Rate The Wrestler - Day 33 - "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan

[Mister Sinister]

Well I deceided to close up Big Vito day as a overall lack of interest...however he did score fairly well, with a 60....Today Wrestler is none other then the man, who may be the main reason, Wrestling has become what it is today, In Hollywood Hulk Hogan, The Man must people think of, when they hear the word Wrestling...

Also, keep in mind...I know Hogan isn't that great of a Wrestler, Which by all means, would give some people a reason to give him a 1...Listin, I know he isn't that talented in the ring...But think about his Charisma, Overness. Archivements, ETC Before you deceide to judge him a low score...because, well he has done alot for the business...

Also, No Bitching! Please, It's upsetting this poor Canadian...:(

Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
Day 14: John Bradshaw Leyfield (46)
Day 15: Taz (82)
Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
Day 17: Christian (83)
Day 18: Ric Flair (87)
Day 19: Jeff Jarrett (65)
Day 20: Shawn Michaels (92)
Day 21: Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat (90)
Day 22: Kevin Nash (61)
Day 23: Jushin Lyger (88)
Day 24: Brock Lesnar (78)
Day 25: Sting (91)
Day 26: Lex Luger (55)
Day 27: Curt "Mr. Perfect" Henning (91)
Day 28: Andre The Giant (80)
Day 29: Vader (78)
Day 30: Jim "The Anvil" Niedhart (66)
Day 31: Scott Hall (83)
Day 32: Big Vito (60)

Current Top 10 Leaderboard
1.Bret Hart (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman, Shawn Michaels (92)
4. Chris Jericho, Sting, Curt Henning (91)
5. Ricky Steamboat (90)
6. AJ Styles (89)
7. Jushin Lyger (88)
8. Ric Flair, Raven (87)
9. Ultimo Dragon, British Bulldog (84)
10. Christian, Scott Hall (83)

[Disturbed316]

10

What can I say...It's Hulk Hogan.

[Evil Vito]

10

What can I say...It's Hulk Hogan.

[Innovator]

8, past couple years have tainted the Immortal One's legacy

[Xero]

9

[DaveWadding]

6. Shitty wrestler, fucking politician, but was entertaining when I was younger.

[SuperSlim]

i would have to give him an 8

he was the man that made the sport what it is today true, but in his later years in it he is also one of the causes of some of it's destruction.

[Funky Fly]

Ring ability: 3
Overness: 10
Work rate: 7
Politics: 1
Mic skill: 10
Overall rank: 6.2

[Savio]

10 to counter DWs 6

[KayfabeMan]

1,000,000 :shifty:

Or a 10 will be fine too....

Final Score: 10

[CosaNostra]

Ring ability: 4. Punch, punch , punch, boot, leg drop, pin. Pissed me off.

Overness: 10. Really, he should be a 15. Few have ever been close or over the Hulkster in this regard

Politics: 2. Plus he's a control freak. C'mon, the guy never jobbed before the Ultimate Warrior. He held the WWF title for like, YEARS. He got better at putting people over later on, which is why he didn't get a 1.

Mic skill: 10. A genius at cutting promos, but thats because I was a Hogan mark at one time.

Value to the Industry(my new category): 10. This should be a 20. Hulk was a big player in bringing wrestling mainstream.

Overall rank: 7.2

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

3.8. He's absolutely horrible in the ring, and he's a horrible backstage politician. But there's no denying that he's extremely over, god knows how. I always found his mic skills rather dull and repetitive.

Hell, I should give him an even lower score to counter Savior's 10 that counters DW's 6, and drag the average to what I think it should be. But then again, that's a stupid idea, because everybody has a right to their opinion, and this is a simple survey to determine people's opinions, not undermine them.

People need to stop having fits over this thing, it's not like it's the end of the world if your favorite wrestler gets a low average score on a poll.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Ring ability: 5
Overness: 10
Work rate: 6
Politics: 2
Mic skill:9
Overall rank: 6.4

[Gerard]

10

What can I say...It's Hulk Hogan.

