Diablo IV

[drave]

2023 - bitches. And, I can play with my PC Brothers in Arms (Looking at you Seph, Heisenberg).


Let's kill shit
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[Sepholio]

I am totes mcgotes down my borther. Signed up for alpha/beta testing for it a couple days ago. Fingers crossed.

Diablo is life. I am going to F2P grind my way to the top of Immortal. Thats how much I love Diablo.

[Fignuts]

Think by the time you manage that, Diablo 16 will be out.

[Tom Guycott]

I'm hoping (but doubtful) about this footage being how the footage looks - AS OPPOSED TO this being footage of a super cropped and zoomed screen, with minuscule font size HUD and no ability to change anything because it is assumed everyone will be playing this on a PC with their face a foot a way from a monitor even though it is also on console and folks will be sitting across a room from a TV on a sofa.

[Lock Jaw]

I remember I used to play the hayell out of the original Diablo.... good times.... didn't care for Diablo II when it came out though....

[Blonde Moment]

I remember I used to play the hayell out of the original Diablo.... good times.... didn't care for Diablo II when it came out though....

It is the best.

[Lock Jaw]

Which one

[Kalyx triaD]

Been playing this a lot.

[drave]

Yup. I have a lvl 51 Rogue in Nightmare and started a Necro, who is at 23 I think?


Going to have to do some grinding for my Rogue. He hits like a truck but is made of paper. I'm using the stabby rogue because bows typically don't interest me.


Necro is really strong. Unsure why there's people bitching about it, but they are probably the sweaty lvl 100's whining about "endgame" a week after release.


Endgame will need more to it, for sure. Right now, it does feel lacking. I don't mean the "meta" either, I'm not THAT far. However, it is just the same content with harder mobs, typical for Diablo. There just..... isn't much right now. As history has gone with this franchise, whenever they do release the expansion (probably a year from launch or so), TONS of stuff will be overhauled and added.



The campaign is a great way to propel you through the map and gives the player "direction".

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm doing it Wildlands and Division style trying to complete the first region before moving on. Doing a lot of side quests, dungeons, 2 strongholds of the three, ain't touch the campaign since finishing the prologue. Been playing about a week now and I'm at mid 30s with my electric sorcerer.

The combination of missing Marvel Ultimate Alliance and being impressed by the sheer scale and detail got me stuck on the game.

[drave]

Eh, as far as renown goes, you can do it "region style". However, the nature of the game has you all over the map, in random places, doing random activities based on where things rotate hourly.


If you wish to be efficient, get the story progressed to the point where you get a mount, then things are easier to do in that manner.


Or don't, it's Diablo IV. I've not searched out the Lilith statues or anything like that.... that shit seems tedious.


Lightning sorceress is the absolute best for leveling. I managed to get mine to 14 last night. Necro is rocking 27 I think?


They've done amazing things with this game. If you enjoy it now, it's going to be 100x better in the future. The game will dynamically change with the expansion, whenever that may be.


Glad to have you on board. 3 day weekend coming up for me, I'll throw out invites if I get a decent amount of time to play man. Co-op is definitely fun.

[Sepholio]

lol if you dont get the lilith statues and farm the renown to get the region unlocks first thing you are doing it wrong. Makes life so much easier for every alt you roll.

[Sepholio]

69 Necro btw. I thought I was strong too drave.

I was wrong. Heading into T4 and I to rework everything because my minions, even boosted to hell via paragon boards, are absolute trash now. The only function they serve is to be a distraction now. Running some of the harder content with others and I have sorcs, druids and barbs running around me eviscerating everything. It's lame. They need to fix minions build bad.

[Sepholio]

Oh and Unique items are absolute trash. They are below rares and legendaries automatically simply because they have set stats and you can't enchant them at all. Almost all of their powers are useless too. There are a small handful of them that people are going to want probably, like Deaths Visage for Necros, but most of them are going to end up instant trash when these should be the items that feel the most special and powerful.

Terrible itemization. It's the one area where this game took a significant step backwards from the previous.

[drave]

lol if you dont get the lilith statues and farm the renown to get the region unlocks first thing you are doing it wrong. Makes life so much easier for every alt you roll.




Eh, it isn't difficult at T1 or T2 - just another "time sink" for me. I'd rather just level up a bit, then make the rounds faster with my mount. Very well aware of how shit changes through tiers.


69 Necro btw. I thought I was strong too drave.

I was wrong. Heading into T4 and I to rework everything because my minions, even boosted to hell via paragon boards, are absolute trash now. The only function they serve is to be a distraction now. Running some of the harder content with others and I have sorcs, druids and barbs running around me eviscerating everything. It's lame. They need to fix minions build bad.


100p Necro minions are broken.


After getting to Nightmare with my Rogue, I understand that shit changes drastically. Within the first 30 minutes of T3, I was entirely re-equipped. Think RNGesus was smiling upon me, as I had a few Sacred Uniques drop that quickly too. Gonna have to rebuild or hope for the same luck..... as I just get 1-2 shotted by nearly everything. I know the same will happen with all characters.


Reluctant to start a Barb right now, a few aspects are dumb. Apparently Druid loot tables are also wank and dropping more barb stuff? I dunno. I just play the game, largely ignoring what "streamers" or "level 100's" are already whining about. Playing a Fire sorc, even though it isn't "the best" - it's just fun :D




This shit will be tuned so many times in the next 90 days, I'm not going to dedicate to one character or playstyle right now.

[drave]

Oh and Unique items are absolute trash. They are below rares and legendaries automatically simply because they have set stats and you can't enchant them at all. Almost all of their powers are useless too. There are a small handful of them that people are going to want probably, like Deaths Visage for Necros, but most of them are going to end up instant trash when these should be the items that feel the most special and powerful.

Terrible itemization. It's the one area where this game took a significant step backwards from the previous.




I think the sacred unique gauntlets I have synergize with basic and core skills? Something like, each basic attack enhances the damage of the next core attack by 30% or something. Memory is terrible.


I'm okay with them not raining legendaries or uniques like they did in D3. I also don't believe that drop rates should be as abysmal as they were in D2. Make the items make sense, as you stated.


I've not had enough time to dive in like that, so I'm just enjoying the casual leveling of whatever class I feel like playing that day.

[Sepholio]

That proc from those guantlets can show up as an aspect as well though. It's not a unique to that item even though its a "unique". Which is weird how some of them are like that. But given that it's an aspect it makes the unique useless. A rare with it added or a legendary with the proc is better at default because you can roll one of the stats off for something better for you.

[drave]

Gonna read a bit. Aspects you get from Dungeons are permanent and can be used repeatedly, yes?


Ones extracted go away after one use?


Those gauntlets were (and are) badass for my rogue right now. They were like.... +100 on god damn near everything I had equipped before. Granted, this was within 30 mins of beating T2 Pinnacle.


Speaking of that, I thought "man, I'm pretty good at Diablo games, bet I can do it at 44" when I first unlocked it.


