View Full Version : *Spoiler Taker/Guerrero
Joe Kerr
06-17-2004, 07:54 PM
-It looks like The Undertaker's new alliance with Paul Heyman & The Dudley Boyz could go on longer than we thought. The WWE is seriously considering turning The Undertaker heel, so that he can be the next challenger to "Latino Heat" Eddie Guerrero's WWE Championship. If the company does decide to go with this plan, the two could headline Summerslam against each other as the main event for the Smackdown-Brand. However, once the Guerrero program is finished, there is a chance that the Undertaker could return to being a face so he can feud with Heyman & The Dudley Boyz.
VonErich Lives
06-17-2004, 08:01 PM
Did you make this up? or are you going to credit where you got this info?
Joe Kerr
06-17-2004, 08:09 PM
Bitch about it I usually post my credit I forgot once.
here- http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/index.php?id=headlines/89498419
VonErich Lives
06-17-2004, 08:11 PM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15010
twice.
It's actually not the "credit" that intrests me, it's where it's from, cause a lot of sites I discredit because they constantly post crap.
Gerard
06-17-2004, 08:13 PM
Be weird if eddie beat taker cleanly, think the wwe has already forgotton that against big show eddie hit him with everything including a frog splash when show was standing and couldn't beat him. How convincing would it be for the same move to beat mr "impervious to pain dead man". :wtf:
VonErich Lives
06-17-2004, 08:13 PM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14842
make it 3 times... so far, I could keep looking... but why bother...
:p
Joe Kerr
06-17-2004, 08:13 PM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15010
twice.
It's actually not the "credit" that intrests me, it's where it's from, cause a lot of sites I discredit because they constantly post crap.
Scroll down Credit is there
Joe Kerr
06-17-2004, 08:14 PM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14842
make it 3 times... so far, I could keep looking... but why bother...
:p
No keep looking and for all you know I was at that house show.
VonErich Lives
06-17-2004, 08:15 PM
Be weird if eddie beat taker cleanly, think the wwe has already forgotton that against big show eddie hit him with everything including a frog splash when show was standing and couldn't beat him. How convincing would it be for the same move to beat mr "impervious to pain dead man". :wtf:
This is the WWE we're talking about right? :D :lol:
I just hope Taker puts him over, I don't want to see a deadman title reign right now...
Problem is, who is their for Eddie to Feud with?
Only Heel I could see a good program w/ would be Booker T.
or maybe turn RVD Heel or since Eddie is the "Anti-Face" you could do a face v. face w/ RVD...
VonErich Lives
06-17-2004, 08:17 PM
Scroll down Credit is there
Nice Edit.
:D
No keep looking and for all you know I was at that house show.
Nice Try.
:D
Joe Kerr
06-17-2004, 08:21 PM
Nice Edit. :D
right....edit....Its not my fault you skim shit and then post crap that has nothing to do with the tpic...Had i edit it would have said last edited on ...Blah blah blah...Just admit you were wrong and get back on topic. :yes:
VonErich Lives
06-17-2004, 08:22 PM
right....edit....Its not my fault you skim shit and then post crap that has nothing to do with the tpic...Had i edit it would have said last edited on ...Blah blah blah...Just admit you were wrong and get back on topic. :yes:
Your buttons are still waaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to push.
I bet if I keep this up for a few days I can get you to flip out and get banned again... :p
Joe Kerr
06-17-2004, 08:26 PM
man who pissed in your cheerios? Keep it up all you want its really just showing your immaturity as a child anyways.
The Duck
06-17-2004, 08:31 PM
Chill out man seriously.
& I hope they go with that plan on Smackdown.
ilt_undertaker
06-17-2004, 08:34 PM
Um, I just want Taker to have the title again.
VonErich Lives
06-18-2004, 03:57 AM
man who pissed in your cheerios? Keep it up all you want its really just showing your immaturity as a child anyways.
LMFAO... see, here ya go... (pushes a few more buttons, sits back and waits).
:D at this thread.
Let Undertaker be a heel, his gimmick is fitted to be one.
