Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer)

[toxic rooster]

On the advice of Paranoid Rattlesnake, I've started a new thread for this.

Can we start a new topic now for the premiership 2004/2005 season???

Just that this topic is taking the piss now

I'd do it but I don't want people saying we've already got a topic
Also, instead of calling it "Premiership Talk", I called it "Football Talk", so as to include MMM, Wengerland etc.

Continue discussing.

[The Mask]

you're going to have all the yanks getting confused now, poor darlings.

[toxic rooster]

So what should I do, change it to "soccer talk"?

<marquee direction=right>:rofl:</marquee>

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

We've already got one of these threads, What the hell did you think you where doing.

:shifty:

[The Mask]

I'm looking forward to this one, cause if history has it's way, we should win this time round.

[toxic rooster]

Are you making light of our inability to defend our title?

Or the fact that we'll probably win the Com Shield, which a team has never won the Premiership after winning in like 190742184259072905723 years?

Or the fact that we're shedding all of our B grade strikers, and if Henry gets injured we're screwed?

[The Mask]

probably, yes.

[Cactus Sid]

Everyone knows its Liverpool's year.



:'(

[Disturbed316]

BRIGHTON TO WIN 'THE CHAMPIONSHIP'

:roll:*

Seriously, what a shit name :nono:

*= :roll: at the name championship, not the fact Brighton will win it :D

[Dazz]

Chelsea for the title, GO BLUES!!!

[Tony Montana]

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/index.php?page_id=3763

GOD DAMMIT.....

[Dazz]

Hey Tony, no one cares about Everton.

[Dazz]

Oh I just realised I can talk about South American Football here, anyone watch the Copa Liberdatores? Boca played River Plater in the semi finals, well, I was knackered so I recorded it and have only watched the first half. The ref sent off THREE players in the first half, one of them was kinda a sending off, one was a booking (Gallardo), and one guy (the Boca guy) did nothing at all and got sent off. Gallardo tripped up the Boca player (Cincardi or something) and the Cincardi got up and squared up to him, Gallardo didn't exactly go for a headbutt but I suppose it could have been veiwed as that, so he should have got a booking for it, and the ref ran over at this point and sent them both off. Then there was a BIG ruck where Boca and River plate officials came on the pitch, Boca's keeper got punched round the back of the head and scratched a few times in the face, this River Plate coach was on the floor for like five minutes after being punched, it was pretty funny to watch.

[Rob]

The season hasn't even got going yet. Wait until we kill off the Euro 2004 and last seasons Premiership thread first.

[Wengerland]

Yeah,just use this for predicting and stuff until Euro 2004 has finished.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yessssssssssssssss Paul Butler is off to Leeds :yes: :love:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">C'MON POMPEY

you'll pay for that :@</font>

[Wengerland]

Yessssssssssssssss Paul Butler is off to Leeds :yes: :love:

So is Joachim :'(

Forest are pricing Williams out of that move here,the bastards.:mad: They're said to want a minimum of about £3 million,and would expect that if it went to a tribunal. :rant:

Radzinski has had a transfer request rejected too.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">would they get that if you took it to a tribunal though? Because that sounds like a huge amount.

When we signed Matty Taylor Luton kicked up a big fuss and we took it to a tribunal and got him for £400,000 rising depending on appearances. And we just signed Jamie Ashdown from Reading and it looks like they're only going to get around £250,000 compensation for him.</font>

[Oxstar]

Who reckons Crystal Palace will avoid relegation? I think we're going down but I can keep my fingers crossed and hope we survive.

[toxic rooster]

I think Norwich will stay up, and maybe West Brom.

I think Palace have no chance, sorry oxstar :(

Also, CHANGE YOUR AVATAR RBF :'(

[toxic rooster]

The season hasn't even got going yet. Wait until we kill off the Euro 2004 and last seasons Premiership thread first.
This was Paranoid Rattlesnake's idea, not mine.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I personally think West Brom are the most likely to stay up from what ive seen so far. You cant reall say until you see who everyone buys but right now West Brom seem to be tightening up the defence plus they also have experience on their side after their previous season in the premiership. They also seem to realise this time that they need to buy to have a chance.

Most Norwich fans from what ive seen seem to think they just need a couple of players and it'll be enough to keep them up. They all seem happy with the Bentley signing and along with Huckerby and Green think they have a good chance. While Bentley could be a decent signing, he's in experienced and Pennant, who is better wasn't enough to keep Leeds up even with their better players.

Even if Huckerby did score a few in div 1, i still dont think he's good enough for the premiership. And while Green may be a good young keeper, look at how Matt Murray did when he played. So they'll need a lot more than that.</font>

[LK]

Palace don't have achance of staying up. Norwich will need to sign some more Premiership quality players because people like Huckerby are just good 1st division players. I also think that West Brom will go down unless they also sign more quality players. But then again they will have experience and they will realise that they have to spend to stay up so maybe they will be alright. As far as the winners of the Premiership is concerned Manchester United will win the title back. BTW I have serious doubts about Leeds United coming back to the Premiership in just one season.

[toxic rooster]

Leeds are screwed, nobody's denying that.

I said it once, I'll say it again - it's worrying me that we've let Wiltord, Kanu and Bentley leave (well Bentley is coming back, but you get the idea).

I'm not sure if Jeffers or Pennant are coming back, but it worries me that in the coming season, we'll be relying on Henry too much for goals. And if he gets injured, we may well be screwed :rant:

[Skeletor2]

Newcastle are on the verge of completing a season long loan of Mido from Marseille with the option of buying him later, according to Mido himself on Egyptianplayers.com

[Dazz]

Leeds are screwed, nobody's denying that.

I said it once, I'll say it again - it's worrying me that we've let Wiltord, Kanu and Bentley leave (well Bentley is coming back, but you get the idea).

I'm not sure if Jeffers or Pennant are coming back, but it worries me that in the coming season, we'll be relying on Henry too much for goals. And if he gets injured, we may well be screwed :rant:

It's not worrying, Wiltord and Kanu are shit. Bentley needs to get some experience first where he will play all the time. Jeffers is shit alot of the time, you don't need him, and he dives. You have Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes and Alliediere to get goals, quit trippin, Wenger did the right thing. If you don't win the league it's nothing to do with those transfers you have just mentioned.

[Wengerland]

Plus there's Van Persie aswell,though its likely that Wenger will keep him as a left winger.

Everton want £45 million if they're to sell Rooney.

[Ricky]

BRIGHTON TO WIN 'THE CHAMPIONSHIP'

:roll:*

Seriously, what a shit name :nono:

*= :roll: at the name championship, not the fact Brighton will win it :D
:foc:

Did you go to the play-off final?

[toxic rooster]

Jeffers is shit alot of the time, you don't need him, and he dives.
Works for van Nistelrooy :o. And Ashley Cole, for that matter.

You have Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes and Alliediere to get goals
Bergkamp is aging, Reyes is more of an attacking midfielder and Aliadiere is probably a bit underdone - especially when he gets put in the situation of being out for several months with an injury and gets thrown straight back in the deep end, like the FA cup semi-final.

When we threw it away last time, all the doomsayers were crapping on about our over-reliance on Henry. This past season he was deadset on fire, but I can't see his good form lasting another whole season for Arsenal. Backed up with Reyes, Bergkamp and Aliadiere, it worries me.

[toxic rooster]

Trying not to take Arsenal's great form for granted, but it's hard :mad:

[toxic rooster]

OK, I know it's a bit off what I was saying, but I'd like some of you guys' views on this.

What is your take on Wenger's selective blindness, the whole "I didn't see the incident" side of things.

I'm not sure that it's such a bad thing as people give him shit for - it prevents him from being in a position to say something stupid.

Thoughts?

[Rob]

He needs thicker glasses.

[Dazz]

Bergkamp is aging, Reyes is more of an attacking midfielder and Aliadiere is probably a bit underdone - especially when he gets put in the situation of being out for several months with an injury and gets thrown straight back in the deep end, like the FA cup semi-final.

When we threw it away last time, all the doomsayers were crapping on about our over-reliance on Henry. This past season he was deadset on fire, but I can't see his good form lasting another whole season for Arsenal. Backed up with Reyes, Bergkamp and Aliadiere, it worries me.

What the hell are you on about, Reyes is a great attacker, he won you the game Vs Chelsea in the F.A cup and I was more afraid of him then Henry after that, the guy is great. Bergkamp still can produce the magic though, and Alliadiere needs experience which he will get this year.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

OK, I know it's a bit off what I was saying, but I'd like some of you guys' views on this.

What is your take on Wenger's selective blindness, the whole "I didn't see the incident" side of things.

I'm not sure that it's such a bad thing as people give him shit for - it prevents him from being in a position to say something stupid.

Thoughts?

It's more or less the same thing most managers do. He just uses the same line over and over and over again though and so people have ridiculed him for it (can't say as I blame them).

At least he does speak to the press most of the time instead of throwing a fit when something doesn't go his way *cough*FERGUSON*cough*

As for Reyes, you watch him this coming season. If he plays regularly, he will most likely be awesome now he's had some time to adjust.

[Danny Electric]

Gerrard won't go to Chelsea this season.
If we do badly this season I see both him and Owen leaving for the season after.

[Rob]

If Lampard is talking about it then I'd guess he and Gerrard have spoken so there has to be some truth to it.

[Danny Electric]

If Lampard is talking about it then I'd guess he and Gerrard have spoken so there has to be some truth to it.

I just think that depending on how well we do next season then he will leave.We've got Champions league football, if we go through the qualifying rounds, which might keep him happy for one season.
But if we mess up next season I see him going.

[Rob]

Nah I think a £35 million bid is gonna take him to Chelsea. Owen will probably leave on a Bosman next year.

[Danny Electric]

Nah I think a £35 million bid is gonna take him to Chelsea. Owen will probably leave on a Bosman next year.

As a Liverpool fan I'd be upset if Gerrard goes and I hope he doesn't. But if he does then I'd like to applaud him for what he has given to the club.
Not going to be like those idiotic Leeds fans.

[Rob]

What if he went to Man United though?

[Cactus Sid]

He wont.

United wouldn't spend £35 million on him, and if Liverpool had an equal bid from Chelsea, they wouldn't accept it anyway.

[OssMan]

I'm rooting for Crystal Palace.

[Rob]

He wont.

United wouldn't spend £35 million on him, and if Liverpool had an equal bid from Chelsea, they wouldn't accept it anyway.

That's not the point. My alter ego said he wouldn't treat him like the Leeds fans treated Smith so to get a fair comparison, I asked would he feel the same if Liverpool's best player went to United.

[Oxstar]

I'm rooting for Crystal Palace.
Me too but Palace really need to buy about 4 or 5 decent players to have a real chance of staying up otherwise it's relegation back to div 1

[Rob]

They need 11 decent players. They don't have one player of Premiership quality. Wolves and Leicester had far stronger squads and went down this season. I can't see the three who came up standing a chance.

[91]

They need 11 decent players. They don't have one player of Premiership quality. Wolves and Leicester had far stronger squads and went down this season. I can't see the three who came up standing a chance.

Well whilst the three of them would be favourites to go down, everyone was saying the same about Bradford - nobody in the squad who belongs in the Premiership etc etc, and they stayed up (for one season at least).

[Wengerland]

Thatcher has joined Man City, RBF won't be pleased with him:$

City have also signed De Villeger, the Belgian keeper.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">oh well, if he didn't want to play for us he can piss off, not interested in uncommited players. Still annoyed he messed us around like that though.

de Zeeuw, Stefanovic, Primus and Taylor > Thatcher</font>

[Danny Electric]

That's not the point. My alter ego said he wouldn't treat him like the Leeds fans treated Smith so to get a fair comparison, I asked would he feel the same if Liverpool's best player went to United.

I'd feel the same, he played his heart out for us this season and if he joined I'd be pissed off but i applaud him for the service he has given us.

[Wengerland]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">oh well, if he didn't want to play for us he can piss off, not interested in uncommited players. Still annoyed he messed us around like that though.

de Zeeuw, Stefanovic, Primus and Taylor > Thatcher</font>

To be fair, he is guaranteed first team football at Man City, what with Tarnat leaving, and he would have had to compete with Taylor at Pompey.

[Wengerland]

Portsmouth and Everton have had offers of £450,000 for Marcus Bent accepted. He'd be a great buy for either of them.