Yeah no...... got smacked sideways SO many times. I came to accept the fact after I was barely even moving the boss's health AT ALL.


I've a ton yet to learn about "end game" stuff. Not even close to getting there, really.

[Sepholio]

You stuggled because of the level penalty. After 3 or 4 levels above you it gets bonkers. If you look at the area level and its red, you gonna die boy. Same thing happened to me in the T3 pinnacle trying to do it before 67. Way too much for my build to overcome.

Also yeah I have some gear that is way underpowered too but the stats it rolled are so damn near perfect I cant get rid of it until I get something that rolls at least 3 of the 4 stats it has.

The aspects from the codex can be used as much as you want with the caveat that they are ALL the minimum roll. The same aspect pulled off an item can be WAY higher as such. Lets you play around with them but u gotta find an item if you want to get a good version.

[Kalyx triaD]

45 now. Almost done with the first region. Still on tier 2.

[road doggy dogg]

I finally got talked into getting this after being relatively lukewarm on it (despite being a huge Diablo 2 fan and enjoying D3 as well).

Game is pretty fun. I am annoyed at how crappy it runs on my laptop which is only like 2-3 years old. Gotta play this shit on medium settings like a pleb

[drave]

Got my barb to 45...


Weeeeeee. Spin 2 win..... for now.

[drave]

You stuggled because of the level penalty. After 3 or 4 levels above you it gets bonkers. If you look at the area level and its red, you gonna die boy. Same thing happened to me in the T3 pinnacle trying to do it before 67. Way too much for my build to overcome.

Also yeah I have some gear that is way underpowered too but the stats it rolled are so damn near perfect I cant get rid of it until I get something that rolls at least 3 of the 4 stats it has.

The aspects from the codex can be used as much as you want with the caveat that they are ALL the minimum roll. The same aspect pulled off an item can be WAY higher as such. Lets you play around with them but u gotta find an item if you want to get a good version.




Yeah yeah. I was slamming shit 4-5 levels higher all game til that pinnacle. Got put in mah place.


Loving tje post-beta barb. Around level 35 the game started shittong legendary items like they were going outta business. Ended moving to a ww deathblow build. Soo fun right now

[road doggy dogg]

re: my previous post, seem to have sorted out some of my performance issues. Nvidia DLAA has been a big help

Been playing a bit between a Sorcerer and a Necromancer. Just got my first enchantment on the sorc, makes enemies I kill explode in fireballs, causing delicious screen-clearing chain reactions. Fun times. Reminds me a bit of playing the old Exploding Palm build for Monk in D3.

[Sepholio]

They are gonna have to rework the end game. Being able to get BIS loot at 70ish is bad. I am at 81 now and the upgrades I could farm for are so rare and so miniscule that they are hardly worth it. I could solo level 90 world bosses with ease in the event no one else showed up. I can face roll that super elite in the hell tides with the biggest health bar in the game, Kixxarth or whatever it's name is. The abomination in PVP goes down in less than a second. It's whack. I'm basically just grinding for rare cosmetics/mounts and trying to find the cow level now. You can clearly tell WT5 was originally part of the game and that there was supposed to be a 4th tier of items above ancestral and they pulled it back for some reason. They need to implement it soon to give the high level people something to do before they get bored because NM dungeons aren't enough considering they are like the same 10% of dungeons over and over again and will still be that even after they get buffed next patch.

[Sepholio]

Also even if you like pushing higher tier NM dungeons, you can tell even they are balanced with another tier of gear in mind. You will get 1 shot from off screen non stop even with BIS gear and max level well before you get close to the high end of NM dungeons tiers. Like sure, you can one shot them too, but when the game devolves into either you or the enemy off screening the other one in every single encounter then clearly the balance is off somewhere.

I have a feeling season 1 will alleviate alot of this because I bet that's when WT5 comes back into play. But I'm starting to feel like they should have started season 1 at launch. I get wanting to iron everything out before starting seasons because of the paid battlepass, but if things are wonky for the first few weeks you can always just extend the 1st season to compensate.

All that said, if there a bunch more uniques and they were more compelling I'd still feel the drive to gring too. But shit. I've got multiples of the ancestral version of almost every unique for my class already. I can count the items I haven't seen on one hand. 10 years into diablo 2 and there were far more items than that that I never found. FAR more. And I was still trying too because of it.

[Sepholio]

Betting WT5 comes back and I bet they have a tier of "Ancient" items. And if they don't call WT5 Inferno then they are doing it wrong.

[road doggy dogg]

Sounds like early D3 where you were expected to utilize the real money AH to get any sort of progression. Hellish

[Sepholio]

Its not at all like that. There were items to be found in that AH obviously, and thus, in game. There was something to work towards. Here there are no more items to really grind for. There aren't any to buy either. There's just paragon levels and a one in a billion chance of finding an item that might be 0.1% better.

[Sepholio]

I can't imagine how lame it is for people playing some of the other classes that can't match the sheer might of the necro as easily. Already capping their gear and in a battle with a giant pack of elites and a random necro like me walks by and fires off 2 right clicks and everything disintegrates. At least I get to feel like a wrecking ball while I look for the 3 relics to drop in the Ked Bardu fountain.

[Sepholio]

Oh another example of necro being OP af is that you can make a build that you can literally afk the game with. Use minions, get the extra minion aspects, stack as much thorns on gear as possible, summon minions, stand somewhere where enemies spawn constantly. Everything will get obliterated by the thorns and you'll never have to lift a finger.

[road doggy dogg]

Had my first encounter with the Butcher last night, right as all the server fuckery was going on.

rip my first hardcore baby

[drave]

They are gonna have to rework the end game. Being able to get BIS loot at 70ish is bad. I am at 81 now and the upgrades I could farm for are so rare and so miniscule that they are hardly worth it. I could solo level 90 world bosses with ease in the event no one else showed up. I can face roll that super elite in the hell tides with the biggest health bar in the game, Kixxarth or whatever it's name is. The abomination in PVP goes down in less than a second. It's whack. I'm basically just grinding for rare cosmetics/mounts and trying to find the cow level now. You can clearly tell WT5 was originally part of the game and that there was supposed to be a 4th tier of items above ancestral and they pulled it back for some reason. They need to implement it soon to give the high level people something to do before they get bored because NM dungeons aren't enough considering they are like the same 10% of dungeons over and over again and will still be that even after they get buffed next patch.




My highest character is 54, and a Barb. I dunno wtf happened with this rare weapon drop, but it was WAAAAAAY over the ilvl of anything else I had. Suddenly, I 2 shot everything in WT3 (except bosses, obv).


I feel the endgame grind though.... even though I haven't hit WT4. Whispers. Helltides, and MAYBE a World Boss (so far, only 1 encounter for me, due to timing and stuff). There definitely needs to be "more".


