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jindrak
06-26-2004, 09:18 PM
I've decided to go on a terse hiatus from posting in casual. Right now, I'm looking at the wrestling threads and there is so much I can discuss, but don't feel motivated enough to argue my points...until now.

If you wish, discuss a smark topic with me. The main reason I became a member of TPWW was because no one I know appreciates the aspects of pro-wrestling like I do. All my friends discontinued watching pro-wrestling after 2000, and I've typically kept my thoughts concerings the state of wrestling to myself.

Anyways, like the title says- Discuss a wrestlign topic that you would probably want to argue with me.

Some examples may include- ratings, gimmicks, pushes, storylines, wrestlers, past/present/future, and whatever else comes to mind.

Loose Cannon
06-26-2004, 09:24 PM
Why don't you write something up, like most of us, so we have something to discuss instead of telling us to come up with something to discuss.

Savio
06-26-2004, 09:25 PM
Is it "stand back" or "stay in the back"?

DMI
06-26-2004, 09:27 PM
Is it "stand back" or "stay in the back"?
LOL

Edge
06-26-2004, 10:05 PM
What dose Lita insult more, you're intelligence or you're eyes?

Xero
06-26-2004, 10:09 PM
Is it "stand back" or "stay in the back"?
:lol:

DaveWadding
06-26-2004, 10:15 PM
Jindrak, you insult my intelligence. That is all.

BTW, I bet you would have sex with Moolah and Mae, as they are "MILFs"

Oxstar
06-26-2004, 10:26 PM
What dose Lita insult more, you're intelligence or you're eyes?
Fucking both that bitch has no idea of how to throw a punch

Oxstar
06-26-2004, 10:27 PM
Jindrak, you insult my intelligence. That is all.

BTW, I bet you would have sex with Moolah and Mae, as they are "MILFs"
That's taking the milf thing too far, well Jindrak would you?

91
06-26-2004, 10:43 PM
Is it "stand back" or "stay in the back"?

The only way it's the former is if Hurricane pronounces stand as "stainda".

What dose Lita insult more, you're intelligence or you're eyes?

What? Lita's damned attractive, she's in my top five.

Edge
06-26-2004, 10:48 PM
What? Lita's damned attractive, she's in my top five.

When I say, "Dose Lita insult you're eyes, I'm talking about her "wrestleing skills."

The Forgotten One
06-26-2004, 10:54 PM
Is it "stand back" or "stay in the back"?

WTF is it anyway.

Cause I just sent an e-mail to his site asking WTF it was.

jindrak
06-26-2004, 11:02 PM
What dose Lita insult more, you're intelligence or you're eyes?

Well, its obviously Lita isn't much of the actor.
To answer your question, she insults my intelligence more. This may be hard to believe, but I don't find Lita to be attrctive, especially since she did that hairstyle with her bangs.

Anyways, this pregnancy angle is going the same direction as the Katie Vick saga, and thats down the tubes within a few weeks. What will the pregnancy angle accomplish? I mean what LONG term goals do the WWE writers have in mind?! Matt will likely feud with Kane, get squashed, and things will go back to the same old, same old.

Kane is the only character who can draw up these wacky storylines the writers come up wiith. Lets not forget that Kane's character debuted as something along the lines of a soap opera/comic book character.
Within the last year, fans have been exposed to the psychological elements, the more human elements of Kanes character, so it is interesting to see where they are going with this current angle. I doubt it will be anything worthwhile though.

HOWEVER...wtf will a pregnancy angle do for either Lita, Hardy, or Kane?...sadly that is nothing. At least the Katie Vick angle had drama. Kane was accussed of murder, and at that time he was a face, so obviously the angle was used to portray him in a sympathetic light.

An interesting question would be if the Katie Vick angle was done now, instead of last year. Just something to think about for another post. Or could Katie Vick rise from the dead again? (the angle that is)

The Naitch
06-26-2004, 11:03 PM
DISCUSSION: What does JINDRAK the wrestler and JINDRAK the poster have in common?

The Naitch
06-26-2004, 11:06 PM
Is it "stand back" or "stay in the back"?

The REAL question is, after "Stand back"....

