World Wrestling Entertainment Presents: Wrestlemania XXXVIII, A Two-Night Premium Live Event

[Nark Order]

Cody match was cool but it felt wrong. Like I was witnessing infidelity or something.

[GD]

These poor ladies have to follow Lynch-Belair and Rhodes-Rollins

[James Steele]

Cody match was cool but it felt wrong. Like I was witnessing infidelity or something.

It did seem bizarre. I am surprised they used all his branding and theme.

[Ben Rodrigues]

Ronda should just hit a judo throw and then arm bar. That will take Charlotte down a peg or two.

[rez]

This Carolina/Duke game has been close the whole time. Final minute. 1 point game

[Triple A]

Bummer that Boogs is going to be out for a year. That sucks.

Did they say a year on commentary or where did u hear that?

[Lock Jaw]

Women's match was great.... for all the grief everyone here gave Becky taking the title off of Bianca at the time.... Bianca was not a star yet, but now she is for sure...

[GD]

That might be the best Charlotte Flair spear of all time.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Cody match was cool but it felt wrong. Like I was witnessing infidelity or something.

Overall it’s good though. He wasn’t happy in the fed, went and made something of himself elsewhere and gets to come back to great fanfare. A really good signal to anyone else unhappy in their position that they can go do something else. Could be a good omen for rasslin in general

[Lock Jaw]

Random Sasha Banks video package now.... they did this at Royal Rumble too... just a random Sasha video package for no reason.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Did they say a year on commentary or where did u hear that?

Looking elsewhere about his injury. 6 to 12 months is what I saw

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Oops lol Charlotte couldn’t pull off that average Andrade double sault

[Sepholio]

look at that hand print on rondas chest lol

[Triple A]

Any1 ever have warm "apple crumble" with ice cream on it... delicious... craving it right now...

[Jordan]

Any1 ever have warm "apple crumble" with ice cream on it... delicious... craving it right now...

Yeah I've had it. That's delicious.

[Sepholio]

Any1 ever have warm "apple crumble" with ice cream on it... delicious... craving it right now...

all the time my man. All the time.

[Triple A]

Gonna try to buy some for WrestleMania Night 2 tomorrow night

[GD]

Yikes at the fake crowd reaction

[GD]

This isn’t a bad match

[Lock Jaw]

This Seth Rollins road to rasslemania thing seems weird.... other people can just make challenges, even open challenges, for matches at rasslemania, but Rollins to earn his spot despite being one of the "biggest stars"

[Triple A]

Would be cool if this match "devolved into a shoot"

[Ben Rodrigues]

I feel like they're trying to make some of these spots too complex resulting in botches.

[GD]

Damb @ Ronda reversing the Figure 8

[Ben Rodrigues]

Would be cool if this match "devolved into a shoot"

This.

[GD]

Jesus @ that Flair bump to the floor

[Sepholio]

there is no way that is the first time someone survived the figure 8. No way. I am not being Mandella Effected tonight.

[Ben Rodrigues]

Wow Charlotte just broke her ass.

[rez]

Tar Heels win. Adios, Coach K

[GD]

Lil Naitch is a biased ref

[weather vane]

Tar Heels win. Adios, Coach K

Wild.

[GD]

this match is not very good

ronda sucks

It’s not bad. Ronda’s working very hard.

[Ben Rodrigues]

this match is not very good

ronda sucks

This is Charlotte's fault. She should be carrying her through the match.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Charlotte nip slip causing cuts to black?

[GD]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[GD]

Ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha

[erickman]

Lil Naitch is a biased ref

yeah he screwed ronda

[Ben Rodrigues]

Boo.

[GD]

Flair wins with a big boot :rofl:

[rez]

ROBINSON. DAMN YOU

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Bwa hahaha what a shitty finish

[Jordan]

Damn that was a very hard hitting match. The pace was better at the start but it did drag a bit but closed up near the end really nicely, I don't hate the finish because it's a clear that there will be a rematch.

[weather vane]

Cody. Charlotte nip slip. Austin.

Pretty cool.

[GD]

Rousey’s return has been incredibly underwhelming. Having her lose in such a silly fashion was a pretty bad decision.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Ronda sold that boot beautiful but what a lackluster finish

[James Steele]

They refuse to ever make Charlotte look weak. I guess this feud will go on for a few more months?

[Lock Jaw]

Damn at Cody even having his AEW theme.... neck tattoo still terrible...

[James Steele]

Submission Match at WrestleMania BACKLASH?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That match was ok. Good violence which covered up some of the sloppiness. Didn’t help that it came after one of the best women’s matches in WWE history

Probably should’ve switched the order like everybody has been saying.

[Sepholio]

Really wish Charlotte and Ronda both lost after the match is turned into a surprise triple threat and the NEW Champion Gail Kim is crowned.

[Lock Jaw]

Still surreal at Cody abandoning the ship he helped build and coming back to WWE

[Lock Jaw]

Damn that neck tattoo.... just damn...

[GD]

hahahahaha move Ronda to the alumni section and let's move past her boring ass

She had a solid outing.

[Triple A]

I guess the New Day match got cut unless that's the main event

[GD]

Looks like New Day vs Peaky Blinders got cut

[Nark Order]

Overall it’s good though. He wasn’t happy in the fed, went and made something of himself elsewhere and gets to come back to great fanfare. A really good signal to anyone else unhappy in their position that they can go do something else. Could be a good omen for rasslin in general

Yeah yeah yeah. Good for the business. Blah blah blah. That's probably true but it still hurt my feelings.

