And the World has stopped

[Loose Cannon]

Orton has lost his belt. Can we please have a moment of silence and remember the past 7 months. These months will not be forgotten. Thank you Mr. Orton :'( :'( :'( :'(

[Shadow]

CEEEEEELABRATE GOOD TIMES COME ON!

Finnally they got that belt off of him. Now he can finnally go after the World title. Took him long enough to drop it as well.

[RemyRed]

It's funny how a guy can retain in every PPV except for the one where they base a promotional poster off of you. :(

[James Steele]

Orton had his push, now stick his ass on heat for eternity!! :shifty:

[The CyNick]

Horrible move IMO.

[Heyman]

Horrible move IMO.


Agreed.

Nothing more to add here.

[Transplant]

Orton had his push, now stick his ass on heat for eternity!!

[Loose Cannon]

FK'N EDGE. FK'N BOOKING. FK'N WWE. NO FK'N RKO

[Zen v.W.o.]

...

Good. Screw randy. Put every belt on a canadian and you've got a good product.

Orton does shame to his family legacy.

[The CyNick]

Its really dumb because its not like he's going to get the World Title anytime soon (wont be till Mania).

He could have continued to get wins on guys like Edge (they could ahve made it a cheap win, to keep Edge's heat for HHH), Jericho and Benoit after he drops the World Title.

Only good that come of it is if Orton gets it back next month in say a Ladder Match. But then if they go in that direction, why even take the title off him in the first place?

[Savio]

Every belt is held by a Canadian!!!!:mad:

[The One]

:( Damn shame :(

I have no problem with people I like dropping titles, but people I like droping titles to wrestler's who are moderatly over = :n:.

Here's hoping Randy gets something good out of this...I would hope for Randy to go over Hunter coming up, but if I did that I might as well hope for the forecast tomorrow to be "Cloudy with a 99% chance of raining money."

[I-Hate-You]

I hope I don't pick up a paper or turn on the tv tommorrow and see a man went on a shooting spree because Randy Orton lost the IC title.

[Savio]

You won't have to wait, its on CNN now.
-----------
Trish canadian
Tag Champs canadian
Edge Canadian
Benoit Canadian

[Stickman]

So why did Edge get the belt? Since when did he stop sucking?

[The CyNick]

Every belt is held by a Canadian!!!!:mad:

Rob Conway is still America's glimmer of hope on RAW

[The One]

http://armageddon.wwe.com/matches/gallery/images/12.jpg

On December 14, 2003...a young man by the name of Randy Orton got the one up on then Champion Rob Van Dam to capture not only the Title, but also our imaginations. He gave way to a promising new future for the number one wrestling company in the world, and gave all fans a frash new era to live through. Randy Orton went on to hold that very same Intercontinental Championship for an incredible 209 days. He was wrongfully robbed of the oportunity to give to the belt, what he had given to the fans. We take this time to honor Randy Orton and his wonderful contributions to the Intercontinental Championship...and indeed the entire world of wrestling.

[RemyRed]

Did Randy rush in when Evolution came down to jump Benoit? I missed that part.

[Loose Cannon]

http://armageddon.wwe.com/matches/gallery/images/12.jpg

On December 14, 2003...a young man by the name of Randy Orton got the one up on then Champion Rob Van Dam to capture not only the Title, but also our imaginations. He gave way to a promising new future for the number one wrestling company in the world, and gave all fans a frash new era to live through. Randy Orton went on to hold that very same Intercontinental Championship for an incredible 209 days. He was wrongfully robbed of the oportunity to give to the belt, what he had given to the fans. We take this time to honor Randy Orton and his wonderful contributions to the Intercontinental Championship...and indeed the entire world of wrestling.

that was great man :'(

[Savio]

Rob Conway is still America's glimmer of hope on RAW
WWE made him move to canada.

[Shaggy]

It was funny in my house. I was sitting in my room watching the ppv and when Orton got pinned I screamed out "NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and put my hands over my face. My dad and stepmom ran in thinking something bad happened to me. They came in and asked what happened and my little brother had to tell them that Orton lost.

It was a very sad moment tonight when he lost. He even had the crowd behind him for most of the match.

[Nowhere Man]

Ha! Now back to the midcard with you! :wave:

[Loose Cannon]

It was funny in my house. I was sitting in my room watching the ppv and when Orton got pinned I screamed out "NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and put my hands over my face. My dad and stepmom ran in thinking something bad happened to me. They came in and asked what happened and my little brother had to tell them that Orton lost.