^

[CosaNostra]

C'mon guys, you can at least justify your overall 10 with some comments other than: "Its Hulk Hogan". :love:

[Shawn Mega]

Ring Ability-10, he knew how to tell a story and draw fans into his matches. He had the ability to put on great matches,just watch Mania 5. He did'nt have to put on great matches all the time because he was over,kinda like Cena.

Work rate-10, any man who wrestle full time over 45 years old gets a 10 in my booked. He always kept himself in shape.

Overness-10,Most Popular Ever

Mic Skills-10, when Hogan talk,you listen

Entertainment Factor-10,he always made me watch.

Overall-10

[Thriller]

As a man who always use to cheer for the bad guys Hogan wasnt one of my favourites.But considering what he has done for the industry and the fact we all probabally woulnt be on these boards if not for Hogan i give a 9.Losing 1 for his lack of wrestling ability.

[John la Rock]

10

Hulk Hogan made WWE the powerhouse that it is today

[asphyXy]

Ring ability: 0
Overness: 9
Work rate: 2
Politics: 0
Finisher: 0
Mic skill:5
Overall rank: 2.6

[CosaNostra]

Finisher: 0

Leg drop.

WTF

[Mister Sinister]

LOL @ Shawn Mega...10 For Hogan's Wrestling Ability....and we fought you were fucked up in the head for giving Luger a 8.5, This takes the Cake :lol:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Ability - 2
Personal bias - 4
Work Rate - 5 (He only ever shows up and tries if it's a big match)
Overness - 10
Politics - 2
Mic skills - 10

Overall - 5.5
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[Volchok]

i wish i could do a punch, boot and leg drop and be as over as Hogan was...

[El Santo]

10.

For all his faults, Hogan really is the one guy who took wrestling into the main stream.

[MVP]

Ability: 2
Work Rate: 4
Overness: 10
Politics: 1
Mic skills: 7

Overall: 4.8

[KayfabeMan]

Actually, Mega is right.

There are different types of in-ring ability. Hogan worked a very old-school type style, one that is STILL over with the fans today, and one that allowed him to have a career that is going as long as his is.

The match starts out slow, builds up, rest holds, good guy - bad guy back and forth, a few bigger spots, with heel heat - face pops, boom, the finish, and match is over. I don't think many can truly understand how that works without actually being in a ring and seeing for themselves.

Sure, Hogan wasn't Hart in the ring (but he could take care of himself if needed), and on the same token, Hart wasn't Hogan either. Macho Man is no Benoit, but Benoit isn't Macho Man either (although Savage could wrestle a bit as well).

Same thing with tag teams, how LOD weren't WRESTLERS (very few are, if ever) - but they had excellent in ring skills and psychology. The Nasty Boys again,although clumsy at times,had skills enough to tell stories and keep people entertained. Neither of those teams are The Steiners (c. 1980's / early-mid 1990's), but The Steiners weren't LOD.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yes, there are different styles of wrestling. It just so happens that the type he uses bored me shitless. So he gets a low score from me.

[CosaNostra]

I remember a skit that Vince Mcmahon arranged when Randy Savage and Hulk were in WCW and mocked them using impersonators. The Hulk impersonator said "I'm HULK and I NEVER lose".

Everything was about HIM. Sure, he was the biggest thing going at the time, but there are other guys working too. The wrestling industry is bigger than any one guy, even if it is Hulk Hogan. I just can't justify giving a guy like that a perfect score.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I'd say 5.8 Now the reason I am giving him a low score is because I don't really know too much about his early days I know about the Hulk Hogan who was in WWE who fought Rock at Wrestlemania. I didn't see Hogan in WCW or anytime before then, But I did see him picking up and slamming Andre for his first WWF title. ANd If you ask me that's quite the accomplishment. He's had his own cartoon. He was way way way over and his promos were top notch. I got to give the man some credit. The reason I'm not giving him more is I don't too much about the past Hogan and one more thing. Judging by the DVD, Hogan is really a nice guy to all his fans.