[Sepholio]

lol cut for time so they can rerun video packages ahahahahahahaha

[Triple A]

lol just playing 15 mins of commercials and unnecessary video packages instead of the match "cut for time"

[Evil Vito]

Jesus Christ the amount of fucking pointless promos and ads

[GD]

I hope this can hold a candle to Piper’s Pit segment from Mania 21

[weather vane]

Wrestlemania 5 the best one.

[Ben Rodrigues]

https://i.redd.it/gdo9lv5xgey71.png

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah yeah yeah. Good for the business. Blah blah blah. That's probably true but it still hurt my feelings.

[Got Em]FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS[/Got Em]

[weather vane]

Mr. Downeyyyy

[Ben Rodrigues]

I've seen this promo at least five times.

[Triple A]

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[rez]

Beat that old man's ass, Owens!

[Nark Order]

The only thing that makes me happy about Cody going to WWE is that they got him post neck tattoo and they're just going to have him on television every week and act like it doesn't bother them.

[rez]

The only thing that makes me happy about Cody going to WWE is that they got him post neck tattoo and they're just going to have him on television every week and act like it doesn't bother them.

:p

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This is all about getting that HBK in Montreal heat and it’s kinda great

[Triple A]

Hope Stone Cold mentions Owens' beady little eyes...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

KO looking like the slim reaper

[Triple A]

Def the right decision to put this on last instead of the Rousey match...

[Triple A]

Stone Cold looks good / the same

[Evil Vito]

Glad Austin's got the kneebraces back on. The only thing we want shattering tonight is the glass.

[Triple A]

ATV seems fun...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They’re milking this as if Austin isn’t a semi regular special guest

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The power to have these people in the palm of your hand

Dunno how Austin doesn’t have a boner right now.

[Triple A]

lol @ Austin doing the laughing into an abrupt serious face thing

[Triple A]

Hope Stone Cold mentions Owens' beady little eyes...

yesss

[rez]

Kevin making very good points

[Damian Rey 2.0]

C’mon let’s fight

[GD]

Oh crap! They’re gonna fight

[Lock Jaw]

Cody v Rollins p good... not a single AEW chant, guess I overestimated....

Wonder where Cody goes from here....

[Jordan]

OMG this is FUN!

[GD]

Austin coming out of retirement for a No Holds Barred fight

[Damian Rey 2.0]

A good old fashioned Austin brawl yes please

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I wish this was announced as an actual match instead of impromptu

[Lock Jaw]

Damn.... somehow forgot that Vader passed away...

[Jordan]

HELLL YEAHHHHH

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Me too. Was bummed to remember when his family walked out.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

SACK OF SHIT

[Triple A]

hell yea

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Poor ref had his training sesh cut short

[OssMan]

Did they ever address why Kevin Owens does the stunner

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Camera cuts ruining everything

[Damian Rey 2.0]

God these camera cuts are giving me cancer

[OssMan]

Multiple camera cuts on every punch, making me dizzy

[Triple A]

Did they ever address why Kevin Owens does the stunner

Think he just started doing it but "asked Stone Cold for permission" irl a few years ago

[Lock Jaw]

Lol terrible AR Undertaker graphic just as I was thinking how epic his entrances always are

[OssMan]

@ Lock Jaw can you shed some light on this, isn't it usually a director in the "truck" who says what camera to cut to, and then someone presses a button to do the cut... feels like this is just one person switching between three different buttons every second

[OssMan]

It's funny that their response to people being annoyed at wrestlemania being 8 hours long was to split it up into two 5 hour shows on different nights

[erickman]

wow he is taking bumps guess steve saw sting still doing it

[Triple A]

damn @ suplexing Stone Cold on the concrete floor

[Sepholio]

OMG

[Jordan]

Fucking amazing Austin just took a suplex on concrete are you kidding me, what a legend.

[Evil Vito]

Come on Austin, do a balcony dive through a table. You know you want to after you saw Sting do it!

[rez]

It's funny that their response to people being annoyed at wrestlemania being 8 hours long was to split it up into two 5 hour shows on different nights

and half of it has been video packages so far

[Damian Rey 2.0]

THIS MOTHER FUCKER AUSTIN BEEN HOLDING OUT ON US

[DaveWadding]

BAH GAWD

[Sepholio]

did not see SCSA taking bumps like that

[Lock Jaw]

Is Pat McAfee supposed to be a face... he seems way too annoying to be a face.....

[Triple A]

Love Stone Cold.....

[Sepholio]

Now this is what I want out of a beer drinking cowboy damnit!

[Triple A]

best WrestleMania in years

[Damian Rey 2.0]

This has been so much fun.

[Sepholio]

Why have we been cursed with years of Goldberg when Austin can still go as a special attraction!? >_<

[Lock Jaw]

Damn.... both women's titles are today? Damn also because I feel like I've been watching long enough and it should be almost over....

[Jordan]

I hope Austin doesn't throw up! This need to drink constantly is worrying!

[Sepholio]

LOLOL

[Lock Jaw]

Feel like having two nights they should have put the women's matches on different nights.... or at least put Becky/Bianca on after this one.... I guess Rhonda gets the top billing of course.... takes a bit away from a star making night for Bianca....

[Triple A]

hell yea

[Jordan]

Why have we been cursed with years of Goldberg when Austin can still go as a special attraction!? >_<

Saudi Prince is gonna be pisssed!

[Jordan]

Amazing wow unreal. What a night!

AUSTIN! AUSTIN! AUSTIN!