Unsure if I need to get a couple better weapons on my rogue, but good god the barb is uber-unga with 2x bunga after that 2H mace drop. It's nothing special either, just really high dmg.


I've gotten all the altars in 2 of the locations, 90% done with a third. It's a fucking slog and I hope they never make players repeat it.

[Sepholio]

Yeah I need a 2 hander for my necro. One thing I'm missing. It's actually insane I'm managing to do the damage I am with a wand and a focus, but due to not having a 2 hander with the right rolls it comes at the cost of forfeiting resource generation that I sorely need. I can dish out massive damage but I can't sustain it for long without mobs. Bosses that survive my initial burst lead to me walking around regenerating for about 20 seconds before hitting them in the mouth again. Will be very happy to fix that problem.

[Sepholio]

Actually have a 2 hand scythe that would work right now, high ilvl too but I want a sword lol. Scythes are 10% slower attack speed.

[drave]

4 day weekend this upcoming weekend. Think I'll muck around with a Necro..... maybe try to improve my Rogue, probably rebuild it altogether maybe.


Why not both. eff it.

[drave]

Played last night after changes.


The changes are very apparent and feel gooooooooood. It's not overpowered, but it definitely makes cutting down hordes more digestible. Lack of activities still sucks. I wish they'd add endgame Strongholds, those were a lot of fun. In a way, I guess that's kinda Helltides but without a "story" being told or whatever.


Season 1 will probably have more stuff. I did a Helltide and 2 complete sets of whispers and just..... couldn't anymore :(

[Kalyx triaD]

Still clearing three levels of renown in each region before finishing the campaign and going to Tier 3. Sorcerer is 53. Made two other sorcerers to build into single elements, 20 and a 17.

[drave]

Fire sucks when you get to the part of the game that "matters" (meaning where ANYTHING can actually drop - lvl 85). Frost Nova will be a "must have" skill right now, for the time being.


Right now, campaign is the beefy part of the game and really keeps things "flowing". Endgame is kinda a bore, or maybe I just need to change characters. Didn't wanna do that though, with Season 1 looming within the next 4 weeks.

[road doggy dogg]

I'm nowhere near endgame in this and kind of bored/meh on the game so far. Surprisingly, the story is the most engaging part to me so far (far cry from Diablo 3 IMO). Maybe it's just 'cause my build sucks or whatever, or I'm just one of those cranky boomers that prefers Diablo 2. Who knows

[drave]

The campaign is incredibly engaging, more so than any other Diablo game before it. As soon as you finish it, you're looking at:


World bosses - fixed spawn timer
Whispers - think of these as "bounties" from D3
Helltides - zone wide "bounty" that are timed to 60 mins and there are chests in the affected areas


Legion events - these are the most fun IMO. Buncha adds spawn in a small area you have to roam around a bit. They are public events which allow for a lot of players. After cutting down trash mobs, there are 3 (I think) mid-bosses and then an actual boss. These have been the best source of XP and loot from a time invested / reward perspective.


There's also "Nightmare" dungeons which add random affixes. You have to get mats to make them I believe. I've not gotten that far yet...... because all the events above (except legion) feel same samey when playing.


Feel like they're holding back a bit of content for the seasonal stuff. Time shall tell I guess.

[drave]

Happy about the XP buff though. Think I am MAYBE 57, and it feels like such a slow ass grind. That'd be fine in a MMO - which this is NOT.

[Sepholio]

The buff on XP is super noticeable when you get to nightmare dungeons. In the mid 80s and can gain a whole level (full, not just a paragon) in about 6 or 7 dungeons at most now. So much better. Gaining a level was several hours of hardcore grinding before this. No longer feel the need to farm cellars using the reset glitch finally.

[Lock Jaw]

Original Diablo still the best.

[drave]

No.

[Lock Jaw]

I guess I never played 3 or 4 to know for sure, but I'm sticking with my guns.

[road doggy dogg]

I feel like 2 improved upon everything 1 did in any meaningful way. Everyone welcome to their opinions, of course.

[Lock Jaw]

Honestly I don't remember too much, I just remember playing the F out of 1 and then feeling like 2 just made it "too complex" and got away from "the point"

[road doggy dogg]

I think 1 is best for the spooky/"horror" atmosphere, for sure. From a gameplay/"systems" standpoint though I think 2 improved a ton of what 1 did.

It's definitely more complex than 1 but I feel after playing 3 (too simple IMO) and games like Path of Exile (way too fkn complex), 2 hits the sweet spot.

[drave]

1 is definitely great. At the time of release, it was Truly Great.


2 - Everything RDD said. It was ROUGH for the first 3-6 months as far as "end game" and the expansion pack gave that game added an entire fooking decade of life to it. it also rad(doggyDawg)ically changed the gameplay by introducing synergies between skills.


3 - the former lead designer of the Legion WoW expansion, Jay White, was lead design on 3. The game was VERY dumbed down in terms of skill selection and bonking. The "artificial difficulty" came with Torment difficulty (which was the top tier at launch). The loot tables were fucked and you couldn't get gear good enough to be able to survive. Corpse walking became a regular method of progression.


There's a ton more that I think most people forget was added from the expansion.


https://www.ign.com/wikis/diablo-3/Reaper_of_Souls






4 - Right now it feels like a mix of 1 and 2. Gameplay wise, definitely 2. There are a TON of intricacies that go into skills and how that shit works, kinda like 2. The atmosphere and campaign are reminiscent of 1. End game is sorely lacking right now, but will improve with both Seasons, and an expansion down the line.



The expansion was tremendous for this game as well, from many standpoints. Feel like they fell flat with the Crusader (Paladin-lite, the Diet Coke of Holy - just a lil faith, not quite revenant enough!). The addition of Act V and core design changes were very needed and welcomed. The changed loot tables though, made the game WAY too easy eventually.

[Sepholio]

Diablo 3s original top tier difficulty was not Torment. Torment was a change made down the line.

The original was Inferno and it was far too hard, far harder than Torment ever was. You would go from 1 shotting diablo in Hell to getting one shot by skeletons in act 1. Its like going from Hell to Torment 10+ instantly.

[drave]

It was pre-expansion. Fucking eat me out

[road doggy dogg]

D3 vanilla Inferno difficulty was something else. Combined with the horrid drop rates of high-end gear and the prevalence of the RMAH it definitely felt like they were trying to funnel people into a P2W type game. It was bad all around.

RoS fixed a ton of what was wrong with vanilla D3. I respect that not everybody likes this gameplay loop but I really enjoyed the Rifts/Greater Rifts system of pushing higher numbers as best you could. Later seasons in D3's life had way too much power creep for my liking though, and people would be pushing GR150 within like a week of ladder reset which was a bit too absurd for me tbh. I like that "the top end" is achievable by anyone but at least make it take some amount of effort to get to.

Like I played Witch Doctor almost exclusively in D3 (was my fav class) and in late D3's lifespan it was like... "wear this set and the set bonus is 10,000% increased damage on x skill", funneling everyone into cookie-cutter/meta builds. Very blah.

