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[I-Hate-You]

Chris Benoit vs Triple H: One Hour Iron Man Match

Who do you think will win?

Jebus H. Christflakes! I do believe I posted a set of rules in which I said that YOU WILL PUT SPOILER WARNINGS IN THE TITLE. The Brits and those who taped the show haven't seen it yet.

Funky

[The CyNick]

To be honest I'm not so sure.

On the one hand I think because its HHH he will want to be the "king of the Iron Man match" and win again.

We all know he will get the title at some point, its just a matter of time and when he wants it.

The way they jobbed out Benoit tonight and the way HHH totally disregarded Benoit in his promo it almost made me think they want to go with HHH vs Eugene at Summerslam.

HHH has to be in the main event, so its just a matter of who goes with him. Will it be Benoit will it be Eugene or will it be both?

Actually what I could see happening is that Benoit and HHH are tied going into the last minute, and then Eugene runs in with a chair and KO's Hunter. Hunter gets the win and the title, Eugene is dumb and didn't realize what he was oding. Benoit is upset at Eugene for costing him the title, Eugene wants HHH, Benoit wants the belt back, Summerslam is a 3 way.

[I-Hate-You]

I agree.

BTW, I tried making this into a poll, but something happened.

:'(

[Innovator]

might want to put a spoiler tag on this for peeps who don't get RAW until Friday

but Benoit, after tonight he needs some fucking credibility

[AareDub]

Actually what I could see happening is that Benoit and HHH are tied going into the last minute, and then Eugene runs in with a chair and KO's Hunter. Hunter gets the win and the title, Eugene is dumb and didn't realize what he was oding. Benoit is upset at Eugene for costing him the title, Eugene wants HHH, Benoit wants the belt back, Summerslam is a 3 way.

You took the words right out of my mouth. That is exactly what I see happening.

[Thriller]

I could really see the Eugene idea working out.But after Benoit gettting destroyed as alway there buiding him as the underdog so for that matter i see Benoit winning it.But the most likly situation is a draw because for 1)Eugene/HHH is an alright ME for Raw but for one of the big for is a really bad idea.and 2)they played the triple threat to death this year

[V]

eugene better not main event summerslam :@

[AareDub]

Maybe they'll surprise us and make the Smackdown main event headline :lol:

Just wanted to see if I could say that with a straight face.

[The CyNick]

I could really see the Eugene idea working out.But after Benoit gettting destroyed as alway there buiding him as the underdog so for that matter i see Benoit winning it.But the most likly situation is a draw because for 1)Eugene/HHH is an alright ME for Raw but for one of the big for is a really bad idea.and 2)they played the triple threat to death this year

I agree with that, but I think the last few weeks have really killed any chance Benoit had to be drawing champion.

[I-Hate-You]

Because Triple H has kept himself in the spotlight the whole time. Yeah, he may be putting guys like Dinsmore, Benjamin, and Tajiri over, but still, he will not step back and let someone headline.

[Thriller]

I agree with that, but I think the last few weeks have really killed any chance Benoit had to be drawing champion.

No one really gives Benoit a chance.I think the reason he is only wrestling on Raw and not cutting long winded promos is because of the fact that people find him boring on the mic.So in way the WWE is tring not to expose his weakness.Eugene/HHH is to predictable.HHH/Benoit in Benoits country not so much.The need to add something speicial to it

[Innovator]

yeah but it would have given Benoit so much more cred if he interrupted HHH calling him pathetic...I mean cmon WWE

[Mayo]

I agree with Thriller that they shouldn't let Benoit on the mic too much, but he needs to cut short promos at least. Innovator's idea of interrupting HHH is a perfect way, and then HHH gets back at him later on through Batista. Without Benoit being on the mic too much, the feud seems to have even less meaning. I mean, HHH even called Benoit a placeholder for his title a few weeks ago, which is pretty true right now :lol:

[Thriller]

yeah but it would have given Benoit so much more cred if he interrupted HHH calling him pathetic...I mean cmon WWEand the HHH and evoultion would come out a sqwash him and any cred he had would be gone

[The CyNick]

No one really gives Benoit a chance.I think the reason he is only wrestling on Raw and not cutting long winded promos is because of the fact that people find him boring on the mic.So in way the WWE is tring not to expose his weakness.Eugene/HHH is to predictable.HHH/Benoit in Benoits country not so much.The need to add something speicial to it

But he doesn't have to cut promos, he's the World Champ, he should be booked ahead of a guy who should be doing mid card comedy, not to mention Eugene.