[Triple A]

Perfect angle... massive heel heat by running down the home town... very simple and good

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That was a blast

[OssMan]

camera cut kinda ruined the chair bouncing off the rope and hitting him in the face...

[erickman]

steve played us wonder how long he trained

[Fenix122]

Really enjoyed the first night! Hope tomorrow can keep it going

[OssMan]

Perfect angle... massive heel heat by running down the home town... very simple and good
Feels weird that they "did it right"... feels like they should have had Stone Cold lose just because it would make people mad and there are never any good moments in wrestling because they always just do what makes you mad and then forget about it

[Nark Order]

Austin probably didn't want this advertised as a match because he was unsure of how his performance would be but it was honestly fine. They could have just hyped this as a match.

[Sepholio]

omg once in a life time austin throws you a beer at mania and you drop it. press f for FAILURE

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait, Austin actually wrestled a full match?

Why would they not promote that? Lol

[GD]

I don’t want to see Austin wrestle ever again.

[Jordan]

Technically possibly the most Stupendous Wrestlemania of all time.

[Fenix122]

Poor Byron

[GD]

This was a fun WrestleMania

[DaveWadding]

WHO WANTS A BEER AND A STUNNER? GIMME A HELL YEAH

[Jordan]

Austin's brother went to RASSLIN.

[Jordan]

I can't imagine what they could do to top tonight.

[Evil Vito]

Kevin Owens just main-evented Wrestlemania against Stone Cold Steve Austin. In 2022.

Wrestling is still absolutely wild.

[Sepholio]

Kinda wild to think that we had Undertaker going into the HoF last night, Steve Austin wrestling his final match in front of the home crowd tonight after 19 years, and tomorrow night we could possibly have The Rock return to set up what could be his final match next year. Insane.

[OssMan]

Feels kinda "gay" that he's drinking his own craft lager instead of a shitty ass american gas station Budweiser

[Lock Jaw]

I hope L'il Naitch turns heel and helps Charlotte win...

[Evil Vito]

Austin consumed approximately 2 full beers whilst spilling about 4 cases worth on himself. Just like old times!

[OssMan]

lol @ Austin doing the laughing into an abrupt serious face thing

:lol::|

[rez]

Are his beers any good? I've seen it at the liquor store but haven't ever bit the bullet

[Lock Jaw]

Damn at Charlotte trying to do Andrade's double moonsault thing and missing terribly....

[Lock Jaw]

Michael Cole claiming no one has ever survived the Figure 8.....

[Lock Jaw]

This women's match def not as good... was ok I guess but super sloppy with a weird finish....

[xrodmuc316]

Night 1 of Wrestlemania was great!

Charlotte Flair is the worst, why would they book her to win, like seriously??
Seth Rollins is a treasure
Cody > AEW
Miz is also a treasure
Becky & Bianca was perfect
Drew cutting the ropes was the best part of that whole match
Boogz injury seems like a work, just based on how quickly they made a diagnosis.
Did New Day get bumped to night 2, or did I just completely miss something?
K.O. can kill it in any role
Austin took some impressive bumps, and holy hell did he drink A LOT of beers :rofl:

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, women's tag match tomorrow, so I guess they get some women.... should have left Charlotte and Ronda for tomorrow..... and Becky/Bianca should have closed tonight instead of this upcoming interview segment....

[Lock Jaw]

So freaking bizarre ending a WM with an interview segment, even if it will turn into a brawl....

[Lock Jaw]

Wish Austin dyed his beard... can barely see it and it looks weird...

[ron the dial]

honestly had fun with the whole night, but becky/bianca was easily match of the night, probably year so far, and is gonna be hard to top.

[GD]

Night 1 of Wrestlemania was great!

Charlotte Flair is the worst, why would they book her to win, like seriously??
Seth Rollins is a treasure
Cody > AEW
Miz is also a treasure
Becky & Bianca was perfect
Drew cutting the ropes was the best part of that whole match
Boogz injury seems like a work, just based on how quickly they made a diagnosis.
Did New Day get bumped to night 2, or did I just completely miss something?
K.O. can kill it in any role
Austin took some impressive bumps, and holy hell did he drink A LOT of beers :rofl:

Fucking Tony Khan rolling in his grave :rofl: What a fucking creep :rofl: :rofl:

[ron the dial]

stone cold throwing down in a brawl was just about as surreal as seeing cody show up and win.

[Triple A]

Cody vs. Rollins was my fav match of the night! Austin thing was #2 just cause of how fun it was. Really the best WWE PPV in years...

[Triple A]

Glad they cut the New Day filler match... should just put it on the pre show tomorrow instead

[Jordan]

Becky and Bianca for MOTN and potential MOTY contender, a true classic. I absolutely loved it.

Austin and KO totally over delivered and was an hour of pure joy.

Cody and Seth was really great, brutal match very intense and it turned out really good in the end.

The Miz & Logan Paul vs The Mysterio's was also awesome and a ton of fun.

Ronda & Charlotte was also very well done just had some longer sections that dragged and pretty unsatisfying finish.

Drew and Corbin was pretty good and served it's purpose in keeping your eye on McIntyre as a perennial contender.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh so now he is challenging Austin to an actual match.... so freaking weird....

[Triple A]

Oh so now he is challenging Austin to an actual match.... so freaking weird....

watch the show live with us tomorrow fucker..

[James Steele]

Cody got a bigger reaction than I thought he would. Still seems surreal. Poetic his last WM was as Stardust at WM32 in Dallas. They have to treat him like a big deal after that sorta return/debut right?

