AEW Dynamite - June 8, 2022

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AEW Dynamite

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Why are there only 5 guys in the battle royal...

oh it's a "Casino Battle Royale"

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this is a mess

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Feel like Keith Lee lost weight for like 2 weeks but now looks like 480 lbs again

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Where is every1 who usually watches........

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Anthony Bowens bit becoming annoying after doing it over and over and over...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Pickled tink at how much Billy Gunn loves the Acclaimed

[rez]

woolooloo

[rez]

*dips his fries into his Frosty* nom nom nom

[rez]

damn Hobbs is fast

[rez]

So...how's this work? The winner faces Mox to become the new champ but then will face Punk when he's healthy? Winner of that match is the unified champion?

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Swerve turning his back while standing near the ropes to look at Keith Lee for like 45 seconds

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So...how's this work? The winner faces Mox to become the new champ but then will face Punk when he's healthy. Winner of that match is the unified champion?

Winner of the battle royal faces Moxley TONIGHT on Dynamite

Winner of that match will go on to Forbidden Door to face the winner of a NJPW mach between "Tanahashi and Goto" and the winner of the match at Forbidden Door will become the Interim Champion

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So...how's this work? The winner faces Mox to become the new champ but then will face Punk when he's healthy. Winner of that match is the unified champion?

Winner faces Jon Moxley tonight. Winner or that faces winner of NJPW match (probably Tanahashi) at Forbidden Door for interim title

[rez]

ahh thx

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hoping for Hobbs or Starks or Andrade

Let’s go my team

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Is this all the guys? Who was the "wild card"?

[rez]

Hoping for Hobbs or Starks or Andrade

Let’s go my team

That's what I was thinking - as Starks got knocked out.

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Damn @ Wheeler Yuta possibly winning...

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Hope Andrade wins out of these guys...

[rez]

I came in late...was Miro a participant?

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I came in late...was Miro a participant?

no... bunch of midcard guys tbh

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missing Orange Cassidy

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oh god @ Yuta and O'Reilly left

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Imagining the ratings chart immediately "tanking" right now

[Jordan]

Where is every1 who usually watches........

Hey man I was late from work! I messed up real bad there and had to say sorry for fucking it all up Boss!

I just caught the last half of the battle royal, not bad.

[Jordan]

O'Reilly and Mox gonna be good, some blood prob.

[Triple A]

Thank god ur here brother

[rez]

Gawd. Punch Mox's ticket

[Jordan]

Yeah man I had to get on the boards ASAP. Gonna eat some chili tonight sup.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Moxley was always the best ambassador for AEW to do a proper build with NJPW

Way better than Punk if I’m being completely honest (I am)

[Jordan]

Mox is one of my guys so I'm down with him taking the ball while Punk is hurt. But what would really have interested me was Danielson and Mox fighting over that spot. That would probably be the best thing AEW could do right now.

[Jordan]

New Championship! Goddamn it's about fucking time!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh god not another title. Fuck off.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

New Championship! Goddamn it's about fucking time!

Fuck off.

[erickman]

new belt

[Triple A]

huh... @ "All-Atlantic Championship"

[Jordan]

All Atlantic Championship? I really like the name tbh. Confused as fuck though, if they are adding a title why it isn't a Trio's? And you know that it still to come making a grand total of legit bakers dozen or so titles featured on AEW.

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This match should be the best part of the show...

[erickman]

is that there Europe belt

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Is every1 in the tournament a non-American, went by too fast to see the bracket

[Jordan]

Is every1 in the tournament a non-American, went by too fast to see the bracket

Same I have no idea but it does seem that is the idea.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The thing I love about this matchup is you’d never see something like this in WWE

Only in AEW!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Now everyone hush I’m trying to watch this

[Jordan]

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Got home and promptly cooked dinner whilst watching the tail end of the battle royale.

Did I miss the episode of Julia Hart turning to the dark side?

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poisonrana always so scary

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Miro gonna snap PAC in two.

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National Best Friends Day?

Can someone confirm?

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Always sounds like Cash Wheeler has a bad cold when he talks

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TELL THEM WILLY BOY IS HERE!

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cool

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Sweet. The whole crew is here.

[Jordan]

Lot's of skin fades in the ring!

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Ospreay should have done a cooler move than an elbow to the head...

