Official Metal Thread

[Bandit]

Hello posters of TPWW. I'm commonly known as "Bandit" over at ye ole rajah.com, but don't think for a second that I only registered here to pester the lot of you. Scrolling down the first page of this music forum, I notice some of you listen to quite decent music, therefore, I decided we compile all of our thoughts and words regarding the genre of metal (and any sub-genres of metal) in this here thread.

This thread is for any of the following:
Listing recently-purchased metal CDs
Reviewing songs/albums/bands correlated to the metal scene
Debating anything regarding metal itself


I'll start.

I just picked up "Voimasta Kunniasta" from Moonsorrow, completing my album collection from them. I've also picked up Shining - Within Deep Dark Chambers.

Please, for the good of metal, discuss.

[Downunder]

I just downloaded the best of Thin Lizzy - Phil Lynott is God.

That is all

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Recently purchased:

Killswitch Engage -The End of Heartache
Zyklon - Aeon

[The Mask]

Last thing I got was an Iggy Pop album on the cheap :$

[OssMan]

recently purchased Metallica - S&M

their last good album :(

they ruined "Bleeding Me" and "Of Wolf and Man" though

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I will look into increasing my Iron Maiden catalog when I have some money, and might look into Motorhead's Inferno and The Eyes of Alice Cooper.

[Bandit]

Mr. Monday Morning, how's the new Zyklon? Any good? All I've heard from them is "World ov Worms"

[Arashi Kage]

I'm gonna see Slayer and Judas Priest live in Toronto on Wednesday, perhaps I can post a review of the show.


Last album purchased - the infamous Priest album Turbo. :y:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Mr. Monday Morning, how's the new Zyklon? Any good? All I've heard from them is "World ov Worms"

I haven't actually heard World... :$ but everything I've read suggests Aeon kicks its' ass. And it is indeed a fine album.

[Outsider]

Nu metal counts as metal right?

Lets talk about the new Papa Roach CD.

*runs like buggery*

[Sepholio]

I just downloaded some tracks from a band called Sub Dub Microwave, they rock pretty hard.

[Kane Knight]

Nu metal counts as metal right?

Lets talk about the new Papa Roach CD.

*runs like buggery*
There's a new one?

*shoots self now to save trouble later*

[Funky Fly]

The last 2 metal purchases I made were Hatebreeder by Children of Bodom and Abigail by King Diamond both in May. The last album I d/led was Megadeth's Youthanasia, early this morning.

[JJ Moore]

Ayreon - Human Equation
Nevermore - Polotics Of Ectasy
Metallica - Download Festival 04 - Lars Who? Joey Jordison is the f'n man, i reccomend Creeping Death

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Metallica - Download Festival 04 - Lars Who? Joey Jordison is the f'n man

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[JJ Moore]

http://asphyXy.net/hb.gif

:cool:

[Downunder]

I will look into increasing my Iron Maiden catalog when I have some money, and might look into Motorhead's Inferno and The Eyes of Alice Cooper.
:love: \m/

[Bandit]

I'm gonna see Slayer and Judas Priest live in Toronto on Wednesday, perhaps I can post a review of the show.


Last album purchased - the infamous Priest album Turbo. :y:
Awesome, I'm looking forward to it.

Whoever asked about the nu-metal, you can talk about it, but just don't expect too many people to respond...

[Joeleosis]

I'm listening to Cradle Of Filth's latest song "Gilded Cunt"..... it rules. Also, I just discovered Dragonforce after asphyxy dropped their guitarist's name in another thread. Even though its power metal cheese, they rule. :'(

[The Destroyer]

Dragonforce's lyrics are cheesy as hell. But they're still one of the few power metal bands I actually like...

[Silent]

I bought Killswitch Engage's latest yesterday, and I have been listening to it almost non stop..it sounds a lot like a gothenburg record.

[asphyXy]

Last purchase = Heathen - Recovered

[Bandit]

Good ole DragonForce...

Duh dun duh dun duh *random crazy fast solo* (repeat twenty times)

I read a review claiming that as any given DragonForce song...made me chuckle.

[thecc]

the best metal cd to come out recently was the oncoming storm by unearth

[Bandit]

I just saw the video for "Every Time I Die" from Children of Bodom for the first time (I've heard the song many times though)

It's a cool video, and one of their better songs.

+1

[asphyXy]

Unearth isn't metal.

[Bandit]

I've never heard Unearth. Is that a good or a bad thing?

[asphyXy]

:y:

[Bandit]

Okay, we need some sort of discussion in here...

What's everyone's favorite Bathory CD?

[asphyXy]

Octagon is off da hook.