[Jordan]

Tomorrow's card is good, it could be really good but there is a lack of surprise unless they have some big surprise planned.

[Triple A]

Tomorrow's card

<h3>WWE Championship &amp; Universal Championship
Winner Take All Unification Match
Brock Lesnar (WWE Champion) vs. Roman Reigns (Universal Champion)</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/gJMMxzwl.jpg">

<h3>Anything Goes Match
Sami Zayn vs. Johnny Knoxville</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/WFctiuCl.jpg">

<h3>Pat McAfee vs. Austin Theory</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/xzeRJsgl.jpg">

<h3>Edge vs. AJ Styles</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/WetGgYAl.jpg">

<h3>Bobby Lashley vs. Omos</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/qC2rRF9l.jpg">

<h3>Raw Tag Team Championship Triple Threat Match
RK-Bro (c) vs. The Street Profits vs. Alpha Academy</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/zGskivWl.jpg">

<h3>Women’s Tag Team Championship Four Way Match
Queen Zelina &amp; Carmella (c) vs. Sasha Banks &amp; Naomi vs. Rhea Ripley &amp; Liv Morgan vs. Natalya &amp; Shayna Baszler</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/WcfLc7Jl.jpg">

<h3>Xavier Woods &amp; Kofi Kingston vs. Sheamus &amp; Ridge Holland (?)</h3>
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/XFsPpYKl.jpg">

[Crippla]

I gotta say I'm very impressed! Good show...they actually got me pumped for tomorrow night

[Triple A]

Actually pretty interested in every match tomorrow besides the women's one and the New Day match if it happens

[Juan]

Kinda disappointed Austin didn’t give his brother the Stunner

[Lock Jaw]

watch the show live with us tomorrow fucker..

Working tomorrow so I can't.... sorry....

[Lock Jaw]

Becky/Bianca match and moment of the night and probably should have gone on last..... even with Austin actually wrestling.

Speaking of, so freaking weird that they announce that it is going to Steve Austin as a guest on the KO Show.... and then do the build like it is actually just going to be a fight... and then get to the event to have the KO Show and have him challenge him to an actual match instead of announcing it beforehand....

I guess maybe Austin didn't know/couldn't decide until the last minute how much he wanted to do... whether it was gonna be just give KO the stunner and that's that or if he could do more....

[Lock Jaw]

That show was entirely too long.... feeling lightheaded now...

[GD]

Only 19 pages for a WrestleMania? Fucking pathetic!

[The Fraze]

The crowd moronically counting each stomp in the corner was dumb as hell. If there's ever a time for the "WHAT?" chant, it's for Austin while he's stomping a mudhole and walking it dry.

[GD]

The crowd moronically counting each stomp in the corner was dumb as hell. If there's ever a time for the "WHAT?" chant, it's for Austin while he's stomping a mudhole and walking it dry.

Un-fricking-believable

[GD]

They had Charlotte Flair end Asuka's streak and pin Rousey with a running boot at WrestleMania. I am not sure how to feel about it.

[The Fraze]

The ending was weird but Charlotte vs. Ronda was good and stiff as hell. It would have felt a lot better if the build was better and the crowd actually cared.

[GD]

The ending was weird but Charlotte vs. Ronda was good and stiff as hell. It would have felt a lot better if the build was better and the crowd actually cared.

It was a bit sloppy at times but Rousey worked her behind off.

[Triple A]

Bryan Alvarez says that he heard from someone who knows Ronda Rousey that Rousey DID "walk out" on Friday and wasn't at the HOF but "cooler heads prevailed"... Says she was "furious" when she found out that her match wasn't going on last...

Ronda thought that she was going on last. She wasn't. When she found out, she was furious, I was told. One person who knows her, so I presume that this is true, said that she was so mad yesterday, Friday, that she just walked out. She wasn't at the Hall of Fame. But cooler heads prevailed, I guess, and she showed up today. But she was angry that they did not go on last.

[The Fraze]

Re-watched both Becky/Bianca and Cody/Seth

Both were so fantastic

Best matches of the night.

[The Fraze]

It was a bit sloppy at times but Rousey worked her behind off.

Feels like the sloppiness works when the girls work stiff and it's more of a brawl. I thought it was ok. Maybe because I'm a Charlotte mark and her tits popped out...again.

[rez]

I was always under the impression that Austin/KO was a match so the interview made me go, wtf. Who books months for an interview?

[rez]

Wrestlemania always delivers...but for how long? Summerslam and Royal Rumble aren't these days.

[rez]

Bash at the Beach and Halloween Havoc. I just want those PPVs used again. Let's go Cody

[xrodmuc316]

Fucking Tony Khan rolling in his grave :rofl: What a fucking creep :rofl: :rofl:

I wish that creeper was in a grave instead of rubbing wrestlers at press conferences :rofl:

Cody is a bigger star after 1 night back in WWE than 3 years in AEW.

[Juan]

When Austin hit that suplex on Owens on the stage and popped right back up. You love to see it

[GD]

I wish that creeper was in a grave instead of rubbing wrestlers at press conferences :rofl:

Cody is a bigger star after 1 night back in WWE than 3 years in AEW.

lol he's such a disgrace :rofl: did you see him marking out for Joe? :rofl: :rofl: like dude wtf :rofl:

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Damn just saw Cody’s entrance. Looked like a megastar, big loss for AEW. Probably the biggest blow WWE could land on AEW to be fair.

