AEW: Collision Megathread

[GD]

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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's official!<br><br>Our opening theme for Saturday Night <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWCollision?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWCollision</a> on TNT is<br>Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting by Sir Elton John!<br><br>While <a href="https://twitter.com/FulhamFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FulhamFC</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/WatfordFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WatfordFC</a> will never be best mates on the pitch, you're now a great friend to <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/eltonofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@eltonofficial</a>, and we salute you, Sir!</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1669835634301698053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jim Ross apparently will only be calling Collision's main event so the show has a commentary duo: Kevin Kelly and Nigel McGuinness! <a href="https://t.co/MicCH5xiWB">pic.twitter.com/MicCH5xiWB</a></p>&mdash; Drainmaker ��️ �� (@DrainBamager) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1669899171296604161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the official AEW Collision intro with Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting!<br><br>I already dig it so much. <a href="https://t.co/k88h1jts2F">pic.twitter.com/k88h1jts2F</a></p>&mdash; Drainmaker ��️ �� (@DrainBamager) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1669888376189886465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Was maybe gonna "check it out" to "see" what AEW puts forward to "offer" on a "new show" that might have "more eyes" on it... but I see it isn't airing live in Canada, not airing until 10PM. Too late to start watching for my blood... especially having to wake up early tomorrow for work.

[slik]

I can't watch live so I will have to dvr

[Sepholio]

Just a nit pick, but while I love the intro song I do not love the video package. Seems to not match the upbeat/"bright" feel of the tune if that makes sense. Video looks like it was made for generic heavy metal intro with explosions.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Excellent song choice tbh. Glad to see Miro coming back. Hobbs getting more TV time is a good thing. Don’t care about Scorpio Sky anymore. He’s whatever.

[Lock Jaw]

Just a nit pick, but while I love the intro song I do not love the video package. Seems to not match the upbeat/"bright" feel of the tune if that makes sense. Video looks like it was made for generic heavy metal intro with explosions.

Video was 100% not made with that song in mind

[XL]

Didn’t realise it launched today. Great stuff. Already the best show of the week.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Is JR ageing really that funny, fuckrod?

[Sepholio]

Yes

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Is it?

[Sepholio]

Tis.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

An old man fell and smashed his face. I'm howling.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Xrod is just sad and lonely and this is the only place he gets attention, obvs. Makes me yearn for droford.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Collision video doesn’t match the song. It’s also going to be funny if they have to change it because they get booted to another night.

[Mr. Nerfect]

No one gets AEW in Australia. If it were on TV, I MIGHT give it a chance. I want there to be a good AEW to put the bad AEW on notice so bad. Have a feeling they’re going to do all they can to shoot themselves in the foot though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I mean, you’re featuring Luchasaurus on the first show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Glad Kevin Kelly is probably getting paid $500k a year now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Looking forward to the political disaster that ensues if Collision either:

A) Flops.

B) Succeeds.

There are people with executive positions in the company that don’t want this to do well. That’s insane to me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why is Orange Cassidy being involved in this show? It defeats the purpose of having a CM Punk or a second straight-forward show at all. I hope he’s just got an International Champion placeholder slot.

[xrodmuc316]

An old man fell and smashed his face. I'm howling.

Xrod is just sad and lonely and this is the only place he gets attention, obvs. Makes me yearn for droford.


You guys don't even know a callback from this very site???

https://i.imgflip.com/4ldjzj.jpg

It's not funny because he is old, it's funny because him saying they beat WWE every week is akin to somebody claiming they won a fight when looking like that.

Sensitive!

[Frank Drebin]

Drebin is on site with exclusive reports for all of TPWW's wrestling fans!

First one to spot Drebin in the crowd gets a prize. Look for the "Seph + Dale < Noid" sign.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hope you have a good time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Does JR claim that AEW beats WWE? That sounds like more of a Chris Jericho, Dave Meltzer or Matt Hardy thing.

[Frank Drebin]

Not a sellout. Hard cam side fairly bare. No one in the upper deck so they didn't sell those seats. Other side fairly full.

Was a legit sellout for punks return last time.

[erickman]

pipe bomb time

[erickman]

people with jim cornette shirts

[#1-norm-fan]

Just a nit pick, but while I love the intro song I do not love the video package. Seems to not match the upbeat/"bright" feel of the tune if that makes sense. Video looks like it was made for generic heavy metal intro with explosions.

Yeah. Needs more of a retro light show vibe. Fucking fantastic song choice though. I want someone to make an 80s intro with it.

[Evil Vito]

Hahahaha Christian celebrating with the title is so brilliant.

[Fignuts]

Good hoss match.

Christian celebrating like he won it is great.

[#1-norm-fan]

No one gets AEW in Australia.

Didn’t think we’d get any more additions to this after AEW got a TV deal in Australia but… LET’S GO!

For those wondering, AEW has 0 deals in Australia, because it isn’t very good.

AEW doesn’t even have TV in Australia.

I’m in Australia. AEW does not have a TV deal over here.

they don’t even have a slot in Australia, which is a pretty big market to miss out on.

AEW doesn’t have a TV deal in Australia.

AEW don’t even have a TV deal in Australia because NO ONE GIVES A FUCK.

No one gets AEW in Australia.

[#1-norm-fan]

So I’m guessing nothing noteworthy came from the Punk promo.

[Fignuts]

Expecting big things from this. These guys are fucking machines in the ring

[Fignuts]

So I’m guessing nothing noteworthy came from the Punk promo.

A few cheeky shots but nothing GAME CHANGING.

Still a really good promo. Worth a watch on youtube.

[Fignuts]

Andrade vs buddy delivered

Figure 8 at the finish was a nice touch

[Fignuts]

Have to believe this is leading to house of black vs LIJ at forbidden.

[erickman]

miro time

[erickman]

miro crush

[Fignuts]

Sooooooooo nice having good commentary in aew

[Fignuts]

Good showcase for miro's return.

