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Ol Dirty Dastard

08-29-2022, 09:17 PM

I haven't watched raw in years and you better believe I'm not watching tonight. But I feel like there should be a raw thread.

Have at her boyos.

xrodmuc316

08-29-2022, 09:20 PM

Kurt Angle throwing milk to fans :rofl:

Sepholio

08-29-2022, 09:35 PM

....Rollins just called Riddle a bitch multiple times and Riddle delivered several F bombs in a promo.

Sepholio

08-29-2022, 09:35 PM

Welcome to TV-14 era?

slik

08-29-2022, 09:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Speechless. Absolutely speechless right now...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/TAqYKwl1R0">pic.twitter.com/TAqYKwl1R0</a></p>— WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1564426829502586882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik

08-29-2022, 09:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What is going on here?!?!? ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/axyKHyx65E">pic.twitter.com/axyKHyx65E</a></p>— WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1564430200812802048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-29-2022, 10:15 PM

slik

08-29-2022, 10:16 PM

KO got his NXT TitanTron back

slik

08-29-2022, 10:27 PM

setup to re-align Sami w/ KO instead of doing comedy gimmick

Sepholio

08-29-2022, 10:29 PM

Lumis is gonna kill Miz.

slik

08-29-2022, 10:39 PM

Sort of hilarious Aliyah is main-eventing RAW

I am assuming the tag title finals is setup for Sasha/Naomi to return to close RAW

Sepholio

08-29-2022, 10:57 PM

LOL and now Raquel and Aaliyah are champz.

slik

08-29-2022, 11:02 PM

Raquel and Aliyah are both really bad in the ring...but RAW closes with them winning the tag belts to a dead crowd reaction

slik

08-29-2022, 11:21 PM

Clash at the Castle starts at 1pm Eastern on Saturday

Here is the card, unless they announce any more matches before Saturday:

Roman vs Drew

Edge/Rey vs Balor/Priest

Bianca/Alexa/Asuka vs Bayley/Dakota Kai/Iyo Sky

Sheamus vs Gunther

Shayna Bazler vs Liv Morgan

Matt Riddle vs Seth Rollins

xrodmuc316

08-29-2022, 11:59 PM

lol people can't tell me HHH is some saviour when he's heading the creative that's producing this dreck.

I am ok with the stalker character. I am not ok with the announcers and Ciampa acting like Miz and the fans didn't see Dexter and were just imagining it. That is just stupid.

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 01:38 AM

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 01:43 AM

Clash at the Castle starts at 1pm Eastern on Saturday

Here is the card, unless they announce any more matches before Saturday:

Fucking ace card.

I had McAfee and Corbin on my list too. I can see something happening to set that up on SmackDown, but something doesn’t feel “right” about it. That’s about the biggest thing they have kind of been teasing that they can put together in that last week.

I mean, The New Day and The Viking Raiders doesn’t feel big enough, even if New Day are an act they’d probably like to emphasize.

Oh, I think I also had Miz vs. AJ vs. Lashley vs. Omos too. I don’t think that will be happening, but I haven’t seen Raw.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-30-2022, 05:49 AM

I am ok with the stalker character. I am not ok with the announcers and Ciampa acting like Miz and the fans didn't see Dexter and were just imagining it. That is just stupid.

Like okay a stalker gimmick I guess but the kidnapping and stuff you mentioned is just trash. I mean there’s tons of fake shit in wrestling and when I was 11 I suppose I could put up with it but I honestly wasn’t hooked during the attitude era until 2000 because of how silly the storylines were. So I’ve never loved the storylines that stretched reality to this point, and hhh is supposed to add realism and cohesiveness to the product and this ain’t it.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-30-2022, 05:51 AM

I was more hooked pre attitude era tbh. I got put off by all the crash tv and the belts changing every fucking show even when I didn’t know what workrate was lol

Blonde Moment

08-30-2022, 07:05 AM

I expected Raquel to come out before their first match as a team to beat the shit out of Aliyah and leave.

drave

08-30-2022, 08:18 AM

20 posts :(

drave

08-30-2022, 09:15 AM

That Rollins & Riddle segment though. More of that. That's how you make shit believable. Riddle legit looks and sounds like he wants to exterminate Rollins.

Lock Jaw

08-30-2022, 09:21 AM

Riddle sounds like a goof still (and looks). The dude is such an obvious heel...

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 12:08 PM

That Rollins & Riddle segment though. More of that. That's how you make shit believable. Riddle legit looks and sounds like he wants to exterminate Rollins.

Riddle sounded good. This is like what they wanted out of Van Dam. It’s refreshing that they want a different gear out of a guy they like. Rollins is just so fucking cheesy though. This is the influence of Broken Matt Hardy on wrestling — if you can’t talk, just talk weird and people will think you’re bad on purpose.