[Ben Rodrigues]

Side note: WWE needs to stop editing themes when wrestlers win. I get DX with the long intro, but when Steve Austin won editing out the initial glass break. They do they same with The Rock - editing out the "If Ya Smell".

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think they knew exactly what they were doing with Austin/Owens. It was supposed to under-promise. They overdrlivered. If there’s a next time it will be more obvious what they are doing.

[XL]

I didn’t catch the whole show as I was watching it in bed. Woke up in time for Cody/Seth. Pretty perfect.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

have only watched Austin-Owens. Was fun. Honestly as good as (if not better than) a 1999 Austin match when he was super hurt and was just doing walk and brawls. At least Owens could bump for him. Happy he got to have his proper retirement moment.

[Fignuts]

So according to Bryan Alvarez, Ronda walked out on friday, when she found out she wasnt main eventing over Steve fucking Austin in fucking Dallas Texas.

I had hoped upon her return that perhaps time away to reflect, and becoming a mother would strengthen her mental countenance. But she still has the emotional sensitivity of a small child, and she does not belong in this business.

[Splaya]

So according to Bryan Alvarez, Ronda walked out on friday, when she found out she wasnt main eventing over Steve fucking Austin in fucking Dallas Texas.

I had hoped upon her return that perhaps time away to reflect, and becoming a mother would strengthen her mental countenance. But she still has the emotional sensitivity of a small child, and she does not belong in this business.

Ronda doesn't "understand" how the business works. She is good for marketing and is a star in her own right. But she never would have main evented the show if the show was anywhere in the world, especially since it was an Austin segment. But knowing that it was Austin's retirement match, WWE would have been CRUCIFIED if they put Austin's match on before Rousey's.

[Bad News Gertner]

Wow! 12/10 show.

That's how the Big Leagues do it AEW!

[#1-norm-fan]

Cody was a midcarder with a silly gimmick last time he was in WWE and then spent a few years in a totally irrelevant company with a bad booker and all of a sudden he’s a star. Weird.

[Bad News Gertner]

How can I miss you if you won't go away

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Cody was a midcarder with a silly gimmick last time he was in WWE and then spent a few years in a totally irrelevant company with a bad booker and all of a sudden he’s a star. Weird.

No you've got it wrong. One night in WWE made him a star. Not any of the previous groundwork that was laid. Definitely not.

[erickman]

No you've got it wrong. One night in WWE made him a star. Not any of the previous groundwork that was laid. Definitely not.

also they want mjf an others to come in, they better not do what they did to sting.

[Jordan]

I love it when wrestlers get upset backstage and leave.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wow! 12/10 show.

That's how the Big Leagues do it AEW!

AEW feels irrelevant as fuck right now. This was the right thing to do with Cody. Think about what Tony Khan would want. He’d be hoping for a mid-carded to show up and eat humble pie. By making the presentation work on the big stage, Tony now has no leverage with anyone except the most discontented.

They were always bigger and were going to be due to the mark presentation of AEW, but by playing it bigger AND better, AEW are left holding their dick. Brilliant.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don’t even buy the Ronda stuff. Maybe it turns out it’s true, but I’m just going to enjoy the ride with her and not let the out of touch dudes without contacts there anymore affect my interpretation. Love the idea of Charlotte beating her with a boot.

Charlotte needs something else besides just a lot of championships. It’s the quality of the reigns. That I can think of at least four people Charlotte has beaten at WrestleMania off the top of my head is…something. I think she might be the only other person besides Triple H to knock back multiple Royal Rumble winners too. It helps *her* feel like a big star, not just the title reigns.

And Ronda is more interesting losing too. She’s now got somewhere to go and something to climb. Shaking off the rust when she’s already champ is whatever it is. Now she can get into it with Natalya, Shayna or even Becky over on Raw and it’s interesting because she is in it.

[Crippla]

I also did not vote on this poll because I was pumped for WrestleMania but I am a loser who has no friends so I was torn on what to select

[Mr. Nerfect]

Conspiracy theory: When AEW’s deal with Time Warner is up, WWE make their own pitch to Warner Media for those slots. It’s headed up by Cody and the idea is to do a new WCW. Uses that IP they’ve got that is just sitting there and allows them to expand and block out even more of the sun than they already do. They can also try and get it on its own streaming services while WWE prime ties up others. It seems WWE have working relationships with Peacock, Disney+ and Netflix, but it does leave Paramount+, Amazon and even Apple out there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So weird that WrestleMania is two nights now. It’s a weird state to be in. I was buzzed about wrestling, but instead of needing to wait another year for WrestleMania…it’s tomorrow. Like having two birthdays. Or there being a whole other half to the video game.

I’m ruminating on what this WrestleMania “means”, but it’s context might shift completely in less than 12 hours now. But there’s this weird little state between both being in the books that lets night one stand on its own. Very cool.

[Lock Jaw]

Real interested to see how Bianca does from here...

Even winning the Rumble and winning the title in the "main event" of Wrestlemania (night 1), she was not really "established" as a star and would have had to be made a star whilst already champ. Instead they took the title off her and put in on a star and built up to their rematch at WM and now Bianca's win felt like a "star making moment" rather than just "a moment" like it was with her first title win. Time will tell if she can hang with Becky and Charlotte as the only two legit stars of the women's division....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Real interested to see how Bianca does from here...

Even winning the Rumble and winning the title in the "main event" of Wrestlemania (night 1), she was not really "established" as a star and would have had to be made a star whilst already champ. Instead they took the title off her and put in on a star and built up to their rematch at WM and now Bianca's win felt like a "star making moment" rather than just "a moment" like it was with her first title win. Time will tell if she can hang with Becky and Charlotte as the only two legit stars of the women's division....