[Mayo]

9

[CosaNostra]

It would have been decent of him to put over Andre clean, just once.

[Shawn Mega]

If AJ Styles or Pillman gets a higher score than Hogan, something is really wrong. Alot of people on here don't have common sense.

I don't care about the stupid rating system no more.
TOP 5 Wrestlers of ALL TIME
1.Austin
2.Hogan
3.Flair
4.Mick Foley
5.The Rock

[Goulet]

It would have been decent of him to put over Andre clean, just once.
Andre beat Hogan clean twice before Hogan had the title... Shea Stadium in '81 I believe was one of the times...

anyways I gave him a 10, because nobody has done what Hogan has for wrestling, no matter how shitty he is in the ring

[V]

10

EAT YOUR VITAMINS

[Gerard]

If AJ Styles or Pillman gets a higher score than Hogan, something is really wrong. Alot of people on here don't have common sense.

I don't care about the stupid rating system no more.
TOP 5 Wrestlers of ALL TIME
1.Austin
2.Hogan
3.Flair
4.Mick Foley
5.The Rock


Probably should be under another subject, top 5 "sports entertainers" then top 5 wrestlers (technical side).

[HeartBreakMan2k]

If AJ Styles or Pillman gets a higher score than Hogan, something is really wrong. Alot of people on here don't have common sense.

I don't care about the stupid rating system no more.
TOP 5 Wrestlers of ALL TIME
1.Austin
2.Hogan
3.Flair
4.Mick Foley
5.The Rock
If you consider Mick Foley a wrestler, then you're nuts. He's a spot machine. He can have a great match when he's carried to one (ie: Shawn Michaels). Don't get me wrong, I'd rate him highly but that's bias. Hogan couldn't lace
wrestler's boots.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Probably should be under another subject, top 5 "sports entertainers" then top 5 wrestlers (technical side).
:y: And even then Hogan wouldn't be in my top 5.

[Took]

Hogan deserves this 5.3 he's recieving from me. They go mostly for what he has accomplished and done for the industry. Otherwise, if they didn't count for shit, he'd get about just that..shit all.

[Shawn Mega]

If you consider Mick Foley a wrestler, then you're nuts. He's a spot machine. He can have a great match when he's carried to one (ie: Shawn Michaels). Don't get me wrong, I'd rate him highly but that's bias. Hogan couldn't lace
wrestler's boots.

Mind Games vs. FOley was HBK greatest match ever. Foley did most of the work in that match.

Foley greatest match can be debated from his WCW days. In my opinion, Foley vs. HHH in a Hell In A Cell is his greatest match ever.

You trying to tell me that this whole list is based on In-Ring skills. It seems like everybody is judging on overall performances. Which one is it?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Mind Games vs. FOley was HBK greatest match ever. Foley did most of the work in that match.

Foley greatest match can be debated from his WCW days. In my opinion, Foley vs. HHH in a Hell In A Cell is his greatest match ever.

You trying to tell me that this whole list is based on In-Ring skills. It seems like everybody is judging on overall performances. Which one is it?First of all, I'll be damned if that was Shawn Michaels' best match. Second of all, Mick Foley himself said that was his greatest match.

And no, the whole list is not based on in ring skill. It's based on a number of things, Hogan isn't the best overall. He may be the best flat out entertainer, but he loses a ton of points based on in ring talent, work rate and politics to me. Most people don't see politics the way you do, they are bad to most. Plus Hogan didn't bust his ass unless it was a big match that would up his stock.

[Champion of Europa]

10

What can I say...It's Hulk Hogan.

[FakeLaser]

Ring Ability: 2
Charisma: 10
Politics: 2
Mic Skills: 10
Overall: 6

[Mister Sinister]

Okay...I asked Nicely. but of course, most of you in here, have a problem listening...I said no Bitching....