Seriously, Blood Fire Death cannot be beaten.

[Bandit]

Blood Fire Death is my favorite as well.

I also listen to Self-Titled a lot. But in my opinion, I think all Bathory is good. So I'm biased.

[asphyXy]

Even Octagon?

[Bandit]

It's not one of my favorites, but I'll be completely honest and say I don't dislike it. :$

[The Wizz]

I'm waiting for the new Danzig.

Period, end of.

[Bandit]

I'm downloading the new Danzig as we speak. :lol:

I'm cheap.

By the way, :wave:

Did you just sign up recently, or do you justn ever post here?

[The Destroyer]

Join Date: 08-17-2004

So there's your answer.

[Bandit]

I'm often too lazy to go into a poster's profile. :p

Anyways...

Anyone here a fan of Vlad Tepes?

[JJ Moore]

im gonna go see Dragonforce :cool:

[asphyXy]

One of my "associates" is in contact with the guys of Vlad Tepes. He played me some of their unreleased stuff a while back. It's insanely raw sounding.

[RGWhat316]

I've actually never listened to a whole lot of Megadeth. But I just heard their new song "Die Dead Enough", and I love it.

[House of Pancakes]

Melvins fuckin own.

[Bandit]

Melvins fuckin own.
That's enough out of you.

[House of Pancakes]

If you were cool and a Melvins fan, you wouldn't be saying that.

[Bandit]

But you see, those two just don't go together.

AsyphyXy (I probably butchered your name just now) since you're one of the only people who talks about metal consistantly in here, what do you think of the band Shining?

[House of Pancakes]

How can you fucking live with yourself without your daily dose of the Melvins?

Wait a minute!

Have you even HEARD the Melvins?

[Bandit]

I haven't heard the Melvins.

You've always been so obsessed with bands claiming they're the best thing ever (Tool, APC, to name a few) when in actuality, they're not even THAT good.

Thus, I have feel no obligation to hear this band.

Having 'The' as their prefix doesn't help either.

[House of Pancakes]

That entire post is exactly why you're not a Melvins fan.

[Bandit]

I'll give them a listen maybe.

But if they're not as good as you say they are, I'll tell you.

[House of Pancakes]

If you're interested... all their albums are pretty different sounding, and they've been putting out albums for the past 20 years, so it's tough to tell you where to start. If you wanna start off, I'd say to get Stoner Witch, Stag, or Hostile Ambient Takeover, and listen to their new one out in a week, Pigs of the Roman Empire. Their new album is real brutal and heavy, also.

They're not black metal, so you might not like em, but the Melvins are clearly better than any other band.

[Bandit]

I'm open to music other than black metal.

There's at least one band from each genre I like, pretty much.

What genre are they classified as, just as a forewarning?

[House of Pancakes]

They're considred rock/punk/sludge by magazines, but the Melvins are very obscene and aesthetic. They've done a straight country album, they're always collaborating with different musicians, and every album they put out sounds different than the next. They're a mindfuck. The Melvins are a different band than everyone else in history.

If you're looking for their most versatile stuff, get Stag. It's my favorite Melvins album anyway. If you want straight out balls, I can send you their new CD.

[Bandit]

Via AIM or what?

[House of Pancakes]

Yeah, I guess.

Also keep in mind, this isn't a true Melvins album. It's a collaboration effort with some noise artist called Lustmord. He does cool shit, but whenever the Melvins start playing, shit starts flying.

Tracks 4 and 7.

[Bandit]

My AIM is all fucked up.

I'll just download some stuff from them tomorrow.

[House of Pancakes]

Soulseek is great for it.

Pigs of the Roman Empire, Stag, Stoner Witch, Hostile Ambient Takeover, The Crybaby, Bootlicker, Houdini... all good choices.

[Bandit]

I worship Soulseek.

Any other recommendations?

I've been sick since Monday, and I'll be home all day tomorrow and the next day because of it.

[House of Pancakes]

Tell me you've heard Mike Patton.

[Bandit]

I've heard Mike Patton.

[House of Pancakes]

Fantomas? His stuff with Dillinger?

If you haven't checked out Meshuggah, definitely do that. Jesus Lizard, Kyuss, Neurosis, Pigmy Love Circus [Danny Carey's side band], Venomous Concept.

[Bandit]

I've heard Fantomas, I haven't heard Dillinger but I've heard lots of good things about them.

Haven't heard Meshuggah, heard they rule, heard they suck.

I like Kyuss and Neurosis.

Haven't heard any of the other bands yet.

[House of Pancakes]

Aside from their album with Patton, Dillinger's not that great. But get that fucking album.