[Fignuts]

This may have been the best first hour of AEW television I've ever seen.

[Fignuts]

Haven't been a fan of this whole outcasts thing, but I gotta say I like their aesthetic.

[erickman]

This may have been the best first hour of AEW television I've ever seen.

yeah it is a good start people who have not been on in a while

[Fignuts]

Oh god ruby soho has to be concussed wtf

[Fignuts]

Today I'm thankful for whoever made skye blue's tights

[Fignuts]

lol at nigel hamming it up during the cloverleaf.

[Fignuts]

Fucking blind tag halfway across the ring

LEARN THE FUCKING RULES

[Fignuts]

I 100% thought this was where the momentum was going to drop off. Awful blind tag aside, that was much better than I was expecting. Good stuff.

[Fignuts]

Hopefully punk doesn't get injured again

[Fignuts]

He does not look great tbh

[Fignuts]

Looks like hes been pounding those muffins

[Fignuts]

So does dax tbh

[erickman]

well ftr will do most the match

[Fignuts]

JR sounds awful. Admire the dedication but maybe he should have took the night off.

[Destor]

So I’m guessing nothing noteworthy came from the Punk promo.
Spent half his time pandering cheap pops. Pretty low effort promo.

[Destor]

Not a bad show though ftr

[rez]

Just tuning in

[Fignuts]

Ok now punk is looking good. That's reassuring.

[Fignuts]

Kinda want to see a punk vs jay white program.

[weather vane]

Love AEW.

[Fignuts]

Fucking great main event

[erickman]

poor juice takes the pin

[Fignuts]

poor juice takes the pin

Love juice, but that was the right play

[Fignuts]

If they can leave most of the dumb stuff on dynamite and deliver shows like this every week, then I'll tune in consistently.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sounds like a good show. I saw the Punk promo. Good stuff. A bit grossed out by Luchasaurus winning the TNT Title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christian Cage should be the TNT Champion and Luchasaurus should just wrestle jobbers for him when he doesn’t want to work.

[erickman]

If they can leave most of the dumb stuff on dynamite and deliver shows like this every week, then I'll tune in consistently.

guess jim cornett will stop watching wed and just review sat night too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There’s no need for Dynamite if they just make Collision good each week.

[erickman]

There’s no need for Dynamite if they just make Collision good each week.

tony needs his play wrestlers for wed nights

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m hoping Collision does well compared to Dynamite. It’d be fun if the Dynamite crew are faced with proof good wrestling can do well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think The Elite are waiting to sign their deals until they see how Collision goes so they can leave in a huff if they need to.

[Frank Drebin]

Drebin will be back with a report soon. Great show. Warm crowd hot at a few points. Tune in next week!

[Destor]

I’m hoping Collision does well compared to Dynamite. It’d be fun if the Dynamite crew are faced with proof good wrestling can do well.its on saturdays. Itll take a miracle to have any sustained success especially going head to head with wwe ppvs 25% of the year. If it does half of Dynamites numbers its the better show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

its on saturdays. Itll take a miracle to have any sustained success especially going head to head with wwe ppvs 25% of the year. If it does half of Dynamites numbers its the better show.

Yeah, that’s what I mean by comparatively. If it does anything close to Dynamite’s numbers, you’d have to expect some heads to melt. And maybe some notes from the network will start getting slipped.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Obviously haven’t been able to see the whole show, but man is it good having Kevin Kelly on commentary. Honestly, just having a wrestling show where the commentary doesn’t suck is something to appreciate and a huge point in its favor.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think it’s likely this hurts Dynamite. What are the reasons left to watch that show? I can see maybe 200k or so making Collision their new AEW priority — even if they DVR it.

And I could actually see Jim Cornette dropping Dynamite in favor of Collision too. Vote with your eyeballs.

[#1-norm-fan]

People don’t want to hear Cornette review shows he might actually enjoy. His “What the fuck!” rants are the only reason he reviews current wrestling to begin with.

I mean, personally I’d prefer he not review any current stuff at all but his hate rants are what draws.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m not sold on House of Black as a faction or the idea of Trios Titles. What they’ve put up of Andrade vs. Buddy Matthews was good though. Some attempts to tell a story by Matthews, which was always my criticism of him. He’s just spot, spot, spot — but if he’s got this in him, then good.

I hope La Faccion win the Trios Titles and then Buddy leaves the House and goes and does his own thing.

[Fignuts]

People don’t want to hear Cornette review shows he might actually enjoy. His “What the fuck!” rants are the only reason he reviews current wrestling to begin with.

I mean, personally I’d prefer he not review any current stuff at all but his hate rants are what draws.

Nah, they're rare enough that its like a special treat when he does it

[Mr. Nerfect]

My favorite thing about Cornette’s modern breakdowns is when he gets something good then nitpicks it because he knows the guys will listen and be able to take it on. It’s a long time ago now, but he did it with American Alpha and Revival back in the day. You feel his passion peak and he starts going into overdrive in a positive way and it really hits you. I think he’ll probably do that with Collision, because even I noticed some obvious set-piece kind of stuff in the clips of the main event. I’m expecting a “it was really good, boys, but next time try it this way…”

[Mr. Nerfect]

When I say I can see him dropping Dynamite, I can see him dropping full-scale reviews. He’ll still do “Did you see this, Brian?” bits. Because people do love the rants. But I think he’ll push himself and his audience over to Collision, even if just to help the point.

[Stu Hart]

AEW got it right. Its confident and smartly booked.
Enough of hints towards future feuds, great main event.
A nice mix of new and old stars.

WWE feels stale compared to this.

[Frank Drebin]

If they can leave most of the dumb stuff on dynamite and deliver shows like this every week, then I'll tune in consistently.

This is what I've been saying. They hopefully put all the guys who have the worst....let's call it.... "talent / utilization ratio" and gave them a much better platform. Wrestling on Saturday. Cartoons on Wednesday.

Christian Cage should be the TNT Champion and Luchasaurus should just wrestle jobbers for him when he doesn’t want to work.