[Jordan]

Okay O'Reilly just won me over with his promo that was great.

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oh no @ Adam Cole doing commentary for the next match........ going to be clapping into the mic again for the entire match..........

[ClockShot]

Ospreay should have done a cooler move than an elbow to the head...

Hidden Blade is one of his signature moves.

[Jordan]

There are only about a dozen Japanese guys in New Japan these days.

[ClockShot]

This should be fun.

[Triple A]

very weird feeling Dynamite episode so far... not loving it.......

[Jordan]

The only way this deal makes sense for AEW is that Tony gets to "win" whatever numbers war happens at the PPV and that NJPW pays their own talent. NJPW is getting a huge rub from this deal where as AEW is just getting a shit load of more talent when they could have had a great PPV without anyone new at all.

[Jordan]

Hangman should be in the interim title deciders match point blank. He was the Undisputed Champion with multiple defenses and BARELY lost that match, and many times almost won. Bullshit. He better be getting an IWGP match at the PPV at least.

[Jordan]

Nobody knows who the fuck these NJPW ppl are.

[Jordan]

Really AEW should be making out on this deal. This was a relationship that would have been huge when AEW started but NJPW wanted to keep away for a number of years. Then covid prolonged whatever agreement was made.

[ClockShot]

Don't drink and fight. Or do.

I dunno.

[Jordan]

Where is Kenton? He's gonna have to watch DVR... smh he will probably read spoilers!

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David Finlay seems very average so far...

[xrodmuc316]

LOL @AEW making another fucking title!

Also, if Tony Khan is such a good booker, you would think he would realize most of his audience doesnt know nor give a shit about all these NJPW guys. Take 5 minutes to maybe explain who they are, lazy bastard (not Pac, Tiny).

[Jordan]

Finally a word from Hangman, our fucking hero for Christs sake!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hangman and Okada fuck yeah

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Fuck off Adam Coke get in a car wreck

[Jordan]

This feud feels natural like Bret/Shawn, Hangman/Cole. I think this could be one with a lot of chapters.

[Jordan]

Probably my favorite Adam Cole promo that I can recall because he wasn't using that fake pro wrestler voice.

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audio seems really fucked tonight !

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Probably my favorite Adam Cole promo that I can recall because he wasn't using that fake pro wrestler voice.

Yeah not bad... and only did the stammering thing 1 time :y:

[xrodmuc316]

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[Jordan]

Man this theme music is a headache, come on Tony give him something people love like We Will Rock you!

[Jordan]

I told yall asses that Wardlow was going back for the TNT.

[Jordan]

My predictions be bussin.

[xrodmuc316]

I dont want the world title, I want the TNT title!

Tony Khan demoting Wardlow to midcard title for no reason lol

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wardlow saying it’s time for a change in same city where Owen Hart was murdered.

Elite long term booking

[Jordan]

Tony Khan demoting Wardlow to midcard title for no reason lol

Nah man because with Punk the Champ out injured, the TNT Champion in hereby the top championship in AEW.

[Jordan]

Scorpio Sky is the top champion in AEW you guys.

[Jordan]

I think the All Atlantic Championship will be an anchor for the youtube shows in all likelihood.

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cool @ ladder match

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Super excited for the Bucks and Hardys to be in a ladder match. Worried Jeff is gonna die or maim somebody. Be safe boyz!

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maybe some sort of remix of "Bolero" would be cool for Wardlow... maybe not though... been listening to it in the background for the past 15 mins though

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why they keep putting Shafir in long matches... crowd just dies

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lol @ Stokely standing directly in front of Schiavone

[Jordan]

This is gonna be good

[rez]

Tony Khan demoting Wardlow to midcard title for no reason lol

but he *just* "signed" an AEW contract! ;)

[rez]

not giving this match a lotta time...

[Jordan]

Where is the BLOOD, GODDAMNIT we are like two hours in already and no blood? What the SHIT AEW?

[Jordan]

Anyone else thinking that AEW missing the mark by not having a Pride title? Maybe you could call it the PRIDE "Gay Threesome" Championship and it's a trio's title? What do you think?

[Jordan]

Or maybe "AEW GAY PRIDE THREESOME" Championship

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GAY (Get Asshole Yours) World Anal Championship (GAY世界アナル級王座, GAY Sekai Anaru-kyū Ōza)

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not giving this match a lotta time...

