AEW Dynamite 7/6 Live Discussion: Mox/King, Sky/Wardlow - for the titles!

[Jordan]

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[xrodmuc316]

So stupid for Wardlow to want the TNT instead of the World Title. I can't wait for Austin Theory to cash in the MITB Contract on Gunther for the IC Title...

[Jordan]

Wardlow valuing the TNT Championship builds value for the audience. Long gone are the days where the IC Champion actually came just behind the World Champion, and AEW has attempted to build the TNT to that level. Not successfully but it's worked at time. Wardlow is a guy you can really build up with the secondary championship. After a long run everyone will say "when is it time for Wardlow to get the big one"?

I guess you think he's ready for that now but he isn't. AEW main events have to deliver big time, that's the culture that's been built at least. Wardlow has to build up something a lot more special to get that spot. He's headed there, and even in the ring shows that he could one day hang with the likes of Omega, Mox, Jericho and Hangman but he's not quite there yet. Leave him with a strong gimmick and the TNT and see what happens over the rest of the year.

MJF though, he's ready for that spot.

[#1-norm-fan]

I’m guessing they made it a street fight so that Sky could have Ethan Page and Lambert and possibly a plethora of angry security guards can interfere and basically make it a handicap match to make it competitive.

Either way, looking forward to Wardlow smashing through some little people.

[xrodmuc316]

Wardlow valuing the TNT Championship builds value for the audience. Long gone are the days where the IC Champion actually came just behind the World Champion, and AEW has attempted to build the TNT to that level. Not successfully but it's worked at time. Wardlow is a guy you can really build up with the secondary championship. After a long run everyone will say "when is it time for Wardlow to get the big one"?

I guess you think he's ready for that now but he isn't. AEW main events have to deliver big time, that's the culture that's been built at least. Wardlow has to build up something a lot more special to get that spot. He's headed there, and even in the ring shows that he could one day hang with the likes of Omega, Mox, Jericho and Hangman but he's not quite there yet. Leave him with a strong gimmick and the TNT and see what happens over the rest of the year.

MJF though, he's ready for that spot.

No no, the character Wardlow's own logic was why would he try to win the interim World Title since it doesn't even matter, even though everybody else including Moxley treat it as important, but the TNT title, the one used as a prop for Sammy and Tay, that title is SUPER IMPORTANT to Wardlow, because reasons.

That is what is stupid, the logic of it.

[Jordan]

He wants the TNT Championship because when he had his chance at it, MJF screwed him and Scorpio regained his championship. Wardlow knows that he can squash Sky, so does ATT. That's why you're right, there will be a ton of interference because everyone knows Wardlow should have squashed Sky back in March, but MJF and Spears kept him under the boot and Scorpio got away with murder.

[xrodmuc316]

He wants the TNT Championship because when he had his chance at it, MJF screwed him and Scorpio regained his championship. Wardlow knows that he can squash Sky, so does ATT. That's why you're right, there will be a ton of interference because everyone knows Wardlow should have squashed Sky back in March, but MJF and Spears kept him under the boot and Scorpio got away with murder.

None of that explains why he would ask not to be in the battle royal for the Interim Title. Him wanting the TNT Title does not prevent him from wanting the World Title, nor saying the Interim Title doesn't mean anything since Phil is the Champion. His logic is that anybody going for that interim title is an idiot.

[Jordan]

I don't remember him speaking on the Battle Royal, did he?

[Frank Drebin]

Who is Marina Shafir going to accidentally injure tonight?

[xrodmuc316]

I don't remember him speaking on the Battle Royal, did he?

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Stupid logic, considering the interim champ would fucking face CM Punk when he is back.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve got no problem with Wardlow getting the TNT Title, but it shouldn’t be his destination. He should have won it and made a march for the World Title ala Goldberg or Warrior. A unification would have been a sensible way to get rid of the TNT branding, which could become problematic in the future.

[xrodmuc316]

Also, I dont want to face CM Punk until he is healed, but fuck your knee Scorpio, I want YOUR TITLE!!!

The level of dumb is pissing me off all over again :rant:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I read the thread title as “titties on the line,” by the way. Thought I may have to reverse my general stance on AEW on the principle of titty-honking being featured.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, I dont want to face CM Punk until he is healed, but fuck your knee Scorpio, I want YOUR TITLE!!!

The level of dumb is pissing me off all over again :rant:

Yeah, that’s really stupid.

If you were a fan of Wardlow and thought he was white-hot in the MJF feud, I don’t know how you could not be disappointed with this direction for him. It’s very deliberately cooling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It really makes you wonder what the point of splitting up MJF and Wardlow even was. You could understand it if there were legitimate plans to make Wardlow a star. But he could be standing next to MJF with the TNT Title looking pretty without the face turn. If FTR split off from them, they could have worked with MJF & Wardlow too.

Fuck, now I’m getting really annoyed they didn’t follow my template for them I pulled out of my ass post-Revolution:

* MJF challenges Adam Page for the AEW World Title. It’s two guys who crossed paths at the first Double or Nothing fighting for the World Title three years later.

* Bret Hart can be there to present the winner with the belt. He unveiled it at the first DON. It turned out “The Owen” was coinciding with this show. MJF disrespecting Bret and being excited to make the deluded old man present him with a belt would be excellent heat.

