Lotus
12-26-2003, 06:54 PM
Well, at least in the NFL, NBA, and MLB. I don't follow the NHL enough, and if I included the MLS, then there wouldn't be room for everybody else. I base this on fan attendance and win/loss percentage of the franchise. Well, I didn't take any serious statistics, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. If someone has already done something like this, I'm sorry. I haven't seen anything on these new boards about something like this, so my apologies if this is a repeat topic:
1. Montreal Expos- God they suck. They might have had a couple of seasons around .500 lately, but when is the last time they made the playoffs? Have they even made the playoffs? Do people in Montreal realize that they have a team there? I originally had the Cardinals of Arizona at #1, but then I remembered these ****ers. I could go on for years about these guys, but that's ok. The only thing I will say, however, is that I remember last season when they had a pivotal series against the Braves right after the All-Star Break. The Expos were only 7 or 8 games back of Atlanta, it was in Montreal, and they had their highest attendance of the season I think for a Friday night game in the series: 20,000.
2. Arizona Cardinals- At first, I was going to put the Clippers here, but then I soon thought better of it. Talk about a franchise with no future at all in sight, at least the Clippers have some nice young talent. All the Cards have is Boldin. Not only have they not gone to a SuperBowl, but they've only won one playoff game since moving to Arizona and this year, their fan attendance is around 30,000 per game. God that is horrible for the NFL. I'm not sure if that includes the Chargers/Dolphins game, probably not, but if it did, it would just make shit worse. These guys never keep their good players and it just seems like they will never, ever get out of last place of the NFC West. The formula for success in Arizona is to get a new team president, better upper management, a new coach, a new city (where they could get fans that actually care and a better stadium), a new QB, a new offense (other than Shipp and Boldin), and a new defense. They might as well change their name and uniforms while their at it, just in case that has something to do with their sucktitude. And most likely, Shipp and Boldin won't be there much longer; they never hold on to their good players.
3. Los Angeles Clippers- Yeah, here is another franchise doomed to suck ass for all eternity. These guys haven't made the playoffs in years, and the last time they did make the playoffs, they went in with a staggering 36-46 record, only to be swept by Utah. A couple years ago it looked like they were finally gonna do something good and I actually picked them to go to the playoffs last year after a 40-42 performance the season before, but to no avail, with seemingly the same players, they go 27-55. The Clips need to get out of LA fast because the Lakers hog all the attention there. They should come up to San Jose, a city deserving of an NBA team.
4. Tampa Bay Devil Rays- So what if they've only been around 6 or 7 years? The team still has yet to win 70 games in a season. In that same time, the Arizona Diamondbacks (the other team that came into the MLB with them) has won a World Series and made the playoffs 3 times and are always in the hunt for the playoffs when they don't make it. Also, their ballpark sucks ass and their fanbase is as pitiful as any team's in baseball. They might have some bright new talent in Baldelli and Crawford, but it will be a cold day in hell before the Rays get out of the cellar in the A.L. East.
5. San Diego Chargers- Any team based in San Diego is destined to choke on a chode. They've made one Super Bowl, and they got clobbered by the Niners 49-26, or something like that. They also can't ever finish a season. Last year, they were 6-1 and ended up with an 8-8 record. The year before that, they started 5-2 and lost their last nine. Another time, they started 4-4 and lost their last eight. They will NEVER win a Super Bowl and I don't see them making the playoffs for a while. Another thing, whenever the Raiders or Niners go down to SD to play the Chargers, there is always more Raiders or Niners fans at the game. Says a lot about their fan support. They should move out of San Diego before they go bankrupt.
6. San Diego Padres- Like I said earlier, any team based in San Diego will never fare too well in the long run. The Padres go to the playoffs seemingly once a decade, and in their 2 World Series appearances, they have a 1-8 record. Once again, their fanbase is horrible. No one in San Diego seems to give a damn about sports. Even when Tony Gwynn was there, they weren't selling out or coming close to selling out. While they might have made some nice off-season moves in getting Brian Giles from Pittsburgh and perhaps getting Maddux, there are still 3 teams better than the Padres in their division, and Colorado isn't that far behind them.