Feel like this post was 18 mins ago but was only 7 mins ago...

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I like how O'Reilly actually tries to counter stuff instead of sitting there and getting elbowed 15 times in a row

[Jordan]

GAY (Get Asshole Yours) World Anal Championship (GAY世界アナル級王座, GAY Sekai Anaru-kyū Ōza)

Lmao man... :lol::lol::lol:

[Jordan]

Well to me this night really showed me O'Reilly in a great light.

[Jordan]

Mox is the MAN. Probably my "favorite wrestler" if I was a "kid".

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Gotta remember how good KOR is outside of the Undisputed Elite nonsense. Tremendous talent.

[rez]

Feel like this post was 18 mins ago but was only 7 mins ago...

doh, my YT TV was behind. I musta paused at some point to poop or somethin

[Jordan]

Amazing Paradigm Shift.

[rez]

so so show

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That match was good!

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Show was not that good though!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah show was pretty mediocre for Dynamite standards.

[slik]

Catching up on Dynamite

Wish they kept the new set from last week

[slik]

Great showing for Wheeler Yuta

'eh' on Kyle O'Reilly winning battle royal

[slik]

I don't think AEW needs another title

[rez]

I don't think AEW needs another title

just the trio title like everyone wants

[slik]

Will Ospreay a VERY nice surprise!

[slik]

Hangman vs Okada would be a good match

[Vastardikai]

AEW: Introduces the All-Atlantic Title

Also AEW: has the flags of China and Japan on the Title.

#AEWTF.

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true

[slik]

overall just an 'ok' episode IMO

[rez]

Tony needs to keep expanding live venues. I feel like AEW can fill sub 500k population cities venues, easily.

They need to do more in the west outside of ppv and go home shows.

[Fignuts]

Ospreay should have done a cooler move than an elbow to the head...

It is literally his dumbest move. Dunno why he didnt just hit him with Stormbreaker. Way cooler.

[Fignuts]

Mid Atlantic belt looks gorgeous. Too bad its completely unnecessary.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why the fuck is AEW introducing another title? Also, lol at Kyle O’Reilly vs. Dean Ambrose as a main event.

Are people willing to admit it yet?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Haha, was Andrade really the joke?

[XL]

Mid Atlantic belt looks gorgeous. Too bad its completely unnecessary.

Came here to say this.

[Crippla]

Did not get to watch at all, can someone give me a quick sum up of whats going on please? I know I'm going to google it after anyway but this will be a lot faster atm as I have a few things going on rn

[Jordan]

The main event was really good. Obviously Tony Khan believes in Cole and O'Reilly a lot, they've had great pushes thus far. I've been resistant especially to Cole but last night he cut my favorite promo he's done yet and O'Reilly knocked it out of the park in two matches and a promo so he totally won me over as a main player for AEW. There were moments where he was believable to beat Mox last night.

[Crippla]

It sounded like a decent show, I wonder if they are waiting to build a program between Punk and Wardlow somehow. It seemed like kind of a hint from what I read. I'm guessing he will win the TNT title and kind of dominate until Punk gets back and most likely becomes world champ again.

[Splaya]

Osprey and main event was good. Didn't need everything else.

Feeling really Meh about Hardy and the Ladder Match. Convinced Khan is just trying to kill Jeff at this point. Guy was basically dead before this and now they are going to have him do a ladder match. Seems just rough.

Plus I don't want the Hardy's to win the titles on a random dynamite. Let it be at a PPV like All Out. So let the Bucks win.

[Crippla]

Not for nothing, I'm pretty sure Jeff is fully willing and probably wants to do a ladder match and take crazy bumps so I think he's probably just as much to blame for putting himself and others at risk

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not for nothing, I'm pretty sure Jeff is fully willing and probably wants to do a ladder match and take crazy bumps so I think he's probably just as much to blame for putting himself and others at risk

No doubt. But it’s not turning out with AEW or Jeff looking good.

[Crippla]

Jeff Hardy hasn't been "a good look" in a very long time lol but yes as the promoter, Tony should step in for the safety of his workers but hasn't this always been a part of the wrestling business? I mean Jeff Hardy can still have a match, I just think he should know his limits and capabilities and be sure he can protect his opponent. If he wants to hurt himself, that's fine, it's his body and his decision as long as he is able to protect those he works with that trust him with their bodies not to get seriously injured.