* MJF could also get heat by focusing on the boos Adam Page got. He could have used crowd psychology to tell the fans they don’t like Page and will quit on him like they do anything in life. Page might actually get over in this environment.

* Punk should have been confronted by Jeff Hardy night one. They had a pretty huge feud in WWE and have never been in the same place twice since. Why would they coexist? You would have gotten one big deal match out of Jeff before he went and got himself busted. But hey — maybe a big time actual angle built around who Jeff Hardy has actually become may have helped him stay on the straight and narrow? But anyway, missed opportunity there.

[drave]

titties always on the line

[Evil Vito]

Mox vs. Brody is gonna be a certified slobberknocker!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I saw some of Brody King in New Japan Strong. Absolutely awful. No psychology behind anything he does. This is going to be Mox and King doing MoVeZ to each other, hitting each other with garbage and probably bleeding for no good reason.

Why is Mox the interim champion? Why is this not Malakai Black? Why can’t we have nice things?

Fuck, I’d have taken Adam Page in this spot over King. Interim champ vs. the former champ. That’s if you have to go with Moxley. You could have not done Douchebaggery in the Dugout, or whatever it was called, and Danielson wouldn’t have been hurt. Could have just kept the belt on Punk. Could have stripped him and just done Okada vs. Danielson at Forbidden Door. Danielson could have made a stake at the AEW Title with a win there, which he could have missed and led to a story where they need to properly hold up the belt.

Tanahashi and Danielson could have wrestled for the interim title. They could be wrestling this week even if Mox was the Tanahashi opponent at Forbidden Door. Tanahashi could have won and now be wrestling Danielson. Or Claudio.

ALL of these ideas are better than Brody King winning some bullshit gimmick Battle Royal and wrestling Moxley in pure garbage.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy shit, just saw the rest of the card for this show. *sigh* There’s just nothing you can do with some of these people. I’ll do my best to fix this:


* Baltimora hits and…Christian Cage is out. Christian shits on the city. Tony Khan paid for that terrible music, so someone might as well use it. He says that he’s classing this joint up because a lot of your AEW favorites are getting hurt and not making the cut. Whatever he wants to say. Frankie Kazarian of all people interrupts him. Kazarian says they go back to TNA and he thought Christian was a creepy little bastard then. The reason Kaz hunted The Elite was because he doesn’t like bullies. He wants a match with Luchasaurus now because he’s a former Tag Champ, Lucha is a former tag champ. Christian acts like he doesn’t want Luchasaurus to take the match, but Luchasaurus blindsides Kazarian and Christian is happy about it.

* Luchasaurus defeats Frankie Kazarian without too much struggle. Christian can be on commentary describing what he is bringing out of Luchasaurus. Afterwards, Christian hits The Unprettier on Kazarian for extra measure.

* Thunderstorm are actually defeated by Nyla Rose & Marina Shafir. Toni and Rosa have too much going on between them and the belt. Athena is also out at ringside keeping an eye on things. Toni “accidentally” knocks Rosa which allows Nyla to get the pin. There’s speculation abroad that Storm is trying to disrupt the women’s division here.

* Dan Lambert is with Scorpio Sky cutting a promo about how tonight Sky becomes the man to beat Wardlow twice. Someone interrupts the interview, but this is live. Ethan Page is getting his ass kicked by Wardlow. They see him getting powerbombed in the distance and freak out. Sky wants Lambert to make some calls.

* FTR defeat Max Caster & Austin Gunn. Billy Gunn has forced Austin to team with Max so all his sons can get along. There isn’t that much in-ring chemistry there and Austin eats the pin after Bowens tosses the crutch to Max, who tosses it to Austin, with the intention of Austin using it, but he isn’t ready, so it hits him in the face. Austin stumbles into the Big Rig. Colton pulls Caster down upset at the whole thing so he can’t break up the pin.

* The heels all get into it verbally after the match. Max Caster standing up to both Gunns. Billy gets on the mic and yells at them to stop. They do. He struggles to think what to say. He says “I have…a condition…” Austin looks concerned. Colton and Max look confused. Billy says “That condition…is disappointment. You’re all disappointing Ass Boys to me. Next week we’re all going to get on the same page…or else. Billy leaves and everyone seems baffled at what “or else” means.

* Chris Jericho opens to top of the hour, because of course he does. Jericho says that Sammy can’t be here tonight because of his fall. Matt Parker or whoever the funny one in 2.0 is holding RIP Sammy signs. But at least Sammy has Tay Conti at home taking really good care of him. But they are disappointed that they lost last week, especially to a team led by a WWE reject. Claudio Castagnoli has glommed on to something great in the Jericho Appreciation Society, and slimed his way into a main event before the kid’s ready. And the truth is that Claudio is just not sports entertaining enough to be a main event player on national television. He needs to leave the BBC and join Jericho and learn how to be truly charismatic, because right now he is a C+ Player. Get it? C+ because he has two C’s in his name. Thank you, thank you.