Thatsssssss.....what it kinda looks like they're going to do in the short term, actually.

People don’t want to hear Cornette review shows he might actually enjoy. His “What the fuck!” rants are the only reason he reviews current wrestling to begin with.

I mean, personally I’d prefer he not review any current stuff at all but his hate rants are what draws.

They just want to hear analysis. Its just as interesting when he says something couldn't have been pulled off any better and why.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To clarify: I both want Christian Cage to declare himself as above the TNT Title, but also have the strap over his shoulder and say “our title.”

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Skimmed through it. Seemed good. Would probably have watched more of the Andrade v Buddy match if I had time.

If they add more titles for this show though then I’m out altogether. Brand splits and two world titles were the worst thing to ever happen to WWE. There’s already too many belts in AEW as it is, along with all their affiliates like ROH and NJPW. I assume they’ll be going with another world title though with punk having a belt in his bag.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Punk's promo was very good (albeit not his best work and I'm not sure he was trying for an all-timer). He's a great orator. If you didn't like it, you just have a hard-on for him.

[rez]

Good show. Didn't even fast forward once

[Evil Vito]

Very solid debut episode I thought. Lots of good hard-hitting action. Might not be able to watch live most weeks but I’m intrigued so far.

[Evil Vito]

Andrade/Buddy in particular was the tits.

[Evil Vito]

I don’t mind Luchasaurus as TNT champion because Christian acting like he won the title is great stuff.

I dig the TNT Title mostly being contested between hosses. It’s a nice distinction with Cassidy having 15 minute title defenses against workhorse-style guys every Wednesday.

[Evil Vito]

They got me to bite in the main event. When they showed Dax and Cash being held at bay by BCG repeatedly, I thought Punk might’ve actually lost via passing out to the choke from Joe and that would’ve been a fascinating social experiment with that crowd.

[Evil Vito]

Think they might do Punk vs Jay White next week if Punk isn’t booked at Forbidden Door

Can see NJPW not wanting White at the PPV feeling it might violate the loser leaves NJPW stip

[Destor]

Punk's promo was very good (albeit not his best work and I'm not sure he was trying for an all-timer). He's a great orator. If you didn't like it, you just have a hard-on for him.he literally spent 4 minutes pandering with cheap pops. You've got it backward. If you thought that was anything other than a run of the mill promo youve got a hard on for him. It was lazy work. I a month that promo will never come up again.

[#1-norm-fan]

Nah, they're rare enough that its like a special treat when he does it

Right, but if the assumption is that he might switch over because the show is good then it’s no longer special after a while.

I have a feeling this will just get added to the rotation unfortunately.

[xrodmuc316]

he literally spent 4 minutes pandering with cheap pops. You've got it backward. If you thought that was anything other than a run of the mill promo youve got a hard on for him. It was lazy work. I a month that promo will never come up again.

Phil Mark's gonna Mark!

You just have to like Phil because I like Phil, otherwise you just don't like Phil because you are attracted to Phil!

Come on man lol

[Fignuts]

Right, but if the assumption is that he might switch over because the show is good then it’s no longer special after a while.

I have a feeling this will just get added to the rotation unfortunately.

Drebin has it right. I think you underestimate how much people enjoy jim's analysis, regardless of whether it's positive or negative.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk’s promo was good. Not an all-timer, as Dale said, but it ticked all the boxes. It addressed where he was and created a narrative about his crowd reaction (“cheer me, boo me, love me, hate me”). The Bucks jab was good. Set the show up as not being about “deserving” it, or about match quality, but about the kayfabe.

He was in a tough spot and he overachieved considering his work was going to be under a microscope.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Someone got into the guys’ ears about how to work too. You’re getting stories coming out of the action. Way better than the usual Dynamite fare.

[xrodmuc316]

Went out of my way to watch Andrade vs Buddy, it was a very good decision. Awesome match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

My prediction is that MJF has some sort of retort to Punk’s promo (oh yeah, forgot to mention how Punk’s promo very slyly set that up). My guess is that he says he’ll be at Dynamite to confront 1 Bill Phil. That’s a smokescreen for setting up the Punk/Joe stuff. MJF will set Punk up, Joe will hurt him. If Punk has a match advertised, a re-aggravated injury will come into play to milk drama. Then Joe will come out and officially challenge the injured Punk or whatever.

We’ll also see Christian Cage and Luchasaurus interviewed by Tony Shiavone. Likely interrupted by the next challenger for the TNT Title.

I think Wardlow might turn heel and fire Arn Anderson, but that could be on Dynamite.

Andrade and La Faccion will win the Trios Titles next week.

Ruby Soho is likely to beat Skye Blue. This sets up a heel beat down with Willow not being enough to make the save, enter Thunder Rosa.

It’s all lined up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Went out of my way to watch Andrade vs Buddy, it was a very good decision. Awesome match.

Best work I’ve seen out of Buddy, easily. Smart to sell the leg. It played into the finish and began to tease that there’s a babyface in the guy so he can turn and feud with Malakai Black and have that string of matches in AEW.

The finish with the Figure Eight was clever to pop the crowd. Felt a bit like Kurt Angle grapevining the leg in the Ankle Lock. And again, it played off the actual story injury.

Strong thumbs up. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Miro looked fantastic in his match with Nese. Nigel was great on the call in that too. Popped me with the “Plan B…Plan C” line. Did everything it was supposed to do for Miro, who looked like he was having a blast out there (and not in a bad way, felt “emotional”).

[rez]

Best work I’ve seen out of Buddy, easily. Smart to sell the leg. It played into the finish and began to tease that there’s a babyface in the guy so he can turn and feud with Malakai Black and have that string of matches in AEW.

The finish with the Figure Eight was clever to pop the crowd. Felt a bit like Kurt Angle grapevining the leg in the Ankle Lock. And again, it played off the actual story injury.