[Mr. Nerfect]

At this point, I think it’s counterproductive to the shows too. A lot of Hardy fans are turning in their badges, so to speak.

[xrodmuc316]

Did not get to watch at all, can someone give me a quick sum up of whats going on please? I know I'm going to google it after anyway but this will be a lot faster atm as I have a few things going on rn

Wardlow after being built as a monster culminating is his win against MJF, asked NOT to have a shot at the World Title because CM Phil is tough and the real champion, so the interim title is worthless, therefore he wants to go for the TNT Title instead, because that makes sense. Tiny Khan Booker of the Year.

Oh and they made a new title that only their foreign wrestlers want because, according to the announcers, AEW has fans outside of America and Tiny is an Innovator?!? Yes, they let it be known that the IC Title, European Title, NXT UK titles, NJPW titles, and countless other "International Championships" were all made up to copy Tiny "The Innovator" Khan, who came up with that idea himself.

[Fignuts]

The main event was really good. Obviously Tony Khan believes in Cole and O'Reilly a lot, they've had great pushes thus far. I've been resistant especially to Cole but last night he cut my favorite promo he's done yet and O'Reilly knocked it out of the park in two matches and a promo so he totally won me over as a main player for AEW. There were moments where he was believable to beat Mox last night.

Despite not having much of a personality, I've always liked O'reilly because the way he moves and executes manuevers just looks different from everyone else. And at the same time, he lays that shit in.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wardlow after being built as a monster culminating is his win against MJF, asked NOT to have a shot at the World Title because CM Phil is tough and the real champion, so the interim title is worthless, therefore he wants to go for the TNT Title instead, because that makes sense. Tiny Khan Booker of the Year.

Oh and they made a new title that only their foreign wrestlers want because, according to the announcers, AEW has fans outside of America and Tiny is an Innovator?!? Yes, they let it be known that the IC Title, European Title, NXT UK titles, NJPW titles, and countless other "International Championships" were all made up to copy Tiny "The Innovator" Khan, who came up with that idea himself.

It’s a fucking mess.

[XL]

It’s some really back-to-front booking. All of the guys they’ve put into qualifiers for the All-Atlantic Championship should have been featured in the Battle Royal for what’s being presented as = to the World Championship. Wardlow’s reasoning for not being in the Battle Royal somewhat buries the eventual winner of the Interim title, they could just have stuck him in the match and had the security team cost him the win to further that storyline.

The A-A Championship is completely unnecessary and non-sensical. Guess AEW’s mammoth roster is so they can represent the 130 countries! They are the number one brand in the UK though.* The belt itself is gorgeous. Can’t be the same maker as that thing Adam Cole is carrying around.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They’re missing a trick if they don’t put the AA Championship on Chris Jericho (CAN).

[Fignuts]

Dude is probably the most over babyface in AEW by a country mile and theyre sticking him in a program with scorpio fucking sky.

I had felt they kind of wrote themselves into a corner. Wardlow ends his fued with mjf and comes out of it with all the momentum in the world, but you cant really book him against punk because he'd have to lose. Which you don't want to do immediately after the mjf fued.

Punk getting hurt was the perfect oppurtunity to get out of this quagmire. Wardlow wins the interim title and maintains that momentum, and then a few months down the road, punk can win the unification match. By that time wardlow will have established himself as a top guy and the loss wouldnt hurt him.

[Splaya]

Jeff Hardy hasn't been "a good look" in a very long time lol but yes as the promoter, Tony should step in for the safety of his workers but hasn't this always been a part of the wrestling business? I mean Jeff Hardy can still have a match, I just think he should know his limits and capabilities and be sure he can protect his opponent. If he wants to hurt himself, that's fine, it's his body and his decision as long as he is able to protect those he works with that trust him with their bodies not to get seriously injured.

See I disagree. Yes he will more than likely do some moves in the match where he is slammed on a ladder or runs into it. But there is also going to be some points where Jeff will be doing something like Whisper in the Wind or something involving a ladder or weapon and if he's doing the move into someone with weapons being involved, I just don't think it's good for Jeff or the company. More specifically, the company. No one is convincing me that the way that Hardy has looked in the past couple of months that he is ready for a ladder match.