I agree with this. Except I’d maybe be more generous to include a few more names in the star list, but I agree with your greater point and what it comes down to with Bianca.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Looking at night one in isolation: This has got to be the best WrestleMania in ages, right? One of their best. I think it might actually be #2 or #3 in terms of building my emotion throughout the show. Bit I wasn’t that pumped, but have left feeling really good about their product. But that’s just night one, lol.

In terms of overall quality? I liked WrestleMania XXX, but a lot of what made it cool didn’t matter right after it (and who knows how this one will hold up). Outside of Bryan/Triple H, Cesaro winning the Battle Royal, The Shield looking strong, the streak ending (in a pretty poor match) and the main event moment — I can’t really remember what else happened.

Seriously think this might be the best Mania they’ve done since…21? Am I sleeping on anything in there? And who knows how night one could help or hurt that position.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’ll be interesting to see how the crowd holds up tomorrow. Will they be buzzed and bringing it or burnt out and easy to disappoint?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really seems like they’re trying to make some of these people interesting. I want to see what happens next with so many of the participants in this show. Way more than I normally would be after a WrestleMania. They’re in “star-making mode.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, Logan Paul might end up being a regular WWE wrestler. What a fucking world.

[Evil Vito]

They announced New Day vs. Sheamus/Ridge was moved to night 2. So either one match is going to be very short or they've realized they need to cut down on some of the length of the video packages. Like why was there a five minute Lashley video package on a night he wasn't even wrestling?

They won't have to do stuff like introducing Gable Steveson or the HOF class either. The HOF thing usually takes all of 2-3 minutes but Undertaker stood out there alone for 5 minutes, because it's the Undertaker and obviously he was always getting a sustained ovation. They should have plenty of time to fit everything in tonight without all the extra stuff but we'll see.

[#1-norm-fan]

AEW feels irrelevant as fuck right now. This was the right thing to do with Cody. Think about what Tony Khan would want. He’d be hoping for a mid-carded to show up and eat humble pie. By making the presentation work on the big stage, Tony now has no leverage with anyone except the most discontented..

WWE literally had like a decade to build Cody and couldn’t do it. He left and came back a star ALL OF A SUDDEN.

Now let’s watch where he is in a few months. Lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

I presume they put the video packages of the people on night two on night one to promote them and give them a presence on each show. You’ll almost certainly see a night one recap to do the same thing for the people on tonight’s show tomorrow. And honestly, some of those trimmings is way more important than a New Day match right now.

It wouldn’t hurt if it was on the pre-show or something.

[Mr. Nerfect]

One of the matches that has me the most intrigued across the whole weekend is Austin Theory/Pat McAfee. I’m hoping that is something that catches people off-guard. I know how I would do the match, but we’ll see.

[Crippla]

WWE literally had like a decade to build Cody and couldn’t do it. He left and came back a star ALL OF A SUDDEN.

Now let’s watch where he is in a few months. Lol

He got a pretty enormous pop so hopefully they use him accordingly!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Night 1 had about 100 minutes of bell-to-bell action. Let’s look at night two:

Edge and AJ are probably getting 30 minutes right there. Cole and McAfee got 16 minutes for their Takeover match. It might be less here, but I’ll give them that. Brock and Roman may not actually need long, but it is what everything has been driven by. I’ll just block out 20 for that. Another 20 for the Raw tag. 10 for Omos/Lashley (and that’s being generous). 10 for Zayn/Knoxville.

That seems about right. But I’d be doing New Day on the pre-show so you don’t end up bumping them again. I’d rather the Raw tag get the perfect amount of time it needs than be rushed. Same with Theory/McAfee.

[xrodmuc316]

Cody was a midcarder with a silly gimmick last time he was in WWE and then spent a few years in a totally irrelevant company with a bad booker and all of a sudden he’s a star. Weird.

WWE literally had like a decade to build Cody and couldn’t do it. He left and came back a star ALL OF A SUDDEN.

Now let’s watch where he is in a few months. Lol

You are sounding an awful lot like the bitter Cultists on Twitter melting down over both Cody and the fact that K.O. Main Evented Wrestlemania while a certain failed MMA Fighter, Actor, Reality TV Competition participant, and comic book writer never did...

[Mr. Nerfect]

And when you think about the time that some of those matches could get tomorrow, and that you might get hit by Theory/McAfee, the Raw tag, Edge/AJ and Brock/Reigns all in a row? Fuck me.

This is the order I would do tomorrow night:

* Women’s tag. Gives the women the opening spot. They can go out there and get that focus instead of being middle of the show.

* Lashley/Omos. Probably not going to be pretty, but doesn’t need to be long and might have some sizzle. You don’t want this too deep.

* Zayn/Knoxville, which will be fun, but it isn’t meaty enough to need to go later.

* If you’re doing New Day vs. Sheamus & Holland, I’d do it here.

* Theory/McAfee, which is where things go from being “fun” to really, really good (I hope).

* Raw tag, which is hopefully going to be as good as I hope it is.

* Edge/AJ as semi-main, they’re going to do what they’re going to do.

* Brock/Roman to close the show.

Fuck me, that’s a pretty good card with a really strong flow to it.

[#1-norm-fan]

You’ll have to look for someone else to help with your “you’re a fucking idiot” masochist fetish, bud. I can’t be here for you 24/7.