Strong thumbs up. :y:

:eek:

[Mr. Nerfect]

The women’s match seemed a little goofy, but AEW women’s division sucks. I can appreciate they tried to get their female “stars” on the show and the choice to put over Willow & Skye was good. Liked the matching aesthetic of the teams. Skye Blue has a good ass and Willow has got something. Not a home run, but fine, especially for what I’ve seen from them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk criticism: I don’t like the long tights on him still. It not only seems mid-card, but the design just never looks filled out enough. I liked the colors this week, but I dunno. Feels like what a guy would wear when they know they’re not in ring shape.

Adam Cole needs to go to long tights. Punk needs to find the thing that works for the guy he is. If he’s not comfortable in trunks, maybe short-legged trunks, like bike shorts, or even shorts with a tank top (like an updated ROH look).

Claudio Castagnoli is another guy that just doesn’t look right in long tights.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Acclaimed and Billy Gunn are a good act. A lot of energy for their stuff. Seems weird they’re still building to a Trios Title shot when there already seems to be a plan for those belts.

Hate those belts, by the way. They shouldn’t exist. Nothing wrong with doing six-man tags that can fuel the established tag and singles divisions. But it would still be weird with The Acclaimed because it’s hard to think of many decent heel teams in AEW.

[Frank Drebin]

No joke, noid's best page of thoughts. V spot on. I hope they continue the momentum.

During the post show promo, Dax was talking about how it wasn't Collision vs. Dynamite but it totally is. Will be interesting to see what Dynamite does because the initial card looks like dog shit compared to what Collision was.

They didn't even get to use Starks, Hobbs or Rosa live yet. Don't blow this, Tony.

[Volare]

Finally we are back to the old days of debating matches instead of flaming each other for a cheap pop. Might come back now instead of ghosting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When there’s good wrestling to discuss, it helps.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, hearing Meltzer and Alvarez dance around this show is amazing.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol how are they dancing around it? (I'm legit curious because I don't listen to them much).

[xrodmuc316]

lol how are they dancing around it? (I'm legit curious because I don't listen to them much).

I havent listened, nor would I, but I am guessing they are downplaying anything that doesn't involve The Elite.

Meltzer is the ultimate idiot. He NEVER rated a single Kurt Angle match 5 stars. He didn't even give 5 stars to Taker vs HBK at Mania 25.

He has given Jon Moxley, the guy who cant throw knees strikes and blatantly cuts his own head on camera FIVE 5 star matches.

Jon Moxley.

Seriously. Jon Moxley has five matches rated better by this idiot than ANY match Kurt Angle EVER had.

How is he given any credence in the Wrestling industry?

[XL]

His ratings mean less now than when Kurt had his run. Doesn’t he go past 5 stars now?

[Lock Jaw]

Damn inflation

[Sepholio]

His ratings mean less now than when Kurt had his run. Doesn’t he go past 5 stars now?

As high as 7 stars. But only if the match is in the Tokyo Dome.

[Sepholio]

And Kenny Omega has to approve for it to get 6 stars.

[XL]

Does he go 7/5 to show just how good it is, or is it just a 7 star scale now?

[Mr. Nerfect]

lol how are they dancing around it? (I'm legit curious because I don't listen to them much).

I’ll try to be as accurate as possible. And I don’t listen to them much either, but I just had to see how Dave would respond. “Danced around” might have been the wrong phrasing from me. But you can tell they don’t really have anything to say, but have their marching orders to say something.

So they didn’t completely trash the show, but their primary focus was on it being “okay, but…” because nothing was announced for the next week. They would eventually half-way plug Dynamite as the place you’ll have to go to find out what’s happening, and poor Excalibur has to hype everything.

Dave um’d and ah’d over the Punk promo. You could tell he didn’t like it, but he had nothing to say about it. When Bryan was recapping it and he got to the magntitude line, Dave actually made a noise that sounded like verbal disagreement. Dave then went into how it’s funny Punk is talking about business, because if the line Punk said about The Bucks doesn’t lead to a match and if The Bucks and Omega leave, it’s not good for business, but Punk gets what he wants. And he might say he wants to work with them, and he does, but ultimately what he wants is for them to leave and AEW to be hurt.

Bryan did try to get away without saying anything about the promo. Dave stopped him and said he has to say something and Bryan was like “It was a promo!” Bryan tried to muster up fake confusion as to why Punk would bring up MJF if they’re not going to be IMMEDIATELY working together. Dave said that he doesn’t think they should work immediately together. Dave wouldn’t say that should be the Wembley match and specifically mentioned Chicago as a place for it, but said it should happen later. Bryan could not get past why Punk would bring up the unfinished business with MJF. But hey, you do a promo for your audience, and that worked for this audience. So they still want to do the “Punk is the bad guy” thing, but can’t articulate why.

They tried to bury the obvious booking of the women’s tag. Dave tried to pick it apart by saying Skye Blue was the odd choice to win, even though it was in Chicago. He says that Willow should have won the match because Toni just beat Skye Blue.

They did praise the Andrade/Matthews match.

Dave made funny noises around the booking of Wardlow after Bryan said they’ve seen him lose a lot. “Umm, mmm, hmm, well…maybe…we’ll see.” I’m not making fun of his verbal tick, he just refused to say something he knew.

The Acclaimed segment was recapped as pointless, but the crowd liked it, so whatever.

Bryan called the main event “LOOOOOONG” (same with the promo). They do say it was good. Bryan tries to trash Punk not being in there long, Dave actually does say that’s how it should have gone. Bryan kind of pouts and it feels like he hit the mild criticism of how nothing was explicitly announced for week 2 like it was the most egregious booking decision of the past year.

No mention of how talent seemed to be working with more of a focus on selling or anything.

It’s just funny to me how a show that basically got universal acclaim seemed to get torn apart by the Elite’s guys, without them really being able to articulate why, or making themselves sound like idiots in the process.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, and Dave brought up the Tupelo Concession Stand Brawls and pretended he didn’t know who was in the second, “better” one (kept trying to downplay the first) and called them tame by today, which you just know was done to put his name into Cornette’s mouth.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Does he go 7/5 to show just how good it is, or is it just a 7 star scale now?