Is it "There's a Hurricane coming through!" or "There's a Hamburglar coming through!"

91
06-26-2004, 11:06 PM
DISCUSSION: What does JINDRAK the wrestler and JINDRAK the poster have in common?

Their name. BA-DOOM, I'm here all night.

91
06-26-2004, 11:07 PM
When I say, "Dose Lita insult you're eyes, I'm talking about her "wrestleing skills."

I knew that. :shifty:

jindrak
06-26-2004, 11:10 PM
That's taking the milf thing too far, well Jindrak would you?

HELL FUCKING NO...This isn't meant to be a casual thread, so I would like it to stay more along the lines of a wrestling discussion.

Anyways, now that it is brought up. Sable=MILF, Terri=MILF...Those are definately two divas I would :love: to bang.

My top 5 hottest divas list-
1) Sable- As a 12 year old kid, I remember getting a hard on to Sable. Heck, even at 19, I still do. :)

2) Gail Kim- I'm into asian chicks, so needless to say, I think she is amazing.

3) Stacy Keibler- Thank goodness she didn't get the boob job. She has that sweet face, HOT legs, and nice body. Would definately love to see her do those dances she used to do in WCW.

4) Debra- She kind of had the hot older mature thing going for her. I believe she is currently 40+, and still looks amazing. I want PUPPIES!!!

5) Kimberly (Nitro Girl)- She looks like one of my favorite porn stars, Angelica Sin, so therefore she makes the list.

DaveWadding
06-26-2004, 11:30 PM
So Moolah and Mae are your hidden fantasies?

Edge
06-26-2004, 11:37 PM
Well, its obviously Lita isn't much of the actor.
To answer your question, she insults my intelligence more. This may be hard to believe, but I don't find Lita to be attrctive, especially since she did that hairstyle with her bangs.

Anyways, this pregnancy angle is going the same direction as the Katie Vick saga, and thats down the tubes within a few weeks. What will the pregnancy angle accomplish? I mean what LONG term goals do the WWE writers have in mind?! Matt will likely feud with Kane, get squashed, and things will go back to the same old, same old.

Kane is the only character who can draw up these wacky storylines the writers come up wiith. Lets not forget that Kane's character debuted as something along the lines of a soap opera/comic book character.
Within the last year, fans have been exposed to the psychological elements, the more human elements of Kanes character, so it is interesting to see where they are going with this current angle. I doubt it will be anything worthwhile though.

HOWEVER...wtf will a pregnancy angle do for either Lita, Hardy, or Kane?...sadly that is nothing. At least the Katie Vick angle had drama. Kane was accussed of murder, and at that time he was a face, so obviously the angle was used to portray him in a sympathetic light.

An interesting question would be if the Katie Vick angle was done now, instead of last year. Just something to think about for another post. Or could Katie Vick rise from the dead again? (the angle that is)

Jesus, I asked you a simple question, not a 30 minute cooking tip.

The Naitch
06-26-2004, 11:39 PM
Jindrak sure loves his wrestling

Edge
06-26-2004, 11:40 PM
Jindrak sure loves his wrestling

And those life time story novel's.

jindrak
06-26-2004, 11:47 PM
Well, wrestling, the booking aspect of it, is something I am anamored over. Believe it or not, when I was 14 I wanted to be the head writer creating all the storylines a la Vinnie Ru.

jindrak
06-26-2004, 11:48 PM
And those life time story novel's.

Well, at least over here I won't be bashed by posters. :lol:

DaveWadding
06-26-2004, 11:50 PM
Well, at least over here I won't be bashed by posters. :lol:
Yes you will, I have made it my life's mission to make your life a living hell.

Edge
06-26-2004, 11:51 PM
Well, at least over here I won't be bashed by posters. :lol:

What are you implying?

jindrak
06-26-2004, 11:51 PM
Also, when I was 10 and got my first set of wrestling figures, I would create angles and storylines. Needless to say, its just a huge part of me.

FYI- The action figures I had at the time were the following- Brutus "the Barber" Beefcake, Ted DiBiase, Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, and some others I am forgetting.

jindrak
06-26-2004, 11:54 PM
What are you implying?

