View Full Version : Rate The Wrestler - Day 26 - Lex Luger
Mister Sinister
09-16-2004, 11:28 PM
Well, The man known as Sting, proved that he is indeed a legend after his day finished, as he scored a 91, Which ties him with my Current favorite Wrestler, Chris Jericho for 4th Place. Today, His best friend in life Lex Luger tries to prove his fame
Okay, No more Explaining, Just Give What You Want, I only ask for a explantion if it's a 1 of something but since I don't care about Luger, it does not apply...Let's just have fun with this like we did when it first started, it's not like theses Rankings mean that much
Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
Day 14: John Bradshaw Leyfield (46)
Day 15: Taz (82)
Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
Day 17: Christian (83)
Day 18: Ric Flair (87)
Day 19: Jeff Jarrett (65)
Day 20: Shawn Michaels (92)
Day 21: Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat (90)
Day 22: Kevin Nash (61)
Day 23: Jushin Lyger (88)
Day 24: Brock Lesnar (78)
Day 25: Sting (91)
Current Top 10 Leaderboard
1.Bret Hart (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman, Shawn Michaels (92)
4. Chris Jericho, Sting (91)
5. Ricky Steamboat (90)
6. AJ Styles (89)
7. Jushin Lyger (88)
8. Ric Flair, Raven (87)
9. Ultimo Dragon, British Bulldog (84)
10. Christian (83)
Mic Skills: 6
Ring ability: 8
Overness: 8.5
Finisher: 8.5
Wrestling ability: 7.5
Final rating: 8
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Might I suggest "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig for the future?
KayfabeMan
09-16-2004, 11:39 PM
IMO, overall, I'd give Luger an 8.5
Mister Sinister
09-16-2004, 11:41 PM
Mic Skills: 6
Ring ability: 8
Overness: 8.5
Finisher: 8.5
Wrestling ability: 7.5
Final rating: 8
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Might I suggest "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig for the future?
You Must Of Missed it when I posted The Schedule For The Next Week in the Sting Topic?
Day 26: Lex Luger
Day 27: Curt Henning
Day 28: Gangrel
Day 29: Vader
Day 30: Jim Niedhart
Day 31: Scott Hall
Day 32: Big Vito
Day 33: Hulk Hogan
Day 38: Randy Orton
Day 39: Kane
Also you can request Wrestlers For Your Birthday's as well if it somewhat soon.
By The Way, I haven't had a good laugh like that in a long time, Luger? 7.5 For Wrestling Ability :rofl:
Innovator
09-16-2004, 11:54 PM
Mic Skills: 7
Ring ability: 6
Overness: 9.5, Made in the USA, he was awesome when I was 9
Dumbassness: 2, for giving away the WM X main event in a bar the night before
Potential: N/A
Final rating: 6.125
Savio
09-17-2004, 12:17 AM
Mic Skills: 7
Ring ability: 6
Overness: 9, Made in the USA, he was awesome when I was 9
Dumbassness: 1, for giving away the WM X main event in a bar the night before
Potential: N/A
Final rating: 5
Savio
09-17-2004, 12:20 AM
okay, After Thinking, You no longer are required for to do a Rating Chart since voting has been a little down, but there is a catch, Your Score has to be fair to be included in this rule, Each Day i'll post what I think is within the fairness Range, it all depends on which Wrestler, The More Talented in my eyes, the higher the score, the less talent, The Lower The Score will go.
Fairness Range For Lex Luger (5.5 to 8.5)
Nothing personal but I think thats stupid because its disallowing people to vote their favorite wrestler a 10 and so forth. (JMO)
Evil Vito
09-17-2004, 12:22 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Mic Skills: 8
Ring Ability: 6
Overness: 9
Childhood Mark Out Rating: 9
Overall: 8</font>
This fairness range is pretty stupid since it is totally subjective and decided by one person only. You should keep it the way you originally had it, where people had to explain if they give lower than 6.You could also add to that though and tell them to explain if they rate over 9, for instance.
CosaNostra
09-17-2004, 12:32 AM
7
FourFifty
09-17-2004, 12:45 AM
<font color=cyan>So, are we talking about "The Narcisist", "The Total Package" "The Pro USA" or "The Killer" Lex?
0, fuck him. Yes, I am being unfair. Because there's a good chance he was directly involved with the death of Lizz, fuck Lex. Count my vote, don't count it, I just want to say my peace.
IMO, overall, I'd give Luger an 8.5
Are you insane? His peers have next to nothing good to say about his work and he hasn't had anything close to a great match other than one tag match against the Steiners who would have made Steve McMichael look like Steve Austin at that time.
Loose Cannon
09-17-2004, 01:12 AM
lol, Sting tied with Jericho. Unreal. This is going to be fun rating Lugar. Basically the only time I ever liked Lugar was when he won the Title from Hogan on Nitro. Cool Moment.
(And Screw the fairness thing. They get what they get.)
Wrestling ability: 6.0
Character: 8.2
Crowd Reaction: 7.7
Work Rate: 6.2
Mic Skills: 6.0
6.8
Gouda
09-17-2004, 01:17 AM
Yeah I don't think the fairness range thing is a very good idea either.... but then again I'm just a silly old newbie.
On with the rating.
Mic Skills: 6
Work Rate: 6.5
Ring Ability: 6
Overness: 8
Memories/Potential: 6 (No potential anymore but I'll always remember him in WCW when in every match he'd pick up The Giant and the announcers would be all like "OH MY GOD!!! HE PICKED UP THE GIANT!!!! NO ONE'S EVER DONE THAT BEFORE!!!")
Overall: 6.5
BigDaddyCool
09-17-2004, 01:23 AM
Lex Luger always sucked in my books, so he will start out with a 5.
Then there is the fact that in the ring, he was always just the guy with muscles, but that was a good half of the WWF and WCW, so he goes to 4.
Plus I just don't like him, so he is a 3.
Final score, 3.
I've never heard anyone say anything good about him, so he gets no redeming points.
Mister Sinister
09-17-2004, 01:30 AM
Yeah, it does, suck, okay, things are back to normal, anything a 5.5 of below needs reason, and that's final, also for the dude with a 0, I agree, I think he had something to do with it too, I'll give him a 1 for you. Hell I would give him a 0 too
KayfabeMan
09-17-2004, 01:38 AM
Are you insane?
Yes.
Mister Sinister
09-17-2004, 01:52 AM
Overness: 9.0 (I Hate The Guy, But He Has Been A Big Name For WCW & WWF)
Wrestling Ability: 5 (No Comment, I don't Give below 5's)
Charisma: 5 (I Hated this Guys Promos)
Character(s): 6.5 (No Comment)
Look: 10 (The Guy had the Perfect, Just imagine if he had half the talent)
Potential: 5 (This Guy has Nothing Left in My Mind, He's A Has-been and proberly has no chance of returning to a major promotion)
Influence: 8 (He was part of some memorable Parts Of WCW)
Finisher: 6.5 (I Hated The Torture Rack, But A Forearm Shot...No :nono: )
Childhood Opinion: 8.5 (I Liked The Guy as a kid, since he did run with my Favorite Wrestler)
Current Opinion: 5 (Did I mention, I hate The Guy?)
Overall: 6.9
asphyXy
09-17-2004, 02:28 AM
Mic Skills: 5
Work Rate: 4
Ring Ability: 5
Finisher: 0
Overness: 7
Overall: 4.2
John la Rock
09-17-2004, 02:34 AM
6
Mister Sinister
09-17-2004, 03:19 AM
I've Changed The Rules, No Explaining, Let's Just Have Fun with this like we used too
Funky Fly
09-17-2004, 03:38 AM
Here's my breakdown.
Ring ability: 5 (he didn't totally suck, but he wasn't exactly "great" either.
Overness: 8
Work rate: 7
Politics: 8
Mic skill: 6.5
Overall rank: 6.9
Ring ability: 4
Overness: 7
Work rate: 5
Politics: 8
Mic skill: 5
Total: 5.8
Dave Youell
09-17-2004, 09:34 AM
I think Luger is one of the biggest wastes of space in wrestling history, a classic example of how a good look goes over wrestling talent.
2
Shawn Mega
09-17-2004, 10:31 AM
Are you insane? His peers have next to nothing good to say about his work and he hasn't had anything close to a great match other than one tag match against the Steiners who would have made Steve McMichael look like Steve Austin at that time.
I bet you never seen Luger before he join WWF. Luger used to be one hell of a wrestler and better than 95% of the WWE roster today. He had classic matches with Flair and Sting. Luger and Sting vs.Steiners at the first ever Superbrawl is the best non gimmick tag match ever. Flair vs.Luger at the Clash of the Champions in 91 was amazing and is a instant classic.
Ring Ability: 8.5 because he knew how to tell a story,he knew how to get the crowd involve which is the most important factor,he was simply amazing in his early days(pre-roids).
Overness: 9,this guy can show up in WWE today and draw more crowd reaction than most of the roster. He was huge in the 90's.
Work Rate: 7.5 because once he start using steroids he got lazy
Mic Skills: 8,he got the job done without having to use catchphrases
Politics:9,because he always kept himself from mid card hell
Overall- 8.4
Cruiserweight 3:16
09-17-2004, 11:10 AM
I'll rate him a 2. I think Luger has got to be one of the worst individuals to have stepped into a ring. Fair enough, guys like Hardcore Holly and JBL get plenty of stick and they deserve it, but at least they show some commitment to the business and try to put on an alright match.
Luger was more concerned about taking roids and having the perfect body rather than improving upon his wrestling ability (the little that he did have), and I have heard stories as to how he once went touring around Europe and the promoter stopped putting him in the Main-Events because he was so awful and lazy.
Loose Cannon
09-17-2004, 11:17 AM
I bet you never seen Luger before he join WWF. Luger used to be one hell of a wrestler and better than 95% of the WWE roster today. He had classic matches with Flair and Sting. Luger and Sting vs.Steiners at the first ever Superbrawl is the best non gimmick tag match ever. Flair vs.Luger at the Clash of the Champions in 91 was amazing and is a instant classic.
Ring Ability: 8.5 because he knew how to tell a story,he knew how to get the crowd involve which is the most important factor,he was simply amazing in his early days(pre-roids).
Overness: 9,this guy can show up in WWE today and draw more crowd reaction than most of the roster. He was huge in the 90's.
Work Rate: 7.5 because once he start using steroids he got lazy
Mic Skills: 8,he got the job done without having to use catchphrases
Politics:9,because he always kept himself from mid card hell
Overall- 8.4
lol, nice way to not know what you're talking about with your first sentence there. I'm tempted to argue all your points, but I think I'll let Rob do that.
Your last point about politics is funny though as you seem to not know what "Politics." are. You just expalined why Luger used politics in WCW and yet you give him a 9.
DaveWadding
09-17-2004, 11:19 AM
I bet you never seen Luger before he join WWF. Luger used to be one hell of a wrestler and better than 95% of the WWE roster today. He had classic matches with Flair and Sting. Luger and Sting vs.Steiners at the first ever Superbrawl is the best non gimmick tag match ever. Flair vs.Luger at the Clash of the Champions in 91 was amazing and is a instant classic.
Flair and Sting have track records of carrying shitty opponents to great matches.
2 for Luger.
Cool King
09-17-2004, 11:41 AM
Might I suggest "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig for the future?
Then after "Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning you can do HULK HOGAN :yes: :y:
Ring ability: 5
Overness: 8.9
Work rate: 6.8
Mic skill: 3.6
Overall rank: 6.07
Bad Company
09-17-2004, 01:19 PM
5
Eunos
09-17-2004, 01:20 PM
Also you can request Wrestlers For Your Birthday's as well if it somewhat soon.
My Bday was last monday.. Can i choose one as a late present? :)
Eunos
09-17-2004, 01:22 PM
Oh yeah and ill give Lex a 7. I remember really liking him as a kid.
JJ Moore
09-17-2004, 01:37 PM
http://perso.club-internet.fr/austinwm/HTLM/Photos/L/Lex_Luger/Lex_Luger_-_Lawrence_Pfohl_19.jpg
http://www.yourunion.co.uk/system/systempages/file/215/image/sharp7.gif
Seperated at Birth, you decide...
JJ Moore
09-17-2004, 01:39 PM
UK ppl will understand...
Mister Sinister
09-17-2004, 01:40 PM
My Bday was last monday.. Can i choose one as a late present? :)
Sure...I'll put him in between Curt Henning and Gangrel...wait a minute why am I having Gangrel so soon anyways?
Eunos
09-17-2004, 02:22 PM
Sure...I'll put him in between Curt Henning and Gangrel...wait a minute why am I having Gangrel so soon anyways?
Ok cool thanks :) Anyway i would like to see the rating of "Andre the Giant".
FakeLaser
09-17-2004, 02:40 PM
Ring Ability: 1
Charisma: 5
Mic Skills: 5
Politics: 5
Overall: 4
Luger sucks the big one. 4 is generous.
Shawn Mega
09-17-2004, 02:54 PM
It would be sad if some young guy like Orton or a guy like JBL will get a higher rating than Luger. This whole list will become a joke when legends get low ratings.
Blue Demon
09-17-2004, 03:00 PM
I give hgim a 5
Mister Sinister
09-17-2004, 03:09 PM
It would be sad if some young guy like Orton or a guy like JBL will get a higher rating than Luger. This whole list will become a joke when legends get low ratings.
Not Really, I can see Orton, Cena, and a few others getting higher then Luger, Since Luger wasn't that talented in the bit, sure you may say, this match was a Classic, but even horrible wrestlers have atleast one great match, and I kinda seen Sting, and Flair carrying Luger most of the time. This isn't just based on Overness (Which Favor Legends), as well as this isn't just based on Wrestling Ability (Which Favors Most Of The New Age Guys) but all characteristics of Wrestling.
And I'm getting very tired of people complaining about the ratings, if you don't like it, Don't Vote on them, This list was fun when it first began but now it's becaming a pain, since every day more people begin to complain about this and that. Does it Really Matter that someone who has Talent but doesn't get to use it (The Hurricane) get's a Higher Score then a Legend, who had little wrestling ability and was pushed regardless? No! Does It Matter, That Someone Ultra-Talented and may be one of the Top 5 Wrestlers in The World today, is ranked higher then A Guy who was a Top 5 Wrestler 10 years ago? Not Really, There are some rankings I don't like, but I've learned to get over them. And You should do the same. :foc: :mad: :rant:
Mister Sinister
09-17-2004, 03:30 PM
Ok cool thanks :) Anyway i would like to see the rating of "Andre the Giant".
Consider It Done
Funky Fly
09-17-2004, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pobably not gonna have computer access later tonight, so if I'm not around, get Loose Cannon to do the stickying of the next RTW.
HeartBreakMan2k
09-17-2004, 04:23 PM
Ability - 4.6
Personal bias - 3
Work Rate - 5.4
Politics - 4.7
Overness - 7.6
Mic skills - 6.2
Overall - 5.25
I bet you never seen Luger before he join WWF. Luger used to be one hell of a wrestler and better than 95% of the WWE roster today. He had classic matches with Flair and Sting. Luger and Sting vs.Steiners at the first ever Superbrawl is the best non gimmick tag match ever. Flair vs.Luger at the Clash of the Champions in 91 was amazing and is a instant classic.