Listen if you think Hogan or Stone Cold are the best Wrestlers ever, then more power to you, Hell if someone thinks JBL is the best wrestler today, hey, whatever, I'm a firm beleiver of if you like something, go with it. But I also hate it when someone tries to play off there opinions onto other people...Everyone has there own Preference...Me personally, I love Cruiserweight matches above all else, but that doesn't mean I don't like a good Technical Fest...Hell while I think they were shitty ass Wrestlers, I still mark out and are entertained when Hogan hulks up, Does the Finger Point, Big Boot, Legdrop, Or when Warrior shakes the ropes, Pumps up, Clothlines everything insight and proceeds to Press Slam and Splashes people...

Listin, if you think Hogan deserves a 10, I'm not going to complain with it. I might joke around casually about it, but other then that, I normally don't say anything about rankings unless I agree with them...

Like I said before, Everyone has there own Preference, if you asked 20 Wrestling Fans, from different areas, who they think are the best top 5 Wrestlers in history, you would proberly get atleast 40 different Wrestlers if not more....and remember there are people on theses boards from different regions, which most likely then not follow everything in the states, I mean, In American, people will say Hogan was the best, in Canada you would most likely hear most say Hart is the best, While in Japan, they might argue and say someone like Hayabusa, Jushin Lyger, Great Muta or Antonio Inoki are the best wrestler....

Of Course, there is the thing of different rating charts, and Perference...Some People base there own Archivements and Status, While Others do it based upon Pure Talent...and you even have thoses who look at Indy Wrestlers and think, and grade people like AJ Styles on Potential, As in, if they were given the chances like the Hogan, Lugers and Flair had, how would they do...We'll all different, and we are have different tastes...so let's stop the bitching about what people rate what....If you don't like how outcomes town out...Then go do your own thread...I Respect everyone decesion, which is why I count everyvote, even if I don't agree with half of them....Most Of us have accepted the overall grading of Wrestlers, so why don't you, if you can't do that, please Shut The Fuck Up and get the fuck outta here :foc: :mad: :foc: :mad: :foc: :mad: :foc: :mad: :foc: :mad: :foc:

[damn tekno]

I'm suprised no one has nominated TAKER to be rated

[BigDaddyCool]

Hulk F'n Hogan. What can be said that hasn't been said? The guy is a pompus ass. He abused steriods. He testified against the company that made him (and the company he helped make). He was/is the biggest politation ever, just look at that Wrestlemainia where everyone was in the togas. He wasn't even in the mainevent and got the World Title, baffling. He has held down more people that the Kliq ever could. He is doesn't know a wrist watch from a wrist lock.

So I give him a firm 10.

What can I say, he made wrestling what it is. For all his fault, those won't be remebered. What will be remeber are the birth of WWF, the birth of Wrestlemainia, the emergance of WCW, the nWo, the death of WCW. Almost all of the biggest events in wrestling's modern history he had a hand in. Even WWF's Attidude Era. If Hogan never pissed off Austin, Austin wouldn't have gone to ECW, and wouldn't have gone to WWF, and would never have become Stone Cold. For good or bad, Hogan played a role in every event in modern wrestling history.

So 10.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Okay...I asked Nicely. but of course, most of you in here, have a problem listening...I said no Bitching....
Sorry. I honestly wasn't trying to bitch, just discuss and understand his opinions. I probably came off a bit to argumenitive, I'll admit to that. If you don't want there to be discussion about the ratings, that's cool; I'll stop discussing and just post my score.

[Azriel]

Definitely a 10. I can't imagine a WWE today without Hogan. He gets top honors from me.

[Mister Sinister]

I don't mind discussion, just some of you, seem to be more along the lines of bitching...I wasn't really referring to you, but more along Shawn Mega and BigDaddyCool....but I can understand where BDC is coming from, but Shawn Mega, seems to me like he is trying to force his opinions onto people like his shit doesn't stink, then again that may be me....After All I'm just a 19 Year Old who isn't getting any....Someone Buy Me A hooker!


