View Full Version : Ricky Williams of the Miami Dolphins Retiring!
Apprentice
07-25-2004, 03:05 AM
This is just shocking but according to ESPN and Dan Le Batard of the Miami Herald, Ricky Williams has grown tired of football and is set to retire. The Dolphins will do whatever it takes to get him back but Le Batard believes that Williams will stick with his decision.
This is just going to be a huge blow to the Dolphins. Ricky is a top 5 back and I have no idea why he is retiring.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
07-25-2004, 03:10 AM
LOL
Patriots folks
Damn, this came out of the blue. This should end the Dolphins/Super Bowl talk.
Apprentice
07-25-2004, 03:13 AM
Seriously. I just saw it on the 10pm(west coast) sportscenter. There was no talk of this at all earlier in the day.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
07-25-2004, 03:26 AM
He never really seemed to care that much about football, sorta seemed like he was just because of his crazy talent. Like he had the feeling that he HAD to play just becuase he was gifted talent-wise. I dunno tho it is a big blow for the NFL IMO. I can't stand the Dolphins but the NFL is losing a pretty big marquee player. Its too bad, if he could have stayed healthy he would have probably been one of the best of all time. He had on really good year, the only year he was healthy and had a good team around him. I think if he had more years like that he would be up there with the greats.
But being a Patriots fan I am glad to see him go, even though the Dolphins always choke at the end of the season anyways
Apprentice
07-25-2004, 03:31 AM
He never really seemed to care that much about football, sorta seemed like he was just because of his crazy talent. Like he had the feeling that he HAD to play just becuase he was gifted talent-wise. I dunno tho it is a big blow for the NFL IMO. I can't stand the Dolphins but the NFL is losing a pretty big marquee player. Its too bad, if he could have stayed healthy he would have probably been one of the best of all time. He had on really good year, the only year he was healthy and had a good team around him. I think if he had more years like that he would be up there with the greats.
But being a Patriots fan I am glad to see him go, even though the Dolphins always choke at the end of the season anyways
I agree. He had loads of potential and was just hitting his prime. Now that division is a joke and the Pats are gonna run away with it. I have no idea who their backup is and if there are any serviceable running backs out in free agency. I don't even think they will compete for the playoffs now. At least Miami has the basketball season to look forward to.
The Miz
07-25-2004, 03:32 AM
WTF
KingofOldSchool
07-25-2004, 03:59 AM
LOL
WOW
The Colts are lucky.
They took Manning over Leaf. Look what happened to Leaf.
They took James over Williams. Now look at Williams.
Damn this has shocked the hell out of me.
road doggy dogg
07-25-2004, 04:15 AM
MESSED. UP.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
07-25-2004, 05:25 AM
I agree. He had loads of potential and was just hitting his prime. Now that division is a joke and the Pats are gonna run away with it. I have no idea who their backup is and if there are any serviceable running backs out in free agency. I don't even think they will compete for the playoffs now. At least Miami has the basketball season to look forward to.
Travis Minor or something, Pretty sure he was the starter before Williams. I mean hes servicable but no where near Williams. Maybe they can get in on Eddie George sweepstakes (He mighta already signed with Dal.) Or maybe Antoine Smith (coulda signed with Titans though)
#1-norm-fan
07-25-2004, 08:26 AM
Yeah, Eddie George already signed with Dallas.
WTF... Ricky Williams. Un-Be-Lievable.
VonErich Lives
07-25-2004, 10:18 AM
He was quoting as saying he's "never felt so free", he was on some trip w/ visitng people in huts and said he couldn't believe how these people we're so free or something like that...
It's not final till he files, also keep in mind he failed a 2nd drug test for marijuana and faced fine and possible suspension.
This hurts the Phins, they'll have to try and make a trade w/ someone... I'd assume the likely target is Buffallo, even though it's in division, the Bills have 2 RB's, there not going to feature 2, and if you can get a 1st round pick....
Excellance of Execution
07-25-2004, 12:01 PM
He was quoting as saying he's "never felt so free", he was on some trip w/ visitng people in huts and said he couldn't believe how these people we're so free or something like that...
It's not final till he files, also keep in mind he failed a 2nd drug test for marijuana and faced fine and possible suspension.
This hurts the Phins, they'll have to try and make a trade w/ someone... I'd assume the likely target is Buffallo, even though it's in division, the Bills have 2 RB's, there not going to feature 2, and if you can get a 1st round pick....