Also, RVD vs Guerrero = :D :love: :y:
Kane Knight
06-18-2004, 04:02 AM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14842
make it 3 times... so far, I could keep looking... but why bother...
:p
Wow. VEL finally learns how to do research, and he pisses it away on proving Joey Radd misses sources. :lol:
Kane Knight
06-18-2004, 04:03 AM
By the way, I'm going to go prove the earth is round. :p
Kane Knight
06-18-2004, 04:07 AM
:nono:
blake639raw
06-18-2004, 11:03 AM
Actually, regardless of people saying that Taker can't be a heel, I don't care. Eddie NEEDS a feud with a big name to re establish himself. This shit with JBL has been bad for Eddie. As much as I like RVD and Booker, I don't think they are big enough stars for Eddie right now. At this point, I think Eddie should feud with either Taker, or maybe HBK if he comes over.
big_bluto
06-18-2004, 11:11 AM
Actually, regardless of people saying that Taker can't be a heel, I don't care. Eddie NEEDS a feud with a big name to re establish himself. This shit with JBL has been bad for Eddie. As much as I like RVD and Booker, I don't think they are big enough stars for Eddie right now. At this point, I think Eddie should feud with either Taker, or maybe HBK if he comes over.
I get where you're coming from on this, and I agree that Eddie needs to re-establish himself.
This takes nothing away from the fantastic job he did against JBL, as he carried that on his own, but it's people's perceptions that need lifted.
There are 2 ways this can be done.
1. Feud with an established main-evented
2. Feud with someone to an incredible standard.
Option 1 is what you suggested earlier, but after Eddie feuds with Taker, then there's nowhere left to go.
I would be inclined to go with Option 2 with the RVD Feud.
I posted extensively on this in an earlier thread and here's what I said:
The idea of RVD turning heel is mouth-watering stuff, but we always run the risk of WWE watering it down.
I'd love to see a rerun of the matches that Eddie and RVD had a few years back, but I'd also like to see Angle involved in it somehow.
If Angle can wrestle or not is irrelevant. That guy is golden on the mic and can use that to get them both over even more.
Here's how I would love to see it start:
RVD and Eddie are still faces and are having a feud over who has the best frogsplash - spectacular matches, great fun.
As a sideline to this, Eddie and RVD are competing all over the place, every opportunity. Basically in the sideline they are trying to out-do each other in every way, including playing practical jokes on other wrestlers in the locker-room. Basically this goes on for a while, much hilarity ensues, and lifts the 'face' image of both.
Angle calls them both into his office, gives them a bollocking for turning Torrie green or something, and then they both start competing to get Angle with practical jokes, and all the while, they have absolute stand-out matches.
Winner helps the loser to his feet, handshakes after matches, etc, two great faces showing friendship and respect for each other.
Angle keeps getting punk'd by them and the viewing would be fantastic! It would totally lift Smackdown, and Angle would add so much comedy to Eddie and RVD and elevate the status of RVD back to as high as he has ever been.
Then the twist.....
Eddie & RVD do something that really pisses Angle off, so he puts them into a steel cage match.
Eddie & RVD go at it, and just when it looks like Eddie is gonna win, the Dudleys jump out, batter the crap out of him, and 'HEEL' RVD strolls out of the cage with the title.
The fans would be going ballistic, because RVD has turned at the height of his popularity and turned his back on Eddie and the fans.
This is when RVD is the Whole F'n Show!
This is when RVD just oozes arrogance, cockiness, and shows it too!
Plus it might even make Smackdown a watchable show for a while!
That's what I want to see for the next title challenger after the GAB, assuming that they don't give the belt to Bradshit.
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14240&highlight=smackdown
Joe Kerr
06-18-2004, 11:46 AM
Wow. VEL finally learns how to do research, and he pisses it away on proving Joey Radd misses sources. :lol:
yeah but he botched that up when he didnt read the whole post of one of the "missed sources" and a link was posted on the bottom :lol:
Vel reminds me of george castansa where he was a telephone tough guy only vel is a internet tough guy
Corkscrewed
06-18-2004, 12:21 PM
I marked out when Taker went heelish at the end last night. It was a reluctant heel, but awesome nonetheless. At least it's not Mordecai feuding with Eddie, as was suggested by that promo... that would have been the worst thing they could have done, since Mordecai has only been around for a month and a half?
