ+ supportive...so I assume they did something at sometime 'not great' in that regard...

Yeah they said some homophobic slurs at some point in a promo or interview.

[Jordan]

Great segment

Hangman is already the most interesting AEW World Champ

You can tell just watching him walk to the ring with the Belt. His promo is perfect too. He would've been so over in WCW.

[Evil Vito]

In addition to Cabana on the next Dynamite...the two Dynamites after that are in Georgia (Alan Angels) and Long Island (Reynolds and Silver). So the Dark Order hit list angle can be even better.

[rez]

Cody just needs fuck off to behind the scenes for a while. I'd be fine with him doing occasional commentary

[rez]

He can be TK's mouth piece. just no more Nightmare Family, PLEASE

[rez]

A lot of good matches and some decent segments but the flow sucks....especially going into Rampage for the crowd.

Rampage needs a live/tv if it's gonna continue to exist.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If they’re putting Danielson against members of The Dark Order, their ratings are going to be in dire trouble.

[erickman]

I'm not really sure I've seen Jay Lethal wrestle before so this will be the first time seeing what he can do

damn i wish i would have gotten you or trip a to watch tna or roh years ago, you missed some good wrestling better then that wwe crap for the last 15 years.

[Sting Fan]

I didn’t dig the Dark order into of Hangman, wanted that natural pop when his music hit but overall great segment. Danielson played it perfect, crowd played there part and Hangman is lovable.

Kenny, Cole and the Bucks was perfectly played.

Fucking loved Darbys acceptance of the Billy Gunn match, so dry!

Dante Martin continues to be a freak! He and Lio Rush are so fun, don’t feel like I have ever really seen Lio work before my goodness he’s got amazing movement. Might be the most fluid I have ever seen in a ring.

Punks MJF troll was excellent as well.

Legit laughed out loud at JR Little commentary when Ishii did his little hulk up bit in the corner.

[Sting Fan]

I’m not really that into womens wrestling but I do enjoy the way the TBS tournament is playing out over such a long period of time. Really gives it time to breath and be it’s own thing.

I was always a fan of when KOTRhad a long run in with qualifiers and such so glad to see AEW using the tournament structure well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just reading the results shows how this show is riddled with holes:

* Danielson vs. Evil Uno? One guy’s got a chance to bring in new fans, so you position him against the Losers Club and have him decimate them? Smart.

* You’ve got Tomohiro Ishii (a better Hall of Fame candidate than Randy Orton, according to Dave Meltzer) show up in this promotion. Isn’t he supposed to be a legit bad-ass? Let’s have him team with a joke wrestler against a retired gimmick and his jobbers. Smart.

* We’ve just signed Jay Lethal. You know, we could really use some black athletes that have spent some time in the business and can carry higher up spots. How should we debut him? He can lose to a Sammy Guevara with injured ribs. Care about this guy yet? Smart.

[#1-norm-fan]

* Danielson vs. Evil Uno? One guy’s got a chance to bring in new fans, so you position him against the Losers Club and have him decimate them? Smart.

So he's decimating some jobbers. This bothers you as an old school wrestling fan? Would you prefer constant PPV-caliber matches up and down the card every week, Russo?

[Evil Vito]

I won't hear a bad word about Evil Uno.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So he's decimating some jobbers. This bothers you as an old school wrestling fan? Would you prefer constant PPV-caliber matches up and down the card every week, Russo?

You’ve really jumped the shark as a poster. Was it that time I called you on saying “AEW should hire great talent, no matter where they come from”? Because your brain has melted whenever it comes to engaging with a point I’m actually making.

Unless you are just being an obtuse dick on purpose, in which case you have dropped out of a tier of poster worth conversing with.

No, I’m not saying that decimating jobbers is inherently a bad thing. The Dark Order are not good jobbers anyway. I’m talking about promoting unexciting filler between a babyface with drawing potential against a bunch of unbelievable novelty acts that are presented as cult heroes since Brodie Lee died.

If you can’t tell the difference, then oh well. That’s on you.