Being a Buffalo fan, i know with pretty good certainty that the Bills wouldn't trade Henry or McGahee this year, especially to the Phins. Buffalo want's to see how McGahee's knee is this year and at that point (probably next year) they will trade one of them.
Crimson
07-25-2004, 01:18 PM
Very surprising, I hope he reconsiders. Hopefully it was like a 'feel good at the moment' type of decision. But if his heart isn't in the game then maybe it's better for him.
KingofOldSchool
07-25-2004, 02:22 PM
They always can take a chance to get someone like Larry Johnson or maybe Arlen Harris. If Harris plays like he did last season while filling in for Faulk he could be a good pickup.
The Outlaw
07-25-2004, 02:25 PM
What the...
This came out of left field.
YOUR Hero
07-25-2004, 03:01 PM
pussy.
AlphaBean
07-25-2004, 03:55 PM
Holy shit. Trade Ogunleye to the Vikings for a HB.
Zen v.W.o.
07-25-2004, 04:02 PM
...
Nah trade somebody to the giants. We got dayne and tiki. Dayne might be better off elsewhere.
VonErich Lives
07-25-2004, 04:49 PM
Holy shit. Trade Ogunleye to the Vikings for a HB.
Talked to my brother down in Florida this morning and that's the early rumor is trading Ogunleye, since he's a restricted free agent, has threatened to hold out and wants 6yrs is only being offerd 3yrs.
Boomer
07-25-2004, 06:09 PM
It was so wierd, I was watching Sportscenter last night in ATL, and it said nothing. I get up 8 hours later, and its the top headline. I think he's nuts. Seriously.
VonErich Lives
07-25-2004, 07:03 PM
ya know... if he had said... I'm young, healthy and can live w/o ever having to work again...
That would be different.
But it seems it's pressure forcing him out...
Now, once away, will he get the "itch" again? will it be another Jordan who keeps coming back?
Barry Sanders walked away short of a record, but he had been doing it for a lot longer.
I still wouldn't be shocked if they talk him out of it.
So now Johnson feels free and has traveled to Asia where he's going to remain for many months.
Anyone want to bet he returns next year as Mohammed Willi?
VonErich Lives
07-25-2004, 08:51 PM
So... let's check here...
no RB.
Azk Thomas off surgery
McMichael facing battery charges
I wonder what that did to the Vegas lines..
VonErich Lives
07-26-2004, 01:34 PM
listeing to the guy who broke the story.
Said he'd been talking about it all offseason but was going to finish the year for his teammates, but said he couldn't take another year of the physical punishment for someone else.
There talking now how sports are put a higher level, that if someone leaves their job, people don't get the same treatment.
They all agree is timing is selfish, and that williams knows this, but doesn't care because he wants to do something for himself.
one quote I found interesting is Williams has never liked the NFL being allowed to say what he can and can't put in his body... I assume thats talking about smoking weed.
Supreme Olajuwon
07-26-2004, 05:24 PM
He sounds like a quitter to me
Gonzo
07-26-2004, 05:28 PM
Yeah, assuming he is talking about weed, it isn't the NFL. It is the law you know...
I am a huge Dolphins fan, and this pisses the shit out of me. He could have at least done it a month ago so that we could have gotten Eddie George or Antowain Smith. I hear the Fins are going after Stacy Mack or James Stewart since they are free agents, or they could stick with Travis Minor. Now that they have a lot of salary cap room, they better make a huge trade or signing to improve. They haven't made many moves at all this offseason :mad:
VonErich Lives
07-27-2004, 04:19 PM
I am a huge Dolphins fan, and this pisses the shit out of me. He could have at least done it a month ago so that we could have gotten Eddie George or Antowain Smith. I hear the Fins are going after Stacy Mack or James Stewart since they are free agents, or they could stick with Travis Minor. Now that they have a lot of salary cap room, they better make a huge trade or signing to improve. They haven't made many moves at all this offseason :mad:
Was Williams still under his original contract or had he redone it? Cause if he had a new one, there going to want back some signing bonus money and the cap will be screwy, like when Sanders retired.
Was Williams still under his original contract or had he redone it? Cause if he had a new one, there going to want back some signing bonus money and the cap will be screwy, like when Sanders retired.
Not sure about that. They better sign somebody quickly though.
VonErich Lives
07-27-2004, 06:08 PM
There was talk of shipping Ogunleye to Chicago for A-train, but Chicago says they don't want to part w/ A-train...
Dunno, seems like a decent deals for both sides...
Gonzo
07-27-2004, 06:27 PM
Especially with Chi-Town's acquisition of Thomas Jones.