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 12:08 PM

The match will kick a lot of ass though.

drave

08-30-2022, 12:25 PM

Riddle is also just a fucking beast man.
The pre-RAW parking lot footage and "separation". These little things go a very long way man. The past 3 RAWs, while I have not watched in completion, definitely has me more interested than they have in years.

I'd be all for Sami Zayn getting away from his goofy shit too. That dude can fucking go in the ring. Goofy looking as shit, but really good.

Wanna see Dexter Lumis get in the ring too.

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 12:51 PM

Haven’t seen Dexter Lumis in a while. Sami Zayn is very talented. He’s got a lot of range. His clinging to the champion thing makes sense and works for him, but so does kicking it into another gear and proving he’s one of the best.

drave

08-30-2022, 02:32 PM

They're slow-burning Lumis following Miz around. Surely, they will have him go round with Ciampa before the "big payoff" of him getting to Miz. Curious to see the why of it though.

KO and Zayn are going to take the gold from the Uso's in a very convincing fashion, when they finally do clash. It'll be a helluva tag match that will be remembered well.

08-30-2022, 03:08 PM

Riddle sounded good. This is like what they wanted out of Van Dam. It’s refreshing that they want a different gear out of a guy they like. Rollins is just so fucking cheesy though. This is the influence of Broken Matt Hardy on wrestling — if you can’t talk, just talk weird and people will think you’re bad on purpose.

Yeah. That super serious segment started with Seth doing that usual stuff with the laugh and it made me :roll:

I liked the little twist with the “after we ended the interview”. Very nice.

08-30-2022, 03:10 PM

I’m really enjoying the “Honoury Uce” thing with Zayn but I’m down for a Zayn/Owens reunion down the line.

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 04:00 PM

I’m really enjoying the “Honoury Uce” thing with Zayn but I’m down for a Zayn/Owens reunion down the line.

I wouldn’t dislike Owens & Zayn as a team or anything (and I think that may have been the plan at one point), but I don’t mind them having their own path.

08-30-2022, 04:55 PM

Didn’t catch this but he’s back to Matt Riddle.

Sepholio

08-30-2022, 05:12 PM

Feel like Sliks prediction of Sasha and Naomi returning last night will come to fruition Friday and they'll challenge Raquel and Aaliyah for the titles at Clash and win them back.

slik

08-30-2022, 06:12 PM

Didn’t catch this but he’s back to Matt Riddle.

Theory is back to Austin Theory as well

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 06:48 PM

I think Sasha & Naomi will be back and challenge for the Tag Titles at Survivor Series in November. The show is in Boston, which is Sasha’s hometown.

Good @ Matt Riddle and Austin Theory being back.

#1-norm-fan

08-30-2022, 07:33 PM

lol people can't tell me HHH is some saviour when he's heading the creative that's producing this dreck.

So far it seems like most of the pro-HHH era stuff has been “Guys who weren’t deemed good enough for the main roster are on the main roster now!”, “Matches are longer!” and “People are getting their last name back!”

I’m glad the change has drawn some eyes but forgive me if I’m still skeptical.

#1-norm-fan

08-30-2022, 07:33 PM

Also forgive me if I don’t obsessively post in the Raw thread every week as I guess that’s the proper way to show a lack of interest.

slik

08-30-2022, 10:49 PM

I like the longer matches because it means if something is coming up I'm not interested in I know I don't have to pay attention for 15-20 minutes, which is great on a 3 hour show.

Plus if you were there live you could go to concessions/restroom and not miss anything you actually wanted to see.

Fignuts

08-31-2022, 12:59 AM

I think the overall pacing has been better. 3 hours is still 3 hours, but Ido feel like its gone by faster lately.

Fignuts

08-31-2022, 01:12 AM

Like okay a stalker gimmick I guess but the kidnapping and stuff you mentioned is just trash. I mean there’s tons of fake shit in wrestling and when I was 11 I suppose I could put up with it but I honestly wasn’t hooked during the attitude era until 2000 because of how silly the storylines were. So I’ve never loved the storylines that stretched reality to this point, and hhh is supposed to add realism and cohesiveness to the product and this ain’t it.

I mean, what do you want? Cause its not like the 2000's didn't have their fair share of unrealistic gimmicks. Are you looking for it to be more real sports grounded like new japan?

08-31-2022, 03:38 AM

So far it seems like most of the pro-HHH era stuff has been “Guys who weren’t deemed good enough for the main roster are on the main roster now!”, “Matches are longer!” and “People are getting their last name back!”

I’m glad the change has drawn some eyes but forgive me if I’m still skeptical.

Not even remotely true.