* Claudio comes out. It seems stupid to get in the ring with all the JAS. He’s out there alone for this, so I guess the rest of The BCC are preparing with Moxley. You can show Mox at various points of the night with his camp training. Anyway, Claudio sizes up the situation, waves his finger and goes to the back. He comes back with a steel chair. The JAS are ready for him. Claudio tosses in the steel chair. It is there to help them…not him. Claudio walks into the ring and they all bail. Claudio sits in the ring and mimes at them to come at him. Jericho: “Is that a yes?!” Claudio gets up, glares at Jericho. Hager gets in there and gets taken down by Claudio pretty efficiently. Jericho and his other goons get the hell out of there.

* Commotion in the back: Wardlow and Junior Dos Santos are caught fighting in the parking lot. Lambert and Sky must have called him in to help out. Wardlow has headed him off and powerbombs him on the car. Because Wardlow respects him, he only gives him one as a warning shot to stay out of his business.

* Keith Lee decides he doesn’t want to team up with Swerve Strickland anymore. He’s supposed to be a big deal in AEW. He’s signed to a giant contract. He’s not supposed to be teaming with a geek like Strickland. Strickland looks like he’s ready to face The Butcher & The Blade on his own. FTR, good guy defenders of all that is holy step in. They want FTR & Strickland vs. Butcher, Blade & Bitch right now. More of an angle match where Lee gets mad and tries to hurt a member of FTR. Possibly a DQ. Fucked if I know. Stupid match. Swerve & Lee should not be a team, I just know that much.

* Wardlow squashes Scorpio Sky in seconds to win the TNT Title. He got ahead of Men of the Year/American Top Team and eliminated the factors that would predictably get in his way. Make him smarter than the heels.

* The Young Bucks cut a promo about how they saw good guys FTR earlier, helping out everyone. In this business you’ve got to help yourselves. So when Tony Khan asked us whether we’d agree to having a match with FTR at the ROH PPV on July 23rd, we said…no. We’ve got the tag belts we want. We’ve got the money we want. We’ve got the spot we want. We don’t have anything to prove. Matt Hardy’s music hits and he says that The Bucks have the belts, they’ve got the money, but do they have the reputation of being the best tag team right now? Matt Hardy says his fellow North Carolinians deserve a shot. The Bucks say they need to talk to their lawyers and run off.

* Jon Moxley defeats Brody King to retain the AEW Title. Yuck, I can’t even put this one into context. Just try and make it painless.

* Advertised for Rampage: Malakai Black vs. Wheeler Yuta; Miro throws PAC an All-Atlantic Championship celebration, American-style; Jade Cargill vs. Athena for the TBS Championship; Andrade El Idolo & Isiah Kassidy vs. The Lucha Bros; Billy Gunn puts his family back together.

I used guys I don’t like to make it feel more like AEW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

For those wondering where the Gunn family drama is going: The Gunns get a visit from Uncle Road Dogg. Scott Armstrong also shows up to say hi and Billy Gunn greets him with an extremely OTT passive aggressive “Oh hi, Scott!” They arrange an Armstrong/Gunn Family Campout Sing-Along. And yes, Bart Gunn will make an appearance somewhere in all this.

[slik]

Looking forward to more TAZ on commentary

[Jordan]

It would be good to get ahead of the curve and go ahead and state that there was a big shooting over the weekend and the news is talking about it! Also with abortion plans changing for many all of the country, we may see a dip in ratings tonight!

[Jordan]

For a guy like me, I do need some blood and guts every week, why the shit else am I watching fake fighting for? You buncha pussies.

[slik]

Moxley should gut Brody King like a fish and wear his organs as a crown

[slik]

Would also like to suggest AEW counters WWE signing Logan Paul by signing Country Music Superstar Reba McIntyre to be Hangman's Cowgirl Advocate

[ClockShot]

On vacation this week.

Load up on the caffeine and try to go the distance with y'all tonight.

[Evil Vito]

Wardlow over as fuck!

[xrodmuc316]

Moxley should gut Brody King like a fish and wear his organs as a crown

If MJF doesn't interfere in this match tonight, he might actually never come back.

[Jordan]

Kicking off with the STREET FIGHT. SICK, just what I needed! I wanna see big WARDLOW break some shit! Don't mind if it's Scorpio Sky and Dan Lamberts dick too!

[ClockShot]

All that backup doesn't mean nothing, Scorpy.

[slik]

IDR Scorpio Sky's music at all

[Evil Vito]

Absolutely love that they're sticking with Ex/Tony/Taz for at least part of the show.

[Jordan]

Dan Lambert brought in the ATT C team, have no idea about any of those guys.

[Jordan]

I figured Tony Khan was mark enough that STREET FIGHT means you wear jeans kinda like Bunkhouse Match :(

[Evil Vito]

Dan Lambert brought in the ATT C team, have no idea about any of those guys.

-some guy!
-some other guy!
-Elias
-tall guy American flag

Greatest group since the Horsemen

[Jordan]

This match has already gone too long. Scorpio holds no threat to Wardlow.

[Jordan]

Remember Scorpio resigned with AEW on a five year bid.

[ClockShot]

This match has already gone too long. Scorpio holds no threat to Wardlow.

Nah. We still haven't gotten to the weapons and backstage yet.

[ClockShot]

Whoa.