Crimson
07-27-2004, 11:35 PM
Mortensen said this wouldn't hit the Dolphins in the salary cap so they'll have some money to play with. Why the fuck wouldn't the Bears make that trade , Urlacher needs help, plus with those 2 rookie D-ineman they would improve drastically on defense.
Excellance of Execution
07-27-2004, 11:40 PM
Good for Ricky!!! It's easy for us sports fans to knock the guy for walking away from a sport that he's good at. Expecially since a lot of people have him on their fantasy football teams. The bottom line is, it is his life and he has the right to do what he wants with it. If he doesn't want to play football anymore, than that is his choice and his choice alone.
VonErich Lives
07-28-2004, 03:10 PM
being reports he has to pay the Phins back 8mil in signining bonus.
Wonder if that changes his mind... he had a horrible contract his first few years w/ New Orleans...
VonErich Lives
07-28-2004, 04:08 PM
also, the only trade rumor I've heard more then once from more then one source...
Edgerian James to Miami.
Bill Polian released a statement "no trade" and no truth to the rumors... but you gotta look at it.
Edge grew up and played college ball in Miami, lives there and spends most the off-season there.
Now, look at the Colts, Edge and Harrison are both free agents at years end, they can't afford both (good job on your contract Manning) so, why not get something for Edge before he walks? I doubt they'd keep edge over Harrison, I mean.. the idea of letting go of one of the best WR's in the league when you have all that money tied up in your QB doesn't make a lot of sense...
KingofOldSchool
07-28-2004, 05:02 PM
Then again it's the Colts you are talking about. :lol:
Oh btw...
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=stevens/040728
:lol:
KingofOldSchool
07-28-2004, 05:05 PM
Ya know...Miami can still get Ricky Williams to play for them this season.
The Colts' Ricky Williams...:shifty:
VonErich Lives
07-28-2004, 07:37 PM
I still don't think he's filed yet... who knows... he was going to play this season for his "teammates" but now who knows...
I still wouldn't be shocked to see him back before the pre-seasons over...
VonErich Lives
07-29-2004, 03:29 PM
** Ex-Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams told The Miami Herald’s Dan Le Batard that he found out in the days leading up to his retirement that he tested positive for marijuana would have to serve a 4-game suspension. According to the article, Williams admitted that marijuana played a larger role in retirement than he originally indicated. Ricky’s biggest complaint is that he doesn’t feel the government nor the NFL should ban his wonder joints. ''I didn't quit football because I failed a drug test,'' he said. ``I failed a drug test because I was ready to quit football.''
credit draftsharks.com
Supreme Olajuwon
07-29-2004, 05:02 PM
WTF he failed a drug test because he's a pot head and a terrible teammate
Rain Man
07-31-2004, 12:26 AM
he just quit so he can smoke pot for the rest of his life... fuckin failure
The Outlaw
07-31-2004, 03:24 PM
Yeah, one of his teamates (center) totally trashed him on ESPN
Good for that guy :D
Yeah he finally finalized the retirement papers, so he cannot come back to the NFL for a year without penalty. I haven't seen much of Travis Minor, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Fins end up giving the ball to him for the next season. That trade for Anthony Thomas looks pretty good, seeing as how the Dolphins have a great defence anyways.
I wonder if AJ Feely will start over Fiedler now that they have to rely more on passing (Feely has a stronger arm).
AlphaBean
08-04-2004, 04:37 AM
This would have been a lot more funny had Ricky been an Eagle.
Oh man, I swear he'd be dead by the end of the year.
MoRcHeEbA
08-05-2004, 03:33 PM
rumors got it he wants tp play for the raiders in 2005
VonErich Lives
08-05-2004, 04:38 PM
Can't wait for the Dolphins season DVD... loss after loss, to the tune of "Cause I got high....."
The Miz
08-05-2004, 05:02 PM
rumors got it he wants tp play for the raiders in 2005
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#1-norm-fan
08-05-2004, 06:14 PM
Nope. Heard on ESPN yesterday that Ricky said if he does decide to come back, the only team he would be willing to play for is Oakland because of Norv.
#1-norm-fan
08-05-2004, 06:14 PM
Can't wait for the Dolphins season DVD... loss after loss, to the tune of "Cause I got high....."
:lol:
MoRcHeEbA
08-05-2004, 07:09 PM
Nope. Heard on ESPN yesterday that Ricky said if he does decide to come back, the only team he would be willing to play for is Oakland because of Norv.
I heard it's cause his sister is there.