[Oxstar]

Portsmouth and Everton have had offers of £450,000 for Marcus Bent accepted. He'd be a great buy for either of them.
I would love Marcus Bent to come back to Palace we only sold him cause we was broke

[Oxstar]

Everton boss David Moyes has made his first foray into the transfer market by signing striker Marcus Bent from Ipswich on a three-year deal.

Bent, who spent last season on loan at Leicester, scored 10 goals for the Foxes last season, including a last-minute equaliser against Everton at the Walkers Stadium in March.

Manager David Moyes beat off competition from Portsmouth and West Brom for his signature.

Everton agreed a fee in the region of £450,000 with Ipswich on Tuesday allowing Bent to complete a medical on Merseyside on Wednesday before putting pen to paper. He will officially join the club on July 1.

Moyes claimed Bent's versatility in attack was a major reason they were interested in bringing the former Blackburn Rovers man to Goodison Park.

He told the club website: "We're delighted to have Marcus.

"He'll give an added dimension to the squad because he can play up front and he can play wide right. He's a good age and he's a price at this present time we could afford.

"He's got athleticism, he's quick, he's good in the air and we'll be looking to fit him in the squad. I'm intending bringing in more players and hopefully Marcus is only the first of many.''

[Wengerland]

Yeah, him and Rooney would be a goods front line, if they get rid of Radzinski.

[Oxstar]

Ok so now I'm seriously pissed off, Julian Gray has left Palace and joined Birmingham on a 3 year contract, he must be fucking stupid he isn't gonna get a game at Birmingham where as at Palace he would have been 1st choice, I can't wait to see him rot in their reserves. Hopefully Palace will try and buy Matt Etherington off West Ham to replace Gray.

[Oxstar]

Yeah, him and Rooney would be a goods front line, if they get rid of Radzinski.
I reckon Radzinski will go to Fulham and Rooney to Chelsea, Bent can play upfront with Ferguson.

Early prediction : Everton to be relegated if they sell Rooney

[Rob]

They have James McFadden and they signed that lump of sh</>ite?

[Oxstar]

They have James McFadden and they signed that lump of sh</>ite?
Oh shit yeah I forgot they had James McFadden he seems to be quite good

[Doink]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

in case you didnt work it out im slightly happy that rickets is leaving


i heard a roumour that leeds are only buying him as he's the only thing they could find thats bigger than their debts

ouch

sorry leeds fans, not jus about the debt joke but for the fact you now have ricketts anyway back as i was now -

:'( we signed ricketts, :) he scored a goal (once) :nono: :mad: :foc: how i felt about him while with us :) hears leeds roumours :) :D hears that they are in talks :lol: :rofl: :p :rofl: he has signed subject to medical

[Wengerland]

Yeah,i'm not really worried about Leeds for next year, though Sheffield United have made same buys who look good for The Championship - Hayles, Harley, Liddell (Wigans record scorer), Quinn and Bromby (from Sheff Wed).

[Oxstar]

Michael Ricketts to Leeds? he might be really good in Div 1, anyway I fucking hate Leeds

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He was great in the first division for Bolton.

[Dazz]

Remember the time he played for England :rofl:

[Oxstar]

Remember the time he played for England :rofl:
I know he played for England, I remember he only played once and didnt really do anything. Why don't you remind us all Dazz, I really wanna hear some more Ricketts piss taking:D

[Frank Grimes Jnr]

Wayne Rooney is so fucken overrated!!!!!
50 million pounds my arse. I wouldn't pay him 50 pounds unless he lost 50 pounds.
I know he carved up Croatia but thats for his country, not for his club.
He didn't nothing for Everton this year and to put that much of a price tag on his head is ridiculous.
During an Australian interview Martin Tyler said that he could say Wayne Rooneys name in the same breath as Pele, Maradona, Cruyff and Beckenbauer.
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!!!!

[Frank Grimes Jnr]

Excuse the spelling, I'm just really pissed off to check if I was grammatically correct.

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

FIXTURES OUT TODAY BOYS

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Woo Hoo Man Utd vs Chelsea opening Day


Sat Aug 14 2004
Aston Villa v Southampton 15:00
Tottenham v Liverpool 15:00
Blackburn v West Brom 15:00
Bolton v Charlton 15:00
Chelsea v Man Utd 15:00
Everton v Arsenal 15:00
Man City v Fulham 15:00
Middlesbrough v Newcastle 15:00
Norwich v Crystal Palace 15:00
Portsmouth v Birmingham 15:00

Sat Aug 21 2004
Arsenal v Middlesbrough 15:00
West Brom v Aston Villa 15:00
Birmingham v Chelsea 15:00
Charlton v Portsmouth 15:00
Crystal Palace v Everton 15:00
Fulham v Bolton 15:00
Liverpool v Man City 15:00
Man Utd v Norwich 15:00
Newcastle v Tottenham 15:00
Southampton v Blackburn 15:00

Tue Aug 24 2004
Arsenal v Blackburn 19:45
Birmingham v Man City 19:45
Charlton v Aston Villa 19:45
Crystal Palace v Chelsea 19:45
West Brom v Tottenham 19:45

Wed Aug 25 2004
Fulham v Middlesbrough 19:45
Liverpool v Portsmouth 19:45
Man Utd v Everton 19:45
Newcastle v Norwich 19:45
Southampton v Bolton 19:45

Sat Aug 28 2004
Aston Villa v Newcastle 15:00
Tottenham v Birmingham 15:00
Blackburn v Man Utd 15:00
Bolton v Liverpool 15:00
Chelsea v Southampton 15:00
Everton v West Brom 15:00
Man City v Charlton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Crystal Palace 15:00
Norwich v Arsenal 15:00
Portsmouth v Fulham 15:00

Sat Sep 11 2004
Aston Villa v Chelsea 15:00
Tottenham v Norwich 15:00
Bolton v Man Utd 15:00
Charlton v Southampton 15:00
Fulham v Arsenal 15:00
Liverpool v West Brom 15:00
Man City v Everton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Birmingham 15:00
Newcastle v Blackburn 15:00
Portsmouth v Crystal Palace 15:00

Sat Sep 18 2004
Arsenal v Bolton 15:00
West Brom v Fulham 15:00
Birmingham v Charlton 15:00
Blackburn v Portsmouth 15:00
Chelsea v Tottenham 15:00
Crystal Palace v Man City 15:00
Everton v Middlesbrough 15:00
Man Utd v Liverpool 15:00
Norwich v Aston Villa 15:00
Southampton v Newcastle 15:00

Sat Sep 25 2004
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace 15:00
Tottenham v Man Utd 15:00
Bolton v Birmingham 15:00
Charlton v Blackburn 15:00
Fulham v Southampton 15:00
Liverpool v Norwich 15:00
Man City v Arsenal 15:00
Middlesbrough v Chelsea 15:00
Newcastle v West Brom 15:00
Portsmouth v Everton 15:00

Sat Oct 02 2004
Arsenal v Charlton 15:00
West Brom v Bolton 15:00
Birmingham v Newcastle 15:00
Blackburn v Aston Villa 15:00
Chelsea v Liverpool 15:00
Crystal Palace v Fulham 15:00
Everton v Tottenham 15:00
Man Utd v Middlesbrough 15:00
Norwich v Portsmouth 15:00
Southampton v Man City 15:00

Sat Oct 16 2004
Arsenal v Aston Villa 15:00
West Brom v Norwich 15:00
Birmingham v Man Utd 15:00
Blackburn v Middlesbrough 15:00
Bolton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Charlton v Newcastle 15:00
Everton v Southampton 15:00
Fulham v Liverpool 15:00
Man City v Chelsea 15:00
Portsmouth v Tottenham 15:00

Sat Oct 23 2004
Aston Villa v Fulham 15:00
Tottenham v Bolton 15:00
Chelsea v Blackburn 15:00
Crystal Palace v West Brom 15:00
Liverpool v Charlton 15:00
Man Utd v Arsenal 15:00
Middlesbrough v Portsmouth 15:00
Newcastle v Man City 15:00
Norwich v Everton 15:00
Southampton v Birmingham 15:00

Sat Oct 30 2004
Arsenal v Southampton 15:00
West Brom v Chelsea 15:00
Birmingham v Crystal Palace 15:00
Blackburn v Liverpool 15:00
Bolton v Newcastle 15:00
Charlton v Middlesbrough 15:00
Everton v Aston Villa 15:00
Fulham v Tottenham 15:00
Man City v Norwich 15:00
Portsmouth v Man Utd 15:00

Sat Nov 06 2004
Aston Villa v Portsmouth 15:00
Tottenham v Charlton 15:00
Chelsea v Everton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Arsenal 15:00
Liverpool v Birmingham 15:00
Man Utd v Man City 15:00
Middlesbrough v Bolton 15:00
Newcastle v Fulham 15:00
Norwich v Blackburn 15:00
Southampton v West Brom 15:00

Sat Nov 13 2004
Birmingham v Everton 15:00
West Brom v Middlesbrough 15:00
Bolton v Aston Villa 15:00
Charlton v Norwich 15:00
Fulham v Chelsea 15:00
Liverpool v Crystal Palace 15:00
Man City v Blackburn 15:00
Newcastle v Man Utd 15:00
Southampton v Portsmouth 15:00
Tottenham v Arsenal 15:00

Sat Nov 20 2004
Arsenal v West Brom 15:00
Portsmouth v Man City 15:00
Aston Villa v Tottenham 15:00
Blackburn v Birmingham 15:00
Chelsea v Bolton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Newcastle 15:00
Everton v Fulham 15:00
Man Utd v Charlton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Liverpool 15:00
Norwich v Southampton 15:00

Sat Nov 27 2004
Birmingham v Norwich 15:00
West Brom v Man Utd 15:00
Bolton v Portsmouth 15:00
Charlton v Chelsea 15:00
Fulham v Blackburn 15:00
Liverpool v Arsenal 15:00
Man City v Aston Villa 15:00
Newcastle v Everton 15:00
Southampton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Tottenham v Middlesbrough 15:00

Sat Dec 04 2004
Arsenal v Birmingham 15:00
Portsmouth v West Brom 15:00
Aston Villa v Liverpool 15:00
Blackburn v Tottenham 15:00
Chelsea v Newcastle 15:00
Crystal Palace v Charlton 15:00
Everton v Bolton 15:00
Man Utd v Southampton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Man City 15:00
Norwich v Fulham 15:00

Sat Dec 11 2004
Arsenal v Chelsea 15:00
West Brom v Charlton 15:00
Aston Villa v Birmingham 15:00
Crystal Palace v Blackburn 15:00
Everton v Liverpool 15:00
Fulham v Man Utd 15:00
Man City v Tottenham 15:00
Newcastle v Portsmouth 15:00
Norwich v Bolton 15:00
Southampton v Middlesbrough 15:00

Sat Dec 18 2004
Birmingham v West Brom 15:00
Tottenham v Southampton 15:00
Blackburn v Everton 15:00
Bolton v Man City 15:00
Charlton v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v Norwich 15:00
Liverpool v Newcastle 15:00
Man Utd v Crystal Palace 15:00
Middlesbrough v Aston Villa 15:00
Portsmouth v Arsenal 15:00

Sun Dec 26 2004
Arsenal v Fulham 15:00
West Brom v Liverpool 15:00
Birmingham v Middlesbrough 15:00
Blackburn v Newcastle 15:00
Chelsea v Aston Villa 15:00
Crystal Palace v Portsmouth 15:00
Everton v Man City 15:00
Man Utd v Bolton 15:00
Norwich v Tottenham 15:00
Southampton v Charlton 15:00

Tue Dec 28 2004
Aston Villa v Man Utd 15:00
Tottenham v Crystal Palace 15:00
Bolton v Blackburn 15:00
Charlton v Everton 15:00
Fulham v Birmingham 15:00
Liverpool v Southampton 15:00
Man City v West Brom 15:00
Middlesbrough v Norwich 15:00
Newcastle v Arsenal 15:00
Portsmouth v Chelsea 15:00

Sat Jan 01 2005
Aston Villa v Blackburn 15:00
Tottenham v Everton 15:00
Bolton v West Brom 15:00
Charlton v Arsenal 15:00
Fulham v Crystal Palace 15:00
Liverpool v Chelsea 15:00
Man City v Southampton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Man Utd 15:00
Newcastle v Birmingham 15:00
Portsmouth v Norwich 15:00