[#1-norm-fan]

That being said “BUT CM PUNK…” ;)

[xrodmuc316]

You’ll have to look for someone else to help with your “you’re a fucking idiot” masochist fetish, bud. I can’t be here for you 24/7.

LOL bruh, it took you 3 minutes to reply to me, I think ill be alright :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Ok

[xrodmuc316]

That being said “BUT CM PUNK…” ;)

SMH come on, I didn't name him because it was just an example based off how much you were gripping over Cody. Cody being a bigger star in WWE BAD, K.O. Wrestles in a T-Shirt BAD, neither deserves it because they work at the bigger Company. BOO WWE, BOOOOOOOOO!

[Mr. Nerfect]

And forget even night two — Raw is probably going to be pretty stacked too. It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a big debut, some new programs starting and a guy like Finn Balor might get the chance to tear it up and wrestle that chip off his shoulder (if he’s even got one).

[#1-norm-fan]

Let’s see how many posts I can get from those two posts literally just stating facts.

[Mr. Nerfect]

We haven’t really discussed NXT in here, but I’ll put this in spoiler tags for anyone who wants to catch the show but hasn’t:

Bron Breakker didn’t win the NXT Title, so I’m pretty sure he’ll be showing up somewhere.

[Fignuts]

This is definitely shaping up to be a better wrestlemania than others in recent years. Seth vs Cody and Becky vs Bianca were the only matches that were truly great. Nothing was outright bad though.

[xrodmuc316]

Let’s see how many posts I can get from those two posts literally just stating facts.

Facts you say?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All those years ago CM Punk mocked Kevin Owens on the indies, made fun of him for wearing a t-shirt. 17 years later Kev is getting Punk's unrealized dreams: main eventing WrestleMania. A match with Steve Austin. And he's doing it in his t-shirt.</p>&mdash; Trevor Dame (@TrevorDame) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrevorDame/status/1510464009979379716?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Imagine being a guy like Danielson and seeing them do this show just after you leave. He’d probably find it funny, but a part of him has got to be like “Well, damn.”

[#1-norm-fan]

At 4 in less than 30 minutes. NOT BAD!

[Lock Jaw]

Confused now at which cultists xrod is against.... those seem to be pro-WWE cultists, where normally he is all about the AEW/Fed Bad cultists....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Facts you say?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All those years ago CM Punk mocked Kevin Owens on the indies, made fun of him for wearing a t-shirt. 17 years later Kev is getting Punk's unrealized dreams: main eventing WrestleMania. A match with Steve Austin. And he's doing it in his t-shirt.</p>&mdash; Trevor Dame (@TrevorDame) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrevorDame/status/1510464009979379716?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Don’t waste your time, man. He became an apologist for them a long time ago. He’ll say he’s not even the biggest AEW fan, but look at how quickly he tried to turn Cody’s return into a pro-AEW point.

This was a case where the audience, the presentation and the guy themselves managed to all come together to make something pretty much perfect. And yeah, a lot of it is the anticipation that they’d fuck it up, or it wouldn’t be as good as it could have been. But that’s what made it perfect and made him look like a star.

It’s not because he used a fucking song by Downstait or just because he came up from the stage. It’s because of where he did and why. And there’s that smell of him getting to do it his way. It’s not because he was made a star in AEW, ROH, the NWA or anywhere else. Yes, it’s a cute little way of presenting yourself, and he’s fine-tuned it outside of WWE. But it’s getting to do it there that made this, in this context, feel special.

And that makes #1-aew-mark feel uncomfortable, because the guys who aren’t his team not only did something right, but something his team can’t actually do.

The worst thing WWE can do to AEW is take away their crutch of “well, they might be bigger, but we’re better.” Because then they’ve got nothing. That’s why it felt like a “shots fired” moment. Because they did AEW better than AEW and that hurts deep inside when you’ve consumed so much of that Kool-Aid.

[Fignuts]

He just enjoys making sarcastic comments about wrestling more than he enjoys actually watching wrestling.

[#1-norm-fan]

He got a pretty enormous pop so hopefully they use him accordingly!

Missed this one.

I’m not holding my breath. They have a short memory for stuff like this.

He was the same guy he was before right down to the music last night but Vince is gonna wanna put his mark on the presentation. They may not go full Stardust but the charm of jumping ship is gonna wear off and Vince is gonna try to mild something of his own out of him.

[#1-norm-fan]

(At 6 now. Including one by a guy who’s “ignoring” me. Wowza!)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Confused now at which cultists xrod is against.... those seem to be pro-WWE cultists, where normally he is all about the AEW/Fed Bad cultists....

I try to stay off wrestling Twitter, but there are definitely people out there like #1-wwf-fan that are going to try and push narratives like AEW is the reason that Cody felt special. It’s just going to be the response when guys start leaving AEW to go back to WWE and do more relevant work.

[xrodmuc316]

At 4 in less than 30 minutes. NOT BAD!

Facts...

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[#1-norm-fan]

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[#1-norm-fan]

Confused now at which cultists xrod is against.... those seem to be pro-WWE cultists, where normally he is all about the AEW/Fed Bad cultists....

Cumdorx Bot 5000 malfunctions sometimes when it gets worked up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kevin Owens has got to be feeling pretty good about his decision to not take the truck AEW backed up to his house and stick with WWE.

Like seriously, he’s got to be feeling like $1 billion right now. He got to work Steve Austin in the main event of WrestleMania. And he got to talk and actually be the guy to challenge him. Probably can’t believe where he is.