War Dog can fly.

[Jordan]

I think Wardlow took that black dudes nuts and sac with him after that Gorilla toss.

[Evil Vito]

Fuck yeah Wardlow!

[ClockShot]

Fun opener to get the crowd going.

[rez]

Hellz yeah

[Jordan]

Man that hair style gotta change before he goes to the World Title!

[ClockShot]

That is a ton of confetti.

Arena cleaners got a late night ahead of them.

[Triple A]

cool @ Wardlow

[Triple A]

spacing out again during Jon Moxley promo...

[slik]

sweet @ Wardlow

[slik]

The Mayhem Era

[slik]

forgot tony nese was in aew

[ClockShot]

Luchasaurus with the repackage.

New music. Entrance. Gear.

Dig it.

[Triple A]

Christian still not wrestling as a heel...

[ClockShot]

For a minute, I thought Jeff escaped from jail.

[ClockShot]

There's a zinger for ya.

[Jordan]

Hahahaha Christian so low

[Jordan]

Bucher and BLAZE

[Triple A]

lol all just really cheap heat but love it, so over the top

[slik]

Wish Christian also had a monocle and a top hat

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christian Cage has become a highlight of the wrestling world again. I think he should beat Jungle Boy.

[ClockShot]

Whoa. Matt's head almost caught that chair.

[Jordan]

Once again a great Christian segment. Luchasaurus is going really well in this direction too. Good use of Hardy as a punching bag while Jungle Boy is out.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WE THE PEOPLE can’t wait to see this match

[slik]

Wish Claudio would spin Tony Schiavone to teach him a lesson

[Jordan]

Claudio can talk!

[Evil Vito]

Bunnyyyyy :love:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I just got here what did miss

[rez]

It's Butcher an da Blaze

[slik]

Jake Hager orange enough to be OC's older brother

[Jordan]

Oh man I haven't seen Butcher and Blade in a long time. One of the really solid AEW original acts that should be highlighted better. Well they are about to lose this match it seems.

[slik]

I just got here what did miss

Wardlow won the title and Christian cut a promo on Jeff Hardy being an addict to Matt Hardy

[ClockShot]

I just got here what did miss

Wardlow won the TNT title.

Christian Cage and Matt Hardy had a nice talky segment followed by Matt being a punching bag.

[Triple A]

I just got here what did miss

- Wardlow beat Scorpio Sky to win the TNT title

- Smart Mark Sterling tried to get Keith Lee to sign a petition to get Swerve fired because he is a snake who turns his back on ppl but Keith Lee said he wouldn't cause they keep winning, unlike Tony Nese

- Christian and Matt Hardy in-ring segment... Christian took a bunch of shots at Jeff Hardy then Luchasaurus powerbombed Matt through a table

[Jordan]

I just got here what did miss

Wardlow beat Sky in the street fight and won the TNT. Christian then cut a good promo interrupted by Matt Hardy and then Christian said some low shit and Luch beat Hardy's ass.

[BigCrippyZ]

Really fun stuff so far.

Fuck. Bunny is always so damn hot.

[Jordan]

Yeesh that botch could have been bad. Blade needs to tag out.

[Jordan]

Oh man that double chest slap was sick!

[Jordan]

Butcher looks stupid with the fringe boots.

[BigCrippyZ]

- Wardlow beat Scorpio Sky to win the TNT title

- Smart Mark Sterling tried to get Keith Lee to sign a petition to get Swerve fired because he is a snake who turns his back on ppl but Keith Lee said he wouldn't cause they keep winning, unlike Tony Nese

- Christian and Matt Hardy in-ring segment... Christian took a bunch of shots at Jeff Hardy then Luchasaurus powerbombed Matt through a table

This recap made me think of EWR or TEW.

[ClockShot]

Whoops.

?

They're gonna break up Sweve & Keith already.

[Triple A]

Crowd behind Butcher & The Blade

[Triple A]

Whoops.

?

They're gonna break up Sweve & Keith already.

They've been teasing it for like a month already

[Jordan]

Fun match despite the botches.

[Evil Vito]

Ricky Starks is a star

[Jordan]

Hobbs pretty good on the mic. Haven't seen Starks and Hobbs in forever.

[Jordan]

Starks channeling the NATURE BOY WHOOO damn getting FIRED UP!

[Jordan]

LOL @ Starks checking in with us at home as if he were Jim Halpert.

[Evil Vito]

I can fuck with that triple threat tag

[Triple A]

Ruby Soho also injured?

[Jordan]

LMAO @ JAS just so funny, everything.

[Evil Vito]

Liked the BCC/HOB logos in the Mox/Brody match graphics. Very reminiscent of NJPW.

[Triple A]

Wish the TNT network didn't get mad at Jericho for smoking a cigar that one time... wish he could still do that after doing dastardly heel things

[Triple A]

Any1 take Nugenix Total-T man-boosting formula

[Jordan]

Wish the TNT network didn't get mad at Jericho for smoking a cigar that one time... wish he could still do that after doing dastardly heel things

He's such an 80's movie villian, from like a bad action comedy. So funny.