Mon Jan 03 2005
Arsenal v Man City 15:00
West Brom v Newcastle 15:00
Birmingham v Bolton 15:00
Blackburn v Charlton 15:00
Chelsea v Middlesbrough 15:00
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa 15:00
Everton v Portsmouth 15:00
Man Utd v Tottenham 15:00
Norwich v Liverpool 15:00
Southampton v Fulham 15:00

Sat Jan 15 2005
Aston Villa v Norwich 15:00
Tottenham v Chelsea 15:00
Bolton v Arsenal 15:00
Charlton v Birmingham 15:00
Fulham v West Brom 15:00
Liverpool v Man Utd 15:00
Man City v Crystal Palace 15:00
Middlesbrough v Everton 15:00
Newcastle v Southampton 15:00
Portsmouth v Blackburn 15:00

Sat Jan 22 2005
Arsenal v Newcastle 15:00
West Brom v Man City 15:00
Birmingham v Fulham 15:00
Blackburn v Bolton 15:00
Chelsea v Portsmouth 15:00
Crystal Palace v Tottenham 15:00
Everton v Charlton 15:00
Man Utd v Aston Villa 15:00
Norwich v Middlesbrough 15:00
Southampton v Liverpool 15:00

Tue Feb 01 2005
Arsenal v Man Utd 19:45
Birmingham v Southampton 19:45
Bolton v Tottenham 19:45
Charlton v Liverpool 19:45
Portsmouth v Middlesbrough 19:45
West Brom v Crystal Palace 19:45

Wed Feb 02 2005
Blackburn v Chelsea 19:45
Everton v Norwich 19:45
Fulham v Aston Villa 19:45
Man City v Newcastle 19:45

Sat Feb 05 2005
Aston Villa v Arsenal 15:00
Tottenham v Portsmouth 15:00
Chelsea v Man City 15:00
Crystal Palace v Bolton 15:00
Liverpool v Fulham 15:00
Man Utd v Birmingham 15:00
Middlesbrough v Blackburn 15:00
Newcastle v Charlton 15:00
Norwich v West Brom 15:00
Southampton v Everton 15:00

Sat Feb 12 2005
Arsenal v Crystal Palace 15:00
West Brom v Southampton 15:00
Birmingham v Liverpool 15:00
Blackburn v Norwich 15:00
Bolton v Middlesbrough 15:00
Charlton v Tottenham 15:00
Everton v Chelsea 15:00
Fulham v Newcastle 15:00
Man City v Man Utd 15:00
Portsmouth v Aston Villa 15:00

Sat Feb 26 2005
Aston Villa v Everton 15:00
Tottenham v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v West Brom 15:00
Crystal Palace v Birmingham 15:00
Liverpool v Blackburn 15:00
Man Utd v Portsmouth 15:00
Middlesbrough v Charlton 15:00
Newcastle v Bolton 15:00
Norwich v Man City 15:00
Southampton v Arsenal 15:00

Sat Mar 05 2005
Arsenal v Portsmouth 15:00
West Brom v Birmingham 15:00
Aston Villa v Middlesbrough 15:00
Crystal Palace v Man Utd 15:00
Everton v Blackburn 15:00
Fulham v Charlton 15:00
Man City v Bolton 15:00
Newcastle v Liverpool 15:00
Norwich v Chelsea 15:00
Southampton v Tottenham 15:00

Sat Mar 19 2005
Birmingham v Aston Villa 15:00
Tottenham v Man City 15:00
Blackburn v Arsenal 15:00
Bolton v Norwich 15:00
Charlton v West Brom 15:00
Chelsea v Crystal Palace 15:00
Liverpool v Everton 15:00
Man Utd v Fulham 15:00
Middlesbrough v Southampton 15:00
Portsmouth v Newcastle 15:00

Sat Apr 02 2005
Arsenal v Norwich 15:00
West Brom v Everton 15:00
Birmingham v Tottenham 15:00
Charlton v Man City 15:00
Crystal Palace v Middlesbrough 15:00
Fulham v Portsmouth 15:00
Liverpool v Bolton 15:00
Man Utd v Blackburn 15:00
Newcastle v Aston Villa 15:00
Southampton v Chelsea 15:00

Sat Apr 09 2005
Aston Villa v West Brom 15:00
Tottenham v Newcastle 15:00
Blackburn v Southampton 15:00
Bolton v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v Birmingham 15:00
Everton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Man City v Liverpool 15:00
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 15:00
Norwich v Man Utd 15:00
Portsmouth v Charlton 15:00

Sat Apr 16 2005
Arsenal v Everton 15:00
West Brom v Blackburn 15:00
Birmingham v Portsmouth 15:00
Charlton v Bolton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Norwich 15:00
Fulham v Man City 15:00
Liverpool v Tottenham 15:00
Man Utd v Chelsea 15:00
Newcastle v Middlesbrough 15:00
Southampton v Aston Villa 15:00

Tue Apr 19 2005
Bolton v Southampton 19:45
Middlesbrough v Fulham 19:45
Norwich v Newcastle 19:45
Portsmouth v Liverpool 19:45

Wed Apr 20 2005
Aston Villa v Charlton 19:45
Blackburn v Crystal Palace 19:45
Chelsea v Arsenal 19:45
Everton v Man Utd 19:45
Man City v Birmingham 19:45
Tottenham v West Brom 19:45

Sat Apr 23 2005
Arsenal v Tottenham 15:00
Portsmouth v Southampton 15:00
Aston Villa v Bolton 15:00
Blackburn v Man City 15:00
Chelsea v Fulham 15:00
Crystal Palace v Liverpool 15:00
Everton v Birmingham 15:00
Man Utd v Newcastle 15:00
Middlesbrough v West Brom 15:00
Norwich v Charlton 15:00

Sat Apr 30 2005
Birmingham v Blackburn 15:00
West Brom v Arsenal 15:00
Bolton v Chelsea 15:00
Charlton v Man Utd 15:00
Fulham v Everton 15:00
Liverpool v Middlesbrough 15:00
Man City v Portsmouth 15:00
Newcastle v Crystal Palace 15:00
Southampton v Norwich 15:00
Tottenham v Aston Villa 15:00

Sat May 07 2005
Arsenal v Liverpool 15:00
Portsmouth v Bolton 15:00
Aston Villa v Man City 15:00
Blackburn v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v Charlton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Southampton 15:00
Everton v Newcastle 15:00
Man Utd v West Brom 15:00
Middlesbrough v Tottenham 15:00
Norwich v Birmingham 15:00

Sat May 14 2005
Birmingham v Arsenal 15:00
West Brom v Portsmouth 15:00
Bolton v Everton 15:00
Charlton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Fulham v Norwich 15:00
Liverpool v Aston Villa 15:00
Man City v Middlesbrough 15:00
Newcastle v Chelsea 15:00
Southampton v Man Utd 15:00
Tottenham v Blackburn 15:00

[toxic rooster]

hmmm...Arsenal v ManYoo in early February :-\

[Danny Electric]

Ricketts learnt everything he knew at The Saddlers.

[Wengerland]

West Ham at home first day. :eek:

Then Derby :mad:

[LK]

Grimey Jr you took the words right out of my mouth. Rooney is good but he is never worth 50 million pounds. He had an average season last year. Comparing him to Pele or Maradonna is an insult to the both of them. Very few will ever come close to being as good as them and Wayne Rooney isn't one of them.

[Danny Electric]

Rooney did have an average season but he had an average team around him.
He's showing that with quality players around him how good he can play.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Chelsea rumoured (according to the Daily Mail anyway) to be preparing a bid of £20m PLUS Duff AND Parker for Gerrard.

Dunno...to be honest I think that's way more than Gerrard is worth. I'd say it's a good deal for Liverpool (if true)

[Danny Electric]

Chelsea rumoured (according to the Daily Mail anyway) to be preparing a bid of £20m PLUS Duff AND Parker for Gerrard.

Dunno...to be honest I think that's way more than Gerrard is worth. I'd say it's a good deal for Liverpool (if true)

Sky News and Eurosport New were talking about it.
I'm still debating in my head what I would want to happen. As much as I love Stevie G, money plus Duff and Parker sounds good.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

West Ham at home first day. :eek:

Then Derby :mad:

August
Sat 7 15:00 A Stoke City
Tue 10 19:45 H Preston
Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United
Sat 21 15:00 A Burnley
Sat 28 15:00 H Leicester City
Mon 30 15:00 A Ipswich Town

Oh my Wengerland :o

[Danny Electric]

August
Sat 7 15:00 A Stoke City
Tue 10 19:45 H Preston
Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United
Sat 21 15:00 A Burnley
Sat 28 15:00 H Leicester City
Mon 30 15:00 A Ipswich Town

Oh my Wengerland :o

Good to see some nice northern teams there, well apart from Ipswich.

[Dazz]

Chelsea rumoured (according to the Daily Mail anyway) to be preparing a bid of £20m PLUS Duff AND Parker for Gerrard.

Dunno...to be honest I think that's way more than Gerrard is worth. I'd say it's a good deal for Liverpool (if true)

There Chelsea website denies that either of them are going anywhere, to be honest I'm not fussed if they both leave. We don't need Parker and Duff is ALWAYS injured.

[Dazz]

Wayne Rooney is so fucken overrated!!!!!
50 million pounds my arse. I wouldn't pay him 50 pounds unless he lost 50 pounds.
I know he carved up Croatia but thats for his country, not for his club.
He didn't nothing for Everton this year and to put that much of a price tag on his head is ridiculous.
During an Australian interview Martin Tyler said that he could say Wayne Rooneys name in the same breath as Pele, Maradona, Cruyff and Beckenbauer.
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!!!!

LOL its funny AND true. Plus you have a cool name.

:y:

[Wengerland]

August
Sat 7 15:00 A Stoke City
Tue 10 19:45 H Preston
Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United
Sat 21 15:00 A Burnley
Sat 28 15:00 H Leicester City
Mon 30 15:00 A Ipswich Town

Oh my Wengerland :o

;)

I bet they put Leicester/West Ham and Derby/Leeds on TV for the opening day.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

;)

I bet they put Leicester/West Ham and Derby/Leeds on TV for the opening day.

Stoke/Wolves is a match for kings :mad:

[Doink]

stockdale has signed for rotherham, ricketts hasnt passed medical yet so that doesnt look good (bet the fat f**k fails), i read he'd scored 4 goals in 38 games for us good i bet the championship defenders are running scared from him!

im trying to think of the goals ricketts scored for us, i think 1 was in 03/04 season, 1 against spurs in cup and 2 penacs in cup after extra time!

sorry but he is atrousious & i feel sorry for leeds as roumour has it cadimartri & joachim will battle it out for a starting place along side ricketts. if ricketts is a first choice leeds are in serious trouble, the guy came back early for pre season last year to lose weight & claim a first team place, come christmas he still hadnt got into the side & at that time we had maccerone & job out injured along with christie. he is really bad, we paid something like 3.8m for him & are giving him away, what does that tell you ? (apart from we were ripped off when we bought him)

[Doink]

also im pissed off as im on holiday for first game against the geordies, not happy!

[Oxstar]

Why have they changed the word division to league? that's so gay. Palace vs Norwich what a shit game for Palace to start with, feels like we're still in division 1

[Dazz]

Its now the Championship I think, and the Coca Cola division One is the old Nationwide Division two.

[Oxstar]

Yeah it's the Premiership then championship then league 1 then league 2. I think that's how it is, why did they bother to change it?

[Dazz]

I don't know, it sounds stupid as hell

[Wengerland]

Yeah you've got The Championship,League One and then League Two. I think its to help glorify the lower leagues, mainly Division 1, because the football is pretty good there.

That said, we've just signed Danny Tiatto :$ :(

[Ferocious]

Middlesbrough vs Newcastle at the Riverside first game at home. I'm so glad I chose this year to but my first ever season ticket.

[Doink]

Middlesbrough vs Newcastle at the Riverside first game at home. I'm so glad I chose this year to but my first ever season ticket.

:y: :wave: :D WE HAVE ANOTHER 1 CONVERTED :y:

[Ferocious]

so rep me for it bitch ;)

[Doink]

so rep me for it bitch ;)

:lol: it is done, where abouts will you be sitting or havent they told you yet?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">didnt some guy get banned from the Riverside for falling asleep during a match? :o</font>

[91]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">didnt some guy get banned from the Riverside for falling asleep during a match? :o</font>

Yeah - it wouldn't have been a problem, except that it was the Boro' goalkeeper.