[Crippla]

I'm not disagreeing with you there but I'm saying Jeff is just as much to blame as the company for going out there and doing it

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dude is probably the most over babyface in AEW by a country mile and theyre sticking him in a program with scorpio fucking sky.

I had felt they kind of wrote themselves into a corner. Wardlow ends his fued with mjf and comes out of it with all the momentum in the world, but you cant really book him against punk because he'd have to lose. Which you don't want to do immediately after the mjf fued.

Punk getting hurt was the perfect oppurtunity to get out of this quagmire. Wardlow wins the interim title and maintains that momentum, and then a few months down the road, punk can win the unification match. By that time wardlow will have established himself as a top guy and the loss wouldnt hurt him.

I don’t necessarily disagree with Wardlow going after the TNT Title. I actually probably would have gone that route myself if I were booking. But it’s the how and the why that are insane.

It’s introducing another championship to water down all divisions. It’s him shitting on the World Title picture. It’s their reluctance to actually push him after being put in this position. He’s being given the TNT Title to keep him anchored, you can tell.

[Splaya]

I'm not disagreeing with you there but I'm saying Jeff is just as much to blame as the company for going out there and doing it

I agree with this statement 100%. But I don't think Jeff knows "when to stop"

[Fignuts]

I don’t necessarily disagree with Wardlow going after the TNT Title. I actually probably would have gone that route myself if I were booking. But it’s the how and the why that are insane.

It’s introducing another championship to water down all divisions. It’s him shitting on the World Title picture. It’s their reluctance to actually push him after being put in this position. He’s being given the TNT Title to keep him anchored, you can tell.

I think you could potentially go either way. My problem with the tnt title route is that its currently held by scorpio sky. Good hand and all but no one really gives a fuck about him. So it just seems a bit deflating to me.

Id prefer to see the rocket strapped to wardlow's back.

[XL]

Marina Shafir :|

[Splaya]

I think you could potentially go either way. My problem with the tnt title route is that its currently held by scorpio sky. Good hand and all but no one really gives a fuck about him. So it just seems a bit deflating to me.

Id prefer to see the rocket strapped to wardlow's back.

For being such a young company, they have to find people that they can "push to the moon". Wardlow seems to be that guy and because they would rather go with Moxley as the interim, it tells me that Punk might only be out 4-6 weeks. They have to strike while the iron is hot and letting him feud in the mid card will not work, especially with how much time they have taken to build him up.

[XL]

If Punk is out for 2 months they just don’t need to make an interim belt. Although if their World Champ doesn’t appear for a couple of months they’ll be accused of copying WWE.

[XL]

They’ve got another 13 championships they can feature.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Kyle O’Riley winning the battle royal was very disappointing. If they were going to go with someone a bit left field it should have been Hobbs. If they wanted someone believable in the main event then Darby or Andrade should’ve been given the win.

Oh no @ another title.
Oh no @ Adam Cole starting up a feud with Hangman Page again.
Oh no @ Adam Cole carrying round the Owen Hart belt
Oh no @ reading people saying they’re bringing in a trios championship?

It’s all too much. Losing interest.

[Crippla]

I don't see Punk being out longer than a month or two

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Get rid of the Owen belts - Adam Cole is horrible. The belts are too. Britt doesn’t need it.
Get rid of all the ROH belts as well as jay lethal and friends
Get rid of TBS title - they only have a handful of useful brauds. They should have just given Jade the streak to build her up, no title needed. They could be building towards Rosa vs Jade.
Get rid of the TNT title - it was so good at first. Cody, Brody, Darby and Miro built the title up well with open challenges. Sammy Guevara ruined it, Scorpio is ok but nobody cares.
Keep this new belt as the mid card title.
Don’t introduce any other belts.

[#1-norm-fan]

I wouldn’t mind this new “international” title if they rebranded the TBS Title as a US Title.

As it stands it’s not really necessary.

Also, I feel like they’re gonna feel obligated to make a Womens version for “equality”.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I think the hundreds of titles WWE had/have is part of what put me off them. A bunch of nobodies winning every title. Every single person on the roster some sort of former champion.

AEW going the same way unfortunately.