This is what I am implying- In the wrestling forum, we can have arguments where we disagree, or don't hold the same view. However, the disagreement won't cause you to type out insults that are normally reserved for casual. Get it?

Edge
06-26-2004, 11:54 PM
Also, when I was 10 and got my first set of wrestling figures, I would create angles and storylines. Needless to say, its just a huge part of me.

FYI- The action figures I had at the time were the following- Brutus "the Barber" Beefcake, Ted DiBiase, Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, and some others I am forgetting.

Tell me jindrak, what happened in the summer of 1963?

Edge
06-26-2004, 11:56 PM
This is what I am implying- In the wrestling forum, we can have arguments where we disagree, or don't hold the same view. However, the disagreement won't cause you to type out insults that are normally reserved for casual. Get it?

I'll have you know that I got half of my rep's typing up those insults.

Splaya
06-27-2004, 12:07 AM
DISCUSSION: What does JINDRAK the wrestler and JINDRAK the poster have in common?


They are both jobbers :shifty:

jindrak
06-27-2004, 12:19 AM
They are both jobbers :shifty:

Actually, Jindrak as a tag team with o'Haire, had *HUGE* potential.

Think back to the athleticism they diplayed as part of the Natural Born Thrillaz(or was it an s?)...its probably coming back to you now. Along with Mike Sanders on the mic, who Flair acknowledged as amazing on the mic, the NBT couldv'e saved the waning old WCW.

Think about it--->Jindrak, O'Haire, Sanders, Reno, and Stasiak were all YOUNG wrestlers, who had POTENTIAL, to develop into MAIN EVENTERS. Well, maybe not Stasiak, but definately the others.

In WCW, the NBT weren't treated as jobbers. NO. They were showcased as the FUTURE of WCW, products of the WCW Powerplant who would lead WCW against the WWE. TNBT has time to develop their skills, and even as a 'green' stable, they were great to watch. When watching the NBT, fans really felt they were seeing something special.

Its a shame that the careers of the NBT members have all dwindled into low card obscurity. :nono: A great what if question. Unfortunately, as in life, what if questions come with no real answer.

Mr. Nerfect
06-27-2004, 12:55 AM
Actually, Jindrak as a tag team with o'Haire, had *HUGE* potential.

Think back to the athleticism they diplayed as part of the Natural Born Thrillaz(or was it an s?)...its probably coming back to you now. Along with Mike Sanders on the mic, who Flair acknowledged as amazing on the mic, the NBT couldv'e saved the waning old WCW.

Think about it--->Jindrak, O'Haire, Sanders, Reno, and Stasiak were all YOUNG wrestlers, who had POTENTIAL, to develop into MAIN EVENTERS. Well, maybe not Stasiak, but definately the others.

In WCW, the NBT weren't treated as jobbers. NO. They were showcased as the FUTURE of WCW, products of the WCW Powerplant who would lead WCW against the WWE. TNBT has time to develop their skills, and even as a 'green' stable, they were great to watch. When watching the NBT, fans really felt they were seeing something special.

Its a shame that the careers of the NBT members have all dwindled into low card obscurity. :nono: A great what if question. Unfortunately, as in life, what if questions come with no real answer.

The Natural Born Thrillers had potential, as does Jindrak, but unfortunately that doesn't determine who is a jobber or not. Jindrak has been picking up so snug wins on Velocity, though (until Hardcore Holly came along). :y:

James Steele
06-27-2004, 01:22 AM
I hope Mordecai doesn't work too stiff tomorrow night :shifty:

tucsonspeed6
06-27-2004, 10:07 AM
They are both jobbers :shifty:



Did somebody say Jobber?

That's my cue!

*tucsonspeed6 stands up as the lights dim. A single spotlight shines on him from above. He walks forward slowly with a cautious look upon his face. Before him standing on the floor is a tiny 6" tall brett hart figurine. Tucsonspeed6 reaches down and takes the tiny man in his hands and with a deep breath, sniffs the air around the toy.*

I knew it! This action figure smells like poop!

Hmm....

HankScorpio
06-27-2004, 12:11 PM
^^
Jobber (/Jobber) :shifty:

The Naitch
06-27-2004, 02:28 PM
what is this jWo shit?