[Dazz]

lol^

[Doink]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">didnt some guy get banned from the Riverside for falling asleep during a match? :o</font>

yes, this was covered in the orignal thread but the guy fell asleep as had been on nights, had a pint before the game and fell asleep.

they banned him for being intoxicated at a sporting arena.

[Doink]

Dazz i will try but middlesbrough is what i know best

[Wengerland]

Smertin has decided to stay and fight for his place at Chelsea by the looks of things.

Leicester have signed McAteer on a free :-\

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Smertin :'( Oh well, ill forgive him because he's such a legend. I hope he makes it cos he's a top bloke and not an over rated cheating French cunt like that Makelele wanker.

Plus i spose this means Gary O'Neil will get a chance. Apparently Palace want to take him on loan though :'(

McAteer will do a job for you. From what i heard, the only reason Sunderland let him go was because they couldn't afford to keep him on. He still has a lot to offer.</font>

[Oxstar]

Anybody know any thing about Julian Speroni? He's a Argentine Goalkeeper who plays for Dundee and Palace are going to sign him for £750,000. Can anybody tell me if he is any good?

[Oxstar]

Smertin has decided to stay and fight for his place at Chelsea by the looks of things.

Leicester have signed McAteer on a free :-\
I wish Palace could get a player as good as Smertin on loan :(

[Wengerland]

Anybody know any thing about Julian Speroni? He's a Argentine Goalkeeper who plays for Dundee United and Palace are going to sign him for £750,000. Can anybody tell me if he is any good?

I think he plays for Dundee, rather than United, so Rob might be able to tell you something.

[Oxstar]

What football websites do you people look at? I always use www.teamtalk.com

[Doink]

skysports.com and icteesside for boro news (basically this one saves me going out to buy the local paper)

Bayern are set to let hargreeves go! this news comes on the same day liverpool have announced they will make a major announcement very soon. could be related!

also Leeds have finnally signed someone good. they have signed Craig Hignett (my all time fav boro player seriously when i was 14 & robson took over hr tryed to get rid of him, i was one of people who offered to put money towards his wages just to keep him- that £10 pocket money per week would have made a difference)

anyway hope he does good for them !

[Dazz]

www.football365.com is where I go.

And I hope Liverpool get Hargreaves, he is shit.

[Danny Electric]

I hope we get Hargreaves, I rate him as a player.

[Danny Electric]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Stevie G just announced that he WON'T be leaving the greatest place on Earth this season.

[Dazz]

Kinda glad and kinda sad. On the plus side Lampard wont get pissed at another player being on a huge wage (125k reportedly), but on the bad side Gerrard is a great player who plays with lots of passion and we will probably bring in some dickhead who cares about his salary and not the club.

[Doink]

is there any truth about scott parker being loaned to charlton?

i think you should keep him and lampard as your central midfielders and dump claude as think he is very over rated from what ive seen.

whats the news on jimmy fh has he gone or still there?

[Dazz]

Jimmy is still there, if anyone bid for him I bet we would sell him. Makelele is solid but he is a cheat so I would like him to be sold. I doubt Parker being loaned to Charlton would happen, the fans would hardly be pleased to see a player who turned his back on them return on loan. Although Curbishley reckosn Charlton would have finished the season much better had they had Parker.

[Doink]

ive been impressed by parker since the macdonlds adverts, think he has got better and better as the seasons have gone on.

i can and cant understand why he joined chelsea, he joined as they are one of the so called bigger clubs but why sign when they have such a squad you will struggle to get into and when you do play its out of position so not showing what you can do best.

i think this was another chairman signing rather than manager.

i wouldnt mind seeing jimmy come to boro as think he has a few years left in him yet!

[Dazz]

It was Abramovich, Ranieri didn't endorse any of our winter signings, I doubt he had much say on Cole or Veron either.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I read a while back Charlton were meant to be in the market for both Rommedahl (seems likely) *and* Kezman from PSV. If he could settle in England then Kezman would be a fantastic signing for them, since they badly need a decent goalscorer if they're ever going to get into Europe.

[Dazz]

I have heard about Rommedahl, thats on Teletext today, Kezmen has been linked with a number of clubs.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

True but I can't see Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool (signing Cisse) or Newcastle (supposedly signing Beattie and Milner) going for him, so Charlton would probably be his best bet.

Unless he wants to go warm the bench for Forssell at Birmingham :lol:

[Dazz]

I think Spurs should go after him, with Kanoute going, they need someone to compete with Defoe and Keane, but I hate Spurs so I would rather he went to Charlton.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Super Helder Postiga ;)

That's if he survives his crucifixtion when he gets back from Portugal :o

[Dazz]

Oh yeah how could I forget about him :$. I guess Charlton is about the only side he might join, I doubt Everton or the Saints will go for him, having said that if Beattie leaves Southampton will want a replacement.

[LK]

To answer your question oxstar Speroni is a decent keeper in the SPL. I am not sure if he is a premiership quality player but we will see.

[Oxstar]

To answer your question oxstar Speroni is a decent keeper in the SPL. I am not sure if he is a premiership quality player but we will see.
Ok cheers dude, I hope Speroni doesn't try to punch the ball everytime it comes near him like some foriegn goalkeepers do. I'm starting to wonder if Palace are going to buy anyone.

[Dazz]

Yeah I forget which keeper in Euro 2004 did it, but it reminded my of former Germany keerp Andrea Kopke, he always punched the ball.

[Doink]

Yeah I forget which keeper in Euro 2004 did it, but it reminded my of former Germany keerp Andrea Kopke, he always punched the ball.

the reserve keeper for checz rep did that in the one game he played, he just punched it everytime instead of catching it.

niemi came from spl as an unkown quantity and he seems to have done well so this keeper may be the same.

[Dazz]

Mayeb it was the Czech keeper. and I had heard of Neimi, I'm pretty sure others would have.

[Wengerland]

I think Spurs should go after him, with Kanoute going, they need someone to compete with Defoe and Keane, but I hate Spurs so I would rather he went to Charlton.

Where;s Kanoute going?

[Dazz]

<s>None of your business</s> I dunno but he fell out with Spurs because he wants to play for Mali and they don't want him to.

[packt up]

Yup still waiting for some good old Newcastle signings.

We are gonna blow next season unless something is done.

[Cactus Sid]

STEVEN GERRARD :love:

All we need now is £25 million for Owen, and things'll be cushty.

[The Mask]

All we need now is £25 million for Owen, and things'll be cushty.

ahahhaha

hahahahahahhaa

[Rob]

I think he plays for Dundee, rather than United, so Rob might be able to tell you something.

To answer your question oxstar Speroni is a decent keeper in the SPL. I am not sure if he is a premiership quality player but we will see.

He is the fu</>cking nuts. We would have probably been relegated two divisions without him and Nacho Novo.

[Ferocious]

Ere Dave fella, are Boro gonna be paying to keep Zenden or are we letting him go back to Chelsea?

[Dazz]

Letting him go back to Chelsea? Yeah like you have a choice, it's if we are letting him be at you next year. Apparently he has said he wants another season in the Premiership, with us having Duff and Robben, we don't need Zenden, I think he will be with you next year.

[Doink]

zendens dad has (apparently) said that once euro2004 is over he is coming to listen to our offer along with others, he has turned down a turkish team as wants to stay in england.

newcastle are ment to be after him. we want him and will try for a full contract if that fails we will try to get him on loan again

[Wengerland]

He is the fu</>cking nuts. We would have probably been relegated two divisions without him and Nacho Novo.

Dundee have accepted an offer of £500,000 for Novo from Celtic too:$

[Wengerland]

Apparantely Millwall are said to want Les Ferdinand. He'd better stay :'(

[The Mackem]

We've got a few players. Robinson, Steve Caldwell, Stephen Elliott, Liam Lawrence, Dean Whitehead. Tommy Smith rejected us for Derby.

[Rob]

Dundee have accepted an offer of £500,000 for Novo from Celtic too:$

As long as he don't go to Rangers, I don't give a toss. They STOLE two players off us last season and they did everything they could to steal Novo too.

[Cactus Sid]

ahahhaha

hahahahahahhaa

:(

Don't mock me so.

[Doink]

We've got a few players. Robinson, Steve Caldwell, Stephen Elliott, Liam Lawrence, Dean Whitehead. Tommy Smith rejected us for Derby.

they are only signing big name players so they can charge the fans more to have their name put on the back of their shirts ( by big names i mean long )

any idea why tommt 'the new kevin phillips' smith decided to go to derby ?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hasselbaink has been released on a free :o

Oh well, I guess Chelsea don't need the money :$

[Wengerland]

Apparantely Millwall are said to want Les Ferdinand. He'd better stay :'(

He's said he'll only leave us for a premiership club now :cool:

[Ferocious]

Middlesbrough confirm interest in Hargreaves and are said to be ready to make a £6.5 million bid. Middlesbrough are said to have a great chance of signing him as he has worked with manager Steve Mclaren in the England setup and is said to be a big fan of Mclarens coaching and managerial style.

Wooooooooooooooooot for the Boro :love:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Not so wooot the way he played in Euro 2004 :$

[LK]

Looks like Novo is going to turn Celtic down according to the Daily Record. He has said that he wants to hold out for a move to Rangers since that is his prefered option. This is kind of old news but ****ing delighted that Scott Severin has signed for Aberdeen. With Calderwood now as manager I see a much better season coming up than last which was just plain awful.

[toxic rooster]

I heard that Valencia were preparing to sue Benitez...:-\

Can anyone confirm this?

[Doink]

I heard that Valencia were preparing to sue Benitez...:-\

Can anyone confirm this?


yes i can confirm you have heard that valencia were preparing to sue Benitez!






is it just me or is anyone else going to miss houlier?

there here :roll: there there :eek: there every f**kin where :shifty: houliers eye's :wtf: houliers eye's

well thats what ill miss about him every time he got interviewed noone knew where the interviewer was stood coz he couldnt keep hiss eyes still !

[Doink]

Middlesbrough confirm interest in Hargreaves and are said to be ready to make a £6.5 million bid. Middlesbrough are said to have a great chance of signing him as he has worked with manager Steve Mclaren in the England setup and is said to be a big fan of Mclarens coaching and managerial style.

Wooooooooooooooooot for the Boro :love:

we are also looking to sign him as a possible replacement if zenden doesnt sign :wtf: hargreeves is right footed, plays right back, right midfield or centre midfield and we want him as a left winger?

did mclaren not see how he played in that position over in portugal?

he'd be a good signing but not in that position, id play him in centre mid with boatang.

also i dont know if im easily pleased or was drunk watching holland match last night but either way i was impressed by reizeger, he kept ronaldo quite until they switched wings with him and was attacking well in second half. think dipite his age he might be a decent signing for us.

(only thing that worries me is the size of his mouth and lips, if we get a strong wind coming off the tees then he'd but f**ked trying to run against it with the wind resistance theyd cause)

[Ferocious]

(only thing that worries me is the size of his mouth and lips, if we get a strong wind coming off the tees then he'd but f**ked trying to run against it with the wind resistance theyd cause)
This is very true, plus everyone would think he was Hamilton Ricard and flame the shit out of him.

[Ferocious]

Middlesbrough signing Kluivert on a free, :eek: I predict that this transfer will not go through.

[Wengerland]

We've signed Jason Wilcox :(

We need some younger players please Micky :mad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Man U have signed one of Barcelona's young defenders, Gerard Pique Bernabeu (oh the irony)

Viduka looks set to move to Boro for £4m

Milner looks set to move to Newcastle for £3.6m

Davids has said he likes the offer he's had from Tottenham :| :eek:

[Doink]

Middlesbrough signing Kluivert on a free, :eek: I predict that this transfer will not go through.


what why not ? are we not good enough for him, after the way he played in portugal they must be queing up for him now!

when he does actually put the effort in and plays then he is good & if he did this then he would be a good signing. personnly id like to see us go for jimmy fh as dispite his age he is a proven scorer in our league and has at least 2-3 years left in him.

also viduka is set for a medical today, only thing that worries me is that i remember him getting sent off during his last few games for leeds. does anyone know if he served a ban or if he still has to serve one?

[Wengerland]

I think Viduka would miss your first game, he was sent off at Bolton and missed their last 2 games after that, probably due to suspension for both. I would think it's a 3 game ban, so just the first game for you.