To be fair, it does seem to be an ever-changing scale. It’s just self-parodying and Dave has bad taste.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t know why I expected from the Observer guys. I knew it could have been something like “it was okay, I guess…” but I was half-way expecting a “yeah, great job Tony Khan and team!”

But it’s just weird, because the show seems to have gotten a pretty universe thumbs up, and now they’re the ones being “old men yelling at clouds” as the tired ciriticism of Cornette used to be. I’m sure he’ll be explain to what worked and what didn’t, but where Meltzer and Alvarez are out of their depth is that they really can’t.

Now I’m really pulling for Collision to do alright in the ratings. Because if it’s numbers are anything close to Dynamite’s, it’s going to make the schadenfreude of those two trying to excuse it away pretty funny.

Sorry if I sound mean to those guys, but I just loathe the inaccurate coverage AEW has gotten since it’s inception. It really strikes me as unethical from people who do have influence over and audience and are going to believe the manipulations. Even if you want AEW to succeed more than anything else in life, don’t shelter them from the truth for their own sakes.

[Sepholio]

Does he go 7/5 to show just how good it is, or is it just a 7 star scale now?

It's 5/5 still. However 1 point is added to any score Kenny Omega agrees with, making 6/5 possible. And if that match took place in the Tokyo Dome then another point is added making 7/5 possible.

Look I don't make the rules, I'm just telling you how it works.

[Lock Jaw]

Sorry if I sound mean to those guys, but I just loathe the inaccurate coverage AEW has gotten since it’s inception. It really strikes me as unethical from people who do have influence over and audience and are going to believe the manipulations. Even if you want AEW to succeed more than anything else in life, don’t shelter them from the truth for their own sakes.

Carny "journalists" of a carny business manipulating their audience to get their money?! :eek:

[GD]

How do you think CM Punk became popular in the first place?

[xrodmuc316]

How do you think CM Punk became popular in the first place?

OHHHH I KNOW I KNOW!!!

All the people who are delusional enough to believe they are world class badass fighters believe in Punk, because in spite of all the evidence of him losing fights while getting pinched and tickled, he powers on in the belief that he is a world class badass, and not a 170 pound 44 year old who trained for 3 and a half years in MMA to place 3rd in a 3 person MMA Senior Tournament!

7lRPYrVzDAU

GfGT_4z9YTc

[Mr. Nerfect]

Carny "journalists" of a carny business manipulating their audience to get their money?! :eek:

I’m not shocked, I’m just increasingly annoyed. Especially as a smaller and smaller audience seems to be the target for an increasing amount of bullshit.

I do believe Meltzer once had more reliable sources and insight. I think social media and his strategies have closed off some areas to him now though — so he just bullshits (even more than he used to).

[xrodmuc316]

https://i.imgflip.com/7pzbfr.jpg

[Tom Guycott]

Andrade vs buddy delivered

Figure 8 at the finish was a nice touch

Skimmed through it. Seemed good. Would probably have watched more of the Andrade v Buddy match if I had time.
.

Andrade/Buddy in particular was the tits.

Went out of my way to watch Andrade vs Buddy, it was a very good decision. Awesome match.

Best work I’ve seen out of Buddy, easily. Smart to sell the leg. It played into the finish and began to tease that there’s a babyface in the guy so he can turn and feud with Malakai Black and have that string of matches in AEW.

The finish with the Figure Eight was clever to pop the crowd. Felt a bit like Kurt Angle grapevining the leg in the Ankle Lock. And again, it played off the actual story injury.

Strong thumbs up. :y:


I was initially coming here to bitch about how nobody seemed to be giving love to this match, but it picked up near the end.

However, I'm actually surprised about the comments about Andrade's Figure Eight, but lack of comments about Buddy's Gorilla Clutch. They BOTH paid homage to thier significant others.


Does he go 7/5 to show just how good it is, or is it just a 7 star scale now?

To be fair, it does seem to be an ever-changing scale. It’s just self-parodying and Dave has bad taste.

It's 5/5 still. However 1 point is added to any score Kenny Omega agrees with, making 6/5 possible. And if that match took place in the Tokyo Dome then another point is added making 7/5 possible.

Look I don't make the rules, I'm just telling you how it works.

It has come to my attention from this particular collection of posts that Dave Meltzer - whether intentionally or unintentionally - has co-opted the old "Perfect 5/7" meme and is using it unironically.

[Tom Guycott]

Also, as far as the CM Punk promo: it wasn't the best, but it didn't have to be.

For all that it was and wasn't, for any of the "cheap pop" criticisms, one thing he does - that he has always done - is choose his words very carefully.

The best part about it, to me, wasn't neccessarily the substance. As noted, he didn't really say shit "totally scorched earth" or "ground shattering" like a lot of folks were expecting. No, the one thing about this promo, though, is that it seemed like a quick re-introduction mixed with a potental teased heel turn sooner than later after this initial "we missed you" effect wears down some. Maybe I read too much into that, but more likely than not, the door is open. Especially with the "magnitude of me" portion. It was a very true statement pretty well exhibited by lots of cursory clickbaity social media "outlet" and every mook with a mic trying to get juice off of "wrestling newz" with at least a thumbnail or a mention of CM Punk even if he has little to do with the content. Not many people illicit that kind of response, but with him, it's a guarantee. At the same time, admitting it makes it sound less matter-of-fact and more arrogant. Pretty sure he's aware of that, and if it makes sense to use that arrogance for actual heat, he isn't above it. He's the same guy who said that one of his proudest moments was when he was doing the SES messiah stuff, he got an angry old lady in the crowd to slap him and tell him that he "was going to hell" because she was invested enough to actually believe it.

Overall point was, it served it's purpose. It wasn't "another pipebomb", and it wasn't supposed to be. His every word isn't going to be the greatest promo to ever promo. Nobody's is.