[Vastardikai]

I wouldn’t mind this new “international” title if they rebranded the TBS Title as a US Title.

As it stands it’s not really necessary.

Also, I feel like they’re gonna feel obligated to make a Womens version for “equality”.

The Tay Conti belt.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

No interest in this NJPW stuff either since I don’t know any of them.
I’m sure some of them are good but it’s tough to care about new people invading when someone new invades every week.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Craving Kenny Omega as champion with Don Callis coming out with him.

[XL]

I wouldn’t mind the All-Atlantic Championship if it offered something different. If it’s “only non-Americans can compete” it’s dumb. If it’s anyone can compete it’s dumb. Something like the Heritage Cup or ROH Pure Championship (but with better rules).

I’ve always liked the idea of using the Brisco 15 Championship from FCW: 15 minute iron man rules, perhaps with the flourish that if you defend it 15 times you can “cash in” for a shot at the World Title. You could tell a few stories with that. Feels a bit convoluted though.

Alternatively, you take the Heritage rules from NXT:UK and morph those a bit. 2 out of 3 Falls, you have to get a pin and a submission to win the match. This would be your “workers belt” and can be used as a bit of a “proving grounds” for talent. You want to position someone to be taken seriously, put them in the Heritage Division.

Or you just say the belt has to be defended every week…which makes it the TV Title.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I don’t want another title. With ask the ROH belts floating around it’s making them useless. The TNT title was fine. I think not hotshotting Wardlow into the main because Punk will be back in a few months is fine. Wardlow can start ripping through people and building up. But the international whatever belt is just too damn much. It’s not needed and it devalues the other titles.

[Sting Fan]

All the title angst is weird to me. I would be keen to see the ROH belts disappear off AEW programming to keep belt scarcity. And the Owen belts should disappear too but I don’t mind the new belt.

I didn’t catch though are Americans not elidgible for the belt?

[Mr. Nerfect]

People want their television to matter. This was the core argument to dickhead apologists like BigCrippyZ for months. “AEW matters!” No, it doesn’t. Adding another frivolous title is just further evidence of that.

[#1-norm-fan]

AEW probably matters to TBS who has the #1 show on Wednesday night in all of cable. Or does #1 on cable no longer matter?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

All the title angst is weird to me. I would be keen to see the ROH belts disappear off AEW programming to keep belt scarcity. And the Owen belts should disappear too but I don’t mind the new belt.

I didn’t catch though are Americans not elidgible for the belt?

My issue is more belts means more people carrying them and that takes away from it being special. I didn’t mind the TNT belt or the TBS belt, because I believe there needs to be a mid card/upper mid card title for either vets like Cody or Miro, who made the belt mean something, and help elevate young guys when they win it, like Darby or Sammy, even though Sammy flopped as a face.

Right now we have 2 world champions, 2 network champions, and tag champs. 6 people walking around with gold. That’s enough. Adding a 3rd title when the secondary belt is already on a placeholder champ isn’t going to add prestige to winning a belt.

A third title doesn’t make whoever takes the world title and current TNT champ Scorpio Sky look more special. IMO it just normalized carrying a belt. It’s the same issue with title overload I had with WWE when they were touting 2 world champs, IC/US champs, tag champs and women champs. It’s just too much.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can only assume you two are talking about how awesome AEW is. I agree. Very good show that America just needs to realize is out there. Then it will be #1 with a bullet. It’s so refreshing to see professional wrestling that doesn’t spit in the mouth of wrestling fans. Is it perfect? No. Nothing is. And people need to stop holding television to the standard of their childhood. Is it even possible to get an audience of over 1 million people who aren’t bots paid for by FOX and NBC?

Glad we have AEW. It’ll take about 50 years to undo the WWE’s horrible stain its put on culture, but each true match put together by the wrestlers who LOVE this business is one step closer. We’ll get there, pizza-cutter at a time.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oof

[xrodmuc316]

AEW probably matters to TBS who has the #1 show on Wednesday night in all of cable. Or does #1 on cable no longer matter?

You mean they have been #1 before, in one specific demo, not total viewers mind you, and even in that demo they have not been number 1 in 3 months.

I guess number 1 for a single episode every 3 months or so now means Mark's can use it to brag indefinitely.