[Wengerland]

Davids has said he likes the offer he's had from Tottenham :| :eek:

That would be a good move for Spurs. Personally i think Liverpool should go for him, he's a good midfielder and gets through a lot of work, which would help Gerrard. He was also a main factor in Barcelona's turnaround last year, they were struggling even with Ronaldinho in the team and it wasn't until Davids was loaned that they climbed the table.

There's also the fact that he's free.

In other news, Bryan Hughes has gone to Charlton from Birmingham on a bosman.

[91]

Davids has said he likes the offer he's had from Tottenham :| :eek:
No more astounding than a team like Middlesbrough signing/wanting to sign all these world class players.

[Ferocious]

If we get Kluivert and Viduka and Hargreaves I will be happy with The managers Summer signing for the first time since the summer we bought Juninho, Ravenelli and Emerson.

[The Mask]

ahahah kluivert

[Cactus Sid]

That would be a good move for Spurs. Personally i think Liverpool should go for him, he's a good midfielder and gets through a lot of work, which would help Gerrard. He was also a main factor in Barcelona's turnaround last year, they were struggling even with Ronaldinho in the team and it wasn't until Davids was loaned that they climbed the table.


Liverpool have been linked with him, apparently 2 English Clubs are in for him, and one is definetly Tottenham.

Also, fairly suprising news when you consider who else he has been linked with, Mateja Kezman is in talks with Chelsea.

[Doink]

If we get Kluivert and Viduka and Hargreaves I will be happy with The managers Summer signing for the first time since the summer we bought Juninho, Ravenelli and Emerson.

what you mean you wernt happy the summer we bought merson & maddison?

whats with the name change anyway terry?

[Skeletor2]

Newcastle have officially signed Milner for £5m. Should be a good signing for us, Nicky Butt is supposed to be following by the end of next week.

[Ferocious]

what you mean you wernt happy the summer we bought merson & maddison?

whats with the name change anyway terry?
Face Turn, Also no I wasn't Maddison was a steaming pile of shite and Merson screwed us over.

[Ferocious]

Newcastle have officially signed Milner for £5m. Should be a good signing for us, Nicky Butt is supposed to be following by the end of next week.Nicky Butt just signed for Tottenham for 4.5 million.

[Ferocious]

:shifty:

[Doink]

Newcastle have officially signed Milner for £5m. Should be a good signing for us, .

how? no seriously is he any better than what you already have? personally id say ambrose was the better out of the 2 of them.

[Doink]

Face Turn, Also no I wasn't Maddison was a steaming pile of shite and Merson screwed us over.

i thought we had another boro fan come on her at first :$

[Mr. Monday Morning]

No more astounding than a team like Middlesbrough signing/wanting to sign all these world class players.

Difference between a club being linked with a player and the player themselves saying they would agree to the move.

Boro have been linked with a stupid number of huge names for years, way back to the Bryan Robson days. Partly why I hate Bryan Robson, every f</>ucking week he'd come out and say "Yes, we're interested in *world class player*" when they would NEVER move to Middlesbrough.

Besides which who have Middlesbrough signed recently who's world class? :wtf:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

how? no seriously is he any better than what you already have? personally id say ambrose was the better out of the 2 of them.

Milner is far *far* better than Ambrose

Pompey have been linked with both Poborsky and Ricardo Fuller

[Skeletor2]

Ambrose needs to learn to cross. Right now he's just a player who runs up and down and occasionally does a wonder shot.

He also suffers a lot of pressure, being Nobby's replacement. That and his inexperience really show up in his performances. People are still angry about Nobby being sold and so he needs to develop into a seriously good player to earn forgiveness for something that's not his fault.

[Skeletor2]

Trabelsi is joining the arse for 3m apparently. Stupid Gunners being a more attractive club than us :mad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Stoke/Wolves is a match for kings :mad:

Wolves' opening game of the season - away to Stoke City - has been selected by Sky TV. The match will now be played on Sunday August 8.

No kick-off time has yet been confirmed but the game is likely to be scheduled for either before or after the Community Shield match.

:cool:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Merson could murder my entire family and he'd STILL be the man :cool:

Im not even saying anything about Ricardo Fuller until he has had a medical, signed a contract and had his photo taken with a shirt. Charlton will probably sign him tomorrow or something :mad: </font>

[Ferocious]

Difference between a club being linked with a player and the player themselves saying they would agree to the move.

Boro have been linked with a stupid number of huge names for years, way back to the Bryan Robson days. Partly why I hate Bryan Robson, every f</>ucking week he'd come out and say "Yes, we're interested in *world class player*" when they would NEVER move to Middlesbrough.

Besides which who have Middlesbrough signed recently who's world class? :wtf:
Gaizka Mendieta

[Doink]

Difference between a club being linked with a player and the player themselves saying they would agree to the move.

Boro have been linked with a stupid number of huge names for years, way back to the Bryan Robson days. Partly why I hate Bryan Robson, every f</>ucking week he'd come out and say "Yes, we're interested in *world class player*" when they would NEVER move to Middlesbrough.

Besides which who have Middlesbrough signed recently who's world class? :wtf:

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paragraph b - ok we have been linked with a stupid number of players over the past few years, no more than any over team though! come on all i read last summer was wolves are chasing *insert name*,wolves are in talks with, wolves have bid x amount for x player as they look to strenghten their side in hope of premiership survival. i can say i read the same about boro, charlton, newcastle, spurs, hell i even occasionally read chelsea were chasing people. come on its the same for every club and when robson said we were interested id say at least 6 times out of 10 when he said it we were and had contacted the other club about the player.

the last bit on paragraph b where you say they would NEVER (never being in capitals, clearly stating to myself that you are jelous of the signings boro have made over the years & have also never been to the area to see whats on offer to the players) sign for boro. i will say some names for you:

Bryan Robson - noone said he'd come here but he did.
Juninho - star of umbro cup, we got him
Ravinelli - european cup winner would never sign for boro, o hang on he did and scored 31 goals that season.
Paul Merson, Emerson,Southgate,Ince,Gazza,Geremi,Boksic etc. none of these players would ever play for boro but somehow they all did. can you explain this please Mr. MondayMorning ?

Paragraph c - please define world class as i havent seen wolves sign anone of this calibre unless you count carl cort :shifty: as SRS said mendieta is a world class player well lazio paid £28m for him so he must have something right?

in history there have only been about 2-3 players id say were world class - Pele, Usabio, Bobby Moore.

now if your talking who have boro signed that is good then juninho, zenden, doriva (world cup winner so could be classed as world class) etc.

your comments please MMM

[Mr. Monday Morning]

-Mendieta is good but not the player he was. If he was truly that good Lazio would never have let him go, or more to the point Barcelona would have signed him after he went on loan there. He wasn't even in the Spanish squad for Euro 2004 when he would've been an almost certain starter 2-3 years ago, so that tells you something.

-We were never linked with anyone who would be an unrealistic target for this club. When Robson was in charge all I ever read about was him being 'interested' in signing god only knows how many players *that were beyond Middlesbrough's means* - Man United get linked with a ton of players but they can buy almost anyone because they're a huge club...examples off the top of my head include the De Boer brothers (when they were still at Ajax and could've moved to any club in Europe), Sol Campbell, Kluivert (again when he had the pick of teams in Europe), Shevchenko, and I'm pretty sure at one point he might've mentioned Zidane :| The point is he made himself look like a prat by even thinking they would ever go near Middlesbrough.

-If you think I'm jealous of Middlesbrough you must be on a different planet.

-Bryan Robson - a mini Chelsea years before Abramovich came along. Threw money at a team and hoped some of it stuck. Won nothing. Eventually got found out. His fantastic management skills sure worked at Bradford this season didn't they?

-Juninho - wow, the Umbro Cup :| Seriously, he had a good season when he first arrived (lord knows why he did, I'll never understand it) but then his form dipped. Sold, broke his leg, couldn't get a regular place in a team back home, came back still good but not the player he once was.

-Ravenelli - booted out of Juventus as part of their revolving door of strikers in the late 90s. Lasted just over a season, mainly because of the fantastic paypacket he was picking up.

-Merson - good player but you can't honestly tell me he would slot into a major European team.

-Emerson - came for the money, lost interest in the 2nd half of the season, sold.

-Southgate - booted out of Villa as part of Deadly Doug's annual costcutting. Not the player he once was but still a decent defender. Best years are behind him though.

-Ince - see Southgate, replace Villa with Liverpool and costcutting with managerial fallout.

-Gascoigne - please. The man is and has been for years a walking joke. Besides which we had him last season so don't be so proud ;)

-Geremi - loan signing, doesn't really count. Could've come back but showed how much he liked the place by signing for Chelsea.

-Boksic - as before with Ravenelli, except Ravanelli wasn't a broken down cripple. Has flashes of his old self but time and injuries pretty much destroyed him as a player.

-World class, i.e. someone who could play for any team in the world. Dunno why you mention Wolves cause it's not about us, the last world class player we had was probably Billy Wright back in the 50s. Mendieta used to be very good, but he isn't the player he was. Zidane isn't world class? Nedved? Raul? Ayala? Shevchenko? Maldini? The list could go on.

-Zenden isn't your player, he's Chelsea's and he knew he wouldn't get a game this season if he hadn't moved somewhere. Doriva isn't all that - Roque Jnr is a world cup winner as well, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire at Leeds did he?

[Cactus Sid]

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paragraph b - ok we have been linked with a stupid number of players over the past few years, no more than any over team though! come on all i read last summer was wolves are chasing *insert name*,wolves are in talks with, wolves have bid x amount for x player as they look to strenghten their side in hope of premiership survival. i can say i read the same about boro, charlton, newcastle, spurs, hell i even occasionally read chelsea were chasing people. come on its the same for every club and when robson said we were interested id say at least 6 times out of 10 when he said it we were and had contacted the other club about the player.

the last bit on paragraph b where you say they would NEVER (never being in capitals, clearly stating to myself that you are jelous of the signings boro have made over the years & have also never been to the area to see whats on offer to the players) sign for boro. i will say some names for you:

Bryan Robson - noone said he'd come here but he did.
Juninho - star of umbro cup, we got him
Ravinelli - european cup winner would never sign for boro, o hang on he did and scored 31 goals that season.
Paul Merson, Emerson,Southgate,Ince,Gazza,Geremi,Boksic etc. none of these players would ever play for boro but somehow they all did. can you explain this please Mr. MondayMorning ?

Paragraph c - please define world class as i havent seen wolves sign anone of this calibre unless you count carl cort :shifty: as SRS said mendieta is a world class player well lazio paid £28m for him so he must have something right?

in history there have only been about 2-3 players id say were world class - Pele, Usabio, Bobby Moore.

now if your talking who have boro signed that is good then juninho, zenden, doriva (world cup winner so could be classed as world class) etc.

your comments please MMM

I could reply for him.

Middlesbrough are ALWAYS linked with big players. Ok, a lot of the time its just the media fishing for a story, but aside from the top 5 clubs in the Premiership you have been linked (possible exception being Tottenham) with more players than anyone else, and so often it turns out to be bullsh</>it.

Also, why are you having a go at Wolves? Wolves (probably by MMM's own admission) are not a big club. They'd just been promoted, they were linked with plenty of players, because the media were playing up to the fact that they had just been promoted and that they needed to build the squad up. There is a marked difference between "linked with players because you need more" and "linked with players because people are trying to take a poxy north eastern club and make it look bigger than it actually is". Honestly, take this from anyone who is not a Middlesbrough fan, its not hating you, because to be honest no-one (bar Sunderland/Newcastle) has any reason to hate such a poxy small club. It is just the truth, Middlesbrough are linked with everyone, and Bryan Robson is notorious for getting the hopes of the fans up, and failing them. Hey, you might have had a good team, but he still got you relegated.

Yes, Boro have signed a fair share of good players, but where has it got you?

Bryan Robson,Juninho, Ravinelli, Paul Merson, Emerson,Southgate,Ince,Gazza,Geremi,Boksic

You mention this lot. Notice that they are all either WAY past there best, or were instrumental in getting you to the great heights of nowhere. Bryan Robson is an absolute failure as a football manager. Besides, you seem to forget one of the major reasons anyone would play for a team like Middlesbrough. You're a big club???? NO. Its the almighty dollar my friend. Each of them will have been earning £50,000 a week.

