UEFA World Cup Qualifiers

[yianni]

They get into full swing this weekend. Obviously with most of the football followers on here being British, this topic will turn out as a discussion on the British national teams. What do you Englishlads think of your chances against Austria this weekend? I don't know much about their football but I'd say you guys would have an away win there. Wales should overcome Azerbaijan, and Scotland should...well...who knows. :lol:

Greece open their Germany 2006 campaign with an away game as well, against neigbouring Albania. Hopefully they keep up the form which saw them win the Euro, and beat the blockheads. Can't wait for Greece-Turkey in Greece next week though, that will be fucking insane. :eek: :y:

Discuss whatever you want about the qualifiers in UEFA or anywhere else in the world.

[Wengerland]

I think we should win both our games to be honest (Poland away on wednesday), 4 points would be alright though.That's mainly based on their recent home defeats in friendlies but Austria lost at home to Holland and Czech Republic in their last qualifying campaign and Poland finished behind Latvia in their group. Heskey shouldn't have been dropped though, we need an alternative option up front and it looks like he's been dropped because of one bad game at Tottenham, which is unfair considering he got good reviews against Pompey and scored against Man City.

I'm trusting Theo's in your squad, yianni :love:

[packt up]

If we don't win both games just wait for all the sven haters to resurface again.

In the FA.

I reckon dropping Heskey was the right decision although we do lack a target man upfront. Defoe seriously deserves a chance.

And I hope Wright Phillipsssssssssssssss gets a chance though apparently he might miss out with injury :(.

I feel we will win both to be honest. Anything to get me away from the shit going on at St James' these days :(.

[deathtrap]

I remember in the 2002 World Cup, when Australia got knocked out of the final qualifers, an Aussie substitue teacher took a day off work

[yianni]

And they won't qualify yet again this time around, deathtrap, the way they're bloody going at the moment.

[deathtrap]

Hm, I can see them slipping up against British Samoa

[yianni]

They're ordinary but not THAT bad...:p

[Loose Cannon]

Czechs should go through this time. Holland will be the toughest to get by.

[Team Sheep]

I've got my Wales v Northern Ireland tickets secured :cool: Hopefully we can get 6 points in our opening 2 games (Azerbaijan, N Ireland) but you just never know in football these days. Baku is no easy place to go and play a game of football, especially after a tiring journey and rather depressing surroundings. But footballers are professionals, so hopefulyy they can overcome that and play some class footy and fly home with 3 points in the bag. I like our form going into these qualifiers. In our last five games we:

Beat Scotland at home 4-0

Beat Hungary away 2-1

Drew with Norway away 0-0 (in that game we must have had about 3-4 max Premiership players on the field, and all the rest were either Championship or League 1 players)

Beat Canada at home 1-0

Beat Latvia away 2-0.

Also, in our last 7 games we have scored 9 goals and conceded just 2. And with the form Hartson and Bellamy are in at the moment, I think this will turn out to be an enjoyable campaign for us Welsh. Certainly looking forward to it :y:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Ireland start off with Cyprus on Saturday and then away to Swizterland next Wednesday.

We've got a tough group, with basically all the teams fighting it out behind France. I'm basically going to rule out getting anything from France and take any kind of encouraging performance as a bonus.

I think we're good enough to finish second, I just hope we play to our abilities. Roy is back, so he'll put some composure and experience, as well as quality, back into central midfield.

Also, since the Euro 2004 qualifying campaign, a number of players have emerged as international players: Andy O'Brien, Liam Miller and Andy Reid in particular, with Graham Barrett impressing and Jon Macken a badly needed extra striking option.

Our first eleven for the most part should be:

Given
Carr
O'Shea
O'Brien
Cunningham
Andy Reid
Kilbane
Roy Keane
Miller
Duff
Robbie Keane

Holland, Morrison, Finnan, Barrett etc. will figure strongly.

That's a talented and hard working side. Enough to dismiss the likes of Switzerland.

[Rob]

We better win. That's all I'm saying.

[Danny Electric]

Ireland start off with Cyprus on Saturday and then away to Swizterland next Wednesday.

We've got a tough group, with basically all the teams fighting it out behind France. I'm basically going to rule out getting anything from France and take any kind of encouraging performance as a bonus.

I think we're good enough to finish second, I just hope we play to our abilities. Roy is back, so he'll put some composure and experience, as well as quality, back into central midfield.