[slik]

ran to mcdonalds drive thru to get a diet coke with no ice when keith lee match started...what have i missed

[Jordan]

What if Evil Uno is David Bixenspan you guys

[slik]

Starks channeling the NATURE BOY WHOOO damn getting FIRED UP!

will watch this part later

[slik]

wish stu grayson was here to help dark order

[ClockShot]

Speak up kid. Can't hear you.

[slik]

wish preston vance got a decent push

[Jordan]

Well I was going to but I won't comment on Negative 1's terrible mic skills.

[Triple A]

ran to mcdonalds drive thru to get a diet coke with no ice when keith lee match started...what have i missed

- Keith Lee & Swerve won, then Ricky Starks & Hobbs came out and cut a promo on them, then The Young Bucks came to the stage and set up a 3 way tag team title match next week

- Malakai black cut a promo "backstage" saying some shit

- Eddie Kingston came out to the ring and said he's not done with Jericho, then Jericho appeared on the screen and Tay Conti viciously slammed a car door on Ruby Soho's arm!

[Jordan]

Damn JR out in sweats, not good.

[Evil Vito]

Funny thing is, Negative 1 has apparently cut full blown promos on Dark before

The idea was nice, but the execution wasn’t

[slik]

Ricky Starks so good

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[Evil Vito]

Ruuuuush!

[ClockShot]

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

[ClockShot]

Tony Khan should get on the ball and get Dragon/Ryu Lee here.

This gotta happen.

Y'all know what I mean.

[Jordan]

You guys remember that ECW PPV where Taz wrestled Bubba Ray for the ECW title in the first match, or near the opening of the card? I loved that. I would like to see Penta or Rey Fenix get an AEW Championship match against any new AEW Champion as a non PPV title defense until they leave the company. They are both instant title challengers by being so goddamn good.

Rush vs Penta? Fuck yes. Oh shit are we going toward Rush & Andrade vs Lucha Bro's? I'm about to shoot a spicy crema.

[Triple A]

This should be cool...

[Jordan]

Rush is main event big! Didn't think he'd be bigger than Penta.

[Jordan]

Anyone remember El Texano Jr from Lucha Underground? Where the shit is that guy and why isn't it AEW? He was awesome.

[Triple A]

Wonder why AEW doesn't sign Bandido, he's so good...

[slik]

Scorpio Sky injured

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To my supporters, thank you!<br>To my detractors, thank you!<br>I’ll see you all later. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a></p>&mdash; Scorpio Sky (@ScorpioSky) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScorpioSky/status/1544848368479895552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">J.R. is out right in time for the lucha match that's right up his alley.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a></p>&mdash; SoberWrestling (@SoberWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoberWrestling/status/1544848624210812929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

Wardlow apparently had a new theme, but could barely hear it, so seems like it also sucks

[slik]

Does anyone else order drinks with no ice because you also realize that ice takes up space caffeine could be occupying??

[Triple A]

Does anyone else order drinks with no ice because you also realize that ice takes up space caffeine could be occupying??

No, I like ice... h8 when drinks aren't "ice cold," esp carbonated drinks

[Jordan]

Rush been doing cheap Mexican HGH and you can tell cause his increase in size and the back acne.

[Jordan]

Easiest way to beat Penta is rip that mask off.

[Evil Vito]

Holy shit how many time are they going to do Penta losing his mask as a finish. It’s getting lazy at this point.

[Evil Vito]

Sweet match though, I’m pumped for the eventual tag

[Triple A]

Sonjay Dutt and Jay Lethal thing freaking horrendous... worst thing in AEW

[Jordan]

GOTTA GET THE CHAMPIONSHIPS

[slik]

best friends dressed better than young bucks

[Evil Vito]

Fuck you Ass Boys for denying us a new Caster rap

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn’t see Keith Lee & Swerve vs. Bed & Breakfast, but they totally should have had Butcher turn on Blade and Swerve then turn on Keith Lee. Do a double betrayal and get rid of the shit halves.

[ClockShot]

That's right, Billy. Family first.

[slik]

I am kanefused why Bowens head is all shaved one length except the back of his head, I have not seen this look before

[Triple A]

Billy Gunn and his scumbag sons strike again.......

[xrodmuc316]

Are the Acclaimed faces now?

[Triple A]

great Gunn Club theme...

[Jordan]

Are the Acclaimed faces now?

The fans like them but they don't act like babyfaces.

[slik]

HEINOUS actions by William Gunn

[Jordan]

OH no it's Nyla Rose.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, Brody King should win the main event. I know he’s the shits, but it would be “shocking” enough to justify, makes the issues between BBC and HOB (hob vs. nob?) way more interesting. Would be refreshing in concept, at least. You don’t often see such an unexpected title change, and with a second in a faction, no less.

Wardlow shitting on the fake title makes more sense if he’s right about it too. Let it move about in unexpected ways before you go back to the real thing. Plus it would probably be included in a lot of people’s most shocking title changes list, which gives it this enduring quality that a maintaining of the status quo doesn’t do.

Telling ya: Brody King for the Fake World Championship.

[Evil Vito]

Mmmm Thunderstorm

[Mr. Nerfect]

Billy Gunn should get a belt for being World’s Coolest Dad.