[drave]

also feel like if he were in the main event picture, it would be one of the following:


* another WWE guy in the title picture **harumph**
* there's no one good enough to be in the title picture **harumph**
* hes in the WRONG title picture *harumphphphphphphph*




What is a jobber squash if not unexciting filler? Or should jobber squashes lead to something more meaningful?

[Sting Fan]

Brian vs. Uno was perfect. He beat up the jobber people actually care about a little and got some heat to support his quasi heel/tweener challenge of the baby face champ.

Job done, solid booking.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They gave Uno just enough shine to not look like a complete loser. Plus he’s a tag specialist. Going against a wrecking machine. Completely outclassed and overmatched but didn’t look hapless I’m getting his ass handed to him.

Noid just likes to bitch. He’s gotta be suffering through cognitive dissonance every time Cornette sends praise towards AEW, which has been happening more and more the past 6 months.

[Mr. Nerfect]

also feel like if he were in the main event picture, it would be one of the following:


* another WWE guy in the title picture **harumph**
* there's no one good enough to be in the title picture **harumph**
* hes in the WRONG title picture *harumphphphphphphph*




What is a jobber squash if not unexciting filler? Or should jobber squashes lead to something more meaningful?

Stop leaping to irrational generalizations because you can’t address the actual points. I’ve been 100% on-board with the company signing Bryan and I’ve been vocal about the main event at Full Gear rightfully being him taking the belt off Omega. Your feelings are wrong.

Squash matches are supposed to make a wrestler look good. No one looks good beating up The Dark Order. They are not credible enough, they are not aesthetically impressive enough, and it’s counterproductive to your end goal (getting someone over). They suck and anyone being half-way honest will admit that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

P.S. They didn’t even do 1 million viewers off Page’s title win and the end to this epic two year long story.

[#1-norm-fan]

Squash matches are supposed to make a wrestler look good. No one looks good beating up The Dark Order. They are not credible enough, they are not aesthetically impressive enough, and it’s counterproductive to your end goal (getting someone over)

As opposed to jobbers in squash matches of the good old days who were all very credible and aesthetically impressive...

[#1-norm-fan]

Come see the Mulkey's next week on the TPWW Thursday Night Watch-along!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmaooo jobbers off my childhood literally looked like my school bus driver or the guy taking my dads order at McDonald’s.

[Lock Jaw]

Giving the Dynamite after the PPV the opportunity to hook me.

Starting now.

[ron the dial]

oh boy...

[Lock Jaw]

Wow, terrible audio mixing right off the top...

[Lock Jaw]

Omega with a weird rehearsed sounding promo....

[Lock Jaw]

Opening up with the world champ, good sign in maybe not making their world champ an afterthought. Involving the Dark Order is intolerable, though.

[Lock Jaw]

Assumed that Hangman's shirt said "Virginia is for Losers" at first.... for some reason.

[Lock Jaw]

Bryan Danielson speaking the truth of Hangman not really wrestling ever.... wait, did he just turn heel via insulting the city....

[Lock Jaw]

This segment would be a lot better without Dark Order standing behind Adam Page.... if it was just Bryan/Page in the ring

[Lock Jaw]

Weird at turning Bryan heel to work against Page.... at least keep him face, maybe saying a little bit of hard truths like he was saying, but still being a face.....

But I do admit that if anyone can put over Page and make him more legit it is a heel Bryan...

[Lock Jaw]

But yeah, that segment was really brought down by the presence of the Dark Order.... should just have been Page/Bryan and make them feel like "big deals" capable of standing in the ring by themselves and being the focus.

[Lock Jaw]

Hangman needs to drop Dark Order quick. The sooner the better.

He also needs to drop "Cowboy s***" as a catchphrase. Somebody please think of the children.

[Lock Jaw]

Sooooo weird at turning Bryan heel.... but already he is like the most over heel they have.

[Lock Jaw]

Yay @ Bryan promising to viciously beat up every Dark Order member. Hopefully writes them off TV single-handedly.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He ain’t dropping the dark order because they’re somehow over in every arena they go in.

[Lock Jaw]

MJF cutting a promo with a bottle of urine

[slik]

MJF cutting a promo with a bottle of urine

Lock Jaw/slik/Triple A all on the same page

[Lock Jaw]

MJF with a pretty good promo actually.... kind of making up for him being presented as so talented in the ring and getting cheered. Nice that he is "acknowledging it" in a way rather than ignoring it.....