[John la Rock]

The only way that Benoit should be booked ahead of HHH is if he wrestles 5 matches a night.

At least Trips has charisma. And Benoit will win the Iron Man due to Eugene interference

[Thriller]

Chris Benoit has been involved in the main event on Raw almost every week and putting on solid matches, so how is he not being booked ahead of everyone

[Londoner]

^because HHH is obviously getting far more TV time than benoit and they're never putting Benoit on the Raw preview unless he's facing HHH.Get it now?

[Londoner]

**And they never headline ppv's with Benoit unless he's facing HHH. Did you see how much build up hhh-hbk got compared to Benoit-Kane? Yet it's kinda funny how Benoit-Kane turned out to be a far better match.

[The Mackem]

I don't know, I mean Brock won one on Smackdown didn't he for the title so I'm not sure. I hope Benoit wins though.

[Londoner]

HHH will win, he always wins these stipulation matches doesn't he? But as someone said before, benoit got beat down the other week so they might've just tried to make him look even more of an underdog or something, but then again the stories of headlining hhh with a championship match at summerslam against Benoit could still be true, only Benoit is the challenger this time... :shifty:

[Xero]

I think it'll be a pretty good match, hopefully Benoit goes over, and they have the title change at SummerSlam... I would rather see the title change at a big PPV than on a Raw, and I think Trips sees it that way too...

I've heard that the Iron Man match will OPEN Raw... (JR even said it would be at the top of the hour, but he never said which hour) That's just stupid, especially since Spike TV allows over runs...

[Dave Youell]

Benoit will win, And go on to face a heel Edge at Summerslam.

Trips wont win as he's off to hollywood at the end of summer so if he were to go he'd have to job the belt back to someone pretty quickly, which would make no sense

[Dave Youell]

Oh and Funky, good work with the non spoilerage in the title :y:

[LK]

This is quite difficult to predict but I think I am goign to go with Benoit after Eugene interference. Then the week after HHH and Eugene face for the number one contendership and that is a draw leading to a triple threat at SS.

[Hired Hitman]

Benoit will outlast Triple H... come on... It's Benoit, he can go for hours... :shifty:

[Thriller]

^because HHH is obviously getting far more TV time than benoit and they're never putting Benoit on the Raw preview unless he's facing HHH.Get it now?
Correct me if im wrong but at Bad Blood didnt Benoit have 2 matchs.There was a time he had 2 belts so dont tell me that he not gaining cred and that HHH is stealing the spot light.It would happen even if Trips wasnt banging the bosses daughter.I mean if it was the Rock on Tv cutting a funny promo every week ,Or what if It was Orton would people be complaining that Benoit doesnt cut promos or get TV.Or is it just out of pure hatered for the Game.My point is that its not that Benoit isnt getting airtime or headlining that pisses everyone off its that its Triple H who getting airtime that is.If it was anyone else no one would care because Benoit puts on 5 star matches every week.He does his talking and gains his cred in the ring.Everyone is just looking for another reason to blame Triple H even when he is entertaining at times

[The CyNick]

Correct me if im wrong but at Bad Blood didnt Benoit have 2 matchs.There was a time he had 2 belts so dont tell me that he not gaining cred and that HHH is stealing the spot light.It would happen even if Trips wasnt banging the bosses daughter.I mean if it was the Rock on Tv cutting a funny promo every week ,Or what if It was Orton would people be complaining that Benoit doesnt cut promos or get TV.Or is it just out of pure hatered for the Game.My point is that its not that Benoit isnt getting airtime or headlining that pisses everyone off its that its Triple H who getting airtime that is.If it was anyone else no one would care because Benoit puts on 5 star matches every week.He does his talking and gains his cred in the ring.Everyone is just looking for another reason to blame Triple H even when he is entertaining at times

If you are the champ you should headline, Benoit hasn't done that (except when he's in with Hunter). Hunter has and always will be the main event on RAW. Any champion other than HHH therefore seems less credible because HHH is always portrayed as the top guy.