Riddle and Theory got their first names back.

08-31-2022, 03:53 AM

Feel like Sliks prediction of Sasha and Naomi returning last night will come to fruition Friday and they'll challenge Raquel and Aaliyah for the titles at Clash and win them back.

Friday’s episode has been taped. Let’s see if they show up at the Castle show on Saturday.

08-31-2022, 03:53 AM

That said, setting it up against a face team would be a weird way to go.

Mr. Nerfect

08-31-2022, 05:05 AM

I mean, what do you want? Cause its not like the 2000's didn't have their fair share of unrealistic gimmicks. Are you looking for it to be more real sports grounded like new japan?

I’ve always found the Dexter Lumis stuff to be largely shit. It’s not necessarily a knock on the guy, but the gimmick is just way too much. And the name is a little on-the-nose too. You can be a little more grounded and mature by shedding that extra “there’s no way someone like that could ever exist” vibe.

I didn’t like The Fiend or Braun Strowman either for similar reasons. They’re cheesy as shit.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-31-2022, 06:41 AM

I mean, what do you want? Cause its not like the 2000's didn't have their fair share of unrealistic gimmicks. Are you looking for it to be more real sports grounded like new japan?

It doesn't need to be super real. And while 2000 had its moments of silliness (Mae Young hand birth, the culmination of the Autin whodunnit storyline), the meat of it with Chris Kreski at the helm avoided the utter shite.

I think I draw the line at stalker/kidnapping stuff. Like at that point, just have your wrestlers rob banks or sell coke on TV since apparently, they can get away with everything.

drave

08-31-2022, 08:48 AM

drave

08-31-2022, 08:50 AM

It doesn't need to be super real. And while 2000 had its moments of silliness (Mae Young hand birth, the culmination of the Autin whodunnit storyline), the meat of it with Chris Kreski at the helm avoided the utter shite.

I think I draw the line at stalker/kidnapping stuff. Like at that point, just have your wrestlers rob banks or sell coke on TV since apparently, they can get away with everything.

But an undead dude can turn into a biker and then back again amirite.

If it were up to you, we'd have Bret the Shitman Shart and Lance Storm as your 10x champs with all the straps and everyone would sleep within the first 5 mins

Sorry, Robb Banks is a taken gimmick in Sudistic Wrasslin. Cannot infringe.:fu:

Fignuts

08-31-2022, 09:42 AM

It doesn't need to be super real. And while 2000 had its moments of silliness (Mae Young hand birth, the culmination of the Autin whodunnit storyline), the meat of it with Chris Kreski at the helm avoided the utter shite.

I think I draw the line at stalker/kidnapping stuff. Like at that point, just have your wrestlers rob banks or sell coke on TV since apparently, they can get away with everything.

Can see where you're coming from. I guess I don't care as much as long as its not the main event. Like, the kidnapping stuff with Joe Gacy and Bron Breaker bothered me. This, not so much, since its the undercard and it involves the miz who is a more entertainment based wrestler anyway.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-31-2022, 10:09 AM

But an undead dude can turn into a biker and then back again amirite.

If it were up to you, we'd have Bret the Shitman Shart and Lance Storm as your 10x champs with all the straps and everyone would sleep within the first 5 mins

Sorry, Robb Banks is a taken gimmick in Sudistic Wrasslin. Cannot infringe.:fu:

Tbh the taker stuff is why I didn’t watch as much raw as most. Thought he was too silly. Didn’t love American Badass either cuz he was boring.

Mr. Nerfect

08-31-2022, 08:10 PM

@Noidfect

Did you find the "get these hands" and "Im not finished with you yet" Braun also cheesy?

The choo-choo train Braun was dumb AF. Miss the days where he would follow Reigns around teh back, randomly yelling IM NOT FINISHED WITH YOU YET and obliterating him.

THAT Braun pls

I did. It’s a little bit his name, a little bit how he was presented with The Wyatts, a little bit the production around his “feats of strength.” He was just way too cartoonish for my tastes.

Mr. Nerfect

09-01-2022, 11:21 AM

But hey, looks like you might get your wish.

drave

09-01-2022, 12:39 PM

I believe in WWE 3.0

xrodmuc316

09-01-2022, 01:31 PM

I believe in WWE 3.0

This is more like WWE 8.0, but it is better than WWE 7.0 thusfar.

Evil Vito

09-01-2022, 02:02 PM

Braun officially going back to WWE

Pictured: EC3

https://media2.giphy.com/media/yWYqvOLN15R6M/200.gif

ClockShot

09-01-2022, 04:01 PM

Braun officially going back to WWE

Pictured: EC3

https://media2.giphy.com/media/yWYqvOLN15R6M/200.gif

Thanks, Triple H.