Also, since the Euro 2004 qualifying campaign, a number of players have emerged as international players: Andy O'Brien, Liam Miller and Andy Reid in particular, with Graham Barrett impressing and Jon Macken a badly needed extra striking option.

Our first eleven for the most part should be:

Given
Carr
O'Shea
O'Brien
Cunningham
Andy Reid
Kilbane
Roy Keane
Miller
Duff
Robbie Keane

Holland, Morrison, Finnan, Barrett etc. will figure strongly.

That's a talented and hard working side. Enough to dismiss the likes of Switzerland.


I can see you beating France at home, they are not a great side and they're beatable. But then I see you slipping up against one of the smaller sides.
I hope you qualify though, unlucky at the last world cup.

[Wengerland]

Zidane retiring from internationals is a big blow for France, like Scholes for England, but i can still see them qualifying.

Ireland should be good enough for 2nd and they'll get it hopefully.

The side ECG posted is certainly good enough, i'd maybe have Holland ahead of Kilbane but he's injured right now anyway.Roy Keane will probably miss the games though and i read this morning that Delap and Miller are doubtful too, Connolly almost certainly out but,given his form for us so far, that's not too much of a bad thing.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Delap has strangely never figured for Ireland. I'd rather have Kilbane over Holland. Holland is kind of shit. Kilbane has that work ethic and penetration about his game. He really fits nicely into central midfield. Good engine, box to box man. He's a powerful runner, and good at getting into the box for crosses.

[Team Sheep]

lol, who saw that news report on Sky Sports News earlier? The reporter was in the stadium and there was an Austrian flag and a Union Jack hanging up there. Nobody had noticed anything wrong with it until someone from Sky contacted the head guy at the stadium and pointed it out. Then a guy went to the roof of the stadium, embarrasedly pulled down the Union Jack and took it away. The Stadium manager was said to be furious, and promised that there will be a St. George's cross there by kick off tomorrow. They said this was because Austria haven't played England for ages and the last time they played eachother, it was kind of a trend to bring Union Jacks to matches, but nobody hardly does it anymore. Dumbass Austrians :lol:

[Rob]

As opposed to the dumb arse English fans who bring Union Jacks to matches or the dumb arse England team who play the BRITISH national anthem before games?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">LOL what a goal. That was just smart play.

Becks :love:</font>

[ct2k]

1-0 against Austria and Poland beat the Northern Irish scum 3-0:cool:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Steven Gerrard. What a goal.

COME ON</font>

[BCWWF]

I'm getting France and Israel right now on the international channel, its a really slow game though

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">whooooo! David James!</font>

[The Mackem]

Kilbane has that work ethic and penetration about his game. He really fits nicely into central midfield. Good engine, box to box man. He's a powerful runner, and good at getting into the box for crosses.
Try telling that to about 30 000 Sunderland fans :'(

[The Mackem]

whooooo! David James!
lol

[packt up]

Try telling that to about 30 000 Sunderland fans :'(

lol we called him Skillbane.

Great irony we Geordies have.

[packt up]

AND AFLAKDFKADLFKAFDAL

David James...can't believe it.

And how Wright Phillips didn't get on the pitch but Jamie Carragher did is beyond me.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Bye Sven. Take Calamity with you please.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Oh, nice one on missing from 8 yards Smithy

[The Mackem]

Drawing away to Austria isn't that bad.

[packt up]

Drawing away to Austria isn't that bad.

Yes it is you crazy Mackem bastard :foc:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">it is when you're 2-0 up and in control :$

James was poor, not only letting that goal in but also when he ran out and messed up and let the striker go round him and that shot that went through his arms. I don't think Robinson is particularly great but id rather him.</font>

[packt up]

Drawing against Austria full stop is a bad result.

They are ranked 90th. i.e teams such as Burkina Faso, Kenya, Iceland and Guatemala and EVEN SCOTLAND ;) are better than them. Seriously there are only 205 teams ranked which includes all those tiny ones like Cook Islands therefore they are only halfway in the entire world. Therefore a draw is no where near good enough.

When you consider we were 2-0 up with 30 mins to go its a crime.

[The Mackem]

Ah see I see this kind of stuff all the time from Sunderland. We're always giving people two goal starts and then coming back. Unfortunately there aren't any keepers in the Coca cola Championship that gift you goals.