I wouldn't mind an Eddie/Taker feud. It'd bring some legitimacy to the main event, and if they're smart, during that time they'll push Cena, Booker, and/or RVD into the main event.
Since 'Taker is already taking on the Dudleyz in the Great American Bash, I wouldn't want another repeat when The Undertaker "frees himself" from Paul Heyman. If he turns heel, I'm hoping for a Ministry Undertaker, with the look and everything. It's wishful thinking, but who knows?
If 'Taker takes on Eddie, Eddie has to win, or he'll leave the impression that he was just a champion of circumstances. He proved he could cheat and still come off as a believable main eventer when he took on Kurt Angle at Wrestlemania XX (my favorite match of the event), so he could cheat over The Undertaker and keep both his title and his status. Sooner or later some big shot from RAW has to jump ship to SD! though, or the title itself will lose credibility.
Kane Knight
06-18-2004, 04:41 PM
yeah but he botched that up when he didnt read the whole post of one of the "missed sources" and a link was posted on the bottom :lol:
Vel reminds me of george castansa where he was a telephone tough guy only vel is a internet tough guy
Replace tough guy with "joke" and you're right.
jasonvoorhees
06-18-2004, 09:39 PM
What about Mordecai, Spoilers I THINK
HE said he was going to do something to the guy that lie, cheat and steals, so that means their going to have their little feud.
FourFifty
06-19-2004, 12:04 AM
Isn't the Earth square?
<font color=cyan>No, but some of the people are :p
Now this should go in the video game section... but in spreaking of the Earth being Square...
In FFVI (Final Fantasy 6, or three, pending on how you count) when you're getting the second air ship in the tomb you'll find a room with four headstones. Anywho, here are the selections you make at them.
ERAU QSSI HTRA EEHT
Spell it backwards, and edit the spaces...
The Earth Is Square.
Apocolyptik1
06-19-2004, 01:04 AM
<font color=cyan>No, but some of the people are :p
Now this should go in the video game section... but in spreaking of the Earth being Square...
In FFVI (Final Fantasy 6, or three, pending on how you count) when you're getting the second air ship in the tomb you'll find a room with four headstones. Anywho, here are the selections you make at them.
ERAU QSSI HTRA EEHT
Spell it backwards, and edit the spaces...
The Earth Is Square.
And then you get the experience egg.
Kane Knight
06-19-2004, 01:07 AM
mmmmm...eggsperience...
Joe Kerr
06-19-2004, 01:58 AM
What about Mordecai, Spoilers I THINK
HE said he was going to do something to the guy that lie, cheat and steals, so that means their going to have their little feud.
Correct. Im not sure why the spoiler didnt come through. My guess it was either forgotten or it wasnt shown at the arena.
Kane Knight
06-19-2004, 02:09 AM
Correct. Im not sure why the spoiler didnt come through. My guess it was either forgotten or it wasnt shown at the arena.
From the sound of things, it was the latter.
Anyway, it's very possible that this is a swerve, but there is a very obvious candidate in Eddie Gurrerro as his first sinner.
Granted, many of the champs are less than scrupulous, but still. they chose lines from Eddy's own gimmick. that'd be like saying that the dead would rise and bvringing out a cowboy. :shifty:
<font color=cyan>No, but some of the people are :p
Now this should go in the video game section... but in spreaking of the Earth being Square...
In FFVI (Final Fantasy 6, or three, pending on how you count) when you're getting the second air ship in the tomb you'll find a room with four headstones. Anywho, here are the selections you make at them.
ERAU QSSI HTRA EEHT
Spell it backwards, and edit the spaces...
The Earth Is Square.
:eek:
<font color=cyan>No, but some of the people are :p
Now this should go in the video game section... but in spreaking of the Earth being Square...
In FFVI (Final Fantasy 6, or three, pending on how you count) when you're getting the second air ship in the tomb you'll find a room with four headstones. Anywho, here are the selections you make at them.
ERAU QSSI HTRA EEHT
Spell it backwards, and edit the spaces...