If you wanna define World Class, how about players who are highly regarded around the world as top footballing talent. You could take World Class as the biggest compliment in football standards today, while the players you mention would come under the category of Legendary footballers.

Again, stop hating on Wolves. They can't help being sh</>it (sorry MMM :'( )

Your defending a team who have done precisely fu</>ck all after spending millions and millions of pounds only players who are looking for a payday. The club has gone, and is going nowhere. You have a track record for paying ridiculous sums of money to players who are often past their best. You have a track record for saying you are going to sign player after player, you are linked with some top-quality players, who afterwards don't sign for you. Don't have a go at someone for stating the truth.

Also, if your thinking about having a go at Liverpool, purely as a means of retalitation, don't bother.

[Doink]

-Mendieta is good but not the player he was. If he was truly that good Lazio would never have let him go, or more to the point Barcelona would have signed him after he went on loan there. He wasn't even in the Spanish squad for Euro 2004 when he would've been an almost certain starter 2-3 years ago, so that tells you something. - LAZIO LET HIM GO BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LEEDS OF ITALY, HOW DID DAVIDS DO AT BARCA? SURLY THEY SHOULD HAVE SIGNED HIM ASWELL? SPAIN SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MENDI TO PORTUGAL, HE WAS A NUMBER OF PLAYERS THAT SHOULD HAVE GONE BUT DIDNT.

-We were never linked with anyone who would be an unrealistic target for this club. When Robson was in charge all I ever read about was him being 'interested' in signing god only knows how many players *that were beyond Middlesbrough's means* - Man United get linked with a ton of players but they can buy almost anyone because they're a huge club...examples off the top of my head include the De Boer brothers (when they were still at Ajax and could've moved to any club in Europe), Sol Campbell, Kluivert (again when he had the pick of teams in Europe), Shevchenko, and I'm pretty sure at one point he might've mentioned Zidane :| The point is he made himself look like a prat by even thinking they would ever go near Middlesbrough. - DE BOER INTREST CAME JUST BEFORE RANGERS MOVED IN. WE HAVE NEVER INQUIRED ABOUT SOL CAMPBELL SO THAT NY FRIEND IS PAPER TALK AS IS SHEVCHENKO. KLUIVERT TURNED US DOWN AS WANTS TO PLAY IN LONDON, YOU ARE MAKING UP ZIDANE JUST SO YOUR PARAGRAPH LOOKS BIGGER. WE WOULD LOVE HIM TO COME HERE BUT WE COULDNT AFFORD HIM & HAVE NEVER ATTEMPTED TO SIGN HIM.

-If you think I'm jealous of Middlesbrough you must be on a different planet. NOPE JUST A DIFFERENT POSTAL AREA

-Bryan Robson - a mini Chelsea years before Abramovich came along. Threw money at a team and hoped some of it stuck. Won nothing. Eventually got found out. His fantastic management skills sure worked at Bradford this season didn't they? - ROBSON THREW NO MONEY INTO THIS CLUB,HE HELPED TURN US FROM A MEDIOKER OLD 1ST DIV CLUB INTO A RESPECTABLE MIDTABLE PREMIERSHIP TEAM. WE SACKED HIM DUE TO THE FACT HE DOESNT KNOW WHEN TO US SUBSTITUTES. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BORO NOT BRADFORD SO THAT HAS NO RELIVANCE

-Juninho - wow, the Umbro Cup :| Seriously, he had a good season when he first arrived (lord knows why he did, I'll never understand it) but then his form dipped. Sold, broke his leg, couldn't get a regular place in a team back home, came back still good but not the player he once was.- UMBRO CUP MENTIONED AS THATS WHEN HE FIRST CAME TO LIGHT WITHIN THE ENGLISH GAME, WE BEAT OFF ARSENAL TO SIGN HIM. HIS FORMED DIPPED B4 WE SOLD HIM???? THE GUY GOT PIPPED BY ZOLA FOR PLAYER OF THE YEAR DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A DIP IN FORM? HE WAS SOLD OUT OF RESPECT & FINANCIAL REASONS, WE GOT A GOOD OFFER & WITH WORLD CUP COMING UP HE NEED TO BE IN A TOP DIVISION TO GET NOTICED, HE UNFORTUANTLY BROKE HIS LEG AND MISSED OUT. WHEN CAME ON LOAN ROBSON PLAYED HIM OUT OF POSITION. LAST SEASON HE WAS OUR SECOND TOP SCORER. PLEASE DO NOT KNOCK THIS GUY AS HE IS QUALITY AND HE HAS A HEART THAT IS F**KIN BREATHING BORO EVERY TIME HE PULLS ON THAT SHIRT. THE GUY IS COMMITTED & IM HAPPY WITH THAT.

-Ravenelli - booted out of Juventus as part of their revolving door of strikers in the late 90s. Lasted just over a season, mainly because of the fantastic paypacket he was picking up. - SO WHAT HE STILL CAME HERE THEREFORE DEAFEATING YOUR OPINION

-Merson - good player but you can't honestly tell me he would slot into a major European team. HE DID - ARSENAL, WE GOT HIM WHICH SHOCKED PEOPLE AS THEY THOUGHT HE WOULDNT COME HERE BUT HE DID.

-Emerson - came for the money, lost interest in the 2nd half of the season, sold. - WENT AWOL DUE TO HIS WIFE BEING A BITCH, WAS STILL PLAYING FOR US THE FOLLOWING YEAR

-Southgate - booted out of Villa as part of Deadly Doug's annual costcutting. Not the player he once was but still a decent defender. Best years are behind him though. - HAD THE CHOICE OF CLUBS AS HAD PLENTY OF OFFERS, HE CHOOSE US

-Ince - see Southgate, replace Villa with Liverpool and costcutting with managerial fallout.- SEE SOUTHGATE COMMENTS

-Gascoigne - please. The man is and has been for years a walking joke. Besides which we had him last season so don't be so proud ;) - WE HAD HIM '97,98 & '99 HE WAS STILL A GOOD PLAYER AND WOULD HAVE BEEN A LEGEND FOR US IF HOODLE HADNT HAVE DROPPED HIM FROM WORLD CUP SQUAD, THAT IS WHAT EVENTUALLY DESTROYED GAZZA.

-Geremi - loan signing, doesn't really count. Could've come back but showed how much he liked the place by signing for Chelsea. - ACTUALLY SHOWED HOW MUCH HE LIKED MONEY BY SIGNING FOR CHELSEA, HE MAY HAVE BEEN ON LOAN BUT HE HAD OTHER OPTIONS I.E CHELSEA TRYED TO GET HIM BUT HE CHOOSE US THEN WENT TO THEM FOR THE MONEY.

-Boksic - as before with Ravenelli, except Ravanelli wasn't a broken down cripple. Has flashes of his old self but time and injuries pretty much destroyed him as a player. - POINT WAS HE WAS DEEMED A WORLD CLASS PLAYER WHO WOULDNT GO TO A SMALL TOWN LIKE BORO BUT HE DID. WISH HE HADNT THOUGH (MONEY WAS FACTOR HE CAME HERE)

-World class, i.e. someone who could play for any team in the world. Dunno why you mention Wolves cause it's not about us, the last world class player we had was probably Billy Wright back in the 50s. Mendieta used to be very good, but he isn't the player he was. Zidane isn't world class? Nedved? Raul? Ayala? Shevchenko? Maldini? The list could go on. - ZIDANE ISNT WORLD CLASS IN MY OPINION BUT BY YOUR DEFO OF WORLD CLASS THEN THE PLAYERS YOU MENTIONED ARE, RAUL HASNT DONE ANYTHING OTHER THAN PLAY GOOD CLUB FOOTBALL WHAT AS HE DONE IN MAJOR INTERNATIONAL TOURNIMENTS? AYALA & SHEVCHENKO ARE THE SAME. AFTER EURO 2004 NEDVED IS ON HIS WAY AND MALDINI CAN BE ADDED TO MY ORIGINAL LIST

-Zenden isn't your player, he's Chelsea's and he knew he wouldn't get a game this season if he hadn't moved somewhere. Doriva isn't all that - Roque Jnr is a world cup winner as well, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire at Leeds did he?- AGAIN ZENDEN HAD OPTIONS BUT HE CHOSE TO COME TO US OTHER THAN OTHER CLUBS. DORIVA IS A WORK HORSE, HE DOES A GOOD IN PRIMIERSHIP WHEN CALLED UPON UNLIKE ROQUE JNR. I MENTIONED DORIVA AS WAS UNSURE AS TO YOUR DEFONITION OF WORLD CLASS.

[Wengerland]

According to the Express, Crespo has been loaned to AC Milan.

[Doink]

I could reply for him.

Middlesbrough are ALWAYS linked with big players. Ok, a lot of the time its just the media fishing for a story, but aside from the top 5 clubs in the Premiership you have been linked (possible exception being Tottenham) with more players than anyone else, and so often it turns out to be bullsh</>it.

Also, why are you having a go at Wolves? Wolves (probably by MMM's own admission) are not a big club. They'd just been promoted, they were linked with plenty of players, because the media were playing up to the fact that they had just been promoted and that they needed to build the squad up. There is a marked difference between "linked with players because you need more" and "linked with players because people are trying to take a poxy north eastern club and make it look bigger than it actually is". Honestly, take this from anyone who is not a Middlesbrough fan, its not hating you, because to be honest no-one (bar Sunderland/Newcastle) has any reason to hate such a poxy small club. It is just the truth, Middlesbrough are linked with everyone, and Bryan Robson is notorious for getting the hopes of the fans up, and failing them. Hey, you might have had a good team, but he still got you relegated.

Yes, Boro have signed a fair share of good players, but where has it got you?

Bryan Robson,Juninho, Ravinelli, Paul Merson, Emerson,Southgate,Ince,Gazza,Geremi,Boksic

You mention this lot. Notice that they are all either WAY past there best, or were instrumental in getting you to the great heights of nowhere. Bryan Robson is an absolute failure as a football manager. Besides, you seem to forget one of the major reasons anyone would play for a team like Middlesbrough. You're a big club???? NO. Its the almighty dollar my friend. Each of them will have been earning £50,000 a week.

If you wanna define World Class, how about players who are highly regarded around the world as top footballing talent. You could take World Class as the biggest compliment in football standards today, while the players you mention would come under the category of Legendary footballers.

Again, stop hating on Wolves. They can't help being sh</>it (sorry MMM :'( )

Your defending a team who have done precisely fu</>ck all after spending millions and millions of pounds only players who are looking for a payday. The club has gone, and is going nowhere. You have a track record for paying ridiculous sums of money to players who are often past their best. You have a track record for saying you are going to sign player after player, you are linked with some top-quality players, who afterwards don't sign for you. Don't have a go at someone for stating the truth.

Also, if your thinking about having a go at Liverpool, purely as a means of retalitation, don't bother.


firstly i wasnt having a go at wolves i was simply pointing out that they have been linked with numourous players as have middlesbrough. the reason for this being like you said the PRESS trying to get a story.

for fuck sake the sun advertised about 4 years ago that liverpool were in talks with a player called didier baptise! this player is a fictional person from the sky 1 soap dream team. so the press make things up all the time.

we are not a poxy noth east club nor are we a big club. what we are is a premier league team who are looking to mobe on and become one of the big clubs. it is a word called ambision and that is what we are selling to the players that come here. thus proving effective last season by winning the league cup and getting into europe.

bryan robson contributed to getting us relegated, look up the facts moron it was keith lamb, boro's cheif executive who advised him and the players we had available that we didnt have to travel to blackburn as he'd sorted it with the F.A, thus proving to be a lie and we had 3 points deducted, had they not been deducted facts show we would have stayed up!

all bar boksic the players i mentioned have helped the club in some way, including gazza, on his first full season he got more man of match awards than any other boro player!

i am defending a team that has spent millions in the past, now have a wage structure which gibson will not break and are in europe!

[Doink]

According to the Express, Crespo has been loaned to AC Milan.

if this is true than thats 2 forwards out within a week

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Wasn't Boksic the premiership's highest paid player at one point? :o

I dunno, I like Boro but it has also annoyed me that they're always linked with these great players. I understand that your Chairman loves the club and wants to take it forward but sometimes, a bit like Roman, it seems he has more money than sense. With the amount of money that Gibson and McLaren have spent, id be asking why you were finishing behind the likes of Charlton and Bolton.

