Rate The Wrestler - Day 38 - Randy Orton

[Mister Sinister]

Well, Steve Corino who is a former NWA and ECW World Heavyweight Champion didn't have things go his way as he scored a 73, which still puts him ahead of a few other world champions, but not enough to get him within the Top 10...Today wrestler of the day was requested by someone, I meant to take a note of who it was, but oh well, Today Wrestler of the day is bought to you by (Insert Name Here) who also is celebrating his birthday, So Happy B-Day (Insert Name Here)

Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
Day 14: John Bradshaw Leyfield (46)
Day 15: Taz (82)
Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
Day 17: Christian (83)
Day 18: Ric Flair (87)
Day 19: Jeff Jarrett (65)
Day 20: Shawn Michaels (92)
Day 21: Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat (90)
Day 22: Kevin Nash (61)
Day 23: Jushin Lyger (88)
Day 24: Brock Lesnar (78)
Day 25: Sting (91)
Day 26: Lex Luger (55)
Day 27: Curt "Mr. Perfect" Henning (91)
Day 28: Andre The Giant (80)
Day 29: Vader (78)
Day 30: Jim "The Anvil" Niedhart (66)
Day 31: Scott Hall (83)
Day 32: Big Vito (60)
Day 33: Hollywood Hulk Hogan (82)
Day 34: Jerry Lynn (83)
Day 35: Kurt Angle (96)
Day 36: Mick Foley (88)
Day 37: Steve Corino (73)

Current Top 10 Leaderboard
1.Bret Hart, Kurt Angle (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman, Shawn Michaels (92)
4. Chris Jericho, Sting, Curt Henning (91)
5. Ricky Steamboat (90)
6. AJ Styles (89)
7. Jushin Lyger, Mick Foley (88)
8. Ric Flair, Raven (87)
9. Ultimo Dragon, British Bulldog (84)
10. Christian, Scott Hall, Jerry Lynn (83)

[Mr. Nerfect]

8. He's VERY entertaining on the mic, great ring skills. He's not at 9 or 10 level, but he's still in the excellent area. It seems he has good matches on shows like RAW and non-televised events, but he has great matches on PPV. Orton still has a chance to improve his mark with me. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a 9 or a 10 in a few months (maybe around WrestleMania 21 time).

[blueskies]

he's about a 7.5.. but i'm sure that in the near future.. he'll move up to be an 8.5-9.. but as of now.. i only see him as a 7.5

[Xero]

8

[MVP]

Ability: 7
Work Rate: 9
Overness: 9
Politics: N/A (I'm not sure what he's like backstage so I can't judge)
Mic Skills: 7.5 (last night gave him some bonus points)

Overall: 8.1

[Kalyx triaD]

8

I watched him like a scout during his Smackdown! era, even his first match when Buatista murdered him with a clothesline then a spinebuster. I enjoyed his Flying Crossbody for some reason, maybe because of the Frog thrust he added... I don't know how, but he brought glory to the Diamond Cutter like no other before him. Dare I say, he uses it better than DDP. That's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.

[KayfabeMan]

5

He doesn't really do much for me. He has the name and resembles his father in looks, and also has a third thing in common with his 'pops' - he's way overrated. Bob Orton was a good worker, but not as good as he's made out to be, and Randy Orton is not even a solid portion of his dad.

Average - and, on a side note, his punches (and selling) need lots of work.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

7.5 I have always been a fan of the man who brought the sweetest letters into the WWE today The R K O. I think this guy in years to come will blow up huge.

[Funky Fly]

Ring ability: 7.5
Overness: 8 (he gets big pops, but he's not all the way there yet)
Work rate: 8.5
Politics: 10
Mic skill: 8.5 (after last night, he moved up a whole point)
Overall rank: 8.5

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Ring ability: 7.5
Overness: 7.5
Work rate: 8.5
Politics: 10
Mic skill: 8
Overall rank: 8.3

[PorkSoda]

He can sell very well and his in ring work is very impressive. He also has alot of charisma and can get over with the crowd with his poses and such so I'll give him an 8.5

[Joe Kerr]

9


and I will Laugh If LC goes through and makes everyone say 10

[Splaya]

Ring ability: 9
Overness: 9.5
Work rate: 9
Politics: 10
Mic skill: 10
Overall rank: 9.5

[Blue Demon]

8.5

Good all around wrestler. Still room for improvement but he's still young so he has time.