[Lock Jaw]

Oh look, here are these jobbers again. Daniel Garcia one of the jobbers with the most focus ever.... (Hyperbole)

[Lock Jaw]

The Bunny hot braud

[ron the dial]

Lock Jaw/slik/Triple A all on the same page
whatever drink that is they've been at it for a while on BTE and they are well aware of what they are doing as far as the urine aspect.

[Lock Jaw]

Ishii has a super weird posture

[Lock Jaw]

Like a turtle poking his head out of his shell

[Lock Jaw]

Nice at Ishii Turtling Up and no-selling all of the Butcher's punches all the way to the other corner

[Lock Jaw]

Super long match to put over a comedy act and his never-ending feud with Matt Hardy and a foreign dude that doesn't work for the company.

[Lock Jaw]

They keep mentioning Chaos like we are supposed to know what it is and why it matters.....

[Lock Jaw]

Andrade really needs a mouthpiece... shouldn't cut promos by himself unless they are in Spanish (via video package and with subtitles)

[Jordan]

Gotta watch NJPW Lockjaw

[Lock Jaw]

Jamie Hayter looking super pretty

[Lock Jaw]

Weird @ having Vickie Guerrero as manager but never letting Vickie talk and get heat....

[Lock Jaw]

I predict Serena Deeb gets involved and costs Shida the match.... but maybe not....

[ron the dial]

Gotta watch NJPW Lockjaw
this really shouldn't be a prerequisite to watch AEW though. they should do a better job of putting a package together for guys or something.

[Lock Jaw]

"We're looking at two of the greatest AEW Women's champions in history"
"Yes, two of the four"

[Lock Jaw]

Nice at Serena getting involved after all.... thought they would have just "closed the door" on that feud, glad they didn't

[Lock Jaw]

"Weird" though at Serena's interference not actually mattering and the match just continuing for awhile..... yes, it was a submission on the leg Serena clipped, but with it going on for a bit after it is like... ok, if she got caught in that submission it probably would have been over anyways, the one extra shot from Serena didn't really matter.

[Lock Jaw]

Thought Malaguy said "the definition of the nightman is...." but he said "the definition of a nightmare is..."

[Lock Jaw]

Will say it every time.... MJF needs to get rid of the scarf thing

[Lock Jaw]

Me, everytime I see MJF: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/57/d1/4457d184736ee1a1ab5b28fc456934d3.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Nice @ CM Punk stepping up to do something important

[Lock Jaw]

SMH at fans chanting "Holy s***" just for Punk standing there

[Triple A]

Weird @ having Vickie Guerrero as manager but never letting Vickie talk and get heat....

They have tried to give her mic time but she has been terrible tbh... best to keep her away from the mic... so no real good reason for her to be there really

[Lock Jaw]

SMH at now chanting the F word..... somebody please think of the children...

[Lock Jaw]

Whoa @ Billy Gunn and his scumbag sons actually showing up on the show again after turning heel against Big Show months ago and then just disappearing.

[Lock Jaw]

I know sometimes WWE feuds go on "way too long" but seems like they go "too short" on AEW.... like why wouldn't Darby insist on a rematch with MJF and get it? Instead of just "I don't know where and when I'll face you again"

[Lock Jaw]

I don't even remember who won the Super Kliq/Jurassic Express & Christian match....... I know it was Jurassic Express and Christian from Kenny's promo earlier but I really have no memory of it.....

I remember Christian jumping off a balcony and it not being a dramatic thing/moment and that's it.....

[Lock Jaw]

Lio Rush/Dante Martin with some terrible theme music

[Lock Jaw]

Acclaimed a nice jobber team....

[Lock Jaw]

Lio Rush kinda looks like a little kid in his Power Rangers jammies

[Lock Jaw]

' "This is Awesome" Sucks ' sign held up and I think "nice", and the fans immediately start chanting "This is Awesome"......

[Lock Jaw]

That match was way too long...

[Lock Jaw]

Taz here now, actually being the heel manager of his stable for once....