Brag about being number one in a demo that lost 14% from the following week.
Yeah that is REAL good... https://i.imgflip.com/6jegr9.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

No. #1 in the same key demo that was always used for the “Raw is #1 for the night in all of cable!” derps. AEW did it it last week and does it quite often but it doesn’t matter apparently anymore. Gotta shift those goalposts.

It seemed you’d gotten a little smarter over the past week or two and stopped desperately looking for a “W” only to say something stupid and embarrass yourself. But alas…

Wanna talk about it now or nah?

[#1-norm-fan]

Forcing poor Noid to have to post an actual response to try to save face now ON TOP of his usual awkward “I’ll respond but just know that I’m totally ignoring you, k!” That can’t be good for the relationship.

[Sting Fan]

My issue is more belts means more people carrying them and that takes away from it being special. I didn’t mind the TNT belt or the TBS belt, because I believe there needs to be a mid card/upper mid card title for either vets like Cody or Miro, who made the belt mean something, and help elevate young guys when they win it, like Darby or Sammy, even though Sammy flopped as a face.

Right now we have 2 world champions, 2 network champions, and tag champs. 6 people walking around with gold. That’s enough. Adding a 3rd title when the secondary belt is already on a placeholder champ isn’t going to add prestige to winning a belt.

A third title doesn’t make whoever takes the world title and current TNT champ Scorpio Sky look more special. IMO it just normalized carrying a belt. It’s the same issue with title overload I had with WWE when they were touting 2 world champs, IC/US champs, tag champs and women champs. It’s just too much.

ROH belts should disappear unless there in an active angle over said belts and the Owen belts shouldn’t exist.

I honestly think if that happened one more isn’t going to make or break things. I am kinda anti trios belt for your reasoning though.

[Sepholio]

I wonder if njpw had Jay White win the IWGP title off Okada because Okada is gonna take an L at forbidden door?

[James Steele]

They aren't defending the Owen Tournament belts are they? It's better than the KOTR wearing a crown or whatever. It's making a big deal out of winning the Owen Tournament.

[#1-norm-fan]

I wonder if njpw had Jay White win the IWGP title off Okada because Okada is gonna take an L at forbidden door?

Every time I start to feel like getting more into New Japan, they Put the belt on Jay White. I don’t get it.

[Fignuts]

I think Jay White is deserving of it. They just never do a very good job of building up to him winning it.

I also would have preferred a longer reign from Okada.

[#1-norm-fan]

The only remotely interesting thing I’ve seen involving Jay White was when Josh Barnett was about to murder him in the middle of a match.

[xrodmuc316]

No. #1 in the same key demo that was always used for the “Raw is #1 for the night in all of cable!” derps. AEW did it it last week and does it quite often but it doesn’t matter apparently anymore. Gotta shift those goalposts.

It seemed you’d gotten a little smarter over the past week or two and stopped desperately looking for a “W” only to say something stupid and embarrass yourself. But alas…

Wanna talk about it now or nah?

What a MARK!

Check out the source...

https://showbuzzdaily.com/tag/wednesday-cable-tv-ratings

Kind of looks like they did it March 9th, then 3 months later on June 8th.

Can't let facts dissuade you from making the same rebuttal you always make though right? Something something goalposts something wanna talk something haha George from a show that ended 25 years ago!https://i.imgflip.com/6jfj95.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Listen man, I know the thought of trying to defend your bullshit man to man is terrifying for you but the written word is REALLY hard for you.

You should really consider at least getting someone smarter with a pair of testicles to pretend to be you. What do you say? Wanna ask someone else to talk about it for you?

[XL]

They aren't defending the Owen Tournament belts are they? It's better than the KOTR wearing a crown or whatever. It's making a big deal out of winning the Owen Tournament.

Not yet. But we’re about a month away from them becoming the Owen Hart Mixed Tag Team Championships.

[xrodmuc316]

Listen man, I know the thought of trying to defend your bullshit man to man is terrifying for you but the written word is REALLY hard for you.

You should really consider at least getting someone smarter with a pair of testicles to pretend to be you. What do you say? Wanna get ask someone else to talk about it for you?

One of us makes a false claim.
The other tries to correct them.
One of us lashes out with the same dumb response they use for everything.
The other provides the source material which shows the original claim was false.
One of us has no further counters, so he talks about reading and no testicles.