[Evil Vito]

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[John la Rock]

9

Very very good but he needs more experience

[Gouda]

Ring ability: 8 (He's rekindled my love for the chinlock, but could use a bit more experience)
Overness: 9
Work rate: 8
Charisma: 9
Finisher: 10 (RKO from nowhere! All good finishers come from nowhere)
Mic skill: 7 (I thought he was good as a heel, but as a face he's been really kinda bad)
Memories/Potential: 10 (Lots of potential here if they stop booking him like a loser)

Overall: 8.5

[V]

too early to judge him, but damn, being there live seing him win the title, that's the first time i've ever witnessed anything like that live, and i'm never going to forget how hard i cheered

9.9

[Volchok]

10...

[Gone Mad]

After last night's show, 8.4. This kid is the future of the business.

[Mayo]

8.5 He is still young, and that is why he doesn't get a higher rating. He's got potential, thats for sure.

[Innovator]

8.7, same score as Raven, two below the real future of the business

[I-Hate-You]

All Flair had to do was yell "Shut up, fatboy." and he would have won the argument with Orton last night.

[sensai86]

8.5

R.K.O!!!

[DaveWadding]

7.7

[Aussie Skier]

Ring ability: 8. I loved his match against foley. He seems like an everage worker, similar to the Rock
Overness: 8. Is getting over good (altho not as good as before summerslam)
Work rate: 8.
Finisher: 9.5. Top class finisher!
Mic skill:10. Brilliant on the mic!

Overall rank: 8.7

[KayfabeMan]

LOOK - IT'S THE MIZ' :shifty:

Someone that I know will read this and get that (in other words, it's an inside remark). Thank you.

[Bad Company]

6
I think he's overrated

[BigDaddyCool]

5, the kid really has yet to impress me. He has been pushed to the moon and back, and has done nothing to deserve it.

[KayfabeMan]

Thank you.

[Kapoutman]

Wrestling: 7
Work Rate: 8
Charisma/Mic Skills: 8
Entertainment: 8

Overall: 7.75, rounded to 7.8

[Aussie Skier]

Brilliant concept by Helmsphere, which he should be rep'd on (i've rep'd him a few times).


I'm jsut curious as to who you people feel are over and/or under rated on the list.

For me:
Owen Hart, 92%:
is a real surprise. He had heaps of talent, but without winning the world title or having any memorable runs with a belt, I find it hard 2 c how he rated quite so highly.
Raven, 87%:
I havent seen alot of Raven, but 87% seems to be extremely high. Maybe I need to watch a bit more of him.
Hulk Hogan, 82%:
He is pro wrestling. I missed this vote, and altho i never really was a hogan fan, I'd still have given him a 9.5 for what he has done.
Ric Flair, 87%:
Equal with Raven, quite a bit less than Bret, Owen and Angle. I think Flair was a bit undervalued.


opinions on others?

[Molly fan 25]

Brilliant concept by Helmsphere, which he should be rep'd on (i've rep'd him a few times).
I'm jsut curious as to who you people feel are over and/or under rated on the list.
For me:
Hulk Hogan, 82%:
He is pro wrestling. I missed this vote, and altho i never really was a hogan fan, I'd still have given him a 9.5 for what he has done.
opinions on others?
I'd agree with you on Hogan, and personally I don't see how anyone can say anything bad about him as a pro wrestler. People don't understand that pro wrestling is not about the ability to wrestle it's about the ability to put on a show, and Hogan was phenomenol at putting on a show.

[Mister Sinister]

<center>http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pic/r/randyorton/13.jpg

Name: Randy Orton
Real Name: Randy Orton
Age: 24 Year Old
Finishing Move: RKO
Years Pro: 3 Years
Archivements: WWE World Heavyweight Champion, WWE Intercontinetal Champion