[Lock Jaw]

Sammy Guevara vs Jay Lethal main event up next.... wish they had done something during the show to get me invested in their main event but am just not..... With WWE, even if it is lame, contrived, and cookie cutter.... at least they usually try to do some sort of story reason for their main events of every show.

The very least they could have done is hype it up a bit.... do some video packages... hear from both men during the night.... but nothing....

[Lock Jaw]

SMH at a "this is wrestling" chant....

[Lock Jaw]

Glad they stuck with the TNT title match in PIP so we could see the trainers attending to Sammy the whole break (I fast forwarded)

[Lock Jaw]

Standing Spanish Fly just does not look "good"

[Lock Jaw]

Good job by Sammy selling that he is super hurt and it taking everything he had to hit his finisher.....

[Lock Jaw]

Inner Circle should beat up Sammy Guevarra right now

[Lock Jaw]

Well, that was a "just ok" show as usual....

Only things to encourage me to keep watching:

Mystifying Daniel Bryan heel turn and where that goes
CM Punk vs MJF

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well, that was a "just ok" show as usual....

Only things to encourage me to keep watching:

Mystifying Daniel Bryan heel turn and where that goes
CM Punk vs MJF

Wait, are they actually turning Danielson heel already?! Hahahahaha!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I thought they were just getting cocky and doing face vs. face. They’re actually turning Danielson heel? Woooooow.

[Lock Jaw]

Wouldn't be surprised if he goes back face after the feud is over, but yeah was not just "cocky face" but a full fledged turn.

[Fignuts]

How was it a full fledged turn? Seemed more like he was tapping into his old school, aggressive roh persona. He didn't do anything truly despicable or anything.

[#1-norm-fan]

I miss shocking, not-so-subtle heel and face turns in general. When was the last truly great one?

[Triple A]

Apparently Moxley was planned to win the tournament according to "Andrew Zarian" and he would have turned heel to feud with Hangman Page... so there was a change of plans

[ron the dial]

not sure if it's the last one but rollins turning on the shield maybe? although i can't rightly remember if that was a shock or not? i think it was? fuck how long ago was that now anyway?

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah Rollins turning was a pretty classic old school style turn.

I get there weren’t crowds so it wasn’t going to have maximum effect but how did they not make a “moment” out of Reigns turning heel?

[drave]

not sure if it's the last one but rollins turning on the shield maybe? although i can't rightly remember if that was a shock or not? i think it was? fuck how long ago was that now anyway?




Both the debut and destruction of the shield were in Indy. I was present for both shows and can tell you that the place blew up when Rollins started wailing on them with the chair.


Their "debut" was well received too.... but there were too many people who didn't know who they were, but were more excited at the prospect of some "new people interfering" that would lead to some cool new stuff.

[Fignuts]

There have definitely been more since Seth Rollins. No one remembers because no one involved was any where near as over as The Sheild.

[Lock Jaw]

How was it a full fledged turn?

Insulting the town.
Fighting a face and refusing to pin him so he can viciously beat him up more.
Threatening to do the same to more faces.

There really is no arguing that it was full fledged. If it was just insulting Adam Page I could say it wasn't full fledged and just some smack talk.... but it was way more.

[Fignuts]

I did miss the line about Virginia. Still this might be him leaning more heelish rather than fully turning, to get people on page's side, as I imagine he's going over. Like when hbk acted like a massive prick in the build to his match with hogan. Especially considering AEW's history of blurring lines between face and heel.

I think it's the right move, as Page is their new (somewhat) homegrown talent, and you don't want to put him in a fued that splits the audience right off the bat. But at the same time a win over Danielson proves the victory over omega wasn't a fluke, and helps cement him as a top guy. So having Danielson go "off the rails" for a bit is the best way to do this program. But they have to be careful not to go full heel (I mean like eco warrior bryan level) as that would be a bad idea.

[drave]

Dickhead Danielson is great.

[#1-norm-fan]

He does have a great smug smile.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The idea of turning Danielson heel not even 3 months into his tenure is absolutely insane.

[GD]

I did not appreciate the lack of selling by Sammy in the TNT Championship match. It was ludicrous.