The Earth Is Square.
*Marks out for any Final Fantasy game*
:love:
What about Mordecai, Spoilers I THINK
HE said he was going to do something to the guy that lie, cheat and steals, so that means their going to have their little feud.
Does anyone have a link to that promo? I think they showed it when I fell asleep, and it also caused me to miss Luther Rains' debut :mad:
Kane Knight
06-19-2004, 02:03 PM
You lucky bastard. :mad:
LOL
What was Luther like? Just another hoss? Any nice moves?
Kane Knight
06-19-2004, 02:38 PM
The match didn't last very long. It's hard to judge, because it could have been any squash match.
VonErich Lives
06-21-2004, 07:58 PM
Vel reminds me of george castansa where he was a telephone tough guy only vel is a internet tough guy
Wait, your the same person who was having major hissy fits all over the forums and threating people and telling them how you'd kick their butt and everything? and I'm the "internet tough guy"???
that's funny...
oh wait, you gave me a negative rep... oh... no... not that... please... please stop... I can't take anymore... your just so big and bad and...
sorry, laughing to hard to keep typing!
Joe Kerr
06-21-2004, 08:22 PM
Way to bitch about a thread that has hit page 2,like 4 days ago :y:
VonErich Lives
06-21-2004, 08:32 PM
Way to bitch about a thread that has hit page 2,like 4 days ago :y:
cpu was down for a few days... and who'se the one bitching here? your just the one avoiding the facts.
The CyNick
06-21-2004, 08:39 PM
The problem with feuding Eddie with Taker is that Taker, especially with the Deadman gimmick doesn't sell enough. So what you would have would be Eddie selling and selling and then selling some more. Taker may end up doing the JOB, but the feud would be set up to tell a story with Taker not to make Eddie look superior to Taker. Sow ith that in mind, they are better off keeping Eddie as far away from Taker as they possibly can.
VonErich Lives
06-21-2004, 08:52 PM
The problem with feuding Eddie with Taker is that Taker, especially with the Deadman gimmick doesn't sell enough. So what you would have would be Eddie selling and selling and then selling some more. Taker may end up doing the JOB, but the feud would be set up to tell a story with Taker not to make Eddie look superior to Taker. Sow ith that in mind, they are better off keeping Eddie as far away from Taker as they possibly can.
If Angle doesn't come back? who else can they feud him w/?
JBL can only last so long.
Maybe Booker T?
The CyNick
06-21-2004, 09:45 PM
If Angle doesn't come back? who else can they feud him w/?
JBL can only last so long.
Maybe Booker T?
RVD to me is the best option outside of Angle. Big Show would also be an option when he comes back.
Like the Cynick says RVD is the best option after JBL if Angle doesn't come back all though it looks like he will. But then again if we go by the WWE logic an undeserving wrestler that hasn't and never will draw will get a title shot. So maybe A-Train will be put back on Smackdown and get a title shot like Hardcore and Bradshaw :nono: .
Anyway if the WWE are smart, then either RVD or Booker T will be the next guy put into the main event scene.
VonErich Lives
06-22-2004, 05:41 PM
RVD to me is the best option outside of Angle. Big Show would also be an option when he comes back.
RVD has great moves and would work great w/ Eddie, but can he really carry a main event? I mean, they tried it w/ him briefly on Raw...
The question is also, would it be face v. face? or are they going to flip RVD?
Personally, I'd like to see Booker T win the belt and have a short run, where there's talk he may retire soon... I'd like to see him carry the belt 1 more time... 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time! or wait... Raw has the old "WWF Belt" and Raw has the old "WCW Belt"..
So, I guess it would be 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time! + 1! :D
Corkscrewed
06-22-2004, 08:54 PM
If they're smart, they'll actually have Taker do something that leads to Bearer being buried alive and killed off. With Taker's conscious "suffocated and dead," Taker would have no conscience and thus become this really destructive psycho killing machine who does whatever he wants. He'd maybe follow Heyman for a while because it suits his wants as well, but then one day he destroys him or something.
I dunno... I just like the sound of a rampaging Undertaker, tho that wouldn't work too well w/ Eddie. :-\
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