The Outlaw
08-05-2004, 10:18 PM
I heard it's because "California has the only fans that are crazy enough to like a weirdo like me"
:lol: :lol:
Gonzo
08-05-2004, 10:28 PM
Wasn't Norv Turner the offensive coordinator in Miami these past few years while Ricky was there? That makes sense, no why anyone would want to play for the Raiders boggles my mind.
KingofOldSchool
08-05-2004, 10:40 PM
Wasn't Norv Turner the offensive coordinator in Miami these past few years while Ricky was there?
Yeah.
#1-norm-fan
08-06-2004, 04:03 AM
Yeah. Ricky Williams had his most success under Norv Turner's offense in Miami hence he wants to play for him in Oakland.
AlphaBean
08-06-2004, 05:00 AM
Gannon, Chuck Woodson and a draft pick for Ricky Williams. And Ogunleye?
Dunno. It'd be sweet.
VonErich Lives
08-08-2004, 04:14 PM
This keeps getting better.
Huizenga the Phins owner said he plans to sue rickey for 5mil in incentives paid over the last 2 seasons, a report got ahold of Rickey and asked him about it, his response was he'd file bankruptcy and Huizenga would look really stupid suing an bankrupt guy w/ 3 kids.
There's also been a few nfl leaks that if rickey comes back next seaosn, where he retired he wouldn't have to still serve his 4game suspension.
YOUR Hero
08-08-2004, 04:26 PM
I hope he does sue him.
VonErich Lives
08-08-2004, 04:49 PM
I hope he does sue him.
I think he can for part of the signing bonus, Barry Sanders had to pay part of his back.
I don't think you can sue for incentives earned, if he got 1mil for rushing for 1,000yds and he did it, then I'm not sure what case could be made.
Gonzo
08-08-2004, 04:52 PM
Now David Boston is out for the season too. The Dolphins are fucked.
Boston is out? WTF??? :mad:
Looks like rather than the Fins actually making the playoffs this time, they will be battling against the Bills for the better draft pick. Fuck you Ricky, fuck you. My avatar is dedicated to you :)
AlphaBean
08-09-2004, 12:52 AM
Bills will be awesome.
Bengals are back to the bottom.
VonErich Lives
08-09-2004, 04:35 AM
Bills will be awesome.
Bengals are back to the bottom.
Bills should be the #2 team in the AFC East if they play to potential this year.
MoRcHeEbA
08-09-2004, 04:39 AM
This keeps getting better.
Huizenga the Phins owner said he plans to sue rickey for 5mil in incentives paid over the last 2 seasons, a report got ahold of Rickey and asked him about it, his response was he'd file bankruptcy and Huizenga would look really stupid suing an bankrupt guy w/ 3 kids.
There's also been a few nfl leaks that if rickey comes back next seaosn, where he retired he wouldn't have to still serve his 4game suspension.
except he wont be able to file for bankruptcy unless he wants to give up all his cars and his no doubt HUGE house. a Bankruptcy judge would go to town on him.
VonErich Lives
08-09-2004, 05:01 AM
except he wont be able to file for bankruptcy unless he wants to give up all his cars and his no doubt HUGE house. a Bankruptcy judge would go to town on him.
Very true, but if he's out of the country and has his cash invested in weed....
I didn't recall that miami gave him a new contract w/ a signing bonus, if so, then he will have to pay that back, just like Barry Sanders did... but I don't see how you can sue for incentives reached.
Interesting, if he came back this year, he'd be banned for a year, because retiring and coming back same season is treated like failing a drug test, which would be #4 for him.
BCWWF
08-09-2004, 12:43 PM
I didn't read this whole thread, but has anybody mentioned that Edgerin James wants a trade to his home state?
VonErich Lives
09-25-2004, 06:31 PM
So, Williams lost in court. Even though the Phins didn't pay his signing bonus... and he had hit incentives... aperently the contract had a clause that if he didn't finish the contract he'd have to return incentives and signing bonus.
Whoever did the deal for the Saints was a genius!
I want to know will the Saints get the bonus money or the Phins?
Ricky said if he owed the 8mil he'd file bankruptcy.
He had also called the Phins and said he'd come back for a new deal.
There is talk he could file bankruptcy and would return to the NFL next season as a free agent.
I'm sure the Phins would argue they still have the rights (not sure how longs left on his contract).
Maybe they can give him an "all the weed you can smoke" clause.
DaveWadding
09-25-2004, 06:36 PM
pay him in baggies of pot...genius :lol: :D
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