[road doggy dogg]

I will say though, for whatever shortcomings D3 had (and I say this as someone who enjoyed the game as a whole, largely), the Switch port of it was nothing short of phenomenal. Impressive that it performs so well on that hardware.

[Sepholio]

NM Dungeons in 4 are greater rifts for all intents and purposes. Dungeons that you can push higher and higher, up to a tier 100, that have random affixes added onto them to change game play a little bit. Now that you can teleport straight to one as soon as you open it, it may as well be called a rift.

And just like rifts, with the right build and aspects you too can run level 87 in 4 minutes!

[Fignuts]

Started playing this.

Went with rogue. Was focusing on poison, but I've respecced into shadow. Doesn't do as much single target damage, but holy shit does it crowd control.

[Wehttam]

is there a secret cow level

[Kalyx triaD]

Started playing this.

Went with rogue. Was focusing on poison, but I've respecced into shadow. Doesn't do as much single target damage, but holy shit does it crowd control.

Saw you on and was gonna join with my new Necro but had to jet outdoors.

[Sepholio]

is there a secret cow level

Short answer: Yes, there is. But no one knows how to trigger it yet.

[drave]

Started playing this.

Went with rogue. Was focusing on poison, but I've respecced into shadow. Doesn't do as much single target damage, but holy shit does it crowd control.




Same. Shadow melts later with Twisting Blades. Currently 60 clearing anything in Nightmare without a sweat. I think the highest NM Dungeon key I have is 14? Also melting.


Rogue is very fun. One of the most "active" melee classes in an ARPG I've played. Not just unga-bunga, but a fancy unga-bunga.

[drave]

62, gonna go fuck around in the Tier III Capstone Dungeon. Unsure about the boss, but I'm fairly confident I can at least clear all the trash.


Rogues are sick.

[Fignuts]

I'm doing it Wildlands and Division style trying to complete the first region before moving on. Doing a lot of side quests, dungeons, 2 strongholds of the three, ain't touch the campaign since finishing the prologue. Been playing about a week now and I'm at mid 30s with my electric sorcerer.

The combination of missing Marvel Ultimate Alliance and being impressed by the sheer scale and detail got me stuck on the game.

This is how I was doing it at first, but I soon realized I'd be doing the campaign for an eternity at that pace. I'm a good bit into act 3 and at level 47.

So far I haven't really gotten into build crafting on the gear and gems side just because I'm still getting better equipment pretty frequently, but now I'm stuck on this Nilcar boss fight and I think I'm going to have to look into using the right gems and aspects to win. There have been some tough fights, but nothing I can't handle. This guy is some dark souls level bullshit however.

[drave]

Couple tricks to him. The main one being his stupid ass machine gun spell shit he uses. Hew pew pew's dark stuff from his hands that are very hard to see. Like, a lot of them. Those things will delete you so fucking fast.


When he starts summoning the adds, that complicates things. What was successful in the end was dodging those dark bolts he fires off, burning down the add, repeating that until it was 1v1 again.


Really, the 1st boss fight that highlights the importance of positioning.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, his attacks are easy enough to avoid. It's the elite ads with their gimmick bullshit, all in a small space thats the problem. I can get him to about a quarter health, but by that point I'm out of potions.

I think im going to add that barrier aspect, and respec into dark shroud for increased survivability. And maybe switch from shadow to poison.

I love that respeccing is so cheap that its completely viable to do it for a single fight.

[drave]

Yeah, his attacks are easy enough to avoid. It's the elite ads with their gimmick bullshit, all in a small space thats the problem. I can get him to about a quarter health, but by that point I'm out of potions.

I think im going to add that barrier aspect, and respec into dark shroud for increased survivability. And maybe switch from shadow to poison.

I love that respeccing is so cheap that its completely viable to do it for a single fight.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wsHG_qmQNVo/maxresdefault.jpg
It is so fucking tedious and expensive at endgame :( LOOKING AT YOU PARAGON BOARD! (one.node.at.a.time)



They are in desperate need of a "loadout" or similar system. Though at the same time, they want gold to be "important" so respecs get expensive later and that might go against their design.

[Fignuts]

That sucks. Until then, WHEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Sepholio]

I have no idea what drave is talking about with it being expensive at end game. I'm rolling in so much gold that I could do 1000 full respecs.

There def needs to be a refund all button though because it is for sure tedious doing it point by point.

[Sepholio]

Rerolling gear is the real gold sink.

[Kalyx triaD]

Main character is 60 and I'm having a crisis in Tier 3 where I know I have equip stronger gear but I'm terrified I'll never see my gear build again. I'm riding it til the wheels fall off.

[drave]

^

Same spot. Started the Tier III Capstone dungeon late last night. I thought I was 62, but I'm only 60.


Easily got to the boss, wiped him down to about | | and got 1 shotted. I imagine it is because I'm "underleveled".


Entirely possible to take him out and get to Tier IV, just gotta dance a bit. Then hopefully the better gear starts.


I have no idea what drave is talking about with it being expensive at end game. I'm rolling in so much gold that I could do 1000 full respecs.


You also play a shit ton more than I do. For me, I do not have a ton of time nor gold nor mats. I believe I have 3 million at this time.


Gold sinks:


Upgrades
Aspects
Enchantments
Respecs


All gets very expensive very quick for an "average" player, IMO.

[Fignuts]

I like that there is a lot more content to seasons in D4. Could never really get into seasonal play in d3, as they never really added enough where I felt engaged.

[drave]

Season Mechanic

The Season of the Malignant special mechanic is the addition of Malignant monsters. Once you have completed part of the beginning of the Season Story questline up to the point that you have gotten the Cage of Binding you can start finding Partly Corrupted enemies which are a type of Malignant Monster, upon defeating them a Malignant Heart will drop and you will use the Cage of Binding on it to spawn a Fully Corrupted enemy. Once defeated it will drop a Malignant Heart that will correspond to the type of Malignant Monster it was. These Malignant Hearts can then be socketed into special colored sockets in Jewelry.
This season will introduce 6 new Uniques and 7 new Legendary Aspects. As we get more info on them we will post them here and be ready for our amazing build writers to update and create new and exciting builds with them!
You will inevitably end up with extra Malignant Hearts you don’t want to use and the good news is you can salvage them into crafting materials that will allow you to create Invokers that you can use in Malignant Tunnels to target farm specific colors of Malignant Hearts.
Malignant Tunnels are special dungeons in the world that will be highly replayable and will have a much higher chance for Malignant Monsters to spawn, they are also the only place that you will be able to find the new boss that is being added in this season Varshan the Consumed.



eh, this sounds similar to Destiny 2 seasons, which can be very hit or miss. it is about on par with D3, honestly. There'd be a "theme" a new "pet", for a while, new sets, and yeah.


Could be great. They gotta fix their nasty loot issue tho.