[GD]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Also, as far as the CM Punk promo: it wasn't the best, but it didn't have to be.

For all that it was and wasn't, for any of the "cheap pop" criticisms, one thing he does - that he has always done - is choose his words very carefully.

The best part about it, to me, wasn't neccessarily the substance. As noted, he didn't really say shit "totally scorched earth" or "ground shattering" like a lot of folks were expecting. No, the one thing about this promo, though, is that it seemed like a quick re-introduction mixed with a potental teased heel turn sooner than later after this initial "we missed you" effect wears down some. Maybe I read too much into that, but more likely than not, the door is open. Especially with the "magnitude of me" portion. It was a very true statement pretty well exhibited by lots of cursory clickbaity social media "outlet" and every mook with a mic trying to get juice off of "wrestling newz" with at least a thumbnail or a mention of CM Punk even if he has little to do with the content. Not many people illicit that kind of response, but with him, it's a guarantee. At the same time, admitting it makes it sound less matter-of-fact and more arrogant. Pretty sure he's aware of that, and if it makes sense to use that arrogance for actual heat, he isn't above it. He's the same guy who said that one of his proudest moments was when he was doing the SES messiah stuff, he got an angry old lady in the crowd to slap him and tell him that he "was going to hell" because she was invested enough to actually believe it.

Overall point was, it served it's purpose. It wasn't "another pipebomb", and it wasn't supposed to be. His every word isn't going to be the greatest promo to ever promo. Nobody's is.

it was the right promo at the right time. These guys aren't wrestling each other any time soon so going scorched earth would be entirely pointless.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It doesn’t mean anything to most fans either. The drama that should matter is the drama in front of the cameras. Punk is possibly the best ever at bringing the backstage into kayfabe, but it makes more sense for Punk to take digs at MJF than it does Omega and The Bucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Andrade/Brody King doesn’t have me excited. King doesn’t do it for me. There are rumors that LIJ will get involved and help out Andrade. Okay? There are already too many tags on Forbidden Door. Whatever.

Nyla Rose vs. Willow will hopefully get painless. Willow should go over.

Swerve Strickland vs. Tanahashi should be a good showcase for Tanahashi. I wonder if MJF is there?

The main event should be good. Another strong win for the babyfaces. I can see Punk wishing Tanahashi good luck for his match against Swerve.

My guess is we’ll see either Joe/Strong or Hobbs/Dustin in the Owen tournament. I’d probably go with Hobbs/Dustin for this show and announce Joe/Strong and Starks/Juice for the following week.

I hope Miro is announced as Darby & Sting’s partner.

[rez]

Let's see if Kahn can catch lightning in a bottle twice.

[rez]

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[rez]

the one the only!!!!!!!!!! oh damnit.

[rez]

THE OCHO IS HERE

[Fignuts]

Jericho's hair looks like a homeless person's hair.

[rez]

Fuck yes

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Naito is the correct choice

[rez]

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[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh are we getting Tanahashi and Swerve on free tv? Let’s go

[Fignuts]

Hate to say it, but Tanahashi looks like Nagata in 2017. Mobile, but not very.

I don't want to say he was the wrong choice, because he and MJF are both great storytellers, and may be able to work past Tana's limitations.

However that swerve match did not inspire confidence.

[Fignuts]

Naito is the correct choice

Yeah, I'm okay with naito not teaming with andrade against HoB now.

Although that makes me more angry about Jungle Boy vs Sanada. Malakai vs Sanada could have stole match of the night.

[Fignuts]

Omg nigel's analysis of a simple pin is so good.

Just give dynamite to kelly and mcguiness.

And Raw.

And Smackdown

[Fignuts]

Jesus fuck @ those cannonballs

[Fignuts]

First hour was good. Tanahashi may be a little sluggish these days, but hes still a veteran, so it wasn't terrible. Everything else was really entertaining.

[erickman]

cage working for heel heat

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah, I'm okay with naito not teaming with andrade against HoB now.

Although that makes me more angry about Jungle Boy vs Sanada. Malakai vs Sanada could have stole match of the night.

Jungle Boy makes me mad regardless. I know whoever the opponent is has to job, but give me Samoa Joe, give me Swerve, give me Rush, give me Bandido, give me Lethal, give me Jarrett, give me anyone else

[Fignuts]

lol for a few seconds there I legitimately forgot that luchasaurus is champion and not Christian.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Sanada vs Jarrett would be an absolute banger

[Fignuts]

Lady hoss match

[Fignuts]

lol "moose licker"

Well played, nyla.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Willow rules.

[Fignuts]

Couple rough spots in the beginning but god damn what a strong finish. Willow vs Nyla was pretty good overall.

Second week in a row I thought the women were going to drop the ball and I was proved wrong.

[Fignuts]

Willow rules.

She's still pretty green, but there's massive potential there. She's already fun to watch despite her inexperience.

[rez]

I want a buddy cop movie starring Powerhouse Hobbs and Danhausen

[Fignuts]

Squash match for hobbs is the right move.

[Fignuts]

He should sqush dustin too

[Fignuts]

And I say that as someone who likes dustin.

[slik]

Am I the only one who likes Gunn Club's entrance music?

[slik]

CM Trunks returns this week

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Toronto letting Punk have it. Love it. Makes his match with Kojima more fun.

[Fignuts]

lol toronto HATES cm punk

[xrodmuc316]

Am I the only one who likes Gunn Club's entrance music?

Remember when Tiny paid $1 million of his dad's money so they could come out to 50 Cent's song one time, in the match where they lost their titles? :rofl:

[rez]

I wonder if Rhi is at the show

[Fignuts]

The energy of this crowd is amazing right now

[slik]

Pepsi Phil getting the biggest reactions of anyone in A E Dub

[slik]

The man in this commercial is way too excited about La Quinta Inn

[Fignuts]

Bullet club and the gunns are putting on some of the best tag heel work i've seen in a long time and they're getting cheered relentlessly because it's against cm punk lol

[GD]

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[slik]

Great main-event, good ending & makes you want to tune in next week because the story isn't over

[Fignuts]

Another great show.