7. Milwaukee Brewers- Yeah, this team has not done jackshit since the 80s besides losing 100 games seemingly every year. To make things worse, they are owned by Bud Selig and they traded away their best player in years in Richie Sexson. I might have said the Cards have no future, but this team really doesn't because MLB teams have worse odds of making the playoffs than NFL teams do. Plain and simple, the Brewers are ****ed for eternity.
8. Atlanta Falcons- Yeah, they might have Vick and yeah, they might be tied with the Raiders for being my favorite NFL team, but its never a good thing when a team like Atlanta has been around for more than 40 years and has never gone to the playoffs two years in a row. These guys are like the San Diego Chargers of the NFC: suck ass, suck ass, make the playoffs, suck ass, suck ass, make the Super Bowl and get raped by a historically good team, and then suck more ass. Even with Vick, it won't be a piece of cake making two consecutive trips to the playoffs in the NFL with all the parity in the league. I hope that can be erased, though.
9. Cincinnati Bengals- If it wasn't for this year, they would be in the top five in this list. Going to and playing very competitively in two Super Bowls also has something to do with them being this low on the list. I was thinking about leaving them off this blacklist, but 12 or 13 consecutive seasons with a record of 8-8 or worse definitely solidifies a spot for Cincy. I guess they have pretty good fans, but the 90s and the early part of this decade (the first three seasons at least) was god awful. And they still might add to that string of .500 or worse seasons if they lose to the Browns, although I doubt that. And also, for them to get off this list, they have to do this type of thing more than once. It has to be a string of good seasons for them to be removed.
10. Seattle Seahawks- They rarely have bad seasons, but they rarely have good seasons too. They always seem to finish around the 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 range. I could have this wrong, but I have heard that this franchise has never won a playoff game, and they have been around for 27 years or so. OUCH. I'm not sure what their fanbase is like, I suppose it's ok, but they are doomed to be in NFL purgatory forever. This year is no exception. I hope they will beat the Niners and the Packers lose so Seattle can squeak in, but I can't see that happening. SF will beat them and it won't matter what GB does.
Uhh, there's the list. Here are a couple of other honorable mentions for ya:
Denver Nuggets
Memphis Grizzlies
Detroit Lions
Cleveland Cavaliers
So, what do ya think of the list? Am I pretty right on, or am I way off? What would you change to the list?
1. Montreal Expos- God they suck. They might have had a couple of seasons around .500 lately, but when is the last time they made the playoffs? Have they even made the playoffs? Do people in Montreal realize that they have a team there? I originally had the Cardinals of Arizona at #1, but then I remembered these ****ers. I could go on for years about these guys, but that's ok. The only thing I will say, however, is that I remember last season when they had a pivotal series against the Braves right after the All-Star Break. The Expos were only 7 or 8 games back of Atlanta, it was in Montreal, and they had their highest attendance of the season I think for a Friday night game in the series: 20,000.
2. Arizona Cardinals- At first, I was going to put the Clippers here, but then I soon thought better of it. Talk about a franchise with no future at all in sight, at least the Clippers have some nice young talent. All the Cards have is Boldin. Not only have they not gone to a SuperBowl, but they've only won one playoff game since moving to Arizona and this year, their fan attendance is around 30,000 per game. God that is horrible for the NFL. I'm not sure if that includes the Chargers/Dolphins game, probably not, but if it did, it would just make shit worse. These guys never keep their good players and it just seems like they will never, ever get out of last place of the NFC West. The formula for success in Arizona is to get a new team president, better upper management, a new coach, a new city (where they could get fans that actually care and a better stadium), a new QB, a new offense (other than Shipp and Boldin), and a new defense. They might as well change their name and uniforms while their at it, just in case that has something to do with their sucktitude. And most likely, Shipp and Boldin won't be there much longer; they never hold on to their good players.
3. Los Angeles Clippers- Yeah, here is another franchise doomed to suck ass for all eternity. These guys haven't made the playoffs in years, and the last time they did make the playoffs, they went in with a staggering 36-46 record, only to be swept by Utah. A couple years ago it looked like they were finally gonna do something good and I actually picked them to go to the playoffs last year after a 40-42 performance the season before, but to no avail, with seemingly the same players, they go 27-55. The Clips need to get out of LA fast because the Lakers hog all the attention there. They should come up to San Jose, a city deserving of an NBA team.