Anywayz, On Subject...
Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Remember I don't rate anything under a 5, even if they deserved it)

Wrestling Ability: 5
Wrestling Style (How They Work It): 10
Mic Skills: 9
Overness: 10
Finisher: 8 (What Can I Say, I liked It ^_^)
Backstage: 6 (Held People Down...but begin to put people over)
How I Like Them: 10 (Like I said, I mark out for Hogan)
Archivements: 10

Overall - 8.5 (Lack Of Overall Ability and his Holding Down, Hurt his Grade)

[Mister Sinister]

Sorry. I honestly wasn't trying to bitch, just discuss and understand his opinions. I probably came off a bit to argumenitive, I'll admit to that. If you don't want there to be discussion about the ratings, that's cool; I'll stop discussing and just post my score.

I don't mind discussion, just some of you, seem to be more along the lines of bitching...I wasn't really referring to you, but more along Shawn Mega and BigDaddyCool....but I can understand where BDC is coming from, but Shawn Mega, seems to me like he is trying to force his opinions onto people like his shit doesn't stink, then again that may be me....After All I'm just a 19 Year Old who isn't getting any....Someone Buy Me A hooker!


Anywayz, On Subject...
Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Remember I don't rate anything under a 5, even if they deserved it)

Wrestling Ability: 5
Wrestling Style (How They Work It): 10
Mic Skills: 9
Overness: 10
Finisher: 8 (What Can I Say, I liked It ^_^)
Backstage: 6 (Held People Down...but begin to put people over)
How I Like Them: 10 (Like I said, I mark out for Hogan)
Archivements: 10

Overall - 8.5 (Lack Of Overall Ability and his Holding Down, Hurt his Grade)

[Bad Company]

10

What can I say...It's Hulk Hogan.
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[LK]

8.5

[The Fugitive]

I'm so tempted to give him a 0. But I'll try and give the guy some credit, therefore I'll use Helmsphere's rating system.

Wrestling Ability: 7. He knows how to tell a story, but I've never really been a fan of the oldschool style.

Mic Skills: 5. I heard maybe one, two promos, so I can't really judge but they were okay and the crowd seem to go nuts and hang onto every word.

Overness: 10. He's pretty much a household name.

Finisher: 0. Pfft. Come on, it's a fricken leg drop. That is just as bad as the Worm and the People's Elbow.

Backstage: 4. Don't know anything factual but I heard that he was notorious for refusing to job to some wrestlers.

How I Like Them: 2. I think the only time I've ever reacted positively to Hulk is once when he did that 'YOU!!!' point and shake finger taunt.

Archivements: 10. If there was a totem pole for wrestling, he'll definitely be on it. He drew people to wrestling and he's considered a legend of wrestling.

That averages to 4.8. Hmm, I'll round it to a 5.

So yeah, final tally, 5.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

I'll give him a 10 - the guy has done his job as a wrestler really well, despite not having proficient technical skills.

[CosaNostra]

Andre beat Hogan clean twice before Hogan had the title... Shea Stadium in '81 I believe was one of the times...



I know that. That was when Andre had the big hair.

I meant while Hogan had the title.

[Cool King]

10

He’s the best wrestler ever! :yes:

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

I know that. That was when Andre had the big hair.

I meant while Hogan had the title.

If Hogan had jobbed cleanly to Andre whilst as champion, he would have lost the momentum he had. At least he did drop the title to Andre

[Sephiroth]

9.5

[CosaNostra]

If Hogan had jobbed cleanly to Andre whilst as champion, he would have lost the momentum he had. At least he did drop the title to Andre
Momentum? 5 years is quite the "momentum". :)

[Shawn Mega]

I don't mind discussion, just some of you, seem to be more along the lines of bitching...I wasn't really referring to you, but more along Shawn Mega and BigDaddyCool....but I can understand where BDC is coming from, but Shawn Mega, seems to me like he is trying to force his opinions onto people like his shit doesn't stink, then again that may be me....After All I'm just a 19 Year Old who isn't getting any....Someone Buy Me A hooker!