[packt up]

Yeah thats right Mackem you're used to this shit.

Spare a thought for us who support better teams :(.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">POOOOOOM for England :cool:</font>

[The Mackem]

Like England :lol:

[packt up]

Like England :lol:

Like Newcastle :mad:

Oh wait :( :'(

[Team Sheep]

1-1 away to Azerbaijan doesn't seem so bad now :cool:

[packt up]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">POOOOOOM for England :cool:</font>

My gf served Mart Poom in a supermarket.

She said he had huge hands.

Probably a good job.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Huge hands eh? ;)

I bet he makes John Oster and Kevin Kyle all embarrassed in the shower after the game :$</font>

[The Mackem]

They don't call him Big Kev for nothing.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Big Kev? That just means more embarrasment for John Oster then I guess :'(</font>

[packt up]

LOL

Whenever I see him on tele he just looks like the most dopey player ever.

But then I remember that time he scored with a great header. Those crazy Eastern Europeans.

[The Mackem]

He once wrote a letter into a paper (might have been the Telegraph) after an Estonian model called all Estonian men "ugly".

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">he played like 4 times for Pompey ages and ages ago. And Iwan Roberts scored a hat trick against him for Leicester according to WWEngland.

POOOOOOM</font>

[Rob]

1-1 away to Azerbaijan doesn't seem so bad now :cool:

Sorry it's a lot worse. Austria are a decent team and are miles better than 90th.

Still, England were hilarious. :lol:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">shhh, we've moved on from that. We're talking about Poom now. :$</font>

[The Mackem]

What was the Scotland score last night? I left the pub and it was still 1-0.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">got to 1-1 after Raul scored a penalty, then like 2 minutes later the floodlights went out and it chucked it down with rain so everyone went home.

POOOM</font>

[Rob]

7-0 Scotland :shifty:

[Rob]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">got to 1-1 after Raul scored a penalty, then like 2 minutes later the floodlights went out and it chucked it down with rain so everyone went home.

POOOM</font>


Don't listen to him.

[The Mackem]

Big Kev will score on wednesday Rob, mark my words.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">it is when you're 2-0 up and in control :$

James was poor, not only letting that goal in but also when he ran out and messed up and let the striker go round him and that shot that went through his arms. I don't think Robinson is particularly great but id rather him.</font>

Robinson's started the season pretty decently. Helps he has a (slightly) better defence in front of him now, but still. There's no point saying the other keepers aside from James don't have experience because eventually *someone* is going to replace him, and they'll still have no experience :| Better to cut the clanger-dropping twat now and give someone, be it Robinson, Kirkland or whoever, a run leading into the World Cup.

Oh, and Scotland finished 1-1

[Mr. Monday Morning]

1-1 away to Azerbaijan doesn't seem so bad now :cool:

Good to see Paul Jones carrying his club form over to international level

[Rob]

Big Kev will score on wednesday Rob, mark my words.

Who?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Murray for Wolves...and England</font>

[Team Sheep]

Ah well, it's early days yet. I'm confident Azerbaijan will take points off Poland and Austria, so I'm not worrying just yet.

[Team Sheep]

And how unlucky was Earnie at the end :'(

[Y2Ant]

Manninger should have been sent off for handling outside the area. :mad:

It would have been funny if he had been too, since they had no reserve keeper. :cool:

[Dazz]

LOL at Stevie G being subbed because he signalled to the bench that Bridgey was injured and they thought he meant that he was injured :$.

I cannot count the amount of times I have said that Robinson should be there and not James, and then all these dickheads start sticking up for James. Garuntee that now they are all like "I never liked James he's shit" :mad:

[Y2Ant]

I was never a big fan of James, my mate loves him though, can't wait to see what he thinks now. :o

[yianni]

Fucking Greece lost 2-1 away to Albania :nono:. I think we needed Dellas to play, from reports I've read Dabizas wasn't nearly as effective against Albania as Dellas has been. Where does Dabizas play now? Fucking free-to-air Australian TV has lost the rights to the Premier League so I hardly see any of it anymore and know what's going on. :mad:

Anyway the boys need to fucking re-group and MUST PRODUCE A RESULT against Turkey in Greece on Wednesday night. The only consoling thing to take away from this loss to the Blockheads is that we struggled early in Euro 2004 qualifying (lost our first two games from memory) then finished off very strongly to qualify. I'm hoping that loss was the wake-up call we needed, so that the Chickens visit Greece on Wednesday night and get an almighty arsekicking.