It was a very sad moment tonight when he lost. He even had the crowd behind him for most of the match.

:rofl:

[Loose Cannon]

Ha! Now back to the midcard with you! :wave:

lol, look at this guy and the grin on his face.

[I-Hate-You]

You won't have to wait, its on CNN now.
-----------
Trish canadian
Tag Champs canadian
Edge Canadian
Benoit Canadian
:-\

[MVP]

This title change makes no sense to me.

If Edge is going to be feuding with Triple H then they'll probably have a match at Summerslam. Am I wrong? And Triple H will never go for a midcard title again.

It leaves the door open for Randy to get a World Title shot, but after losing tonight it wouldn't make sense to push Randy into the main event just yet.

Don't know....

[Lara Emily]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Tool]

You won't have to wait, its on CNN now.
-----------
Trish canadian
Tag Champs canadian
Edge Canadian
Benoit Canadian



La resistance are an american and a frog. That is only like 10-20% Canadian.

[V]

No RKO in the last 2 RAw paperivews.. grrrr

this is complete bull-fucking-shit

[James Steele]

Well look at it like this:

The Screwjob 2004 is coming up in about... hmmm... 4 months!

[Lara Emily]

BEST NEWS EVER

[Nowhere Man]

lol, look at this guy and the grin on his face.

Oh, you know it! :D

Seriously, though, as much as I love to rag on Orton, he was a good I-C Champ. However, it was high time he dropped the title (though I would have waited till Summerslam, and given it to Jericho)

[Mr. Nerfect]

La resistance are an american and a frog. That is only like 10-20% Canadian.

Rob Conway is American, and Sylvain Grenier is Canadian. BTW, you could of at least called him French.

[Blue Demon]

WOOOOO!

[The Tool]

Rob Conway is American, and Sylvain Grenier is Canadian. BTW, you could of at least called him French.


I thought you said he is Canadian. Why would I call him French?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Leading into Vengeance I was thinking "Randy should retain.", but now the PPV is over I'm thinking "Maybe it wasn't such a bad move.".

Edge is a credible threat to Evoluiton, and I think he could do more with the title than Orton. I would have pissed myself to see Orton run out during the part of the main event when Evolution (save Orton) and Eugene poured out to interfere, and RKO Triple H while Benoit is standing in position for one. Benoit would then cover, and Orton would rejoin Evolution on RAW when Triple H apoligizes for not being there for Orton.

I'm expecting either some kind of rematch or an Edge vs. Benoit match, just like the Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan one at WrestleMania VI (I think). Who knows? Maybe the WWe is planning a Canadian Holocaust of RAW?

[Transplant]

Didnt Vinnie Mac make Benoit change his hometown? I mean, if your gonna refer to Conway as "Canadian" (even though its only in his Tag Team gimmick), you've gotta say something about benoit

[Splaya]

Leading into Vengeance I was thinking "Randy should retain.", but now the PPV is over I'm thinking "Maybe it wasn't such a bad move.".

Edge is a credible threat to Evoluiton, and I think he could do more with the title than Orton. I would have pissed myself to see Orton run out during the part of the main event when Evolution (save Orton) and Eugene poured out to interfere, and RKO Triple H while Benoit is standing in position for one. Benoit would then cover, and Orton would rejoin Evolution on RAW when Triple H apoligizes for not being there for Orton.

I'm expecting either some kind of rematch or an Edge vs. Benoit match, just like the Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan one at WrestleMania VI (I think). Who knows? Maybe the WWe is planning a Canadian Holocaust of RAW?

I think (actually hope) the WWE gives HHH a rematch tommorow night on RAW. Then during the main event HHH gets RKO'ed by Orton and loses. Then the breakup occurs and we see HHH vs Orton at SS.

[Loose Cannon]

I think (actually hope) the WWE gives HHH a rematch tommorow night on RAW. Then during the main event HHH gets RKO'ed by Orton and loses. Then the breakup occurs and we see HHH vs Orton at SS.

Nah, it's going to be a slow turn. Innovater just told me that Evolution, minus Orton, came out to help HHH in is match. So, it's pretty obvious HHH is going to be pissed at Orton for not being there. Well, I hope they do that. Shoud be fairly intersting. I say HHH and Orton have their match at Mania 21

[Savio]

This title change makes no sense to me.