Meshuggah rules. They do some crazy shit with rhythms and time signatures. Their drummer's great. They have a new EP called I coming out real soon, I have it, it's on Soulseek. It's one excellent 21-minute song. The album Chaosphere is good too. Jesus Lizard rules. They aren't a band anymore, but they were Tomahawk's guitarist's old band. Cobain loved them, but he's a pussy anyway. Don Caballero IS AWESOME. "What Burns Never Returns." Great album.I'm not sure if you're into really mellow stuff, so I didn't recommend any.

[asphyXy]

Shining is good at what they do. Nothing fantastic, but good.

Anael = great black metal with awesome atmosphere. Check them out.

[Bandit]

asphyXy do you like any dark ambient stuff at all?

[asphyXy]

Yes.

Nordvargr is awesome for times of deep thought.

[Bandit]

Awesome, I'll check em out.

What do you think of Ildjarn?

[asphyXy]

I have to be in the mood for Ildjarn. Ildjarn = the be all and end all of grim production. When I first heard Strength and Anger, I was confused. Definitely not something to listen to casually...

[Bandit]

I fall asleep to Niddhogg nearly every night.

[asphyXy]

The "compilation" album?

[Bandit]

I lied.

I fall asleep to Hardangervidda and Hardangervidda part II every night.

I downloaded it and play it from Winamp, and thought it was Nidhogg because it was listed as Ildjarn - Niddhogg - Hardangervidda.

Meh, whatever.

[asphyXy]

Nidhogg is a guy who worked with Ildjarn. The album "Ildjarn - Nidhogg" is a compilation of their shit.

[Bandit]

Ahh, I see.

[deathtrap]

JJ, why is a man in your avatar poking a red X?

[Joeleosis]

Meshuggah are bad ass. I find them most notable for their odd experimentations with rhythm. Check out their latest song, "I". It's pretty fucking insane, like 20 minutes long. Listening to the second section of the song, I have come to the conclusion that cymbals are heavier than snares. Overload of treble backed by intense bass explosion = heavier than shit. This combination is what makes black metal work. (not insinuating Meshuggah is black metal)

On the subject of rhythm, and straying into the area of nu-metal, I was just listening to Mudvayne while taking my dad to work. I truely only appreciate these guys for their drummer and their bassist. Fucking tight system of rhythm, the only reason these guys have a tendency to suck live is because their guitarist and vocalist can't keep with the beat of the rhythm section. Truely awesome work when you really lend your ear to some of their songs.

Last thing on my mind ATM concerning metal... I read something about Marduk and Finntroll and a couple of other bands teaming up for a European tour a while back... I've noticed Marduk is touring quite a bit over there. It leads me to believe their is a slight possibility that I could see both bands live in the near future. :love: I would die to see Finntroll live. And other tour thoughts, I have decided to pass up Nightwish in concert having heard their latest albums. They can suck my balls, not in the mood for opera metal. Last, Gorgoroth are touring in Mexico.... roadtrip? Haha prol'ly not, but that would be sick. :cool:

[The Wizz]

I'm downloading the new Danzig as we speak. :lol:

I'm cheap.

By the way, :wave:

Did you just sign up recently, or do you justn ever post here?

Just signed up recently. For some reason, while Rajah is blocked, TPWW is not. So I figured, eh, why the hell not?

Got to kill my time somewhere. This was obviously my next option.

Have you finished downloading the new 'Zig? If so, any good?

[thecc]

I've never heard Unearth. Is that a good or a bad thing? http://www.metalblade.com/bands/unearth/UN-Great.mp3

[The Destroyer]

Aside from their album with Patton, Dillinger's not that great. But get that fucking album.
Pfft, be quiet.

[The Wizz]

Been listening to the new(est) Machine Head album. I've had it for a little while now, and I'm rediscovering it.

My thoughts are...if they were capable of recording this album while recording The Burning Red and Supercharger...why the fuck didn't they record it?! It's truly one of the best pieces they've created. :y:

Also been listening to the new(est) Hatebreed album...and while I thought, at first listen, it just wasn't as good as Perseverance, I've discovered that not only was I wrong, but that the album is simply better. By far and away. While I felt satisfied listening to Perseverance after the first five or so tracks, I can listen to track after track after track of the newest one, and never get bored of it. Which, again, warrants a :y:.

Just a few random thoughts to start my day.

[asphyXy]

Machine Head went Gothenberg on their new album. Pure dog shit.

Hatebreed isn't metal. Be gone.

[The Destroyer]

Gothenburg my arse.