[yianni]

2006 FIFA WORLD QUP QUALIFICATION - UEFA
Qualifying Round - 4th September 2004
Results:

Northern Ireland 0-3 Poland

Russia 1-1 Slovakia

Denmark 1-1 Ukraine

Latvia 0-2 Portugal

Austria 2-2 England

Croatia 3-0 Hungary

Malta 0-7 Sweden

France 0-0 Israel :|

Republic of Ireland 3-0 Cyprus

Iceland 1-3 Bulgaria

Finland 3-0 Andorra

Switzerland 6-0 Faroe Islands

Estonia 4-0 Luxembourg

Turkey 1-1 Georgia :y:

Slovenia 3-0 Moldova

Belgium 1-1 Lithuania

San Marino 0-3 Serbia & Montenegro

Romania 2-1 Macedonia :y:

Albania 2-1 Greece :nono: :n:

Italy 2-1 Norway

Azerbaijan 1-1 Wales

[Dazz]

2006 FIFA WORLD QUP QUALIFICATION - UEFA
Qualifying Round - 4th September 2004
Results:

Romania 2-1 Macedonia :y:



MUTU MUTU MUTU MUTU

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Dabizas plays for Leicester in The Championship.</font>

[Jacko]

MUTU MUTU MUTU MUTU


It's MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTUUUUUUUUUU :cool: Nice free kick aswell.



PS. David James and Alan Smith suck.. balls... heavily.. *sigh* :wavesad:

[LK]

Calamity James strikes again :lol:

[yianni]

Dabizas plays for Leicester in The Championship.
Thanks.

[ct2k]

Poland/England on wednesday. Perfect opportunity to wind up all my mates:D

[Loose Cannon]

WTF at France. Come on. Were they playing their best?

[ct2k]

Its all those French Jews moving over to Israel i figure

[Dazz]

It's MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTUUUUUUUUUU

No, it's not.

Still think Gudjohnsen is anything more then shit? The guy has been just as bad so far this season as he was last. I don't care that he scored against ManYoo, he was the worst player on the pitch that day. How you even stick up for the guy is beyond me.

[Sephiroth]

2006 FIFA WORLD QUP QUALIFICATION - UEFA
Qualifying Round - 4th September 2004
Results:


Italy 2-1 Norway



:love: :yes:

[ct2k]

what was Sven doing bringing Carragher on for Stevie G last night?! :?:

[Dazz]

Gerrard explained it after the match, Bridgey was injured and Gerrard signalled for him to be taken off, but Eriksson misunderstood and thought Gerrard was injured. Still, why wasn't Joey C brough on?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He was :wtf:

[Y2Ant]

lol @ france

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Defoe & Robinson start in place of Smith and James :eek: :D

Roy Keane starts for Eire

No other team news yet

[Ogen]

'Mon Ireland a draw will do us away as long as we beat the cunts at home but we're good enough to take all 6 points off everyone in the group bar France who I thinik we'll take 1 off just.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Defoe :love:

Why the fuck Gerrard and Beckham keep giving the ball away I don't know :|

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Eire drawing 1-1 with the Swiss...Morrison on target again :eek:

Northern Ireland beating Wales :o Savage sent off :lol: along with Hughes

<font size=1>Oh yeah, Scotland 0-0 with Slovenia</font>

[BCWWF]

I was just reading a book and saw the name, so sorry this is off topic but what ever happened to Paul Ince?

David Wright also now that I think about it, I used to have a trading card of his that proclaimed him the pride of England or something :wtf:

[Loose Cannon]

USA/ Panama tonight for any American that cares.

They beat El Salvador on Monday and are in 1st in there group.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I was just reading a book and saw the name, so sorry this is off topic but what ever happened to Paul Ince?

David Wright also now that I think about it, I used to have a trading card of his that proclaimed him the pride of England or something :wtf:

Paul Ince is still playing, for us :love: Although this more than likely is his last season.

I don't remember any David Wright :o

LOL @ the England players refusing to give interviews after the game because of the press treatment over the last few days. What a bunch of pathetic crybabys.

[Rob]

Charlie Nicholas and Gordon McQueen = Two fu</>cking doss cunts.