[Sepholio]

I love that respeccing is so cheap that its completely viable to do it for a single fight.


It is so fucking tedious and expensive at endgame :( LOOKING AT YOU PARAGON BOARD! (one.node.at.a.time)


You also play a shit ton more than I do. For me, I do not have a ton of time nor gold nor mats. I believe I have 3 million at this time.


You said it gets expensive at end game. You are like level 60 in tier 3. You don't know what the end game is. You can get more gold than you have total in like 5-10 minutes in WT4. Anyone can.

Also a full level 100 respec including paragon costs about 400k. You could do that 7 times over with your 3 million already. How is that expensive?

Upgrading the highest tier items to level 5 costs 120k. It's not like you will be fully levelling items very often, especially at end game when it gets nigh impossible to find better items. How is that expensive when I make enough (and I'm not true end game, there are people pushing way higher NM and uber lilith) in 5 minutes to upgrade 2 full sets of ancestral uniques?

Same with aspects. You should really only be holding onto ones that are perfect or close to it, and even then it's very rare you need to pull them off and use them at end game because you already have them. The cost is already negligible and infrequently needed.

The ONLY gold sink is enchanting high level items multiple times. That's it. I don't know why you are seemingly bothered by someone who is higher level and more knowledgeable about the game trying to tell you how end game actually functions instead of you just guessing because you haven't experienced it.

[drave]

I am in no way bothered, that's silly.



For me, where I'm at, it is expensive subjective to what I have. I expect that to be the same for anyone - subjective to them.


I expect "endgame" to be just as much, if not more with how much I like to throw builds around and have fun.

[Sepholio]

And I'm telling you that as someone who has thrown builds around, made multiple fully upgraded sets of gear, has every aspect available from drops...gold is meaningless once you get to WT4 for anything other than enchanting. You will find yourself with gear sets for any build you want pretty quickly and then it will become the slog of the 1 in a million chance to upgrade a single item by a few points on something. All you'll be doing is hoarding a never ending supply of gold because you already have everything. One run through a t4 nm dungeon will get you enough trash rares to sell that youll have gold to do multiple full respecs.

Mats are so plentiful that I already have more than I would need through season 20 even if I never get another mat again.

This is not subjective. Gold is plentiful in ENDGAME. Where you aren't. When you can do a full respec and gear set after every dungeon there is no way you don't have enough gold. Unless you stop every 2 minutes to do a full change, you will have enough gold. And if you play like that you are probably the only person on Earth who does.

In regards to the T3 capstone boss one shotting you, it is absolutely because of your level. Nothing you do will change that facet of the battle until you get at least to 65, and realistically 67. There is a level difference penalty at play there. However, that penalty doesn't apply the same to your offense. You just need to kill it faster or like you said dance around. This is the same battle that made me respec from minions to bone spear. I went off and farmed a half ass set of gear to upgrade for a few minutes, respecced, and I one shot the boss. Within an hour of going to T4 I was already at the point that I either 1 or 2 shot every elite/boss in the game outside of world bosses/ubers.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seph I would have expected this kind of candor from you over this game, but speaking as somebody with lots of experience explaining my fave franchises to newcomers and casuals getting deeper into a game:

Your tone, word choice, and argumentation is exactly what makes core game communities completely repulsive. And it always surprises me that the more niche the game is, the more obnoxious the high level playerbase becomes.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some of you guys played fighters and shooters with me, not in a million years do I come off this way no matter the skill gap.

[Fignuts]

eh, this sounds similar to Destiny 2 seasons, which can be very hit or miss. it is about on par with D3, honestly. There'd be a "theme" a new "pet", for a while, new sets, and yeah.


Could be great. They gotta fix their nasty loot issue tho.

It does remind me of destiny, but thats what I mean. To my memory, Diablo 3 seasons added new mechanics like the malignant theme, but besides that, it only shifted the meta with balance changes and gear updates. It didn't update the game with new features, stories, maps, enemies, etc. the way this new d4 season is described. It seems far more ambitious, and I appreciate that.

[Sepholio]

Yeah this season is at least equivalent to whatever the best season of Diablo 3 was in terms of mechanics alone, not even counting the new levels/story missions. Diablo 3 seasons were like OH LOOK DOUBLE GOBLINS.

[Sepholio]

I'm more concerned with what happens at the end of season 1. Do they fold the malignant stuff into the base game if its good and people like it in the way Path of Exile does? Or do they wipe the slate clean and its gone forever and replaced with some other mechanic next time?

If they don't at least add some of these features from seasons to the base over time then things will get stale much quicker.

[Sepholio]

Oh and Kalyx? Me giving people correct information for the game so they don't base things off of incorrect knowledge is what makes communuties repulsive? You can take that shit and shove it. Drave felt the need to change my name in his quote for some odd reason because I had the gall to say that he was wrong about end game because I actually know. I'm not gonna sugarcoat my explanation of why he's wrong because it hurts your feelings.

I don't know how you act in fighting game threads, ftr, but the difference here is I know you know more about the game than I do so if you gave me advice I would listen to it, not argue with you about it.

[Sepholio]

Thinking back more on D3 seasons, there were a couple times that they added in new tile sets for rifts, which I guess you could count as a new level if you wanted. Not sure that was with seasons though. Think some of it was done in regular patches around the time of the Necromancer DLC.

[Fignuts]

From what it sounds like, they're going to play it by ear and keep stuff around that players are receptive to, and wipe the rest.

[Sepholio]

Yeah I saw where they mentioned that. Hoping it's true. Obviously they'll have to either tone down some of the mechanics for a "base" version addition and do balancing so that power creep doesn't immediately take over and make the newest mechanic the only one that matters, but as long as they do something with it I'll be happy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nobody's arguing about it and you'd be perfectly valid calling me out if I couldn't drop knowledge without an attitude, correct info or not.

[drave]

And I'm telling you that as someone who has thrown builds around, made multiple fully upgraded sets of gear, has every aspect available from drops...gold is meaningless once you get to WT4 for anything other than enchanting. You will find yourself with gear sets for any build you want pretty quickly and then it will become the slog of the 1 in a million chance to upgrade a single item by a few points on something. All you'll be doing is hoarding a never ending supply of gold because you already have everything. One run through a t4 nm dungeon will get you enough trash rares to sell that youll have gold to do multiple full respecs.

Mats are so plentiful that I already have more than I would need through season 20 even if I never get another mat again.

This is not subjective. Gold is plentiful in ENDGAME. Where you aren't. When you can do a full respec and gear set after every dungeon there is no way you don't have enough gold. Unless you stop every 2 minutes to do a full change, you will have enough gold. And if you play like that you are probably the only person on Earth who does.