Step 1 in getting me to watch again.

09-01-2022, 04:03 PM

Hmmm. I could do without Braun tbh.

Sepholio

09-01-2022, 08:41 PM

I'm for it. Way better "giant" than Omos rn. Gives Omos more time to develop hopefully before Braun puts him over as the next monster, maybe at like WM40.

Sepholio

09-01-2022, 08:46 PM

Between Tyson Fury and his rumored eventual match with Drew and now Braun coming back (he's not finished with Roman yet), Kross and whatever he's up to and Theory still running around...there is def some kind of chicanes happening around the main event.

Can see them maybe having Theory come away with a title. He'll think the match is for both, but it isn't, it's only one of them. He goes back to RAW with his new title and I won't be surprised if he is fed to someone Monday night on RAW to get a new champ who will carry the belt for a bit. Either that or we get a tournament to name a #1 contender to the now RAW title, whichever it is, probably to culminate in a match vs Theory at whatever the next PPV is or Crown Jewel if they do that in October again.

Sepholio

09-01-2022, 08:52 PM

Actually maybe have the finals of the tournament at the next PPV/Crown Jewel and then the title match at Survivor Series. Give time to build the title feud.

Also, with the drastically increased focus on actual wrestling since Haitch took over, a tournament does seem rather in order. Can always book it to advance some other feuds too. Maybe end up with some match ups like Damian Priest v Edge and Rey Mysterio v Finn Balor, stuff like that. Wouldn't shock me at all if a tournament right now ended up in a Riddle v Rollins II rematch at the next PPV, winner to get the title shot.

Sepholio

09-01-2022, 08:57 PM

Wouldn't be surprised to see Bray back v soon with Braun back now. Wonder if they bring back Rowan too.

Sepholio

09-01-2022, 08:59 PM

Wyatt Family 2.0 with Alexa gonna show Judgement Day + Dom Mysterio how to do the "dark" gimmick correctly.

Mr. Nerfect

09-01-2022, 09:41 PM

I could see Braun costing Drew.

Lock Jaw

09-01-2022, 10:56 PM

Bring back THE RYBACK instead

xrodmuc316

09-02-2022, 12:54 AM

Bring back THE RYBACK instead

Could you imagine the downward spiral Phil would experience if Ryback got to main event a Wrestlemania :rant::rant::rant:

Would be EPIC!

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 03:02 AM

I can also see Braun helping Drew win.

Stu Hart

09-02-2022, 03:20 AM

Raw threads have less pages than the TNA / impact pages

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 03:23 AM

A good indicator that internet opinion isn’t the barometer you should be using.

drave

09-02-2022, 07:48 AM

7 pages for a PPV. Weak as shit.

But HIAC went only 3 pages?

The past couple weekly show threads have struggled to get more than 1 page, with usually less than 5 people even being active in said threads.

If we are measuring success by thread length on an old wrasslin board ofc.

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 09:00 AM

I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but interest in wrestling is kind of dead.

drave

09-02-2022, 09:04 AM

Just make sure you don't use internet opinion to validate that

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 09:09 AM

Just make sure you don't use internet opinion to validate that

Thank goodness there are plenty of metrics that point to this conclusion.

drave

09-02-2022, 09:10 AM

Just not on the internet.

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 09:15 AM

Just not on the internet.

Do you think Raw or Dynamite is more popular?

drave

09-02-2022, 09:16 AM

I'm on the internet, therefore it doesn't matter.

Those are the rules I've been given.

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 09:18 AM

I'm on the internet, therefore it doesn't matter.

Those are the rules I've been given.

You’re getting closer to the truth. Still so far away, but you’re getting there.

drave

09-02-2022, 09:23 AM

Cool.

Thanks papa.

Sepholio

09-02-2022, 10:40 AM

Reports coming out that Bray is in Cardiff.

drave

09-02-2022, 02:42 PM

Bray or Fiend tho

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 03:05 PM

Cool.

Thanks papa.

I’m not your father. I can see why you’d be confused though.

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 03:06 PM

Reports coming out that Bray is in Cardiff.

I was really looking forward to Clash at the Castle.

Ruien

09-02-2022, 03:20 PM

When is Clash at the Castle? Is Peacock free or do I need to pay?

Mr. Nerfect

09-02-2022, 03:30 PM

It’ll be about 24 hours away. I can’t help you with Peacock. Most yanks seem to pay diddly for it.

#1-norm-fan

09-02-2022, 03:33 PM

There are tiers but I don’t think the free version allows you to watch live events.

Lock Jaw

09-02-2022, 08:03 PM

Could perhaps be the return of the Bray-Ex-Machina where when they don't know how to end a match and don't want either guys to lose, they just have Wyatt show up and attack them for some reason.