If Edge is going to be feuding with Triple H then they'll probably have a match at Summerslam. Am I wrong? And Triple H will never go for a midcard title again.
Edge vs batista.
Nah, it's going to be a slow turn. Innovater just told me that Evolution, minus Orton, came out to help HHH in is match. So, it's pretty obvious HHH is going to be pissed at Orton for not being there. Well, I hope they do that. Shoud be fairly intersting. I say HHH and Orton have their match at Mania 21
Spoiler HHH wins.

[The CyNick]

Nah, it's going to be a slow turn. Innovater just told me that Evolution, minus Orton, came out to help HHH in is match. So, it's pretty obvious HHH is going to be pissed at Orton for not being there. Well, I hope they do that. Shoud be fairly intersting. I say HHH and Orton have their match at Mania 21

Yeah I think thats as close to a gurantee as youre going to get (waits as LC books tix to LA for Mania). The only question I have is which guy will turn babyface. All along Ive been assuming it would be Orton (he's young, arrogant, etc) but the more I see and hear of Orton, the more I think the fans will turn him baby.

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah I think thats as close to a gurantee as youre going to get (waits as LC books tix to LA for Mania). The only question I have is which guy will turn babyface. All along Ive been assuming it would be Orton (he's young, arrogant, etc) but the more I see and hear of Orton, the more I think the fans will turn him baby.

I wish I could go to Mania. Otherside of the country though. :( Anyway, yeah, I have been assuming Orton would stay heel all along too, but each week, more and more, it looks as if Orton will turn on Evolution and go babyface. Now, I actually wouldn't mind this. I would've at first cause Orton as a heel rules, but I can see this thing play out in my head and I can see Orton as the "standing up to his abusive mentor" kind of thing and I see this working. If Orton goes babyface though, I see him winning the Title at Mania. And not the IC Title folks. :D

[Savio]

I see him winning the Title at Mania. And not the IC Title folks. :D
I don't think he'll go for the womens title. It'll ruin him.

[jindrak]

Orton had already established his reputation by being the longest reigning IC champ in the past 7 years. In that regard, I don't think taking the belt off of him was necessarily a bad idea.

HOWEVER, I don't think the belt suits Edge. I would rather prefer Benjamin holding the belt, but the WWE originally had high hopes for Edge before his injury. In fact, if Edge wasn't injured, he would've gotten the main event push Guerrero got earlier this year.

Personally, I don't find Edge entertaining. :n:

[Savio]

Orton had already established his reputation by being the longest reigning IC champ in the past 7 years. In that regard, I don't think taking the belt off of him was necessarily a bad idea.

Who had it longer 7 years ago jerret?

[Lara Emily]

He should have lost it to Shelton last month. I can only hope that the only reason Edge won was that Shelton got hurt because otherwise it makes the second racist angle in as many years where the white racist comes out on top.

[Vega]

Its really dumb because its not like he's going to get the World Title anytime soon (wont be till Mania).
WM 21? Sorry to break it to you, but no chance it hell. Mark my words. I'd be stunned if he was even in a world title match next mania.

[mike616]

LC, how about someone posting Randy's Titiantron in memory of his IC run?

[Kane Knight]

Its really dumb because its not like he's going to get the World Title anytime soon (wont be till Mania).

He could have continued to get wins on guys like Edge (they could ahve made it a cheap win, to keep Edge's heat for HHH), Jericho and Benoit after he drops the World Title.

Only good that come of it is if Orton gets it back next month in say a Ladder Match. But then if they go in that direction, why even take the title off him in the first place?
Pushing towards the breakup of Evolution?

I dunno. It's the most sense I can make of the situation.

[Kane Knight]

I have no problem with people I like dropping titles, but people I like droping titles to wrestler's who are moderatly over = :n:.
I'm not sure he's even moderately over, really.

The fact that he was getting fewer and softer pops than the HEEL in the match kind of make you wonder. When it came down to cheering a talented, charismatic heel with a strong gimmick or wrestling a middling face with no gimmick (Admittedly, I think Edge could be a lot better than he is...), they went for Orton. Maybe this is a sign?

Of course, the WWE doesn't understand signs and portents. It didn't matter that Mordecai was putting people to sleep until he actually dozed off in one of his matches...Good thing SD!'s taped, yeh>?

[LK]

I don't really mind that the IC title has been taken off of Orton. However I hate the fact that Edge has it. HE has been so boring since he returned and it would have been better if they had given the title to Benjamin or maybe Jericho since he isn't getting near the title any time soon.