[asphyXy]

Have you heard Machine Head's new album? It's hilarious how Robbbbb Flynnnnn keeps up with the latest trends.

[Arashi Kage]

What an amazing show, basically, it rained during Slayer and we got soaked, but were blessed with no rain for Priest.


The following is from Jon Schaffer @ Halford's board
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I've never seen so many people at the Molson Amphitheatre before, it must have been close to selling out. I was in the 2nd row, and you could see people as far back as you could see.

Hellion - Electric Eye: A black cloth covering the eye in the center of the stage lifted as Electric Eye started. The metal god stood absolutely motionless while he sang the first two verses, it was like looking at a picture. He remained there until Glen's solo. Rob then appeared to the left of the stage and remained on the stairs for the rest of the song. Glen's solo sounded fairly loud from the 2nd row.

Metal Gods: They went right into Metal Gods. Rob's voice sounded much stronger on this one than on the album or any live version. Rob stayed on the stairs for the whole song, moving back and forth, then doing a quick spin when he reached the end of the stairs. Glen's solo on this one was much louder, it looked like he asked for his volume to be raised between songs. Rob and Glen especially were showing large smiles between and during songs.

Heading Out To The Highway: Rob then greeted the crowd, and left the stage for Glen and KK to begin. Rob's first big scream came here, and it was loud, piercing, and effortless. Rob was nearly struck in the head with a beachball sometime around here, but was singing with his eyes closed and never saw it.

The Ripper: Again this song sounded much better than on any bootleg from this tour. Rob stood between Glen and KK for the beginning. The band seemed amazed at how many people were clapping in the middle of the song, and how loud they were. They looked amazed several times throughout the show.

Touch Of Evil: Rob came soaring in on the high rise to the left of the stage in his bath robe. I thought it would be a slow ascending to the top of the stage, but it took him less than a second, the platform went up pretty fast. The crowd was shouting out this song as much as any other, even though it is probably the least publicized song in the set. Rob was up on the high rise to the left for the first part of the song, then moved to the right side. Glen's solo could be heard perfectly.

The Sentinel: Glen and KK went to the center of the stage to start this one, and it seemed more powerful than ever. Rob then entered from the left. His screams in this song were the loudest yet, they were very crisp. Rob would bend down and put his hand on the mic stand while singing, it seemed like he was putting his entire weight on the thing, it was shaking all over the place. The dueling solos were wonderful, although I could not hear KK's leads as loudly as Glen's.

Turbo Lover: The crowd also enjoyed this one. Rob wandered the stage throughout the song. He would walk toward the front of the stage and do little twists back and forth, waiving his hands around. There was a kid no more than 5 years old singing the words to this song on somebody's shoulders, it's the youngest person I've ever seen at a show.

Victim Of Changes: Rob did wonderful here. He went over to Glen and Ian and was headbanging along with them while KK was soloing. One of the best screams of the night was towards the end of the song. By this time Rob had changed jackets 3 times or more. Glen's 1 note solo actually worked, the crowd got really loud as he walked across the stage doing it. And he looked amazed at how loud they were.

Diamonds and Rust: They brought out the acoustics, and before GLen and KK could start in, the crowd was yelling so loud they couldn't begin. This went on for 2 minutes or more, and they just sat there smiling. It was the loudest crowd I've ever heard. The crowd sang through the entire song with Rob. I believe Rob changed to the all black shiny jacket here.

Breaking The Law: Rob just started right in with "breaking the what," no british steel introduction. Rob went over to grab a pick and they joined instruments. The crowd got even louder here, and they sung they entire song. Never once in the entire show did Rob mention or motion to the crowd to sing louder the next time, they were loud from the beginning. At the end when Rob and the crowd traded back and forth singing the chorus, the crowd was just as loud as Rob. Except of course for his scream at the end.

Beyond the Realms of Death: The disco ball came on here. Stars shined across the electric eye background. Rob added "it's my fucking life, I'll decide not you" into the song. When Rob sings "slammed the door" you can hear a loud slamming of some sort, it's on bootlegs too. I'm not sure what they use to make the sound. It was obviously a Priest crowd that knows all the material, because they knew all these older songs as well as the popular 80's songs.

Green Manilishi: Rob introduced this one by giving one of his high screams "The green manilishi." This is the first time I've heard him introduce the song this way. The crowd sung the harmony at the end and again Rob seemed impressed at the edge of the stage watching. Rob incorporated several spins, kicks, and other assorted body movements throughout the night.

Painkiler: The strobe lights went crazy for this one. Rob leaned over with his hand on the mic stand, all you could see was his bald head. No death growls here, all high notes. After Rob's scream "killer" toward the end of the song, he just started yelling at the crowd and pumping his fists, he looked like he was going crazy. I've never seen him this energized before. He was yelling at them as loud as he could, not into the mic of course.