Anywayz, On Subject...
Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Remember I don't rate anything under a 5, even if they deserved it)

Wrestling Ability: 5
Wrestling Style (How They Work It): 10
Mic Skills: 9
Overness: 10
Finisher: 8 (What Can I Say, I liked It ^_^)
Backstage: 6 (Held People Down...but begin to put people over)
How I Like Them: 10 (Like I said, I mark out for Hogan)
Archivements: 10

Overall - 8.5 (Lack Of Overall Ability and his Holding Down, Hurt his Grade)

I was ok until you said something. So I had to defend myself and my opinions. Who was the first one to complain about my ratings? YOU!!!!!!!!!!

[Shawn Mega]

Momentum? 5 years is quite the "momentum". :)

Taking the title off Hogan would of been a bad business move. It's not like today when you change title like 6 times a year for one belt.

[sensai86]

Definitely a 10. I can't imagine a WWE today without Hogan. He gets top honors from me.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Momentum? 5 years is quite the "momentum". :)

Andre did manage to beat Hogan for the title... it's not as if Hogan held the guy down. By the time Andre received the belt, his health was deteriorating and his body could barely cope with the weight, so it's not as if he could do much with the belt anyway

[BigDaddyCool]

You know, this is a discussion board. There is bound to be arguments...or what you call bitching. I'm just saying that is the nature of the boards.

[CosaNostra]

Andre did manage to beat Hogan for the title... it's not as if Hogan held the guy down. By the time Andre received the belt, his health was deteriorating and his body could barely cope with the weight, so it's not as if he could do much with the belt anyway

I already know that not many people are going to agree with my view point, so I'm probably beating a dead horse here.

He didn't "beat" Hogan for the title. The work was a "screwjob" by a referee and Ted Dibiase where Andre just gave the title to Dibiase 30 seconds later. Hogan didn't job the title clean.

I realize that Andre couldn't do much with the belt because of his condition. That is why it could have been a really short title reign, maybe 30 days or whatever and then Hogan could take it back at a Wrestlemania. Just something significant to pay tribute to a guy who was such an icon in the business before the end of his career. If anyone should have held the title, even for a very short while, Andre the Giant was one of them. Hogan could have exhibited some more class and given that little bit to him at least.

[Gerard]

I already know that not many people are going to agree with my view point, so I'm probably beating a dead horse here.

He didn't "beat" Hogan for the title. The work was a "screwjob" by a referee and Ted Dibiase where Andre just gave the title to Dibiase 30 seconds later. Hogan didn't job the title clean.

I realize that Andre couldn't do much with the belt because of his condition. That is why it could have been a really short title reign, maybe 30 days or whatever and then Hogan could take it back at a Wrestlemania. Just something significant to pay tribute to a guy who was such an icon in the business before the end of his career. If anyone should have held the title, even for a very short while, Andre the Giant was one of them. Hogan could have exhibited some more class and given that little bit to him at least.

Im gonna assume back then that decision would be upto mcmahon and not hogan. Even if hogan had some say in it bottom line is mcmahon would have the final word in the decisions.

[CosaNostra]

Right. I should have mentioned McMahon in there too obviously. :$

[Mister Sinister]

I don't mind discussion, I'm just kinda just talking about complaining over the rankings of Wrestlers, that's all...as in someone beleiving his list is the Universal should be list off all time, but then again, that's maybe just me...

[Gouda]

*skips all the long text and casts his rating*

Ring ability: 4
Overness: 10
Work rate: 5
Charisma: 10
Finisher: 0 (I just HATE that leg drop)
Mic skill:7
Memories/Potential: 10

Overall: 6.5

[blueskies]

Couldn't give him anything more than an 8.5

[Bad Company]

I don't mind discussion, I'm just kinda just talking about complaining over the rankings of Wrestlers, that's all...as in someone beleiving his list is the Universal should be list off all time, but then again, that's maybe just me...
I agree, but you can't stop the smarts.

[Eunos]

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