[xrodmuc316]

7

How many replies can I get from Fan by just posting facts, AFTER he himself said he can't be here all the time to reply :rofl:

[xrodmuc316]

Kevin Owens has got to be feeling pretty good about his decision to not take the truck AEW backed up to his house and stick with WWE.

Like seriously, he’s got to be feeling like $1 billion right now. He got to work Steve Austin in the main event of WrestleMania. And he got to talk and actually be the guy to challenge him. Probably can’t believe where he is.

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[#1-norm-fan]

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[xrodmuc316]

8

Fan right now

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Let’s not derail this into an RIP AEW thread. We can use the AEW thread for that. But yeah, they aren’t the hot shit right now, even if that’s how the internet bubble tried to frame their niche product for a while.

If you like it, subjectively, fuck off and like it. I think it’s pretty terrible. Given a choice between Kevin Owens vs. Steve Austin and Kenny Omega pulling faces, I know what I’d rather watch. And I know what most other people even tangentially interested in wrestling would rather watch. And that gets confronting to nerds when they can’t pretend the WWE didn’t just hit a home run. With their bat.

[Fignuts]

Facts...

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So people are mocking punk because he's happy for kevin owens?

What?

[#1-norm-fan]

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Also, what the fuck do you hit home runs with other than a bat???

[Mr. Nerfect]

There are people who legitimately mock Raw for getting 1.8 million viewers and then champion Dynamite getting 900k like it’s an achievement and the more popular show. It’s crazy.

People are going to try and will their team to victory, I guess.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So people are mocking punk because he's happy for kevin owens?

What?

I’m unfamiliar with this story, but it seems there’s heat between Punk and Owens from their ROH days. People are just enjoying the schadenfreude of a dickhead seeing a guy he was a prick to do the thing he wanted to do and couldn’t.

This is the snap-back of all the “WWE Bad” stuff AEW does. They kind of walk into this by firing all those shots because when they look insignificant next to the WWE, it’s going to be noticeable.

[xrodmuc316]

So people are mocking punk because he's happy for kevin owens?

What?

I’m unfamiliar with this story, but it seems there’s heat between Punk and Owens from their ROH days. People are just enjoying the schadenfreude of a dickhead seeing a guy he was a prick to do the thing he wanted to do and couldn’t.

This is the snap-back of all the “WWE Bad” stuff AEW does. They kind of walk into this by firing all those shots because when they look insignificant next to the WWE, it’s going to be noticeable.


Naw they are mocking Punk because he flipped out over K.O. trying to make a joke. Don't let Phil's lie about K.O. yelling at him fool you.

fs0levsudGo

[Splaya]

For me, this was one of the best Wrestlemania's I've seen in a long time. Every match had a story to tell.

Sucks that Boogs got hurt but this is a chance to get Nakamura back out on his own and I hope the WWE has enough common sense to run with it.

Drew winning was always going to happen but now he gets a secondary "push" out of the match in that he is the only person to kick out of the End of Days. Will be a nice "stat" to feature in the future.

The Miz and Logan looked like stars. Paul could easily turn this into a career if he wants, but he's always been one to not really get a long with authority in mainstream media. I just don't know if Vince would want to invest with someone who just shoots his mouth off non-stop about unions being formed in their industry, etc.
(On a side note, if Dominic doesn't turn on Rey by Wrestlemania Backlash, you can put a fork in his career. While it's been a good run, he needs to get away from his dad.

Belair versus Lynch was just A+ in my eyes. Becky looks way hotter now with this haircut. Her and Bianca put on a show. Started early with them mirroring the SummerSlam finish, but settled into a creative and fierce war. Some of the spots looked painful as all hell. The only gripe I have is that I would have had Lynch kick out of the first KOD, only for Belair to immediately hoist her up and nail another one for the pin.

Cody's return was PERFECT. Even though it had been long speculated that he was coming back for the show, it was very well done. From the Pyro to "Kingdom" hitting, to Seth's reactions as he came down the ramp, to the actual match, it was so well done. Time will tell if they can keep this momentum moving forward with him, but last night laid the groundwork towards him being a main event player for years to come. Loved when Graves called out Saxton for saying that he was shedding skin of his past rather than showboating when he hit the cartwheel and acted like Stardust.

Rousey and Flair felt flat to me. If the rumors are true and Rousey walked out of the Hall of Fame Ceremony, I'd be interested to see if this was the intended result of their match all along or not. Was the plan all along for Flair to retain or did the actions of Rousey Friday night change the plan. In my opinion (and this will not be a popular opinion) but the boot to the face and pinfall is a burial. Sure she might get her rematch but in my eyes, it's like saying "Know your place in line. This isn't where you come here and act like a spoiled brat and cry and complain your way to main events."

Owens and Austin was amazing. For this to be Austin's retirement match was fantastic. At the very beginning, I was concerned because when he was stomping a mudhole in the corner , it looked like Austin wasn't in shape. Boy was I wrong. The suplex on the concrete floor was cringeworthy in the sense that you still were fearing for Austin's health. Still, a well drawn out match, and with how much Owens was touted as one of the safest workers in the company in the past week, they definitely foreshadowed that there was going to be a match.

Night 2 has an insane amount of emotion and match quality to live up to. If they can even match half of what was done last night, the night will be great.

The only question that remains in my head: Is rock coming back to close Mania and stare down Reigns and then a promo on Raw pulling the "booking next year's main event of Mania on Raw", or does Reigns come out and brag about beating Brock on Raw and say there's nothing left for him to do in the company, that's it's time for everyone to acknowledge me and then Rock's music hits.