Overness: Orton has risen alot over the past year...after a somewhat disapointing debut in the WWE, it seemed Orton was going to be sent back down to Ohio Valley Wrestling and labeled as a failure, then he was given another chance as he was traded to Raw and given the All-American third generation gimmick and picking up a few wins...beating, Stevie Richards, Lance Storm and Christian in a 2 week span, even beating the later two in a row..however he tore his shoulder, attempting his finisher which he botched (The O-Zone aka Elix Skipper Overdrive/Play Of The Day) He would return with the RNN segments, in which the fans begin to boo him, Orton played on the Heel segments...He returned and almost instantly joined Evolution..and in his first match back, Him and his Tag Team partner...Batista both get injured...Orton is out of Action for several months, until he made his return attacking Kevin Nash and then helping Flair and Triple H destroy Shawn Michaels...It was shortly after this Orton begin to call himself the Legend Killer when he nailed HBK with a chair and helped Flair defeat Michaels...Orton then begin to fued with HBK where at Unforgiven 2003, defeated Michaels...Orton would continue to kill legends in Sgt. Slaughter, Mualah...Then at Survivor Series, he pinned HBK once again, which caused Stone Cold to lose his job as General Manager of Raw, and added Austin to another legend killed by Orton....Orton getting big wins and a push, deceided to challenge Intercontinental Champion Rob Van Dam, consider by many to be a legend from ECW...and it was then Randy Orton won his first Title...Orton next challenge would be his toughest to date, as he turned his attention to Future Hall Of Famer Mick Foley, a fued that lasted from December to March, and it was because of Foley, Orton who entered the Royal Rumble second, was eliminated late within it. Orton finally got a match with Foley, however it wasn't a 1 on 1 encounter but a 3 on 2 Handicap Match, which saw Orton catching Foley off guard who was about to lock on the Mandible Claw, with a RKO for a quick victory, it setted up a rematch at Backlash, which saw Orton taking from severe bumps including falling backfirst on a bunch of thumbstacks, getting hit with Barbed Wire and being throw off the stage with Thumbtacks still in his back thru a table...a bloody Orton hit a RKO on a Barbed Wire bat to send Foley home once again...The Next night on Raw, Orton cut a Promo, which resulted in Orton getting Face Pops for the first time in his heel run, for the next few months, Orton would retain his title over Shelton Benjamin, Edge, Chris Jericho among others, Before finally losing the Title after 7 months to Edge..Orton would get another chance at the title and had a 4 Star Match with Edge on Raw..The next week, Orton won a Battle Royal to challenge for the World Heavyweight Title, Orton then claimed it was his destiny to win the the World Heavyweight Title at Summerslam and he did just that, ending Chris Benoit 5 Month Title Reign...Orton would defend the title the next night against Benoit and retain but was kicked out of Evoltion, Orton turned face, and was getting over...it could be argued that he is Raw top face..He last the Title 3 Weeks later, and here to the day...He is consider one of the top Wrestlers in the WWE...and he did so in a very short span on 2 1/2 years.

Score: 9.


Look: What Can I say, Randy Orton has the look of someone you want in your company, he has that cocky smile, great body...Some Superstars just have that special look about him, and Randy Orton has it...okay that all I have to say about this

Score: 10


Talent: Orton who I was able to catch in OVW, was a god in the ring, which is sorta hard to beleive considering how I had to watch his skills die down and adjust to the WWE style of wrestling, His matches when he debut were better in my opinion then what it was about a year ago, He had the best Cross Body in the business (Very Steamboat like in my mind) his Dropkicks were beautiful, and had some decent matches with Lance Storm, and even had a pretty good match with the Undertaker (By Normal Taker standards) however they were still nothing great, then began his Legend Killer push, he had a decent match w/ HBK at unforgiven last year (Sub Par by HBK standards) He would continue to have sub par matches with RVD, Booker T and others...However Orton, did shows some signs of Improvement in a rematch with RVD for the IC, however he would continue to disapoint somewhat, However had what many consider his first great singles match in the WWE v. Mick Foley at Backlash, it wasn't your typical wrestling match, but a Hardcore Match, which saw Orton takes some bad bumps and spots, it didn't prove Orton could wrestle but it showed he was willing to do stuff for the fans and business...however it seemed this match sparked something in Orton, no longer was producing Sub-Par matches but was getting better each week, having above average and even great matches with Benjamin, Jericho and Edge, it may of been just because he had better oppenents, he would continue to improve and had what I consider a 4 Star classic with Edge on Raw after losing the IC Title..and had another great match with Benoit that involved him winning the World Title...in Closing, I think Orton has talent and will begin to slowly show it more and more....Last Year I would of rated him a 7 In Talent, but after his improvement, he get's a 8 from me.

Score: 8


Mic Skills: Well, I'm not really great about discussion Promos, so i'll won't discuss this much...Orton does seem like he is getting really confiedent on the mic and is beginning to show improvement, espically with his Promo with Ric Flair on Raw this past week...