I have summed up every interaction we have had since I offended you by mocking your hero CM Phil.

No wonder you like him so much, you fail at everything just like him. Don't stub your toe in solidarity, you will probably mess that up and kick a hole in your wall, errr GOALPOSTS!!!!!!

[xrodmuc316]

Only this turd can make a claim on the demos, I give him the link SHOWING he is wrong (BTW https://showbuzzdaily.com/tag/wednesday-cable-tv-ratings), and then instead of admitting it, he doubles down and keeps being a doucher like the CM Phillip fan he is.

[xrodmuc316]

OH YEAH, WELL ILL SHOW YOU!!!
https://i.imgflip.com/6jgc9t.jpg


I am devastated

[Mr. Nerfect]

You mean they have been #1 before, in one specific demo, not total viewers mind you, and even in that demo they have not been number 1 in 3 months.

I guess number 1 for a single episode every 3 months or so now means Mark's can use it to brag indefinitely.

Brag about being number one in a demo that lost 14% from the following week.
Yeah that is REAL good... https://i.imgflip.com/6jegr9.jpg

AEW is #1, OK? Forget viewership, women, POC, advertising revenue — the number that matters is how popular you are with people 18-49. Because people 18-49 with cable in 2022, especially if they’re closer to 50, are the sort of influencers advertisers want to target. They give off Elon Musk musk. I mean, Dave Meltzer says so, and he only switched to that metric recently so it must be current information.

I’ve heard people point out that shows like Big Bang Theory and many others actually do better than it. Where’s that data, huh? Why doesn’t Showbuzz release charts about the Top 150 UNORIGINAL programs if they’re even important at all? Who cares if the ads shown in those slots reach more people from more diverse backgrounds with more expendable capital? It’s all about reaching 400k 47 yr olds with ORIGINAL programming. That’s all that matters. Not women. Not people actually willing to spend money. Not people who actually influence culture. It just so happens the number AEW does proportionately well in is the one that matters right now. Maybe next year it will be something else? You’ll just have to bear with us on that.

AEW rules, it’s super-successful. Anyone who denies that it is good for pro-wrestling is the same as someone trying to stop medicine from reaching the poor. All you do is post memes and hate on CM Punk, who is basically Fleming to wrestling, so that’s you TOLD.

AEW 4eva! (unless Warner Bros doesn’t appreciate what a gold mine they have an cancel it because they irrationally HATE wrestling)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Marks need to stop living in the 90’s and using old hat ways of thinking to measure a company’s success. Now here are the Nielsen demos…

[#1-norm-fan]

So we gonna care about the ratings or nah?

[BigCrippyZ]

:lol: The same folks who consistently claim ratings don't matter re: AEW, also consistently bring up Raw and SD numbers as legit and important vs AEW's numbers.

[xrodmuc316]

So we gonna care about the ratings or nah?

Clearly not since you are just going to ignore 85% of the Wednesday charts when AEW did not finish number 1 in the MUHDEMO, or is it just somebody here cannot read the March 15th - June 1st 2022 reports, hmmmm???

Hey Fan, https://i.imgflip.com/6jfj95.jpg

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[#1-norm-fan]

https://c.tenor.com/uVdH0TbO57IAAAAd/awkward-funny.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

:lol: The same folks who consistently claim ratings don't matter re: AEW, also consistently bring up Raw and SD numbers as legit and important vs AEW's numbers.

Trust the fake lawyer to completely miss the point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Clearly not since you are just going to ignore 85% of the Wednesday charts when AEW did not finish number 1 in the MUHDEMO, or is it just somebody here cannot read the March 15th - June 1st 2022 reports, hmmmm???

Hey Fan, https://i.imgflip.com/6jfj95.jpg

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AEW is the #1 show, OK?!? Even when it’s only #5 in original programming by demo, it’s still #1.

[xrodmuc316]

AEW is the #1 show, OK?!? Even when it’s only #5 in original programming by demo, it’s still #1.

That is #2(poop)Fan logic :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

https://c.tenor.com/1S_GOqoeFmwAAAAC/billy-madison.gif

[drave]

My take away is that he is calling Norm Macdonald poop..... which just won't stand.




1 month ban.

[Splaya]

I agree with this statement 100%. But I don't think Jeff knows "when to stop"

Does not know when to stop drinking either.