In regards to the T3 capstone boss one shotting you, it is absolutely because of your level. Nothing you do will change that facet of the battle until you get at least to 65, and realistically 67. There is a level difference penalty at play there. However, that penalty doesn't apply the same to your offense. You just need to kill it faster or like you said dance around. This is the same battle that made me respec from minions to bone spear. I went off and farmed a half ass set of gear to upgrade for a few minutes, respecced, and I one shot the boss. Within an hour of going to T4 I was already at the point that I either 1 or 2 shot every elite/boss in the game outside of world bosses/ubers.


Yeah, did it at 60, solo, in under 10 seconds. Running around in Torment with everything at 73+ is...... fun.

[Fignuts]

Simping for Lilith the whole campaign because this world is full of assholes. Getting accosted by the church immediately afterwards just validated me.

LILITH WAS RIGHT

[drave]

Yup.


Very interested to see the DLC and where they go with it. Or I guess they are doing the story thing via campaign. Still - cool.

[Kalyx triaD]

I had a hard time seeing what exactly she was wrong about if there are in fact way worse demons than her and humans did need to level up. But like MCU Ultron she couldn't help herself being needlessly petty and murderous for reasons that did her no favors.

"My ex is an asshole and not worth your worship. I'm also literally the only demon who doesn't want to eat, enslave, or genocide you. My dad and his brothers will return eventually and I happen to like this world. So I want to teach all of you magic and how to loosen up a bit. Now drink this."

Roll credits.

[drave]

Oh and Kalyx? Me giving people correct information for the game so they don't base things off of incorrect knowledge is what makes communuties repulsive? You can take that shit and shove it. Drave felt the need to change my name in his quote for some odd reason because I had the gall to say that he was wrong about end game because I actually know. I'm not gonna sugarcoat my explanation of why he's wrong because it hurts your feelings.

I don't know how you act in fighting game threads, ftr, but the difference here is I know you know more about the game than I do so if you gave me advice I would listen to it, not argue with you about it.




Silly man. I changed your name to Seph42069 because sometimes, the quote function is broken, so I manually copy pasta posts and put a name in there for reference.


42069 - because immature humor..... unless that has something to do with the endgame meta I'm not yet aware of. :wave:

[Fignuts]

Going to begin the arduous journey of collecting all the lilith alters. Heard some people say its a such a slog that it turned them off the game for a little while. Those people also did all of it in one shot. I plan on spreading it out. Do one area a day, mixing in dungeons, sidequests, and strongholds I haven't yet completed. So long as I get it done before season 1 starts, I'm good.

[drave]

It isn't terrible, but I wouldn't want to do it "in 1 sitting" either, for sure. Depending on your guide of choice, you can zip through each zone in ~15 - 30 minutes, notwithstanding any that would require you to have a stronghold done.

[Kalyx triaD]

Me and my bud had one hell of a Helltide run. He just got to Tier 3 so it was a lot of running around but he was tanky enough coming into it that he wasn't two tapped into respawn.

I am happiest with my lightning build than I ever been with a solid gameplay loop. I nearly reconsidered using two basic attacks in one loadout but that lightning super state rocks with the pimp slaps, especially with the thunder balls orbiting me.

Got a bunch of stuff saved for my other Sorcerers so I need to get them higher but no rush there.

[road doggy dogg]

feel dumb, p much already gave up on this game lol oops

[drave]

Eh...... there's good shit there, but there's also a lot left to be desired. I shouldn't talk tho, I'm only in T4, but way early.

[Fignuts]

This pussy ass tree of whispers refuses to give me the glyph I need. Wish there was a chainsaw build.

[drave]

I thought glyphs only came from running Nightmare dungeons? I dunno, maybe not. I get a ton of them from running NM dungeons though.

[Fignuts]

I wasn't sure if my build was optimized enough yet for running those solo. Guess I should just try one and see.

[Kalyx triaD]

Glyphs seem to drop from everywhere for me. Tree people, Nightmare Dungeon, Helltide.

Nightmare Dungeons are not as crazy as they sound, it just adds some modifiers to shake things up.

I wish those Tree Head missions gave an extra point each. Kinda draggy.

[drave]

Right. Think of them as Greater Rifts from D3, but with modifiers. Some of them can be pretty shitty depending on your class.


You get a quest to craft your first sigil..... which just made me realize.....




Sigil or glyph? Sigils are the things used to make a dungeon a NM dungeon. Glyphs are the cool things that you add to the paragon board.


https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/guides/paragon-glyph-guide/


^
There's a PrettyBasic glyph guide.


Here's a PrettyBasic NM Dungeon guide


https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/guides/nightmare-dungeon-guide/

[Kalyx triaD]

Path I got going really got me stinging the monsters, though I don't have burst potential until I find bonus top offs for a particular ability.

If anyone else is in Tier 3 me and my bud might be running Helltide later.

[drave]

Ran the Nightmare Capstone dungeons for 2 friends who were mid 60's. Took a few attempts as things are stronger when grouped, but I did it.

[drave]

@Kalyx and Fig


Let me know if you need help with that dungeon, I keeeeel stuff fast.

[Fignuts]

Are you talking about the level 70 capstone? Heisenberg and friends ran me through it yesterday.

[Kalyx triaD]

@Kalyx and Fig


Let me know if you need help with that dungeon, I keeeeel stuff fast.

I'm mid 60s now. I'll give it a go when I'm closer to 70. Crafted some Tier 10 Nightmare Dungeons that should be interesting.

[drave]

Are you talking about the level 70 capstone? Heisenberg and friends ran me through it yesterday.




Ah okay. I'm never on when they're on anymore :-\:-\:-\:-\

[drave]

I'm mid 60s now. I'll give it a go when I'm closer to 70. Crafted some Tier 10 Nightmare Dungeons that should be interesting.




I got to a point where I wasn't getting any new gear from anything (think the highest NM Dungeon I've done thus far is 17).


Weapons are over 700 item power (great when I got them) which had some great stats and were the start of me deleting mobs.



I 100% expected to get wiped at level 60, but I did not. Expected to get slammed harder with a 3 person group, but solo'd that shit again.


Enjoy and good luck. If you find yourself lacking, send me an invite. My notifications are suppressed, so it might be a minute.

[Fignuts]

Leveled from 63 to 66 in a couple hours. So glad someone took me through the capstone early and unlocked tier 4, because xp gain in tier 3 is glacial at this point.

[Kalyx triaD]

Tried the capstone solo and started getting 1 shot by a jerk after opening the third path. Gonna level up more before diving in again.

[Fignuts]

I can try it with you tonight if you want. I have to be careful, but thanks to all the ancestral gear I've got, I don't get one shot, and I can shred through elites.

[drave]

Can still stab things for you as well..... quite easily tbh. The only portion that will suffer will be the boss, and that's just because he can still one shot me.


Still level 62.... maybe 63? Didn't get a ton of time to play.

[Kalyx triaD]

We beat it. Now I'm bullied in the open world again.

[thekrow]

https://i.imgur.com/20SgWbT.jpg
I need help with this new World Boss he keeps hitting my character on the head with toasters

[Fignuts]

Is that the new Hep C class?