Hell Bent For Leather: Rob came out on the bike, shining in his all metal jacket. I don't think he could see as his hat completely covered his eyes. He remained on the bike for the whole song.

Living After Midnight: They went right into the next song. The crowd was obviously loud on this one. Rob again seemed surprised at how many knew the words and how loud they sung. Rob shined across the stage as the lights reflected off his jacket. He was walking across the front of the stage for most of this one.

United: The crowd was pleased to here this one. It's a pretty simple song, Rob hung out in the middle of the stage for most of it.

Another Thing Comin: Rob was not tiring at all, he sung this as good as Electric Eye. During the beginning where he has the crowd mimick him, he had them mimick such things as "judas fucking priest." There were other things he said but I have forgotten, but it was much different than most of the bootlegs so far. At the end Rob came out and again was yelling furiously at the crowd and waiving his arms all over and shaking his head. He seemed over excited to be there. Then he pointed to everyone and said "I love you" and then ran off the stage.

I have never seen a band happier to be on the stage, nor a singer sing as high, loud, clear, and consistent as Rob.


I'll add that Slayer sounded great.. in top form. My cousin came with me even though at the time he didn't know much of Slayer or Priest. After the show he told me that out of all the shows he's seen (Smashing Pumpkins, Aerosmith, Foo Fighters, and a whole lot more I forget) this was the most amazing one he's ever seen.

I'll have some pics and video later tonight if anyone's interested.

[The Wizz]

Machine Head went Gothenberg on their new album. Pure dog shit.

Hatebreed isn't metal. Be gone.

Alright, I can see how welcome I am due to my low post count. But please elaborate, asphyXy, on (a) how "Gothenberg" Machine Head "went" on their new album. Frankly, I tend to think that Killswitch Engage's new album sounds much more "Gothenberg" than MH's...but hey, who knows.

Besides that fact, (b) the few previous albums that MH put out were complete swill compared to the newest one. So please, if you could for such an ignorant buffoon as myself, elaborate on your opinion.

Secondly, being metal or not, I enjoy Hatebreed. Not everyone dictates their musical tastes on black metal, metalcore and the like. Take into account that not only are you not aiming your post at some 15-year-old-snot-nosed-punk-kid, but that I pride myself on not simply the genre I listen to, but the variety of genres that I'm capable of standing.

Be gone, indeed.

[asphyXy]

When Vio-lence broke up, Robbbbb Flynnnnn wanted to keep his thrash roots alive. He pretty much did that with "Burn My Eyes", as it had some really awesome thrash songs. It also had its share of pure dog shit. This came out in 1994, and became the precursor to mallcore groove-pseudo-metal. Pantera were doing this quite successfully, but they stayed metal.

When "The More Things Change" came out, Robbbbb Flynnnnnnn decided that it was cool to be influenced by Korn, thus losing their right to be associated with thrash. There are barely any riffs, and the vocals are damn near rapping. What's that? Rapping over downtuned chords? Hmm... it's 1997. Seems like the "in" thing to do.

Then there's "The Burning Red". One of the worst albums of all time. Why? Because yet again, Robbbb writes the songs based on what is currently "in". No creativity here at all. There are zero memorable riffs. The vocals are fucking hilarious. This is the shit Linkin Park fans eat up.

"Supercharger". The new Machine Head album to put them back on the metal map. I don't remember exactly when this came out - it was a few years ago. I remember downloading it. I listened to the first song and all I heard was "Burning Red" pseudo-riffs. But wait... what's that? Never mind, the two or three thrash riffs that exist on this album aren't enough to save it from being utter shit. Try again next time, Robbb...

...Well, maybe he shouldn't have tried again. Their newest album has no direction at all. What are they trying to be? Shadows Fall is pretty popular these days, and they're considered "metal", right? Robbbbb, take note. Nu-metal is going under, and Gothenberg is in! Same shitty songwriting, but now with MELODIES!

Robbbbb, those melodies sound awfully generic.

Robbb says: "Don't worry, we're going to be creative and have HARMONIES!"

Wow, Robbbbb. That is creative. I can only think of 4000 bands that rip off Gothenberg by using harmonies. Good job. Mallcore and Gothenberg mixed into one. Groove riffs and melodies do NOT mix, especially when they're the most generic of their respective classes.

Machine Head has always followed trends. Gothenberg is the latest trend, so they start adding harmonies in the most inappropriate places.

As for Hatebreed, they have no talent.