[James Steele]

Damn it, let it go HHH is an asshole blah blah blah. We got the damn point a long long ass time ago.

Just get over it, he is getting better and i am really enjoying Triple H again. Sure he is the "top guy", but Benoit has had a better run that i think any of us suspected. The HIAC headlined because it was the final match in a LONG ASS fued that has been going on for almost 2 years! So of course a "2-Year Fued Comes To A Close In The Biggest Match The WWE Has to Offer.... HELL IN A CELL!" will headline before a "Kane gets another title shot that nobody gives a rat's ass about".

They could have given the Kane/Benoit more hype, but i think HHH/HBK was such a long and huge fued (long and boring, but still a huge fued) that it outshined the Kane/Benoit match in "hype". Not promotions, but HYPE. Alot of casual fans who are friends of mine were looking forward to the HIAC because they really wanted to see who would finally win the war.

That was a month ago, get over it and enjoy Benoit's reign not being pissed on like Eddie's.

[Stickman]

Does anybody else think there will be big ratings drops during the match? I think the last five minutes will be huge, but the other 55 minutes is filler. I can't believe they're having an iron man match on Raw.

[Thriller]

Damn it, let it go HHH is an asshole blah blah blah. We got the damn point a long long ass time ago.

Just get over it, he is getting better and i am really enjoying Triple H again. Sure he is the "top guy", but Benoit has had a better run that i think any of us suspected. The HIAC headlined because it was the final match in a LONG ASS fued that has been going on for almost 2 years! So of course a "2-Year Fued Comes To A Close In The Biggest Match The WWE Has to Offer.... HELL IN A CELL!" will headline before a "Kane gets another title shot that nobody gives a rat's ass about".

They could have given the Kane/Benoit more hype, but i think HHH/HBK was such a long and huge fued (long and boring, but still a huge fued) that it outshined the Kane/Benoit match in "hype". Not promotions, but HYPE. Alot of casual fans who are friends of mine were looking forward to the HIAC because they really wanted to see who would finally win the war.

That was a month ago, get over it and enjoy Benoit's reign not being pissed on like Eddie's.
At least someone agrees with me

[Thriller]

Does anybody else think there will be big ratings drops during the match? I think the last five minutes will be huge, but the other 55 minutes is filler. I can't believe they're having an iron man match on Raw.
They had one on Smackdown and it was a MOTY canidate so why not try and have the same success a year later on Raw

[Londoner]

Correct me if im wrong but at Bad Blood didnt Benoit have 2 matchs.There was a time he had 2 belts so dont tell me that he not gaining cred and that HHH is stealing the spot light.It would happen even if Trips wasnt banging the bosses daughter.I mean if it was the Rock on Tv cutting a funny promo every week ,Or what if It was Orton would people be complaining that Benoit doesnt cut promos or get TV.Or is it just out of pure hatered for the Game.My point is that its not that Benoit isnt getting airtime or headlining that pisses everyone off its that its Triple H who getting airtime that is.If it was anyone else no one would care because Benoit puts on 5 star matches every week.He does his talking and gains his cred in the ring.Everyone is just looking for another reason to blame Triple H even when he is entertaining at times

Yes benoit had 2 matches, but they barely had any hype whatsoever. All the tag team title match got was Eric Bischoff coming out and saying that at bad blood Benoit would compete for the tag titles. One show build up, that's it.I bet most people who ordered that PPV forgot he even had a tag title match, i know i did.

And also to back up my point, i haven't seen Benoit got the upperhand on HHH once since they started feuding again apart from when he got that roll up to win the match. Fuck i bet that's the only way Benoit even gets a fall in the iron man match.

