If you could go back in time and change one thing in professional wrestling...

[RP]

You get to change one thing in the past.



I would make sure Chris Benoit wasnt crazy and didnt kill his family. Because he was my favorite wrestler of All-Time when that happened. And despite me joking about it, I was devastated. If I could change that and have him wrestle like 5 more years, I would be really happy.

[Bad News Gertner]

I would go back and undo RP's wish. That little kid was a cocky son of a bitch.

[weather vane]

Save WCW somehow.

[RP]

I would go back and undo RP's wish. That little kid was a cocky son of a bitch.




I'm told Daniel never tapped.

[Bad News Gertner]

Preferred to go out like Austin

[Bad News Gertner]

You should make a caveat: it can't be a death.

[Bad News Gertner]

Macho Man beats Hogan at WM5

[Lock Jaw]

Christian gets a big push in 2005 gets the world title, never leaves and goes to TNA... becomes a big singles star in his own right in WWE on par with, if not greater than, Edge was.

[xrodmuc316]

Make it so Linda McMahon never runs for political office, then Vince could have continued with the debauchery!

[RP]

Macho Man beats Hogan at WM5


That might change a fuckton!

[ron the dial]

bruiser brody stays with all japan. i'll respect not reversing a death directly, but maybe sticking with baba changes the end game. or maybe not. but I'll take that chance and hope to see vince bring brody in to face hogan if it pans out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can’t pick just one. WCW should have made a lot of different decisions in 1997, 1998 and onwards.

[Sting Fan]

Sting over Hogan clean as a whistle and end the nWo.

[M-A-G]

Talk Vince and company out of going public.

[Lock Jaw]

I'd like to hear the arguments made against making the company more profitable.

[Destor]

Save WCW somehow.fix the main of starrcade 97

[M-A-G]

I'd like to hear the arguments made against making the company more profitable.

I don't see any of those profits. All I got to see was a slow, steady, shitty, insane decline in quality until I couldn't take it anymore and had to get out in order maintain my mental health.

[Jordan]

From a creative perspective I'd probably set up WCW as an actual WWF brand instead of killing it off and going with Raw vs Smackdown as the theme of the promotion. I'd like to have seen WCW take over the Smackdown slot, and to have bought out the Goldberg and Sting Turner contracts so we could have the two main stays of WCW. To start they would have Goldberg, Sting, Booker T, DDP plus everyone else that jumped to WWF.

I'd have Shane play the CEO and outbid WWF for the Smackdown rights and rename it WCW Smackdown. To further piss off his Dad he hires Erich Bischoff to run WCW as the commissioner.

The ECW story can still be involved but I'd revive the Heyman hatred for WCW and do a Heyman lead invasion of WCW with the ECW stars like RVD, Rhino, Sabu, Sandman and Dreamer. They'd peal off certain guys to join their ECW cause like Mike Awesome, Tazz (as a mouthpiece, manager and commentator for WCW eventually), Raven (who would leave WWF for WCW), and Lance Storm.

I think the initial interest of WCW continuing under the McMahon banner, and retaining most of the beloved stars plus the added interest of ECW trying to fuck it all up, would be really interesting.

Of course eventually you'll learn that ECW has been hired by Vince himself to help take out WCW. You could even say that Shane made some kind of contract that prohibited Vince or any of the WWF talents from coming anywhere near a WCW venue. There is Vince's loophole.

Slowly you could transition guys from the WWF to the ECW stable on Smackdown to spice things up and create fun matches and angles. You'll add certain stars as the Waner contracts run out, The Steiners, Rey Misterio, Ric Flair... they all come back for at least a run. Hell you can even have Heyman use his new beast "The Next Big Thing" to take out Shane's undefeated Goldberg.

Ah just one of million ways it could have gone that would have been better than what happened.

[Lock Jaw]

I don't see any of those profits. All I got to see was a slow, steady, shitty, insane decline in quality until I couldn't take it anymore and had to get out in order maintain my mental health.

I'm sure that argument will convince the businessman not to make money.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd like to hear the arguments made against making the company more profitable.

I’ve often thought that going public was one of the most negative things for them creatively. You become beholden to stakeholders. But the truth is that was probably always going to happen as long as you want to prop yourself up and be a global entity at all.

If they hadn’t of gone public, who knows if the company would even still be around?

You could make similar arguments about the WWF going national or the advent of cable television exposing so much. They were inevitable things that changed the game.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'd have Austin stop 9/11.

[rez]

Sting's safety peeps hired to watch over Owen's rafter drop
Vince doesn't degrade his family over and over or make people kiss his ass (literally)
Finger Poke of Doom
Russo in WCW (that ugly WCW logo redesign *cringe*)
Hogan creative freedom (especially in TNA)

[rez]

Dixie Carter

[Swiss Ultimate]

Sting's safety peeps hired to watch over Owen's rafter drop
Vince doesn't degrade his family over and over or make people kiss his ass (literally)
Finger Poke of Doom
Russo in WCW (that ugly WCW logo redesign *cringe*)
Hogan creative freedom (especially in TNA)

Hogan ruined everything good TNA did in one night.