[Evil Vito]

Wonder if The Acclaimed will bring in Road Dogg to combat the Gunn Club

[Mr. Nerfect]

Changed my mind on Thunderstorm vs. Nyla & Marina. Just have Team Ass go over. AEW fans are so stupid they’ll eat it up just for the name. Plus Marina sucks too bad.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wonder if The Acclaimed will bring in Road Dogg to combat the Gunn Club

They should. Scott Armstrong should be the referee then screw the Gunn Club over. Continue his streak of crooked refereeing, help his brother out. Then he can drop a beat Caster can rap to.

[Triple A]

Wish Jamie Hayter was wrestling in all these matches instead of Marina Shafir every week

[slik]

Had to yell at my cheese

It was talking about lactose intolerance so I let it know I will not tolerate intolerance in this refrigerator

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Ayo? 👀 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/m68TXfM92p">pic.twitter.com/m68TXfM92p</a></p>&mdash; AEW Out Of Context (@zerocontextAEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/zerocontextAEW/status/1544842252035530752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

I, wanna rock and roll all night

[ClockShot]

Over run authorized for the main event.

[Evil Vito]

In digging the snarkier, Vickie-free Nyla. She’s a hoot.

I’d be OK not seeing Shafir again. She just sucks.

[rez]

TONY, CUT THE SHIT

[Evil Vito]

Leila Gray hot

[Evil Vito]

Takeshita vs Kingston holy shit

[slik]

Daniel Garcia has gotten way more confident on the mic from when he joined AEW

[slik]

would be funny if rainn wilson attacked jon moxley with a chair imo

[xrodmuc316]

Changed my mind on Thunderstorm vs. Nyla & Marina. Just have Team Ass go over. AEW fans are so stupid they’ll eat it up just for the name. Plus Marina sucks too bad.

How she has MMA Experience and be married to Roddy Strong and STILL be that bad at pro wrestling is an incredible accomplishment :lol:

[Triple A]

Ref should count these fuckers out for not playing by the rules...

[Triple A]

Has anything happened in this match at all...

[Frank Drebin]

Seriously....where is MJF?

[ClockShot]

Meh.

Not much of an over run. Could have got a bit longer.

[xrodmuc316]

That was a boring main event.

[Triple A]

not good

[Evil Vito]

Didn’t mind the main. Was what I expected, two meaty lads throwing bombs for 10 min or so.

Enjoyable episode.

[Evil Vito]

Interested to see what’s next on the docket for Wardlow. Wardlow vs Miro seems like it would make a lot of sense but he’s now apparently headed into an angle with HOB

[slik]

kind of zoned out in the main event and started thinking about texas chainsaw massacre

[Bad News Gertner]

What a horrific show this week

[Vastardikai]

How many Triple Threat Tag Matches are they gonna have for the AEW Tag Team Titles?

[Frank Drebin]

Another snoozer of a show. Was looking forward to this as maybe where they did something with MJF but I guess they're going to wait for it to cool off completely. Nice.

Look, I get the injuries. But you have to make due and use it as an opportunity to bring others up the card. No, not Orange Cassidy. What is their plan with Hook? Is he too green still?

They're doing the right thing with Wardlow but he can't fill up 3 hours of programming.

[Frank Drebin]

Really disappointed in AEW ever since DON. Just been abominable and I hate saying that.

[Frank Drebin]

They're going to keep Dark Order together for....what....more dark matches against QT Marshal?? Why was a ten year old given the mic? Jesus Christ.....

[Evil Vito]

FTR/Briscoes
Yuta/Garcia
Lethal/Joe

That’s a pretty nice start to Death Before Dishonor. Keen to see what other former ROH guys wind up in the fold. Assume Gresham will be getting booked with him still being the champ and all. Maybe him vs Brian Cage who I assume will get some level of a push under the ROH banner.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Wait did they scrap the Gresham tag match that was supposed to be on the show?

[XL]

Isn’t that on Rampage?

[XL]

They really need to solidify plans for ROH and break it away. Select a roster and go separate ways. They’ve too many acts and titles to service at the moment and it’s all very messy.

[Evil Vito]

Isn’t that on Rampage?

Yeah it's on Rampage. I have to think Gresh will have a singles match at the PPV.

Would seem they're still waiting for a TV deal to properly break it away, hopefully that happens sooner rather than later so ROH can really be its own entity. Nice as the PPV card is shaping up, I'm not feeling like ordering a PPV for a 3rd month in a row so it's TV time going to a PPV I won't watch. Would rather it be its own thing.

[#1-norm-fan]

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[Evil Vito]

Was looking forward to this as maybe where they did something with MJF but I guess they're going to wait for it to cool off completely. Nice.

The weird thing about the MJF is that I feel like in the eyes of most of their regular fanbase, the angle isn't "cooled off" because him being completely out of sight and out of mind is part of it. One look at AEW's subreddit or AEW twitter and you'll see that most of the fans accept it because the whole point is he's gonna crash the show unannounced one day. People who buy tickets to AEW shows are among the diehards that watch every week so chances are high the crowd will erupt whenever he shows and it'll immediately become the focal angle of the company again.

But the angle most definitely has cooled off to any new viewers who were tuning in after hearing about MJF's pipebomb. I'd guess most of those folks noped back out within a week or 2 of zero follow up.