[Tornado]

*ahem*


ADAM FK'N COPELAND

[Hired Hitman]

Edge was good before he got injured, now he's crappy, it happens to everyone that comes back after a year or just under.

[Corkscrewed]

Yeah, but he's still cool, so just give him time to shake off the ring rust. Not everyone's The Rock ya know. ;)

It was a great run, but maybe now we'll see that Orton/HHH feud everyone's been rumoring about.

[Sickboy]

C'mon, no one really thinks Orton should be the World champion in a long, long time if ever, right?

[LK]

Orton will be the World Champion but probably not for another year and a half if they keep pushing him like they are right now.

[Lara Emily]

Orton should not be headlining WM 21, far too early.

[tucsonspeed6]

http://armageddon.wwe.com/matches/gallery/images/12.jpg

On December 14, 2003...a young man by the name of Randy Orton got the one up on then Champion Rob Van Dam to capture not only the Title, but also our imaginations. He gave way to a promising new future for the number one wrestling company in the world, and gave all fans a frash new era to live through. Randy Orton went on to hold that very same Intercontinental Championship for an incredible 209 days. He was wrongfully robbed of the oportunity to give to the belt, what he had given to the fans. We take this time to honor Randy Orton and his wonderful contributions to the Intercontinental Championship...and indeed the entire world of wrestling.
:y:

[tucsonspeed6]

Actually, seeing how Cena has been losing heat with his huge pushes, it's understandable why Orton got "depushed" just this once...but to EDGE?!? To quote Rick Flair, "I'm gonna throw up!"

[big_bluto]

Its really dumb because its not like he's going to get the World Title anytime soon (wont be till Mania).

He could have continued to get wins on guys like Edge (they could ahve made it a cheap win, to keep Edge's heat for HHH), Jericho and Benoit after he drops the World Title.

Only good that come of it is if Orton gets it back next month in say a Ladder Match. But then if they go in that direction, why even take the title off him in the first place?
Gotta disagree here.
I think it's a great move.:yes:
And I also think that Orton will get it back before Summerslam.

If Orton had retained the title, I was gonna post a discussion thread titled: Does Orton Devalue the IC Title?

Basically I think that because Orton has held the title for so long, that it's denied other wrestlers the opportunity to get recognised as being at that level, and because he's always won, either by cheating or by that lame ass 'snatch-victory' move, he's never looked like he's been better than anyone else.

For me recently the IC Title has held less value than it should, so if they've dropped it to Edge, it brings Edge up and makes him more legitimate when challenging for the main event.

We've all said for ages that RAW needs more main-event challengers, apart from HHH/HBK, and the only way to give them credibility is by giving them victories over others, and one of the best, proven methods is by giving them a loan of the IC Title.


Anyway, Orton will have the strap back before Summerslam, and Edge will move on to someone else.

[Mayo]

That was such a great match (besides the 15 minute submission spot by Orton), and near the end I was cheering when both men got near falls. Orton was a great champion, and this will only lead to another great match between the two. I think they will push Orton to the world title within 2 years. I salute you, Randy Orton!

http://www.thewrestlingview.com/ro.jpg
http://www.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesO/orton_randy.jpg
http://stinger1987.homestead.com/files/RandyOrton.jpg

[loopydate]

Technically, Randy came three days short of a seven-month title reign. But, check out the company having a six-month title reign puts him in:

Pat Patterson (July '79-April '80)
Ken Patera (April '80-December '80)
Pedro Morales (December '80-June '81)
Don Muraco (January '83-February '84)
Tito Santana (February '84-September '84, July '85-February '86)
Greg Valentine (September '84-July '85)
Randy Savage (February '86-March '87)
Honky Tonk Man (June '87-August '88)
Mr. Perfect (November '90-August '91)
Shawn Michaels (October '92-May '93)
Razor Ramon (September '93-April '94)
The Rock (December '97-August '98)
Randy Orton (December '03-July '04)

That's not bad company to be in.

[Batsu]

Not at all. I think Randy Orton deserves to be in that spot.

And right now, I think Edge's an OK person to take it off him. This could be
another Rock-HHH in the making of sorts. Though, only one thing...I know
a lot of people don't like it, but could Orton please add the O-Zone back
to his moveset?

[ColdwaVer]

I'm not a huge Orton fan, but I must say that he gave more credibility to the IC title just through his promos than anybody has in a very long time. If for nothing else, Orton needs to be looked at as an example of how a wrestler can inject credibility into a title that's been suffering for it.

[Savio]

Orton pissed tonight he's gonna explode on HHH