[Lock Jaw]

one thing

Sting's safety peeps hired to watch over Owen's rafter drop
Vince doesn't degrade his family over and over or make people kiss his ass (literally)
Finger Poke of Doom
Russo in WCW (that ugly WCW logo redesign *cringe*)
Hogan creative freedom (especially in TNA)

[rez]

That time I was at ring side while Christy Hemme was ring announcing and she stopped mid sentence to come have sex with me backstage in a porta potty. It was very unprofessional of me.

[rez]

Tell Ted Turner he's a dumbass if they merge with AOL. bam. That one is for you, Jaw

[Maluco]

Save WCW. WWE has just been a slow decline since then, until it slowly became unwatchable.

Vince in total control with no competition is terrible

[XL]

Of course eventually you'll learn that ECW has been hired by Vince himself to help take out WCW. You could even say that Shane made some kind of contract that prohibited Vince or any of the WWF talents from coming anywhere near a WCW venue. There is Vince's loophole.

“It’s me, <s>Austin</s> Shane O. It was me all along, <s>Austin</s> Shane O!!”

[Mr. Nerfect]

I might be getting too cerebral with this, but when it comes to something like saving WCW, you have to keep in mind they were really getting smashed since about 1999. The WWF was fine for a bit after that. Saving WCW might have just given us an alternate TNA. But if you actually prop up WCW, that could potentially harm the WWF and take us down another dark path.

I dunno, I might be getting too far in the reeds in how destined some things are to be doomed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Some other ideas:

* Vince doesn’t do the XFL, invests the money in wrestling.

* The XFL is a success and Vince moves on from wrestling.

* TNA takes a different approach.

[Sepholio]

MAGA TA never gets in the accident.

[Fignuts]

I'm sure that argument will convince the businessman not to make money.

And?

It's a hypothetical. Who cares?

[Maluco]

I might be getting too cerebral with this, but when it comes to something like saving WCW, you have to keep in mind they were really getting smashed since about 1999. The WWF was fine for a bit after that. Saving WCW might have just given us an alternate TNA. But if you actually prop up WCW, that could potentially harm the WWF and take us down another dark path.

I dunno, I might be getting too far in the reeds in how destined some things are to be doomed.

WCW was a bit lost creatively, but they still had an established brand, legit wrestling stars under contract and a new TV deal under a new umbrella could have made them a viable alternative and kept WWE on their toes.

What we got from it was a nothing invasion angle, followed by a stranglehold on the business. WCW might have been in a creative mess for a few years, but WWE has been in one for over a decade now.

Today, in 2022, WCW, even at its worst, would have been very welcome. What we do have is a sole rival US promotion completely run creatively by the son of a successful businessman with no prior experience in the business.

I honestly don’t think WCW sticking around would be any worse than what we have now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WCW was a bit lost creatively, but they still had an established brand, legit wrestling stars under contract and a new TV deal under a new umbrella could have made them a viable alternative and kept WWE on their toes.

What we got from it was a nothing invasion angle, followed by a stranglehold on the business. WCW might have been in a creative mess for a few years, but WWE has been in one for over a decade now.

Today, in 2022, WCW, even at its worst, would have been very welcome. What we do have is a sole rival US promotion completely run creatively by the son of a successful businessman with no prior experience in the business.

I honestly don’t think WCW sticking around would be any worse than what we have now.

I think WCW was cooked by the time it went out of business. I don’t think there was a way to recoup what it inherently cost to run. The big names were signed to AOL-Time Warner. You’d have to sink MILLIONS to get them under a new umbrella, and they weren’t exactly getting WCW out of the situation they found themselves in.

I do wish for a way better invasion angle, and I’ve got no clue how that works with WWF at the helm. You’d need Vince to be an entirely different Vince.

I agree with your greater point. We need a true alternative. WCW would be more than welcome. I still have fantasies about Vince finally appreciating the value in having that IP and being able to deliver a different flavor to fans. Hell, sell it to The Rock or something. I worry anything WWE is going to have WWE stink on it, but they’re so big I hope they grow beyond being that one thing, you know?

[Lock Jaw]

And?

It's a hypothetical. Who cares?

Was just being nitpicky and a bit of an a-hole..... had he said he would have changed it so they never went public I would have been fine because that is the hypothetical "it just happens" kind of change....... but he said he would go back and talk Vince out of it which got me away from thinking hypothetical and into what possible argument he could make....

Like I said, just being an a-hole....

[Fignuts]

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