Again I suspect like 90% of the regular viewers will "mark out" when he returns no matter how far down the line it is. Maybe 10% will be like "meh, they waited too long, don't care". But no new fans will have been made from this thing.

As someone who will most likely still be watching every week, I will probably enjoy the payoff. But it's been a strange piece of business.

[Evil Vito]

I also don't know how much longer they will wait or what they are waiting for. Are they waiting for Punk to come back? Nobody knows when that will be. He's gonna have to face Moxley when he returns, and I'd be willing to bet they work something with NJPW to give him the Tana match too. Also, are we really doing Punk/MJF again? The feud ruled but it's strange to go right back to it so soon.

All Out is 8 more weeks away. Grand Slam is 10 weeks away. That's a long time to possibly keep stretching this out if they are waiting for a "milestone" event.

Again, most of the regulars will be happy to see him whenever he's back but it's weird to consciously keep a guy like him benched for that long.

[Jordan]

They really need to solidify plans for ROH and break it away. Select a roster and go separate ways. They’ve too many acts and titles to service at the moment and it’s all very messy.

I second this. Scrap Dark or Elevation and make it ROH if you have to. Get this thing going some how. ROH is needed in more ways than one. The ROH fanbase is probably fiending over their lack of action. I bet good money that ROH PPV's and tapings sell out for the first few months once they are announced.

[Crippla]

Missed the show...watching it now on YouTube since I got to leave early today. The full show is uploaded so if you missed Dynamite and want to see it, I would watch it now before it gets taken down

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t get what the MJF angle is even supposed to be. He’s going to come back and he’ll be back? Why have they done this? I wouldn’t be surprised if they still haven’t properly sorted things out and he never comes back, lol.

If TK can pay someone to relaunch ROH without stepping on Warner’s toes too much, MJF makes sense there. But they could have just had him jump to ROH. I really don’t get this.

[Crippla]

I don’t get what the MJF angle is even supposed to be. He’s going to come back and he’ll be back? Why have they done this? I wouldn’t be surprised if they still haven’t properly sorted things out and he never comes back, lol.

If TK can pay someone to relaunch ROH without stepping on Warner’s toes too much, MJF makes sense there. But they could have just had him jump to ROH. I really don’t get this.

Not entirely sure the exact direction they are going with it and I'm not even sure Tony himself knows what he wants to do to make it work yet.

[Crippla]

I don’t get what the MJF angle is even supposed to be. He’s going to come back and he’ll be back? Why have they done this? I wouldn’t be surprised if they still haven’t properly sorted things out and he never comes back, lol.

If TK can pay someone to relaunch ROH without stepping on Warner’s toes too much, MJF makes sense there. But they could have just had him jump to ROH. I really don’t get this.

I'm guessing this will be a big investment for them to properly get over and not screw up since the promo got such a good reaction so there is probably a lot of kinks being thrown into the decision on how to bring MJF back and where to go from here with the angle in general. I really believe nothing is edged in stone and this hasn't been completely decided yet...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not entirely sure the exact direction they are going with it and I'm not even sure Tony himself knows what he wants to do to make it work yet.

Yeah, I think you’re right. This is such a weird thing to start without having a plan though.

[Crippla]

I'm sure they have a plan but I just don't think they've worked out all of the exact details of it and are probably changing some things as they go along

[Mr. Nerfect]

You would be inclined to think he’d be at the ROH PPV, right? Even though it’s owned and operated by Tony Khan, it makes enough sense as an alien entity for him to be there. Or he could even take aim at the promotion. “Tony Khan will spend more on this place than Vince did on WCW or sex so you fat nerds who didn’t appreciate Jim Cornette saving this thing can have something special, but he can’t pay me the main event money I deserve.”

[weather vane]

Where is Colt Cabana??

[Sepholio]

Really hope MJF comes back next week when I'm there.

[XL]

Where is Colt Cabana??

Working ROH.

[weather vane]

Nobody gets their mask taken off more than the Super Lucha Bros.

[weather vane]

Does anyone else order drinks with no ice because you also realize that ice takes up space caffeine could be occupying??

Extra ice.

[weather vane]

No more wheelchair!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Claudio Castagnoli has to be taking the ROH World Title off Gresham at DBD, hasn’t he?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dynamite back down in the ratings again.

[Fignuts]

Claudio Castagnoli has to be taking the ROH World Title off Gresham at DBD, hasn’t he?

I don't see how they get a tv deal with a champion that makes Michael Cole look like the Great Khali, so yeah, lets hope so.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I remember hearing so much about Gresham and then I saw him and chuckled. He’s tiny.

As far as MJF goes I’m not sure what direction there is to go with him at the moment. Punk is hurt and it’s clear they’re boring time till he comes back. And I don’t know how they could bring MJF back in the current landscape and make it work. It also hasn’t been that long since he’s been gone. Getting scrubbed from the company only to come back a month or so later doesn’t really sell the authenticity of it all.

When punk walked out with the title he was gone a week and it all felt so short and rushed. I’d rather they this bath and have him crash the show when we’re least expecting it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't see how they get a tv deal with a champion that makes Michael Cole look like the Great Khali, so yeah, lets hope so.