Big names and expensive players dont make great teams.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I didn't say Robson threw money into the team, I said he threw money at the team. He spent millions on either transfer fees or wages and for a time it worked, but then he got found out because as a manager he is not much cop. He managed to get Bradford relegated this season as another example of his 'skills', so it very much is relevant.

Ravanelli signing for Middlesbrough for the money doesn't 'defeat my opinion' :wtf: it's the whole point. It's like old players signing for teams in Qatar or Saudi Arabia or wherever...they get offered stupid sums of money, of course they're going to take it.

The whole point about Merson was that he was a spent force when Arsenal let him go. At that point in his career (and since) he has not been the player he was at his peak for various reasons. If he hadn't had his drugs/booze/gambling habits and had looked after himself, you wouldn't have had a chance of signing him.

The thing about Geremi signing for Chelsea for money is ironic as that is the major reason behind people like Southgate and Ince signing for you years before. Middlesbrough had (not any more, I will give you that) a well-deserved reputation for paying out stupid sums of money to players.

Gascoigne should never have gone to the World Cup in 98, Euro 96 was the last time he was ever any good as a player. Just because he wins a player of the game award doesn't mean he's any cop...Paul Butler and Jody Craddock won player of the game awards for us this season, doesn't mean they weren't shite :|

Boksic was deemed a world class player 2-3 years before he signed for Middlesbrough. By the time he did he wasn't one any more. Similar theme with most of the players listed.

Saying Zidane isn't world class doesn't exactly help your stance :| Raul has played in the Real Madrid team for the last 8-9 years without ever being displaced, considering the amount of talent that has gone through that club that is an amazing feat. As for internationals, I'm almost certain he's Spain's top goalscorer of all time (or close to it)...just because they as a team choke doesn't mean he isn't a world class player who could play for any team (which is the criteria I already stated). Same for Ayala and Shevchenko...just because Argentina and Ukraine haven't won anything doesn't mean they're not outstanding players. Nedved is not 'on his way out' :wtf: If he was Juventus would be rid of him...you might stand a chance of signing him then :lol: And Maldini is a better defender than your entire back 4 put together.

[Rob]

Boro piss on Wolves. Just had to say that even if it's not the arguement :D

And when Boro signed Juninho the first time, he was easy top 10 best players in the world and was the best player in Britain by the end of the season (yes, better than Cantona).

[Mr. Monday Morning]

And Porto piss on Man U :p

[toxic rooster]

"A small Portuguese child laughed at my moustache, saying his was thicker and more bushy. I held him down and knuckled his head until he said that Manchester United are the best team in the whole wide world and Paul Scholes' goal against Porto was definitely a goal which means that Porto are poo."

Ahhh...good old football365 and their constant piss-taking :love:

[Doink]

Boro piss on Wolves. Just had to say that even if it's not the arguement :D

And when Boro signed Juninho the first time, he was easy top 10 best players in the world and was the best player in Britain by the end of the season (yes, better than Cantona).

thank you thats my point when he first played in england in the umbro cup a hell of a lot of clubs were looking at him and trying to sign him. he came to middlesbrough and the guy is a legend second only to the late great wilf mannion in our history.

MMM if you go back to your original point you said that boro are linked with players that would NEVER come to middlesbrough. all the formentioned players were said by many in the press to not consider us. reguardless of wether we paid them £63k a week (ala boksic) or they lived in manchester (ala robson for first seson as manger) the point my friend is they said the players wouldnt come and play for us yet they did.

you are only peed off because you read that boro are chasing this player then that player that aint our fault if you have a problem with it take it up with the newspaper you read it in or dont read that artical. i get pissed off reading chelsea are set to sign who ever but i aint bitching about it.

2 other things for you MMM

a) robson may have got bradford relegated but that had nothing to do with the fact of your point about middlesbrough not being able to sign people because they would NEver play for us. You say he's a bad manager i disagree, he's not the best but he's not the worst and i think bradford were doomed along time before he took over.

b) i never said nedved was on his way out, i said he was on his way to being a world class player. Raul may be spains top scorer but when it really matters i.e world cup he just doesnt do it. Zidane is a good player but i also think he is a bit lazy. Malidini was brilliant, i am talking paulo & i assume you are too, if he's better than the boro back 4 then he's better than the full wolves squad!

[Doink]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Wasn't Boksic the premiership's highest paid player at one point? :o

I dunno, I like Boro but it has also annoyed me that they're always linked with these great players. I understand that your Chairman loves the club and wants to take it forward but sometimes, a bit like Roman, it seems he has more money than sense. With the amount of money that Gibson and McLaren have spent, id be asking why you were finishing behind the likes of Charlton and Bolton.

Big names and expensive players dont make great teams.</font>

this question has been raised and even tho he got us into europe and won our first cup, steve mclaren is belived to be in his make or break year as our manager

[Mr. Monday Morning]

MMM if you go back to your original point you said that boro are linked with players that would NEVER come to middlesbrough. all the formentioned players were said by many in the press to not consider us. reguardless of wether we paid them £63k a week (ala boksic) or they lived in manchester (ala robson for first seson as manger) the point my friend is they said the players wouldnt come and play for us yet they did.

You're saying Gareth Southgate is the equal of Maldini? :wtf: No offence but none of the players listed are what I would call world class, which is what my point was to begin with. Juninho is about the only player you've signed in recent years when he has been at the peak of his game, the rest are either in a dip or past it altogether.

you are only peed off because you read that boro are chasing this player then that player that aint our fault if you have a problem with it take it up with the newspaper you read it in or dont read that artical. i get pissed off reading chelsea are set to sign who ever but i aint bitching about it.

No see this is where you're going wrong. There's a difference between a paper making up bullshit like "Chesterfield to sign Vieira" and someone from the club ie the manager SAYING "Yes we're looking to sign X" or "We'd be very interested in signing Y". THAT is what Robson was guilty of for so many years. If he'd kept his trap shut I'd have had no problem with him.

2 other things for you MMM

a) robson may have got bradford relegated but that had nothing to do with the fact of your point about middlesbrough not being able to sign people because they would NEver play for us. You say he's a bad manager i disagree, he's not the best but he's not the worst and i think bradford were doomed along time before he took over.

No, it has to do with you lumping Robson in with the group of players you mentioned. Robson is not much cop as a manager, so it should not be such a big deal he went there. Hell, he went to Bradford, making it even less of a big deal.


b) i never said nedved was on his way out, i said he was on his way to being a world class player. Raul may be spains top scorer but when it really matters i.e world cup he just doesnt do it. Zidane is a good player but i also think he is a bit lazy. Malidini was brilliant, i am talking paulo & i assume you are too, if he's better than the boro back 4 then he's better than the full wolves squad!

By 'on his way' I thought you meant he was past his prime, so my bad there. But if you think he isn't already then :wtf: Yet another difference of opinion. I can't see how you say Raul doesn't do it in major international competitions and yet still don't consider Zidane, who was won virtually everything in the modern game, to be world class.

Maldini probably is better than the Wolves squad :-\ But that's not exactly a disgrace either.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

b) i never said nedved was on his way out, i said he was on his way to being a world class player. Raul may be spains top scorer but when it really matters i.e world cup he just doesnt do it. Zidane is a good player but i also think he is a bit lazy. Malidini was brilliant, i am talking paulo & i assume you are too, if he's better than the boro back 4 then he's better than the full wolves squad!

Raul is the top goalscorer of all time in the Champions League.

Zinedine Zidane scored 2 goals in a World Cup final to win it for his country. He also inspired his team to win the European Championships in 2000. He has also scored the winning goal in the Champions League final for Real Madrid and has won the two strongest league titles in Europe, Serie A and La Liga.

Now I don't really give a shit about the rest of your argument, but to deny either of those two are world class players...you need to have a little word with yourself.

[Oxstar]

Acording to The People newspaper Crystal Palace are weighing up a move for West Ham midfielder Steve Lomas, while the Eagles have tabled a £500,000 bid for Leicester striker James Scowcroft. Also in another newspaper I read that Palace are close to signing Everton Forward Wayne Rooney??? only joking :lol: I read that Palace are close to signing Everton Forward Kevin Campbell if this is true :mad: :mad: :mad: At all of it.

[Wengerland]

Please take Scowcroft.

[Oxstar]

Please take Scowcroft.
Damn it, I was waiting for you to reply and say he is a good player. I guess Scowcroft is worse than Shipperly. Relagated before the season starts :'( Somebody say something positive about Palace before I go mad.

[Wengerland]

He just didn't have the best season last year, i wouldn't go as far as saying he's worse than Shipperley though ;).

I just want him to leave because he'd be holding back Canero from playing right midfield, which is where i'd like to see him.Also for the money, which could go towards signing Connolly or someone, or the Williams tribunal fee.

[Oxstar]

I always thought Scowcroft was a striker. Connolly is a brilliant player I still can't work out why Palace got Shipperly instead of Connolly. Williams is a good player too. Maybe Palace will sign them.

[Wengerland]

Williams has joined us from Forest already.

When we had Scowcroft as a right or left midfielder in division 1 last time it worked well, but not in the premiership.He did do quite well towards the end of the season though.If you used him as an out and out striker then he could link well with Johnson i suppose, he's just not very prolific.

[Oxstar]

Williams has joined us from Forest already.

Oh :?: I never knew. I hope this Hungarian striker Sandor Torghelle is good, well he scored 2 goals against Germany so I guess he must be ok.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

David Connolly is a tosser :mad:

[Oxstar]

David Connolly is a tosser :mad:
Neil Shipperly is a tosser, worse Palace player since Tomas Brolin.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Shipperly is a scummer. Derry wont cut it either. You'll need to just completly gut your squad and sign a shit load of new players.

Thats what we did and it worked.</font>

[Wengerland]

Sir Les has gone to Bolton :'(

I suppose it's money off the wage bill but it's still a big loss.

[Doink]

You're saying Gareth Southgate is the equal of Maldini? :wtf:

THAT is what Robson was guilty of for so many years. If he'd kept his trap shut I'd have had no problem with him.

No, it has to do with you lumping Robson in with the group of players you mentioned.

By 'on his way' I thought you meant he was past his prime, so my bad there. But if you think he isn't already then :wtf: Yet another difference of opinion. I can't see how you say Raul doesn't do it in major international competitions and yet still don't consider Zidane, who was won virtually everything in the modern game, to be world class.

Maldini probably is better than the Wolves squad :-\ But that's not exactly a disgrace either.

last word on this, i never said southgate was the equal of maldini, if i had of done then i would have said add southgate to the list of pele etc but i didnt i said add maldini.

like i said previously id say at least 6 - 10 were genuine intrest in players when robson was manager which he followed up on. only thing is if there is a good player who may became available you get numourous managers saying they would be interested but have no follow up (example of this is young wayne rooney - how many managers have said they would like him since euro 2004)

i only mentioned robson as he was still a player when he came to us and we made him a player manager

also my bad about nedved as i could have worded it better, everyone has different opinions about players and i think Zidane is a good player again he is on his way to being world class but i still think he can be lazy and thats why i dont class him in that catagory YET. raul is famous for doing it in any competition for any club except spain at major competitions so that is why i dont class him as being WORLD class as he scores in friendly's but always lets you down in major competitions.

Maldini was quality and was also prob better than the boro squad!

[Doink]

New Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has been analysing his squad after taking over the helm at Stamford Bridge.

THis is what he had to say:

"I think there are too many names since I was linked with Chelsea, even before I signed I heard about 100 players being linked with Chelsea. I understand why but I don't change my mind and my way of things.

"I repeat what I said a few weeks ago - 23, maximum 24. So we have 20 players decided to be in our squad definitely and I would say we have three or four more spaces. These can be spaces for new players or for players who are already Chelsea players. It depends on the situation.

"The way I want to think is something like this - right backs Glen Johnson and Paulo Ferreira. Is closed.

"Left backs Celestine Babayaro and Wayne Bridge, is closed. Outside left - Arjen Robben and Damien Duff. Closed.

"Central defence - open. Midfield players - still open. Strikers - I don't know yet!"

Mateja Kezman is undergoing a medical as he looks to complete his switch from PSV Eindhoven.

"After the Chelsea offer, all the other options went down," he stated.

"The financial terms are fantastic but, on the other hand, Chelsea are not a club that you can turn down.

"I am overwhelmed as I can finally show what I am really worth. I can hardly wait to run out at Stamford Bridge."