Ferocious
06-27-2004, 04:06 PM
When I say, "Dose Lita insult you're eyes, I'm talking about her "wrestleing skills."
You do not have the correct qualifications to discuss this, please move to the testing forum.

Ferocious
06-27-2004, 04:11 PM
what is this jWo shit?
Jobber World Order, Crap joke that got old very quick but the 'actual' jobbers in the group seem to enjoy it, However the three 'Non Jobbers' Are carrying it on to humour them.

XL
06-27-2004, 04:28 PM
On the wrestling side of thngs again....
i got a feeling that a certain someone might cause someone else to have a miscarriage.

makes sense kinda, push Kane's psycho-heel side a little bit more and the WWE dont have to come through with a conclusion to the baby. As i'm guessing that Lita isn't pregnant outside of the angle.

And hey it's nice that someone wants to talk wrestling...you know...in the WRESTLING FORUM

jindrak
06-27-2004, 04:34 PM
I definately prefer the psycopath Kane over the sympathetic burn victim Kane.

Thoughts?

Ferocious
06-27-2004, 04:51 PM
Agreed ^

LK
06-27-2004, 05:39 PM
Crazy Kane is definetly better than emotional Kane.

jindrak
06-27-2004, 05:51 PM
Emotional Kane could play out huge, only if Kane's character doesn't act such a fucking pussy (i.e X-pac angle, Chyna angle, Triple H feud).

However, with the mask gone, WWE dropped the ball on capitalizing on a psychological angle that wouldv'e been trend-setting and definately interesting.

Here is a thread I did awhile ago pertaining to the Kane character. Kane's unmasking. (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15303)

Ferocious
06-27-2004, 05:53 PM
Emotional Kane could play out huge, only if Kane's character doesn't act such a fucking pussy (i.e X-pac angle, Chyna angle, Triple H feud).

However, with the mask gone, WWE dropped the ball on capitalizing on a psychological angle that wouldv'e been trend-setting and definately interesting.

Here is a thread I did awhile ago pertaining to the Kane character.Kane's unmasking (http://www.tpww.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=430692)
I remember reading that thread linked in the above post........................It seemed just as shitty then.

jindrak
06-27-2004, 05:55 PM
^^I accidentally put up the wrong link. Needless to say, I fixed it.

LK
06-27-2004, 06:04 PM
What makes the way that Kane has been misused so much is the way that the character was initially portrayed. After he lost the mask he became crazy and would just destroy anyone that got in his path. It was great when that was happening and made Raw more interesting for those few months.

jindrak
06-27-2004, 06:36 PM
^^Adding to your point, it also left each Raw with a cliffhanger and a REASON to watch next week.

wrestlingking
06-27-2004, 07:50 PM
it's kind of sad when you look at how great the Kane angle did last year this time and at the same time this year it's this awaful pregnacy angle. WWE has screwed up so bad with this angle they are not even sure how to end it. What do you ppl think I got my own idea.

Lita finds out it is Matt's baby. Kane is furious and chokeslams Lita causing the baby not to make it. Matt is furious at Kane and sympatheic towards Lita and they get back together. Hardy Vs Kane at Vengeance and then this story is never spoken of again.

Edge
06-28-2004, 12:52 AM
You do not have the correct qualifications to discuss this, please move to the testing forum.

I'm allowed to what I want. Now go play with you're dolls.

Edge
06-28-2004, 12:56 AM
what is this jWo shit?

A bunch of jobbers that play with dolls and think their "cool."

Londoner
06-28-2004, 02:34 AM
it's kind of sad when you look at how great the Kane angle did last year this time and at the same time this year it's this awaful pregnacy angle. WWE has screwed up so bad with this angle they are not even sure how to end it. What do you ppl think I got my own idea.

Lita finds out it is Matt's baby. Kane is furious and chokeslams Lita causing the baby not to make it. Matt is furious at Kane and sympatheic towards Lita and they get back together. Hardy Vs Kane at Vengeance and then this story is never spoken of again.

No because why would Kane give a fuck about who's baby it is?I hope he chokeslams lita and kills her 'baby' and beats Matt anyway. That way we can forget about this angle in a few months :)