[yianni]

Fucking so frustrated, I've just gotten home from the South Melbourne Hellas social club where they showed Greece vs Turkey early this morning (kick-off was 4:45am Melbourne time and now it's 7:17am). 0-0 draw in the end. We had a few very good chances, one cleared off the line, a goal disallowed because of a 'push' on the Turkish keeper :roll:, and a couple of headers go just wide. Turkey had very few chances but of the few they had they went dangerously close to scoring :nono:. It was just so fucking frustrating to watch, Greece were very ordinary in terms of hitting team mates with passes, general laziness etc. Very different to the last time I saw them in the Euro final. Argh very frustrated, we should have come away with a win against the Scum but at least we have a point. :o

brb checking up other scores from this morning.

[Rob]

That Robbie Savage red card was absolute bullsh</>it.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Robbie Savage didnt deserve to go off...which just makes it even more funny :cool: have that you little cunt :lol:

awww complaining that Hughes could've broken his leg :'( poor Robbie :wavesad:

On an England note, Beckham's set pieces were poor today :|</font>

[Rob]

Healy's was just as bad

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">and yeah, the England players need to grow up. Not talking to the media because of the way they've been treated? Atleast they didnt threaten to strike this time.</font>

[The Mackem]

haha Savage cried?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">nah, although that would've been funny.

He was wrongly sent off after a clash with one of the Northern Irish players but y'know. Then he complained about it in his interview after the match.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He looked like he was going to when he was talking about missing the England game :o :lol:

Can't believe that's his 1st ever red card :|

[Rob]

Come on now. He got screwed so he has every right to complain. If that was Frank Lampard then you lot would be throwing fits.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Frank Lampard isn't a whiny little bitch who nobody likes though

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Yeah exactly.

Robbie Savage is one of those players that just pisses everyone off and all the Birmingham fans say "you'd like him if he was on your team" and "he's a good player, you just dont like him because of his reputation."

If Robbie Savage was on my team id be embarrased by him and as for good player, he's average.

And I also can't believe that was his first red card.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

It's not about him being an irritant because of him actually being a goodish player, it's about him going out of his way to wind up opposition fans and players alike.

His poodle hair doesn't help either.

[The Mackem]

No I mean was he actually crying?

[The Mackem]

Jeff Whitley scored :cool:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Let's make this the UEFA World Cup Qualifiers/Robbie Savage Disappreciation Thread :shifty:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">and the POOOOOOOOM appreciation thread :cool:</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

No I mean was he actually crying?

I thought I saw a tear forming in the corner of one eye and he sniffed a few times, but no streams down the face.

[BCWWF]

USA/ Panama tonight for any American that cares.

They beat El Salvador on Monday and are in 1st in there group.

Is this game on ESPN? Nothing showed up when I looked up soccer on TV this week :'( This could definately be a conflict with the Twins if it is on somewhere

[Ogen]

The Savage and Healy red cards were both jokes and Robbie Savage is a player that everyone bar the top 5 would love to have on their team he's fucking brilliant to have.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">He's not brilliant. Theres tons of better midfielders than him around. He's an average premiership player. He'll put in a few okay set piece deliveries other than that the only notable thing about him is the fact he's a wind up merchant.

If he didn't spend all his time winding everybody up no one would care about him. "Robbie who?"</font>

[Loose Cannon]

Is this game on ESPN? Nothing showed up when I looked up soccer on TV this week :'( This could definately be a conflict with the Twins if it is on somewhere

Yeah, you might not get it. It's on some channel called Fox Sports World.

[Skeletor2]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/toonfan/savage_off.jpg

[Danny Electric]

Savage is a decent player, he's been great for Blues. He puts himself about that winds up the opposition and just gets them frustrated. The ref in the Wales game was a joke, I feel sorry for the Italian league.

[Loose Cannon]

0-0 USA/Panama at the half. Pretty sucky game.

[BCWWF]

FSW is the sweetest channel, but its so hard to get, and of course I don't get it at college.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Robbie Savage didnt deserve to go off...which just makes it even more funny :cool: have that you little cunt :lol:

awww complaining that Hughes could've broken his leg :'( poor Robbie :wavesad:

On an England note, Beckham's set pieces were poor today :|</font>
I've said it many times before, so one more time wont do any harm.

Beckham should not shoot from free kicks and he should not take penalties either. He is shit at both. We would score alot more free kicks if Beck's rolled the ball for Lampard, Gerrard or Rooney to smash, not only becuase htey have better shots but also because if Beckham knocks the ball to the side then the wall is out of position and useless.