[Doink]

erm point of above was there could be some bargains going at chelsea, notice no mention of joe cole from chelsea's new boss.

newcastle are refusing to comment on speculation that kluivert is in talks, now according to malcum mcdonald (ex newcastle man) they are normally the type of club to just say no its not true, so possible a signing there!

also if he does sign that means they will have him,shearer, bellamy,milner,lua lua and amiobe fighting for 2 places (not including youngsters like chopra pushing for a place).

now lua lua wont get back in team for things he said about the club, but amiobe must be pissed as he has just signed a 5 year contract only for newcastle to sign 2 more forwards (if PK signs). he may well put in for a transfer according to malcum mcdonald.

also reizeger is in boro for a medical & is expected to be unvailed tomorrow or wednesday alongside viduka!

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Milner can play on the wing though, he did for most of last season. Shearer has one season left. Lua Lua will be coming to us when Newcastle agree to a reasonable fee. Bellamy has a really out of proportion body with a huge head and tiny legs and he beats up women, he's also injured a lot of the time.

Ameobi will get his chance.</font>

[Skeletor2]

Well I'm begging for Freddie Shepherd to take the 1.5m from you guys to get rid of Lua Lua. If he doesn't go to you, he'll rot in the reserves for a year then leave on a free and probably join some 1st division team.

[Ferocious]

Michael Reiziger was at Middlesbrough today, having a medical.

[diothoir]

Leeds signings

Danny Pugh, Clarke Carlisle, Paul Butler, Julian Joachim, Danny Cadamarteri, Matthew Spring, Jermaine Wright, Michael Ricketts.

Leeds are also in talks with Steve Simonsen.
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I only know Joachim, Cadamarteri and Ricketts. :$ Although Joachim and Ricketts could be a good pair in the 1st Division/Championship.

Some info about the other guys on the lists would be nice.

[Doink]

Leeds signings

Danny Pugh, Clarke Carlisle, Paul Butler, Julian Joachim, Danny Cadamarteri, Matthew Spring, Jermaine Wright, Michael Ricketts.

Leeds are also in talks with Steve Simonsen.
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I only know Joachim, Cadamarteri and Ricketts. :$ Although Joachim and Ricketts could be a good pair in the 1st Division/Championship.

Some info about the other guys on the lists would be nice.

jermaine Wright was at ipswich, he is ok and has a decent shot on him, occasionally scores good goals from distance, should do well.

Paul Butler, was he the guy from wolves? if so think he's ex sunderland & is about 30-33 so has experience but i wouldnt say he's the best and he has a tempremant that every time i see him play i think he's going to get sent off.

didnt see enough of Micheal Ricketts to pass judgement, apparently he does well in training and was the best finisher ever, i assume they taked about clearing his plate after lunch when they said this.

[The Mask]

Leeds signings

Danny Pugh, Clarke Carlisle, Paul Butler, Julian Joachim, Danny Cadamarteri, Matthew Spring, Jermaine Wright, Michael Ricketts.

Leeds are also in talks with Steve Simonsen.
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I only know Joachim, Cadamarteri and Ricketts. :$ Although Joachim and Ricketts could be a good pair in the 1st Division/Championship.

Some info about the other guys on the lists would be nice.

Danny Pugh came to you from our reserves, with alan smith going the other way. I think he's a winger.

[Wengerland]

Joachim is quality, don't know about any others though :$

I'm pretty pleased that the McAteer deal to us has fallen through aswell :$

[Doink]

sunderland are set to sign frank lampard!!!!





















and if things work out they are considering trying to sign his son from chelsea ;)

[Oxstar]

So Crystal Palace have signed Hungarian international goalkeeper Gabor Kiraly, I doubt any of you have even heard of him before but if you have can you tell me if he is any good. Also our bid for James Scowcroft was rejected thank you Leicester and WWEngland:D

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Paul Butler is the shitest central defender in the world, and I'm glad we're rid of him.

[Wengerland]

So Crystal Palace have signed Hungarian international goalkeeper Gabor Kiraly, I doubt any of you have even heard of him before but if you have can you tell me if he is any good. Also our bid for James Scowcroft was rejected thank you Leicester and WWEngland:D

:-\

Someone on the BBC board said he thought £1 million was his worth and was pretty complimentary of him.I just hope that,if he stays, he isn't picked ahead of Canero.Even though Canero would most likely play at right back anyway, he looked better in midfield going forward.

I've heard of that keeper, seems to be a good signing.Only real thing i know about him is that he wore grey jogger type things during matches :o

[The Mask]

wooo, signed some young bastard from parma.

[Doink]

we have signed reizeger, and are set to complete deals for viduka & zenden within next 48hrs. we are also ment to be going head to head against newcastle for kluivert.
Juninho is staying put according to keith lamb there is no truth in the celtic rumours, now that it has come from his mouth i willl say good luck to juninho in his new career at celtic as everything that comes out of keith lambs mouth is a load of monkey shit! (noone had even heard of celtic roumers until he bought them up - what a knob)

i cant believe we are stil waiting to complete the viduka deal, apparently he has a cash wrangle with leeds to settle before we can sign him.

Duberry is set to sign for wolves & matteo has signed for blackburn.

Also does anyone know who came on for gazza in the fa cup final between spurs & forest????






















St Johns Ambulance men :lol:

[Doink]

BORO CONFIRM VIDUKA CAPTURE

:love: someone who looks like he might score goals :D

http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,54-1142139,00.html

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ince has re-signed :love:

Duberry deal is off :yes:

[Oxstar]

Crystal Palace have agreed a £2 million fee for Tim Cahill I wonder if he will agree personal terms? I think he's a really good player.

[diothoir]

GODDAMMIT WOLVES TAKE DUBERRY THE FUCK AWAY :MAD:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">West Brom are after Lua Lua and have given in and paid Newcastle's £2,000,000

More fool them then, he aint worth £2,000,000. Newcastle bought him for £2,250,000 and since then he's spent 3 years in the reserves and has scored about 2 premiership goals.

Lua Lua's game is about pace, thats all he offers, he's a complete headless chicken. If West Brom plan on playing him on his own, they're screwed because he wont get any goals.

I still wish we had got him for a realistic price because his headless chicken style draws defenders away from Yakubu, allowing him loads of space to make Ugo Ehiogausgoeipaipsfsfzzzadsao look dumb and stick 4 past him.

:'(</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

No, you take our shit defender, we don't take yours :cool:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">you dont need him anyhow. JOLEON LESCOTT :cool:

also apparently we're after Diouf and Diao :o</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">JOLEON LESCOTT :cool:</font>

:love:

Leeds want to keep Duberry apparently :o

[Cactus Sid]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">
also apparently we're after Diouf and Diao :o</font>

Truly fantastic footballers, a huge loss for Liverpool if they leave.

[Ferocious]

Local newspaper reported Middlesbrough being interested in Hasseilbaink today. If we sign him I will eat my own shit.

[toxic rooster]

BORO CONFIRM VIDUKA CAPTURE

:love: someone who looks like he might score goals :D

http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,54-1142139,00.html
Or get himself sent off at the worst possible time

[Doink]

Local newspaper reported Middlesbrough being interested in Hasseilbaink today. If we sign him I will eat my own shit.

*i must point out that this is a legally binding contract which must be stuck to*


Hassilbaink had a medical yesterday & is in talks over a 2 year contract!

[Cactus Sid]

AND THE AWARD FOR SLOWEST STRIKE FORCE IN THE PREMIERSHIP GOES TO......

[Doink]

http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,7-1142387,00.html

boro have signed him get in. i am exsited by this forthcoming season for the first time in years, jimmy fh may be old but he was stil chelsea's top scorer last year behing forrsel.

we have 2 proven forwards now who can score goals.

SirRoundSound do you stand by your promise???????????

[Wengerland]

Chris Makin on trial here :-\

Postiga has gone back to Porto apparantely, with Spurs getting Pedro Mendes and £3 million.They're also set to sign Sean Davis from Fulham.

[Doink]

danny mills is in talks with man city and mechiot has apparently signed for birmingham.

also peter crouch has signed for southampton in a £2m deal.

[Doink]

AND THE AWARD FOR SLOWEST STRIKE FORCE IN THE PREMIERSHIP GOES TO......


bolton ??

[Oxstar]

AND THE AWARD FOR SLOWEST STRIKE FORCE IN THE PREMIERSHIP GOES TO......
One half would be Crystal Palace's Neil Shiterly i mean Shipperly

[Cactus Sid]

It was supposed to be taking the piss out of the fact that while Boro now have 2 proven goalscorers, they also have 2 players who if things don't go their way, stop playing. Poor temprament, Lack of Pace, but good goalscorers. Boro will do well if they can get some service to them in and around the box, otherwise, signing 2 very simiar strikers probably wont help them a whole hell of a lot.

[Wengerland]

2 pretty lazy players too.

[diothoir]

Godammit MMM, I hate you and Wolves. :'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

also peter crouch has signed for southampton in a £2m deal.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Rodney you twat. Oh well, we get 10% of the fee :cool:

because gay West Brom put in a bid for Lua Lua when we were trying to get Newcastle to lower their price, we had to bid to get him, so we matched West Brom and Lua Lua told them to fuck off and agreed terms with us straight away. Dickheads.

Lua Lua, Ricardo Fuller and Unsworth are all signing subject to medicals :o</font>

[Kronik]

Did you watch Lua Lua at the end of last season? He helped keep Portsmouth up and scored more then 2 league goals.

[Doink]

i heard a rumour SirRoundSound wont be on for a while as he was taken to hospital for consuming his own shit.


can anyone confirm this please?

[toxic rooster]

Did you watch Lua Lua at the end of last season? He helped keep Portsmouth up and scored more then 2 league goals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40130000/jpg/_40130765_lualua203_300.jpg

11 of 11
Leicester 3-1 Portsmouth: Lomano Lua Lua teases the Leicester fans by pointing to the Premier League badge on his shirt

[Oxstar]

I'm getting really pissed off with Crystal Palace in the transfer market, we agree a £2m deal for Tim Cahill then his agent wants £125,000 for doing fuck all and as we got Simon *I'm an arrogant cunt* Jordan as chairman he won't pay so that deal looks off, we haven't signed Gabor Kiraly he's on trail, Michael Hughes contract talks have broken down and if we lose him people will be able to walk past our midfield, Hughes is an excellent player, also we have signed Mark Hudson maybe Ian Dowie has forgot we are in the Premiership now. So I'm fucked off with it all.

[Rob]

Why should he pay an agent £125,000 though?

[Oxstar]

Why should he pay an agent £125,000 though?
Well Palace shouldn't have to pay Tim Cahill's agent, Tim Cahill should pay his own agent. But I wish Simon Jordan would pay the agent the money cause I want Tim Cahill at Palace.

[Rob Ban Fan]

Did you watch Lua Lua at the end of last season? He helped keep Portsmouth up and scored more then 2 league goals.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah and i love the guy. The 2 goals in 3 years was an exageration. He's never worth £2,000,000 though. :'(

Jordan has a point though and its good that he's making a stand. Agents are a joke.</font>

[Jacko]

AND THE AWARD FOR SLOWEST STRIKE FORCE IN THE PREMIERSHIP GOES TO......


Hasselbaink is not slow.

Shit.. yes.

Slow.. not really.

[Jacko]

BTW for a good footie form head on over to

www.xtratime.org one of the biggest in the world!

[Frank Grimes Jnr]

It looks like Bourough bare gonna be a better team next season. Now that they've finally fixed their goal scoring problem. Viduka and Haselbaink will do well at Middlesborough.
Now only if they can sign Zenden they will be set.

[yianni]

Hmmm, Viduka and JFH as a strike force? Might work...need some more pace though.

[Doink]

Hasselbaink is not slow.

Shit.. yes.

Slow.. not really.

he still top scored for chelsea last year and has been a consistant scorer in the premier league for years now.

his pace will only be a problem if we revert to the long ball game. luckily we dont do this anymore we are more about passing and just needed someone with an eye for goal to get on the end of things. hopefully we now have that person.

i will be gutted if juninho leaves, if we sell him it will be a mistake :(


also simon jordan is right not to pay the agent £125k. the agent is employed by the player so im my opinion the player is responcible for paying the agent, not the club he is signing for or leaving.

[Cactus Sid]

Gronkjear to Birmingham, Carlton Cole to Villa on Loan, Lua Lua and Unsworth sign for Portsmouth