I like Gresham enough. I think he actually looks good on a poster. The Death Before Dishonor one is really good. But yeah, maybe not for World Heavyweight Champion of your promotion. Pure Champ? I’m right there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

How supportive are WBD of TK having another wrestling promotion to distract himself with? You’d think they’d want Dynamite and Rampage to be better before he went and poured a bunch of resources into ROH.

[Fignuts]

I would definitely enjoy Gresham as TV or Pure champion. Evan as tag champ with Lethal.

Heavyweight champ should be able to ride a roller coaster though.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Gresham is just too small for me to take him that seriously. Danielson is a small fit and he’s half a foot taller. Gresham also comes off like a nerds even when he tried cutting a serious promo last week. Just don’t buy it.

Once they ROH on weekly TV, they should get the belt off him ASAP.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would definitely enjoy Gresham as TV or Pure champion. Evan as tag champ with Lethal.

Heavyweight champ should be able to ride a roller coaster though.

Agreed. I know they were partners in the past, but are they in the same camp? Might have thought they feuded. Anyway, doesn’t matter — he’s got a role.

[XL]

How supportive are WBD of TK having another wrestling promotion to distract himself with? You’d think they’d want Dynamite and Rampage to be better before he went and poured a bunch of resources into ROH.

The smart money if for Tony to put a creative team together for ROH. Set a vision, catch the broad strokes every week but let them do their thing.

There might be a creative lead with 50 years experience on the market soon! :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

The smart money if for Tony to put a creative team together for ROH. Set a vision, catch the broad strokes every week but let them do their thing.

There might be a creative lead with 50 years experience on the market soon! :shifty:

Even if you thought Tony Khan was a good booker, you’d want the shows to be different, surely? And there’s the likelihood of burnout.

[Crippla]

I would definitely enjoy Gresham as TV or Pure champion. Evan as tag champ with Lethal.

Heavyweight champ should be able to ride a roller coaster though.

If you put Gresham on Adam Cole's shoulders, they just might make the height requirement!

[XL]

Even if you thought Tony Khan was a good booker, you’d want the shows to be different, surely? And there’s the likelihood of burnout.

Personally, yeah. It’s one of the criticisms that can be levelled at the WWE brand split: there’s no actual difference between the brands.

Do you make ROH the pure sports-wrestling show that AEW seemed like it was going to be? How big is the audience for that?

It’s not easy booking this many moving parts and it’s only going to get harder if Khan is taking the lead on everything.

[Sepholio]

If you put Gresham on Adam Cole's shoulders, they just might make the height requirement!

Ehhhhh it'll be kinda close I think.

[Sepholio]

I think due to size requirements that Adam Cole might still legally be required to be secured in a booster seat when riding in a car.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Personally, yeah. It’s one of the criticisms that can be levelled at the WWE brand split: there’s no actual difference between the brands.

Do you make ROH the pure sports-wrestling show that AEW seemed like it was going to be? How big is the audience for that?

It’s not easy booking this many moving parts and it’s only going to get harder if Khan is taking the lead on everything.

It’s kind of weird for a dude to own two different fighting leagues that could essentially be fused together. I think some explanation needs to go into why ROH and AEW are going to be separate entities, as opposed to one or the other surviving.

[Fignuts]

I don't think Adam Cole's height is the problem. Its his best buy greeter physique.

[Sepholio]

He looks so frail and dainty. Unhealthy. Wouldn't be surprised if Cena showed up to grant a wish for him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Cena jumps to AEW, that should be in his rap on Cole.

[Jordan]

It’s kind of weird for a dude to own two different fighting leagues that could essentially be fused together. I think some explanation needs to go into why ROH and AEW are going to be separate entities, as opposed to one or the other surviving.

No man ROH has high flying action coupled with some of the top technical matches you will see in todays wrestling! Oh yeah did I forget that they also get HARDCORE and bleed like it's 80's? Lot's of high flying, technical and also hardcore action mixed with zany characters.

[Jordan]

Love blood in matches though I'll take AEW's excess over WWE's blood drought of the last 10 years or so.

[Mr. Nerfect]

No man ROH has high flying action coupled with some of the top technical matches you will see in todays wrestling! Oh yeah did I forget that they also get HARDCORE and bleed like it's 80's? Lot's of high flying, technical and also hardcore action mixed with zany characters.

Are you describing ROH or AEW?

[Crippla]

I don't think Adam Cole's height is the problem. Its his best buy greeter physique.

He would blend right in with the Geek Squad if you put their uniform on him

[XL]

Love blood in matches though I'll take AEW's excess over WWE's blood drought of the last 10 years or so.

Meh. Since Cody, bruising is the new blading.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Adam Cole looks weird because he’s got a man’s sized head on a child’s body. He’s muscular in the slightest. I don’t care how good he is in the ring, and I do think he’s god and enjoy his matches, he’s never gonna be more to me than what he’s been; upper mid card guy who eats pins against the actual main event guys until he decides to hit the damn gym. He’s supposed to be pro athlete. He doesn’t need to be yoked but at least put some muscle on. Danielson is a good example of looking like an athlete without being super muscular.