[Rob]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">He's not brilliant. Theres tons of better midfielders than him around. He's an average premiership player. He'll put in a few okay set piece deliveries other than that the only notable thing about him is the fact he's a wind up merchant.

If he didn't spend all his time winding everybody up no one would care about him. "Robbie who?"</font>

He would walk into the Pompey team.

I have to agree with Ogen, I'd probably put him in the midfield other than Man U, Arsenal. Chelsea and Newcastle. He'd make the Liverpool midfield in my opinion.

[Team Sheep]

Okay, I was at the Wales game last night, and it was the worst Wales performance I've ever seen. They had no width, they were slow, it didn't flow, and it was just a down right terrible game to watch from a Welshman's point of view. The ref was shocking and our defense was a joke. And then, to top it all off, some cunt has a go at me in Burger King for apparently jumping the que :wtf: Well, we've gotta pull off a sneaky away win at Old Trafford now :shifty:

[Rob Ban Fan]

He would walk into the Pompey team.

I have to agree with Ogen, I'd probably put him in the midfield other than Man U, Arsenal. Chelsea and Newcastle. He'd make the Liverpool midfield in my opinion.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">He wouldn't walk into the Pompey team and theres no way he'd get anywhere near the Liverpool team.

Nigel Quashie and Richard Hughes give just as much "passion" if thats what you want to call it as Robbie Savage does and don't have to resort to winding other players up or deliberatly elbowing people. Id much rather have Eyal Berkovic threading a through ball for Yakubu, than Savage's "flair". And Amdy Faye is 10x better at tackling and winning the ball than Savage.

Maybe id have him on the bench though...actually nah, the England U21 captain pips him to that post.

Walk straight into the reserve team maybe. Although he'd be a pretty bad influence on all the youngsters.

:p</font>

[Rob]

:lol:

You know how much I love Quashie. I have barely seen anyone give more passion in a Scotland shirt in the last 10 years. I would still have Savage ahead of Quashie, Hughes, Faye (who actually wasn't good enough to replace Savage at Birmingham), and Berkovic. And speaking of that crybaby Jew, I think you just named the player who does more crying in one week than anyone in the league does in their careers. I only wish John Hartson kicked his head right of his shoulders.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Even Kevin Muscat wasn't as bad as Savage.

[yianni]

Muscat's great :D

[Rob]

Even Kevin Muscat wasn't as bad as Savage.

Okay now you are taking the piss.

[Danny Electric]

Seems like people are taking a personal vie against Savage and not a footballing view. Every game he plays he gives 100 per cent, he never gives up. He always runs back to help out the defence and also helps out attcking too. He's not the greatest of footballers but if teams like Wolves had someone like him in there side then they would have stayed up last season.
Actually no, they had Alex Rae so I'm wrong there.
Savage proved that he is a better play than Faye and he has more commietment. I think the fact that Savage cryed when he left the pitch shows how much he cared about missing the biggest game for his country and the fact that he thought he let his fellow team mates down.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">When did Savage show he is better than Faye? :|

When Amdy Faye is on form he is brilliant, he was better than Vieira last year at Highbury and bossed the midfield.

Im not denying he didnt deserve to get sent off but it makes up for every other time he has deserved to go but not been sent off and there are plenty of times.

Berkovic may be a crybaby, but unlike Savage he isnt an average, dirty, crybaby.

"Every game he plays he gives 100 per cent, he never gives up. He always runs back to help out the defence and also helps out attcking too. He's not the greatest of footballers "

You just described Nigel Quashie there. Only difference is Nigel Quashie isn a dirty crybaby.

Maybe im wrong but everytime ive seen him play, in person or on TV he has never done anything special. Elbowed a few people, kicked a few others, a few late challenges followed by a bit of crying to the referee once anyone did it back to him. Nothing great. Muzzy Izzet is the best central midfielder Birmingham have.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Seems like people are taking a personal vie against Savage and not a footballing view. Every game he plays he gives 100 per cent, he never gives up. He always runs back to help out the defence and also helps out attcking too. He's not the greatest of footballers but if teams like Wolves had someone like him in there side then they would have stayed up last season.

Actually no, they had Alex Rae so I'm wrong there.

Too fucking right :rant: