Offical Raw Thread 9/20

[The Answer]

What's going to be funny is that Orton is gonna come back just in time to RKO HHH

[Lara Emily]

What's going to be funny is that Orton is gonna come back just in time to RKO HHH


God I hope not. HHH jobbing to a guy who gets hurt my a clothesline, the World title will be meaningless, what should happen is Randy comes back hits the RKO only to have HHH kick out at 1 get up and pedigree orton for the 3.

[Loose Cannon]

What? Orton decided? NO. The booking team decided. And I can't agree that the only reason people cared about Orton was because of Trips. Again, give credit where credit is due. If I remember correctly, HHH wasn't even in the Foley feud. That was all Orton/Foley. Orton was the one leading Evolution at that time. While HHH was doing his shit with the Retart, Orton was giving great segments with Edge. That was way better then Trips and the Retart IMO. People cheered Orton because they love heels that win all the time and act cocky. Simple as that. Yeah, HHH had some to do with it, but defianately not everything

[McLegend]

Orton is great

[Mayo]

That was a nice RKO :y:

[Lara Emily]

That was ok I guess, terrible RKO though. At least HHH didn't get pinned.

[The Answer]

Well I was part right damn Flair

[Loose Cannon]

Orton is only good on the mic when he's playing a bit role backing up HHH or when HHH can carry the bulk of the promo, only reason I marginally cared about HHH vs Orton is because HHH carried the promos. When they gave Orton a chance to fly solo in promos he floundered and bored me to tears. His wrestling skills pale to HHH, he was much better in tag matches with HHH to bail him out then when he was on his own.

OMG, I guess you must of not watched the Foley, Edge, Benjamin stuff then.

[McLegend]

That was ok I guess, terrible RKO though. At least HHH didn't get pinned.
He did it with 1 arm. Thats amazing

[Hired Hitman]

http://www.hugeinternetsuperstars.com/images/articles/20040920_7_321/lita.jpg

I can just see somebody saying "Lita Blotches life" :-\

[MVP]

The only person in Evolution even close to Orton in generating crowd reaction was Flair.

[Mayo]

Lara, stop with the sarcasm :roll:

And LC, are you going along with Lara or actually being serious? :|

[Lara Emily]

What? Orton decided? NO. The booking team decided. And I can't agree that the only reason people cared about Orton was because of Trips. Again, give credit where credit is due. If I remember correctly, HHH wasn't even in the Foley feud. That was all Orton/Foley. Orton was the one leading Evolution at that time. While HHH was doing his shit with the Retart, Orton was giving great segments with Edge. That was way better then Trips and the Retart IMO. People cheered Orton because they love heels that win all the time and act cocky. Simple as that. Yeah, HHH had some to do with it, but defianately not everything

Every solo feud Orton was terribly boring and did nothing for the business, I just kept hoping he'd stick to what he does best supporting HHH. HHH makes anyone look good, look at Eugene, you think anyone else could make him look as good as HHH did? I don't think so, same with Orton. Orton didn't leave because of booking he left because he was an arrogant fool who didn't realise he was only over because he was associated to the most over wrestler in the WWE, HHH

[Gone Mad]

Flair fell funny after that nice RKO. He just plopped down after it since it was low to the ground.

Anyways, the show this week was alright. More storylines ended and others began but thank the gods the Diva Search is over! Jericho is IC champ and Lita is not preggers... the wrestling world is right again.

[Lara Emily]

He did it with 1 arm. Thats amazing

It looked terrible one arm or not.

[Loose Cannon]

WTF? Someone needs to inform me when they are using sarcasm. I can't tell on a god dam message board. :lol:

I was being serious BTW.

[asphyXy]

Randy Orton has never even wrestled before.

[Lara Emily]

The ending of that ME totaly ruined the show for me. Last thing the WWE needs is to be building up Orton as a threat, everyone knows it'll go nowhere. Evolution should have won this match easily and dominated, that's what needs to happen, HHH needs to be made to look completely unbeatable, in fact Evoltuion shouldn't job at all. This is terrible booking.

[6to1]

that was the best acting lita has ever done, she looked like she was wacked out on drugs.

[asphyXy]

Lara is 100% serious in her posts.

Nobody would carry on with dead sarcasm that long.

[Lara Emily]

WTF? Someone needs to inform me when they are using sarcasm. I can't tell on a god dam message board. :lol:

I was being serious BTW.

LC smile you're on Candid Camera :D


:D!!!! I love fucking around and arguing the exact opposite of what I believe in. I'm convincing eh? :cool:

[Lara Emily]

Lara, stop with the sarcasm :roll:

And LC, are you going along with Lara or actually being serious? :|


It wasn't sarcasm as much as me being terribly bored and deciding to argue from the vantage point of an evolution HHH mark :D, you should see me on MSN sometimes go into my Hardcore Christian Preacher Spiel.

[Mayo]

Lara is 100% serious in her posts.

Nobody would carry on with dead sarcasm that long.:love:

[Savio]

And thats terrible thinking

[Lara Emily]

Lara is 100% serious in her posts.

Nobody would carry on with dead sarcasm that long.


:shifty:

I was just waiting for someone to call me on it. I mean shit when have you ever seen me defend Triple H or anything :D

[Lara Emily]

Lara is 100% serious in her posts.

Nobody would carry on with dead sarcasm that long.


Besides what can I say, I amuse myself.

[Savio]

Next you'll say Hardcore should get another title shot........Wait thats good booking.

[Loose Cannon]

HHH makes anyone look good, look at Eugene, you think anyone else could make him look as good as HHH did? I don't think so, same with Orton. Orton didn't leave because of booking he left because he was an arrogant fool who didn't realise he was only over because he was associated to the most over wrestler in the WWE, HHH

:) I thought you were serious because you did have a reasonable point, but then this kind of gave it away.

[Lara Emily]

:) I thought you were serious because you did have a reasonable point, but then this kind of gave it away.

:D well I figured I had to go overboard :D at some point given that no one was catching on.

LOL it's why you'll notice I didn't take shots at Benoit, cause it would have given me away. What can I say I'm a great Devil's Advocate

[Lara Emily]

Next you'll say Hardcore should get another title shot........Wait thats good booking.

Want me to argue it, I probably could :D

[Rain Man]

Wait what happened tonight on Raw? I totally missed it. I was watching the Eagles beat the Vikings all night.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

http://www.hugeinternetsuperstars.com/images/articles/20040920_7_321/lita.jpg


Lita : "Snore........... Snore......... Snort..... snot....
Kane: Jesus Christ, I can't believe the high point of my career is a choice between being with someone who botches sleeping, and pretending to be someone who can't walk without tearing his quad

[Lara Emily]

Anways btw if you're wondering the only things I said about the ME that I really meant, were my comments on Orton's theme song and the RKO.

[The CyNick]

They booked Orton right this week, we'll see if they keep doing it for the next 6 months. I found it funny that Benoit is still clearly more over than any of the faces on RAW, but alas that ship has sailed.

Kane-Lita was dumb. I hate the Owen Hart sadness voice for these angles that nobody cares about. I know they are trying to sell an angle, but pick something that will draw to pull that crap off with. Anyway, Ive got tons of merch ideas for young Gene Snitski, like: "Snitski 3:16 says I just killed your baby!" Or "Snitski Abortion Clinic", or "Snitski Funeral Homes: As seen in the funeral of Gene Snitski".

HBK-Jerihco was only alright, good match, but they suffer from high standards. I actually liked the run in DQ finish, because it seemed to get some legit heat on Christian.

Christy wins, hopefully she puts aside some of that $250K because I hear its really hard and expensive to get human shit out of a gym bag full of clothes. Ah what am I saying, I'm sure she'll be treated with respect and dignity.... Still think it was rigged, they just changed who was going to win based on the crowd reactions Carmella was getting. No matter, I cant see her lasting more than 3 months.

Bout time they start doing something with Hurricane. Of course hopefully they'r something doesn't consist of a huge program with Maven or something like that.

I dont know what they did in the States, but up here there was no mention of Smackdown this week in the body of the show, which is really odd considering its a huge show and ratings have been down lately. I'm sure they ran ads, but you'd think they would have given Cole and Tazz a small spot on the show to plug SD, but hey why promote another show? That might take away from the Lita and Kane drama or a Divas Search recap.

[Took]

actually orton is over-rated. he's got nuthin. transition champ for HHH, and just to erase the lesnar age record.

shame benoit had to cough it up to that scum.

[The CyNick]

Thats not true actually.

The plan was, and as far as I know, still is, to have Orton and HHH healdine Mania for the RAW side. You can tell they still have him in their plans because he's been booked strong for the past two weeks (well pretty strong anyway). If they had no plans for him, he would have been shot down the card like Benoit was.

Now will Orton get over as a baby? I doubt it, I think they've done too much damage to him already. But at the same time, they literally have nothing else fresh that they could go to from the RAW side, unless they were to bring in outside talent. So I think they'll be trying their best to get young Randal over, I just dont think they know how to do it properly anymore.

[Champion of Europa]

Did you all see Jericho totally fuck up the ending of his match with HBK?

While HBK was doing the slow crawl, Jericho kept looking up towards where Christian was going to run in, and then when HBK got close, Jericho talked to him.

At that point, I knew something bad was gonna happen. :(

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Kane's acting skills totally made him look redeemable. Lita's facial expression totally made up for her lack of acting throughout the angle.

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Randy was getting some major face pops throughout the night. I am loving it.

[road doggy dogg]

i better see the fuckin Flair Flop tonight or im gonna be pissed off...

Okay I was watching football but read the thread to see if anything interesting happened and I saw this post. Pretty ROFL, since that's like the only thing Flair EVER does anymore

[Gouda]

Randy was great as a heel as a face I've found him extremley boring and his promos dull.

When they showed Billy Graham was there I was hoping Randy would have come out and RKO'd him. Then go on about how he is still the Legend Killer and how he will take out HHH just like all the rest.

Regarding Jericho's haircut:

*Jericho walks into Vince's office*

Jericho: Hey Vince. You wanted to see me?

Vince: How do you know my language?!

Jericho: Uhhhh...

HHH: Vince, it's Jericho.

Vince: Oh. Oh. Right. Sit down. Now Jericho... I want you to get a haircut.

Jericho: But why? My hair is part of my look.

Vince: Well you see HHH has long hair.

Jericho: And?

Vince: He should be the only one with long hair. Or else people might get them as confused. Almost as confused as they got between Shane Helms and Shane McMahon.

Jericho: Well... what about Shawn Michaels.

HHH: Oh Shawn's fine. He can keep his hair.

*HHH shares a heterosexual hug with Michaels*

Jericho: How about Edge?

HHH: Who?

Vince: Look, just cut your hair.... and while you're at it... get me a coffee.

[CosaNostra]

http://www.hugeinternetsuperstars.com/images/articles/20040920_7_321/lita.jpg


Lita, why, oh why didn't you save me any of that crack cocaine? :(

[Pegasus Crawford]

It's only a matter of time before we start hearing JR say "BAH GAWD RKO RKO RKO!"

Wait. I think he has already.

[nelioneil]

http://www.hugeinternetsuperstars.com/images/articles/20040920_7_321/lita.jpg


Lita, why, oh why didn't you save me any of that crack cocaine? :(

LOL :rofl:

Anyway, I sense a possible Hurricane heel turn after his actions on Raw.

[The Mackem]

I thought Terri Runnels lied about being pregnant but blamed D-Lo for her losing the baby and then later it all came out that she lied.

[SuperSlim]

Raw was decent.

I really hated that tag match with Victoria and Stacy vs. Molly and Trish.

KEEP STACY OUT THE RING! she is no good and really she ain't that good lookin anyway.

Hurricane is finally havin somethin done which is good but why turn a superhero bad? what's he gonna do now? Stuff dead rats in lockers? ;)

At least the main event was decent. Seein Orton run in. You knew he was gonna be comin down anyway.

Jericho vs. Shawn. They did so well at WM XIX that all their other matches despite how they good they are just don't seem that good. They are good but they just don't give off that good flava.

and sadly the Kane/Lita thing doesn't seem to be dead yet. Just the baby.

[CosaNostra]

I was hoping that they would have been stupid enough to have Kane at the hospital still in his ring atire from last week. But alas, to no avail.

[Drakul]

I thought Terri Runnels lied about being pregnant but blamed D-Lo for her losing the baby and then later it all came out that she lied.
That was Debra with Mark Henry.

[Azriel]

Debra was never with Mark Henry. Mackem's right. When Terri was with PMS, D-Lo accidentally bumped her off the apron and Terri used D-lo as a servant.

[SuperSlim]

Debra was never with Mark Henry. Mackem's right. When Terri was with PMS, D-Lo accidentally bumped her off the apron and Terri used D-lo as a servant.

yep it was another one of those stupid storylines that they put us through.

[loopydate]

You know, as bad as some of the stuff on RAW was (the further de-push of the Tag Titles, Gene Snitsky getting the longest promo of the night), the fact that the Diva Search is over and that Lita isn't "pregnant" anymore totally redeem it. Now, my two least favorite parts of RAW appear to be finished (although I'll have to look at Christy hamming it up for a year, and you just know Snitsky's going to feud with Kane over this), so I can get back to enjoying it.

And how much did Christian rule tonight?

[PorkSoda]

Can you really lose a baby by having someone fall on you?

[Azriel]

Well, at the very least, you could probably leave the kid handicapped if it was a serious enough fall.

[Savio]

Can you really lose a baby by having someone fall on you?
Durrrrrrrrr (yes)

[RGWhat316]

I dont know what they did in the States, but up here there was no mention of Smackdown this week in the body of the show, which is really odd considering its a huge show and ratings have been down lately. I'm sure they ran ads, but you'd think they would have given Cole and Tazz a small spot on the show to plug SD, but hey why promote another show? That might take away from the Lita and Kane drama or a Divas Search recap.

We got a brief mention. The SmackDown Rebound started up, then got interrrupted by "breaking news" from the hospital room, and they never went back to SD.

[RGWhat316]

Real late notes from me, since I've been on the RAW Thread as of late. Was out, and didnt get a chance to watch RAW until the Tues afternoon.

Eugene is back! I knew he wouldn't stay away for long, and now he gets to fight Bischoff. Not totally getting why Stacy is being pushed as a wrestler, pinning a former Women's champ 2 weeks in a row.

Surprised to see a possible Hurricane heel turn. I think I remember reading on the boards a little while back where they thought this would happen because of Hurricane losing. So what happened? He lost a match, and got pissed off.

Jericho/HBK was good. Looks like they are getting out of Jericho/Christian and moving on to Christian/HBK, since Christian attacked HBK more than he did Jericho.

Glad to see Christy win Diva Search. Though I thought for sure that Carmella was gonna win it. But they really gave her a kick in the ass, also with the shots taken at her such as boyfriend Jeff Garcia, and the MANDATORY initiation (possibly due to SummerSlam).

And finally the Orton character is getting better. I heard more pops tonight for him. And once he got hurt, I knew for sure he was gonna come back and win the match, and thats what happened.