Whoever tony has helping him writevand produce these collision shows needs to get signed to a 10 year deal.

[rez]

Another great show.

Whoever tony has helping him writevand produce these collision shows needs to get signed to a 10 year deal.

CM Punk, FTR, Jericho, Danielson, and probably more.

[Evil Vito]

Christian Cage acting as champion is my favorite thing

[Evil Vito]

Stu Grayson vs El Phantasmo on the Forbidden Door pre-show seems like it could be a belter

[weather vane]

Jericho's hair looks like a homeless person's hair.

Wish he would dye it super blonde.

[weather vane]

Hate to say it, but Tanahashi looks like Nagata in 2017. Mobile, but not very.

I don't want to say he was the wrong choice, because he and MJF are both great storytellers, and may be able to work past Tana's limitations.

However that swerve match did not inspire confidence.

Yeah will be interesting. He looked out of sorts.

[weather vane]

AEW is so good.

[weather vane]

MOOSELICKER!!! I like it.

[weather vane]

Love the Gunns.

[weather vane]

I love Juice.

[weather vane]

That main was super fun. Glad they gave Switchblade the win. So many possibilities. No idea where they are going to go.

[XL]

Great main-event, good ending & makes you want to tune in next week because the story isn't over

10 man tag next week?

[Lock Jaw]

I love Juice.

https://media.tenor.com/NK0qsiZBKgAAAAAM/laughing-omg.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

I thought Toronto was supposed to be a smart crowd? The show is being produced by him and his team, fools. When you like it, you’re liking his work.

[Tom Guycott]

it was the right promo at the right time.

Those words made me think of this promo, and I'm sorry in advance.

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[xrodmuc316]

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Fucking Bravo lol

[erickman]

ethan page now a face

[erickman]

good mjf match

[erickman]

i love this bullet club ftr punk fued

[Sepholio]

Collision thread is POPPING 2nite boys.

[erickman]

that was a good show so much better then the wed show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m rooting for Collision.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think it might be futile though lol.

[Lock Jaw]

They will be in Regina, Saskatchewan next week. Nothing says big time more than that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Card looks pretty great though.

[Tom Guycott]

They will be in Regina, Saskatchewan next week. Nothing says big time more than that.

Hey! Remember "The Shocker In Saskatoon"?!?

AEW might pull one of those, and have an unexpected World title change in Saskatchewan!

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is Ethan Page’s time to shine!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Listening to Cornette made me think that maybe CM Punk is carrying around a dog collar and not his replica AEW World Title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m not sure just how involved CM Punk is involved in creative, but one thing I like about Collision is the potential for little details to matter. I was thinking just before that CM Punk coming to Roderick Strong’s aid could actually become a MAJOR plot detail for their company:

Roderick Strong is friends with Adam Cole, who is currently doing that weird thing with MJF — the current AEW World Champion. They could be in line for an AEW World Tag Team Title shot. MJF has issues with Punk and history with FTR — the current Tag Team Champs. Punk’s friendship with Strong could place tensions on the “friendship” between MJF and Cole, which could place tensions on the friendship between Punk and FTR. Throw in Cole’s history with The Bullet Club, the potential to mix MJF and Wardlow’s history in with Samoa Joe’s involvement and history with CM Punk and Roderick Strong (and MJF if you throw that picture of MJF in his security detail up on someone’s Twitter).

There’s potential for this all to connect and lead to some pretty amazing storytelling. You could get Dax Harwood vs. Roderick Strong on an edition of Collision and it be more than just a match between those two parties. It could be about Dax’s friendship with CM Punk, Strong’s ties to Adam Cole (and MJF…and their quest to become tag champs) and where allegiances lie.

[drave]

gay

[GD]

I’m not sure just how involved CM Punk is involved in creative, but one thing I like about Collision is the potential for little details to matter. I was thinking just before that CM Punk coming to Roderick Strong’s aid could actually become a MAJOR plot detail for their company:

Roderick Strong is friends with Adam Cole, who is currently doing that weird thing with MJF — the current AEW World Champion. They could be in line for an AEW World Tag Team Title shot. MJF has issues with Punk and history with FTR — the current Tag Team Champs. Punk’s friendship with Strong could place tensions on the “friendship” between MJF and Cole, which could place tensions on the friendship between Punk and FTR. Throw in Cole’s history with The Bullet Club, the potential to mix MJF and Wardlow’s history in with Samoa Joe’s involvement and history with CM Punk and Roderick Strong (and MJF if you throw that picture of MJF in his security detail up on someone’s Twitter).

There’s potential for this all to connect and lead to some pretty amazing storytelling. You could get Dax Harwood vs. Roderick Strong on an edition of Collision and it be more than just a match between those two parties. It could be about Dax’s friendship with CM Punk, Strong’s ties to Adam Cole (and MJF…and their quest to become tag champs) and where allegiances lie.

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[Sting Fan]

I keep missing Collision, cards look ok. I have great intentions but I just never quite make it. Its actually a surprisingly good time slot for me being a Sunday but yeah... dunno.

I still keep watching Dynamite in a weirder time slot for me personally. Maybe I'm just a one show a week wrestling fan nowadays. I read HOB is going to be on Collision so that might draw me in as I love all three but overall I want Hangman, Omega, Bucks, Darby, Sting.

[Fignuts]

Punk vs Joe
Stark vs Hobbs
FTR vs Jay and Juice
Willow vs Athena

Fantastic card on paper.

[erickman]

showtime

[erickman]

punk doing reservoir dogs

[xrodmuc316]

LOL since when is that idiot claiming Owen Hart was the reason he became a wrestler. I guess 20 years in you can make up whatever story you want to virtue signal.

Anyways, on to the actual reason I wanted to check out the show tonight, Starks vs Hobbs.

[erickman]

yeah the 2 young guns who will get the push tonight.