Ring Ability: 8.5 because he knew how to tell a story,he knew how to get the crowd involve which is the most important factor,he was simply amazing in his early days(pre-roids).
Overness: 9,this guy can show up in WWE today and draw more crowd reaction than most of the roster. He was huge in the 90's.
Work Rate: 7.5 because once he start using steroids he got lazy
Mic Skills: 8,he got the job done without having to use catchphrases
Politics:9,because he always kept himself from mid card hell
Overall- 8.4
Oh God! Where do I start with this dude?
For the record, I watched WCW/NWA years before I watched WWE. Luger was better than 95% of the current WWE roster? DID YOU WATCH WCW BEFORE LUGER JOINED THE WWF!!! Oh God! And the award for "Most Stupid Comment on a Internet Wrestling Board" goes to.... this dude. I'd struggle hard to think of 5 workers in the WWE now that Luger was better than at his peak.
Flair vs. Luger was good but trust me, that had something to do with his opponent. The fact he hasn't had a good match since should tell you that. Flair was having great match after great match with EVERYONE at that time. Road Warrior Hawk, Dusty Rhodes, Sting, Ricky Morton, Rickey Steamboat, Brian Pillman, Ronnie Garvin, etc.
Now I'm breaking down your "breakdown"
Ring ability - I don't know what comment was worse. On one hand you think Luger was able to tell a story and on the other hand, you think he had a period he didn't do roids. HE HAS ALWAYS DONE STEROIDS!!! You think that body was ever natural? And if you think he is a 8.5, Jesus! What would you give Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair and Chris Benoit? Does this go up to 840? It better had because they are 100 times better than this douchebag.
Overness - When did Luger ever draw a buyrate in WCW or WWF? When did he ever sell out a show? He did well for his ability early in his career but it's been all downhill since 1991. The guy was scheduled to main event WrestleMania 10 with a years build up and they changed it practically at the last minute because he can't draw flies with two handfulls of sh</>it. If he should up in WWE tomorrow, nobody would know, nor care who he is.
Work rate - Get glasses and read a book pal. Pre steroids? Did you know Luger when he was 13?
Mic skills - I don't recall one good promo ever from this dude. The best of the bunch where when he was in the WBF and Vince McMahon was writing them and they were pre-recorded.
Politics - The guy was a master politician. How you can even give credit for something like this anyway is unbelievable. You should be giving credit to those who don't manipulate people, not those who do. Aside from Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, I don't know of one wrestler who did less to earn his money than this guy did.
Get the hell out of here dude. I'm done with this guy.
The New F'n Show
09-17-2004, 06:38 PM
Overness: 7.5
Wrestling Ability: 3
Charisma: 5
Look: 8
Influence: 7
Lex Luger: 6.1
Shawn Mega
09-17-2004, 07:39 PM
Oh God! Where do I start with this dude?
For the record, I watched WCW/NWA years before I watched WWE. Luger was better than 95% of the current WWE roster? DID YOU WATCH WCW BEFORE LUGER JOINED THE WWF!!! Oh God! And the award for "Most Stupid Comment on a Internet Wrestling Board" goes to.... this dude. I'd struggle hard to think of 5 workers in the WWE now that Luger was better than at his peak.
Flair vs. Luger was good but trust me, that had something to do with his opponent. The fact he hasn't had a good match since should tell you that. Flair was having great match after great match with EVERYONE at that time. Road Warrior Hawk, Dusty Rhodes, Sting, Ricky Morton, Rickey Steamboat, Brian Pillman, Ronnie Garvin, etc.
Now I'm breaking down your "breakdown"
Ring ability - I don't know what comment was worse. On one hand you think Luger was able to tell a story and on the other hand, you think he had a period he didn't do roids. HE HAS ALWAYS DONE STEROIDS!!! You think that body was ever natural? And if you think he is a 8.5, Jesus! What would you give Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair and Chris Benoit? Does this go up to 840? It better had because they are 100 times better than this douchebag.
Overness - When did Luger ever draw a buyrate in WCW or WWF? When did he ever sell out a show? He did well for his ability early in his career but it's been all downhill since 1991. The guy was scheduled to main event WrestleMania 10 with a years build up and they changed it practically at the last minute because he can't draw flies with two handfulls of sh</>it. If he should up in WWE tomorrow, nobody would know, nor care who he is.
Work rate - Get glasses and read a book pal. Pre steroids? Did you know Luger when he was 13?
Mic skills - I don't recall one good promo ever from this dude. The best of the bunch where when he was in the WBF and Vince McMahon was writing them and they were pre-recorded.
Politics - The guy was a master politician. How you can even give credit for something like this anyway is unbelievable. You should be giving credit to those who don't manipulate people, not those who do. Aside from Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, I don't know of one wrestler who did less to earn his money than this guy did.
Get the hell out of here dude. I'm done with this guy.
Luger had tons of great matches in the 80's and early 90's bitch.
You fail to respond to me when I said he got a crowd reaction during his matches. I must be right and that's all that really matter.
Overness- He was over huge,when he was a heel and face. Remember when he beat Hogan for the title in 97, the place explode.DUMBASS
Mic SKills- He never mess up or gave a boring promo. Ummm like Benoit.
How can you guys hate on a wrestler for trying to put themselves over? You said he was a master politician,which means he deserve credit. All the greats use politics. Bret,HBK,Flair,Hogan,ROck,Austin,etc. That why guys like Jericho and Benoit is stuck in mid card for most their careers because they suck when it comes to politics.
You guys are a bunch of bitches. Put this poll on a real website with smart and real fans such as 411mania.com.
Mega could you please give an example of one of his great matches that didn't involve someone who carried him like Flair or Sting who could carry a couch to a 3 star match.
Secondly if he was over as huge as you say then why did the WWE not give him the title and why did they decide that he couldn't draw so they didn't give him the title and instead they gave it to Bret.
Thirdly I didn't know that he was ever a WCW champ but if he did then I expect that the crowd reaction was due to his opponent. May I remind you that WCW fans hated Hogan with a passion. They would have gone nuts for anyone that would have beaten him.
Last but not least how can you praise people that stab others in the back to get ahead and hold them down. Bret, Rock or Austin didn't use politics at nearly the same rate as guys like Luger or Hogan. Jericho and Benoit suck at politics. My ass. Even without using politics these guys willl be remembered as guys the WWE had faith in to maek champions which can't be said for Luger and they will be remembered for being great wrestlers. What will Lex be remembered for?
Loose Cannon
09-17-2004, 08:10 PM
Terrible.
First of all, Luger got a "MEGA POP" with his win over Hogan because of the dam situation. THE nWo were killing WCW and Hogan seemed unstoppable. He had the Title for a while and everybody wanted to see him lose. So you just take anybody out of that WCW lockeroom, have him beat Hogan for the Title, and I guarantee that place would have reacted just the same. Pul El Dandy in there instaed of Luger and people would of popped like that. It's the Heat of the Moment.
Glad to see people thinking it's okay for guys to use politics. Guys should be looked down upon for doing that, not praised. Shows how much class you have.
He never messes up a promo? Do you think that's what mic skills are about. It's real easy to have someone write "I'm going to beat Hogan with everything I got" for you and not mess it up in front of the camera. Mic Skills are about grasping the audience in the palm of your hands and delievering your message in a way in which the audience can understand where your character is coming from.
I'm glad I don't belong to that other board.
Funky Fly
09-17-2004, 09:29 PM
ROFL Shawn Mega you have been severely owned.I almost feel ike closing the topic early out of pity for you. Anyway, yeah, putting in the second hard drive was cake so I'm back.
Nark Order
09-17-2004, 10:48 PM
5.2
Never liked the guy.
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