[drave]

Hep C cannot crit - it's a DoT

[drave]

Patch Notes link


https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23964909/diablo-iv-patch-notes


I was going to embed, but that's a lot.

[drave]

On paper, it looks pretty bad :(

[thekrow]

Patch Notes link


https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23964909/diablo-iv-patch-notes


I was going to embed, but that's a lot.


Azurewrath (Unique Sword): Lucky Hit - Your Core Skills have up to a 20% chance to Freeze enemies for 3 seconds and deal 0.75-1.5 Cold damage to them.


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[Fignuts]

On paper, it looks pretty bad :(

The big one thats going to upset people is the scaling adjustments for low level players getting carried through high level content.

[Fignuts]

My build got nerfed pretty hard. Probably needed to be though, if I'm being honest. Only challenge I was getting was when I joined my level 93 friend in nightmare dungeons.

[Fignuts]

Not that it matters at this point, with the new season starting.

[Sepholio]

Patch nerfed the absolute shit out of me -_-

[Sepholio]

V glad I'll be starting a new character now tbh. Looks like Necromancer is going on the back burner for me until they do more adjustments other than the typical Blizzard tactic of nerfing good things to put them back in line with the shit things.

[Fignuts]

My rogue build debilitates crowds with poison, slow, and daze, while doing huge damage with penetrating shot w/ trickshot aspect.

Thing is, the damage from penetrating shot relies on multiple crit and vulnerable perks. Both of which got nuked.

[Sepholio]

Yep. Crit and Vulnerable nerfs alone killed me and yet they still nerfed some of my skills/aspects on top of that as well.

The more I read the patch notes and look through the little details, the more I realize this patch is absolutely abysmal. They should just roll it back and apologize at this point.

[Sepholio]

I'm just pissy because it seems like they fucked my build the absolute hardest

[Sepholio]

Druids also took a pretty hard hit though

[Sepholio]

uhg added damage to CC got nerfed too damnit.

[Sepholio]

lol Blizzard going to have a campfire chat Friday to address all the backlash the patch is getting.

[Sepholio]

-Fixed an issue where players were unintentionally experiencing too much fun

[drave]

Twisting Blades still works well, Fig. It was nerfed for sure too.... but still doable.


I have a sorc in the 30s. Was doing a 100% lightning build and it was chugging along. It was pretty shitty when I played. Switched to Frozen Orb (thought I saw elements got a buff, I dunno) and there was a BIG difference. I didn't do anything different than before, but vuln was proccing a shit ton more and I was destroying shit with frozen orb like it was D2LOD all over again.


They completely missed the mark with it tho..... Friday's lil chat should be fun, though I see it being more of a "Nerfs will continue until morale improves" type shit.




Blizzard - It's Nerf, or Nothin'!

[Sepholio]

"We decided to have this campfire chat to address concerns from the community regarding the changes in the latest patch. To that end we want you all to know that we definitely hear you and just wanted to pass along that everything is working as intended. Thank you and good night."

[drave]

lololol, yes.






If it isn't that, it's that they promise they'll do better, we just have to wait til next quarter

[drave]

Apparently characters cannot enter WT4 until 70?


That's a very dumb decision.

[Sepholio]

What? Where did you see that? That's insane, although considering the penalties to bonus exp, it doesn't really matter as much as it did before. But seems dumb to have it locked behind a capstone dungeon and a level requirement.

[Sepholio]

I really bet they try to explain away a lot of the nerfing by saying it's because the seasonal mechanic would have made everything way too easy without the nerfs. Which I can to an extent understand that argument.

The problem is that you also just fucked all the people who have no intention of playing seasons that won't have access to those new mechanics to compensate.

[drave]

I can understand it to a degree as well, but punishing the players is DEFINITELY not the way to go.


I think they have a ton of tuning to do in terms of core functionality. I know you've seen the BL2 comparisons of slag with vulnerable.... and it's kinda true. They should better tune the mobs to account for what the players have discovered to do. They did that, but also made players tons weaker.


I have no idea what to expect from it all, especially Friday. Given the nature of gaming the past few years, I figure things will begin to "feel good" around Season 2 or 3, I dunno.


I tend not to "play meta" and just play what seems fun. So long as I'm having fun, I'll keep playing.





Re: level locked difficulty.


Let me go find where I read that and I'll come back with an edit.


Apparently it is from people on the PTR who were attempting to power level and ran into this block. So I would say "take it with a grain of salt" but between it getting traction and the patch we got.... I'm inclined to believe it.

[Sepholio]

I don't view vulnerable as slag, but I get the comparison. To me it's just another status effect. It's no different than "%increased damage to slowed/chilled/stunned enemies". Seems really fucking dumb to nerf it when there are so many other things that function similarly that were left alone. It's literally just penalizing people who chose that status effect over cold or stun.

[Sepholio]

In fact it seems like it would be the dumbest one to nerf because it's the only status effect that doesn't have an extra benefit other than the increased damage. Poison does damage, cold can do damage, slow and freeze, etc. The only benefit vulnerable has over the others is that it seems to be easier to initially inflict.

[drave]

For some classes, it's stupid easy to inflict, others.... not so much. it is why many "meta" sorcs take frost nova.... because it has a guaranteed vuln proc. I'm with you though, I tend to go for x to whatever status effect I'm built for.



There are a lot of players who have "done the math" and vuln is 100% on top of the list for everything. I dunno, I don't have time for all that shit, nor to read a 300 row Excel workbook. So I'll read what I can and do my best with it.


My rogue definitely hitting a little softer, but still seems usable without any major build reworks. My barb on the other hand....... yeah, he's gonna need a rework. I used HOTA (I didn't know it was bugged) with the aspect that makes it.... you know viable (because lil AoE) and it just sucks. It isn't HOTA itself, but the resource generation / expenditure loop just isn't there to be efficient.

[Fignuts]

I understand the nerf to vulnerability as it is overwhelmingly good, to the point where most builds heavily implented it. It's still very good, too.

[Fignuts]

The problem is they did all these nerfs without making buffs to anything else, and simultaneously making everything slower and more tedious with all the leveling changes.

[drave]

The problem is they did all these nerfs without making buffs to anything else, and simultaneously making everything slower and more tedious with all the leveling changes.


This 10000000%


Builds being broken in any ARPG or MMO-lite is a common occurrence when there are big patches. This just felt like a blatant slow-down across the board with no real reasoning behind it other than "slow down y'all".


That, plus one of the devs stating "play other games if you're bored" ANNNNND the most egregious of changes:


Making exit dungeon cast take longer.





FEELS like they're artificially making the game take longer, without any sound reasoning.

[thekrow]

Official Patch Notes:



[-Fixed multiple issues where players were having fun

-Fixed multiple issues where the sorcerer wasn't already weak enough

-Fixed multiple issues where players were excited for season 1

-Reduced player base by 70%

-Increased time spent with your family by 30%

[drave]

So.... rolled a Rogue and started it up. Think I'm level 18ish.


The new aspect which allows for the spawn of a taunting shadow clone that explodes when you use a subterfuge still is OP as fuck. Not sure how taunting will work on higher tiers..... but if there aren't higher levels of resistance on mobs...... this shit is great.


Dash in, poison trap (which taunts), dash out, move on to the next mob because poison trap + the shadow explosion aspect melts shit.


Again, going in blind to what stuff exists, other than the "malignant hearts". Running through the season journey to see what stuff they are rewarding players with and might make new characters based on the aspects.


It is definitely slower though, and that can feel.... well not fun at times tbh tbh tbh.


Also interested in the fireside. Given they rolled back level requirements to get into T3 and T4 in less than 24 hours, I wanna be cautiously optimistic. I don't see shit changing for Season 1, obviously, but perhaps season 4-5 will be good, lol.

[Kalyx triaD]

Running a Sorcerer thru the seasonal, building out an alternate thunder build I used for while when I first started playing. About 15-16 now and so far so good. Getting better drops for these levels than before that synergize easier.

[Sepholio]

I already beat the seasonal questline. It was going good but way too short. Was shocked it was over as soon as it was.

[Sepholio]

They have SIGNIFICANTLY buffed the world bosses. Do not go in there expecting business as usual.

[Sepholio]

Got a heart that auto triggers equipped corpse skills on any nearby corpses. Got another that auto triggers the decripify buff (no need to have the skill or even equipped) as an aura around you for 17 seconds any time 4 or more enemies get near you. Trying to do a hybrid minion/bone spear build this time to compensate for the loss of survivability and this thing is a godsend. Just put corpse explosion on the bar with my summons and bone storm. No longer have to focus nearly as much on resource generation for the spears because the heart just constantly uses the corpses which generates for me. And it prioritizes by order in your skill bar I'm guessing because it will stop corpse exploding and resurrect minions as soon as they fall before going back to exploding. Mad fucking useful even if the build doesn't do nearly as much damage as before. If I get overwhelmed the auto curse aura makes everything weaker and more susceptible to damage in a wide area around me too. Lovely stuff.

Interested to see how useful the auto corpse skill is when minions fall off and I ditch them and switch out corpse explosion with the corpse vines.

Also on the livestream they said another patch is incoming week after next it looks like. 10-14 days from nowish. Major focus on buffing barbs and sorcs so if any of you roll one there is possibly a hint of light at the end of the tunnel now. Will address skills, aspects and items for those classes in particular. That's not all that's in, but that's the centerpiece of it. Another stream next friday at 2 and they will unveil the patch notes then. Said they will get patch notes out several days, possibly a week in advance going forward so they can get feedback before implementation.

[Sepholio]

lol respec costs getting nerfed by 40% after they stealth raised them at some point. Went from costing like 400k to like 8 million for paragon alone lol. 5 million is better though. It'll be under 10 to respec everything after the nerf at level 100, which is like 30-45 mins of play at that level to earn. Not terrible.

[Sepholio]

Should just go back to those cheap costs that they were initially though just in case they decide to fuck the game again and make everyone reroll -_-

[Sepholio]

lol people have already cleared all the content and gotten to level 100 in the season. On hardcore. Jesus.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Has anybody had problems joining groups? Any time I answer a summons it says "an Error has occurred."

[Sepholio]

you on console or PC? I'm on PC and I've never had that issue.

[Sepholio]

Oh yeah, pro-tip for the season. When you get to level 40 and can claim the first smoldering ashes (think its tier 8 reward, its used to upgrade seasonal buffs) there is a possible bug that will show itself. Some people never even get it when they claim it. I got mine but didnt apply it immediately and exited the game figuring Id do it when I logged back in. When I came back the smoldering ash was gone and I couldnt claim it again. Don't worry like I did though. Shut bnet all the way down, not just the game, and relog and it will reappear and be available for use.

[Sepholio]

Thats for PC, dunno if it happens on console, but I imagine a restart would achieve the same results.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

you on console or PC? I'm on PC and I've never had that issue.

XBox-S

[drave]

Check your profile settings for privacy on your profile in addition to your NAT type.


I play on Xbox and have never had a single issue with both PUG's and friends.

[Sepholio]

Welp I just cleared tier 90 and got the last seasonal reward. Full cosmetic set/mount looks pretty sick. Wish it took longer or there were more tiers or something though.

If you have amazon prime, go to the prime gaming D4 page and the new reward for this month is 4 free tier skips. Be warned it is instantly applied and will automatically skip you 4 tiers ahead as soon as you log in the game. I was already about to finsh tier 88 and just claimed it thinking it was something you could hold on to and use in a future season if you wanted and when I logged in it completed the battle pass for me. Ah well.

[Bad Company]

Finally finished the main quest, game gets a lot better as it goes on, but shit the dialogue and speech acting is weak. Also I'm not sure if I actually enjoy this game, or if it's just grinding all day. I'm waiting for starfield.

[Fignuts]

Playing druid this season. Used a companion build for leveling, which was fun but now I've got a werebear build. Using pulverize and trample to just smash and throw mobs around like im the fucking juggernaut. Great fun.

[drave]

Fig.


I am sorry for not responding to your invite. I had been playing for my allotted dad time of 30 minutes and was in the process of putting down the younglings. After which, there was copious amounts of sexy time and then I passed out

[Kalyx triaD]

So we're getting vampire type powers next season. Would that be a class or gear buffs?

[drave]

Just more aspects, I'd imagine - and they will disappear and no longer be available at the conclusion of S2, just like the new aspects for S1. It's a shame too, so many of them are fun additions that introduced new ways to play.


A new class (maybe classes) will not be until an expansion.




5 new bosses
A new seasonal quest line (S1 questline was shit, not holding out for S2)
Gems no longer take inventory space
Stash is searchable


probably some reskins too. Oh yeah, and ofc more cosmetics for PREMIUM battlepass.




I'll be playing Starfield anyway. D4 is fun, but overall has largely disappointed me. I tend to maybe play it for an hour before boredom sets in.

[drave]

So Barbarians feel like they're in a good spot now. Started a "new" one out of boredom and being sick a couple days and got to mid 20's.


Whirlwind does damage now, that's neat.

[drave]

Started a Season II Barbarian last night.

I gotta say, the changes they've made to mobs and damage feel really good. I can actually kill stuff at a decent pace as a new character, and leveling finally feels "good". I played for about 60-90 minutes and made it to level 20.

The seasonal powers are kinda interesting too. Essentially, there are 3 different power archetypes, and you get so many "slots" on varied pieces of armor. So long as you have x amount of archetype, you can use that class of power. There are consumables that add specific archetypes to armor, which is pretty good.

Allegedly there are a ton of late-game improvements as well. Might stick with with a bit more than I have in the past if it keeps rolling along like it is. Actually very interested to see the different bosses and shit to do, late game.