[erickman]

good let's see what j hart can do in the ring

[rez]

come on, ricky

[rez]

Julia Hart in action tonight? Cool

[erickman]

that was a cool win

[xrodmuc316]

#RIPQT

[xrodmuc316]

So Miro isnt interested in winning titles, just cutting backstage promos, Tiny is such a good booker! Have a good night everybody!

[rez]

xrod, what are you going on about in that private message wanting to nibble on schiavone's pierced ear lobe?

[erickman]

facing a jobber this should be bad

[rez]

yeah, save that jobber shit for Rampage

[erickman]

ftr is over

[erickman]

this may end up a draw

[erickman]

wow contender for tag match of the year

[rez]

pretty dang good

[rez]

That was fun. Punk versus Ricky gonna be cool

[rez]

Sweet Tooth gettin the last laugh

[GD]

I saw the highlights of the main event in typical Noid fashion and I must say that I was thoroughly disappointed and didn’t understand the in-ring storytelling whatsoever. Shit was sloppy as fuck.

[rez]

spot on, chap

[Ben Rodrigues]

Great show. Collision is now must watch TV.

Two out of three falls next week. Owen Hart finals. Return of Bret Hart. Haven't looked forward to a weekly show in a while.

[Ben Rodrigues]

I saw the highlights of the main event in typical Noid fashion and I must say that I was thoroughly disappointed and didn’t understand the in-ring storytelling whatsoever. Shit was sloppy as fuck.

Oh my.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Collision looked fucking great.

[xrodmuc316]

I saw the highlights of the main event in typical Noid fashion and I must say that I was thoroughly disappointed and didn’t understand the in-ring storytelling whatsoever. Shit was sloppy as fuck.

I am legitimately surprised Phil didnt get injured with how stiff Joe works. Tiny Khan might be Snowman, but Phil is Glassman.

[Ben Rodrigues]

Collision looked fucking great.

Agreed. Punk's promo at the start made me care about the tournament. The short video package made me care mroe about the Punk/ajoe history. Hobbs vs Starks felt high stakes. FtR vs Juice and White was good - on a personal note never understood what a "title eliminator" was (thought it was just AEWs way of saying number on contender), glad the commentators educated me. Punk vs Joe was good as well. Nice close to the show as well.

Looking forward to next week!

[Tom Guycott]

I’m not sure just how involved CM Punk is involved in creative, but one thing I like about Collision is the potential for little details to matter. I was thinking just before that CM Punk coming to Roderick Strong’s aid could actually become a MAJOR plot detail for their company:

Roderick Strong is friends with Adam Cole, who is currently doing that weird thing with MJF — the current AEW World Champion. They could be in line for an AEW World Tag Team Title shot. MJF has issues with Punk and history with FTR — the current Tag Team Champs. Punk’s friendship with Strong could place tensions on the “friendship” between MJF and Cole, which could place tensions on the friendship between Punk and FTR. Throw in Cole’s history with The Bullet Club, the potential to mix MJF and Wardlow’s history in with Samoa Joe’s involvement and history with CM Punk and Roderick Strong (and MJF if you throw that picture of MJF in his security detail up on someone’s Twitter).

There’s potential for this all to connect and lead to some pretty amazing storytelling. You could get Dax Harwood vs. Roderick Strong on an edition of Collision and it be more than just a match between those two parties. It could be about Dax’s friendship with CM Punk, Strong’s ties to Adam Cole (and MJF…and their quest to become tag champs) and where allegiances lie.

All this is nice and makes sense in a "Smackdown Six" kinda way... BUUUUUT the problem is just that: it makes sense.

It doesn't include anything about how this affects the feelings of "the four horsemen" (all lower case letters intentionally). It doesn't feature the huge signees Action Andretti or Kommander. There is nothing worked in about Orange Cassidy.

I've been beaten down from expecting too much from wrestling over the years. And here, I'm not shitting on the Bucks and Co. because it's the popular thing to do. I'm shitting on the Bucks because they have done the same shit for at least over a decade now. It's fine the first few times, but they are beyond "X-Pac heat" levels of the same match ad infinitum. Even worse, because they're in charge, and like when other wrestlers have matches like them. Trapese artists can be fun every once in awhile, but building the entire circus around them gets stale quick.

None of the things Nerf mentioned are set up to "pop the boys", and I personally fear that's the reason why nothing like that is set to happen. I hope I'm wrong, but again, I've had most of the hope beaten out of me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I get having the hope beaten out of you. I’m going to try and remain open-minded about Collision though.

[GD]

I've watch 5-whole highlights of the show on YouTube and can't think that anyone with one working brain cell would willingly consume this nonsense. This show really needs Jim Cornette and Mark Magnus. Samoa Joe needs to switch to tights like a real professional wrestler instead of his bermuda shorts.

[rez]

Agreed. Punk's promo at the start made me care about the tournament. The short video package made me care mroe about the Punk/ajoe history. Hobbs vs Starks felt high stakes. FtR vs Juice and White was good - on a personal note never understood what a "title eliminator" was (thought it was just AEWs way of saying number on contender), glad the commentators educated me. Punk vs Joe was good as well. Nice close to the show as well.

Looking forward to next week!

So you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting and i believe that time can come again!

[xrodmuc316]

I watched the Punk highlights, they were great!

The Highlights: nTLZMl9kxvg

[Ben Rodrigues]

So you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting and i believe that time can come again!

Exactly!

[DaveWadding]

Collision in a couple hours, let's all go buy some human teeth and human teeth accessories.

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[rez]

Let's do this

[rez]

after I go get some beer and taco bell

[erickman]

showtime

[rez]

love this feud

[slik]

tag match is good

[erickman]

tag match is good

wish they would have saved this for the ppv

[rez]

Collision is the PPV of wrestling television shows.

[slik]

is juice under contract

[slik]

this is one of the best tag matches in aew history

[rez]

dudes gotta be exhausted

[erickman]

damn ad brake time