4. Tampa Bay Devil Rays- So what if they've only been around 6 or 7 years? The team still has yet to win 70 games in a season. In that same time, the Arizona Diamondbacks (the other team that came into the MLB with them) has won a World Series and made the playoffs 3 times and are always in the hunt for the playoffs when they don't make it. Also, their ballpark sucks ass and their fanbase is as pitiful as any team's in baseball. They might have some bright new talent in Baldelli and Crawford, but it will be a cold day in hell before the Rays get out of the cellar in the A.L. East.
5. San Diego Chargers- Any team based in San Diego is destined to choke on a chode. They've made one Super Bowl, and they got clobbered by the Niners 49-26, or something like that. They also can't ever finish a season. Last year, they were 6-1 and ended up with an 8-8 record. The year before that, they started 5-2 and lost their last nine. Another time, they started 4-4 and lost their last eight. They will NEVER win a Super Bowl and I don't see them making the playoffs for a while. Another thing, whenever the Raiders or Niners go down to SD to play the Chargers, there is always more Raiders or Niners fans at the game. Says a lot about their fan support. They should move out of San Diego before they go bankrupt.
6. San Diego Padres- Like I said earlier, any team based in San Diego will never fare too well in the long run. The Padres go to the playoffs seemingly once a decade, and in their 2 World Series appearances, they have a 1-8 record. Once again, their fanbase is horrible. No one in San Diego seems to give a damn about sports. Even when Tony Gwynn was there, they weren't selling out or coming close to selling out. While they might have made some nice off-season moves in getting Brian Giles from Pittsburgh and perhaps getting Maddux, there are still 3 teams better than the Padres in their division, and Colorado isn't that far behind them.
7. Milwaukee Brewers- Yeah, this team has not done jackshit since the 80s besides losing 100 games seemingly every year. To make things worse, they are owned by Bud Selig and they traded away their best player in years in Richie Sexson. I might have said the Cards have no future, but this team really doesn't because MLB teams have worse odds of making the playoffs than NFL teams do. Plain and simple, the Brewers are ****ed for eternity.
8. Atlanta Falcons- Yeah, they might have Vick and yeah, they might be tied with the Raiders for being my favorite NFL team, but its never a good thing when a team like Atlanta has been around for more than 40 years and has never gone to the playoffs two years in a row. These guys are like the San Diego Chargers of the NFC: suck ass, suck ass, make the playoffs, suck ass, suck ass, make the Super Bowl and get raped by a historically good team, and then suck more ass. Even with Vick, it won't be a piece of cake making two consecutive trips to the playoffs in the NFL with all the parity in the league. I hope that can be erased, though.
9. Cincinnati Bengals- If it wasn't for this year, they would be in the top five in this list. Going to and playing very competitively in two Super Bowls also has something to do with them being this low on the list. I was thinking about leaving them off this blacklist, but 12 or 13 consecutive seasons with a record of 8-8 or worse definitely solidifies a spot for Cincy. I guess they have pretty good fans, but the 90s and the early part of this decade (the first three seasons at least) was god awful. And they still might add to that string of .500 or worse seasons if they lose to the Browns, although I doubt that. And also, for them to get off this list, they have to do this type of thing more than once. It has to be a string of good seasons for them to be removed.
10. Seattle Seahawks- They rarely have bad seasons, but they rarely have good seasons too. They always seem to finish around the 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 range. I could have this wrong, but I have heard that this franchise has never won a playoff game, and they have been around for 27 years or so. OUCH. I'm not sure what their fanbase is like, I suppose it's ok, but they are doomed to be in NFL purgatory forever. This year is no exception. I hope they will beat the Niners and the Packers lose so Seattle can squeak in, but I can't see that happening. SF will beat them and it won't matter what GB does.
Uhh, there's the list. Here are a couple of other honorable mentions for ya:
Denver Nuggets
Memphis Grizzlies
Detroit Lions
Cleveland Cavaliers
So, what do ya think of the list? Am I pretty right on, or am I way off? What would you change to the list?