[Thriller]

He gets the upper hand in every match he has with HHH.Benoit has been built up as the underdog.If he he got the upperhand all the tim he wouldnt be the underdog therefor when he wins it dosnt mean as much

[My Final Heaven]

I tend to ignore HHH, but there is one thing I wish they would change. He looks like a gay prettyboy in his current prematch portrait, they need to change it back to his old bad-ass one. just my opinion :D

[Londoner]

He gets the upper hand in every match he has with HHH.Benoit has been built up as the underdog.If he he got the upperhand all the tim he wouldnt be the underdog therefor when he wins it dosnt mean as much

Didn't seem that way when JR was describing there match at Vengeance, didn't seem that way that time when they competed at No Mercy 2000 either, HHH dominated that one to when he was a face.

[Thriller]

Do you not understand the term underdog?

[Londoner]

Yes but he shouldn't be made to look like an underdog when he's the champ!To make the champ of the show look credible you have to make it like he's unbeatable..

[Thriller]

Not nessessarily.They made Goldberg and Brock unbeatable and it got boring.

[Londoner]

I don't think it got boring myself, Brock looking unbeatable really put Eddie over when he beat Brock at No Way Out, and if Benoit looked unbeatable, then when the title changes hands it would actually matter.

[Disturbed316]

Actually what I could see happening is that Benoit and HHH are tied going into the last minute, and then Eugene runs in with a chair and KO's Hunter. Hunter gets the win and the title, Eugene is dumb and didn't realize what he was oding. Benoit is upset at Eugene for costing him the title, Eugene wants HHH, Benoit wants the belt back, Summerslam is a 3 way.

If that happens that will be twice Triple H has won the Iron Man Match that way. Remember, that happened against The Rock, when The Undertaker returned at Judgement Day.

Taker came in and started chokeslamming the hell out of everyone, then the buzzer went and chokeslammed Triple H. Of course, HBK didn't hear the buzzer go and DQ'd Rock to give Triple H the win.

[Thriller]

I don't think it got boring myself, Brock looking unbeatable really put Eddie over when he beat Brock at No Way Out, and if Benoit looked unbeatable, then when the title changes hands it would actually matter.But if the person is unbeatable you know its just a matter of time before he gets the built back.If an underdog loses it.It will me more when he regains it.When Austin had the title he was always the underdog.But when he lost it and won it back it was entertaining.

[Londoner]

Good point, i guess either way has its pros/cons...

[Thriller]

Finally you see it my way :lol:

[Londoner]

I see it both ways , notice i said either side has it's pros/cons.But ill'd much rather Benoit look unbeatable like when he was a heel.

[Thriller]

As a heel it would work him being unbeatable,espicially if they gave him a mouthpiece.But hes not a heel hes a face.Everyone want to cheer the underdog so let them cheer

[Mayo]

Will this saga ever end?

Who will be the master debator?

Tune in next week to find out!

*suspenseful music plays*

[Londoner]

But they made Eddie look unbeatable and people still cheered for him,and as it turns out i've enjoyed Eddie's run as champ alot more than Benoits.I guess we just have different opinions eh!

[Thriller]

Eddie was unbeatable how do you figure? he lost the title in his forth defense

[Pegasus Crawford]

Let's see.. the last time World Title (well, the WWF title at the time) changed hands on a Raw..... Wasn't it back in 2000?

And wasn't the person who won it was... Triple H? :-\

[mrslackalack]

I think the Benoit and HHH match should go into a Sudden Death and end with Benoit pinning HHH with HHH's foot on the rope with the ref not seeing it or a double countout in the period.

Personally I think The Raw Main Event at SS should be a EC with

Benoit
HHH
Jericho
Edge
Orton
Eugene

[Thriller]

Let's see.. the last time World Title (well, the WWF title at the time) changed hands on a Raw..... Wasn't it back in 2000?

And wasn't the person who won it was... Triple H? :-\And his opponant was the Big Show

[Londoner]

Eddie was unbeatable how do you figure? he lost the title in his forth defense

Just the feeling i got from it, maybe that was cos he didn't have any decent opponents though come to think of it...though i really wish he would've beat JBL, that would've made him look unbeatable.