Score: 7.5


Archivements: Well, He's only been in the WWE for just over two years and hasn't had much time to gain many archivements, however he has made the most of thoses two and a half years, and in thoses two years, he's gained pinfall Victories over Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Ric Flair, Booker T and Rob Van Dam, he also had two title reigns including a World Heavyweight Title Reign, he's been part of one of the most sucessful stables in recent years...He hasn't had the great archivements of a Ric Flair or Bret Hart, but however he will in time, and you can't compare him to thoses legends since he is still very early in his career, So for the two years he been in the business, I'll give him a 8.5.

Score: 8.5


Potential: He is being praised as the Future of the industry and for good reason, He has the look, his in-ring skills are improving, as are his Mic Skills, and now the fans are beginning to flock to him, he has archived so much, in so little time...and while the fans were resenting his push a year ago, thoses very same people are the one praising him...Orton always talks about Destiny and I beleive we have one on our hands in him...That's why he scores a 10

Score: 10


Finisher: He uses the Diamond Cutter, a move known to get heat because it can be hit from almost anywhere, just like the Stunner, a move that help make Stone Cold Steve Austin so over...Orton however for the longest times, failed to do the move correctly and still messes up from time to time, as in doing it one handed, and sometimes, even completely missing his oppenent with it, however, while it may just be the Diamond cutter, he has added his own uniqueness to it, as in Floating in mid air when he hits it, and hitting it out of no where, much like DDP, however he has had some great Counters, including the one he used on Benoit to win the title at Summerslam

Score: 7.5


Overall: 8.6</center>

[Azriel]

8.5

[Mr. Nerfect]

That was really well done, Helmsphere. I'd give him an 8-9 on achievements, and an 8 in promo ability, however. But that's just me.

[LK]

8.9

[Funky Fly]

Post this in the thread itself.

-EDIT- I've decided to be nice and merge the threads instead of flat out closing this one. It'll save you the trouble of re-posting. BTW, if you haven't figured it out yet, if I post in blue, it means mod powers are involved.

[Mister Sinister]

That was really well done, Helmsphere. I'd give him an 8-9 on achievements, and an 8 in promo ability, however. But that's just me.


Yep, I can sorta agree with that, but each his own

[TheNamelessOne]

5

He is fairly average in the ring, boring, wooden and unoriginal on the mic, and his gimmick is merely a complete copy of the egotist gimmick that has been used over the years.

Granted, he has a lot of potential, but there are a dozen workers in the WWE who aren't main eventing that could pull off his gimmick and push a hell of a lot better at this moment in time.

[123 kid]

8.3

[Sephiroth]

8.5

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

7 - I think this guy's got a lot of potential, but I don't think he deserved to be beyond a 7 because he hasn't put on that many memorable matches yet

[SuperSlim]

Orton... to you I give an 8.5

you still young in the biz therefore you don't have enough years behind ya to look back on unlike the other guys.

[Savio]

8

[The Answer]

too early to judge him, but damn, being there live seing him win the title, that's the first time i've ever witnessed anything like that live, and i'm never going to forget how hard i cheered

9.9

I feel the same way watching a WWE event live for the first time and seeing him win the title was somethig im never gonna forget. 9.9 rating

[Eunos]

8.5

Randy Orton

[Loose Cannon]

I will get the last say. Thank you.

Ring Work: 8.8 Orton has improved dramatically since his first stint in the WWE. I knew he would as everyone else was busy criticizing him for blowing spots, I knew one day soon he would be great. I say he's in the Top 5 right now in the WWE with in-ring work.

Mic Skills: 7.9 Again, he improved dramatically over the year. The Flair Promo, like everyone else said was pure right on the money. He also had a few great promos against Edge and Foley.


Work Rate: 9.1 He goes out there and gives everything he has. And if you watch, he sells like a mother fucker. Sometimes I think he sells wayy to much because it looks like he's really hurting himself. He's young, so he shouldn't sell really crazy right now.


Crowd Reaction: 8.5 Was force fed to the crowd at first, but soon the crowd grew to love him as a heel. He's getting better reactions every week as a babyface, but still not that great.

Character: 9.0 What can I say here. He kept me interested in all of his segments throughout the year as the "Legend Killer." He was perfect for the role and he played it great. His mannerisms at times are second to none. He seems to know how to improve and feed off of how other wrestlers react. This is one element very few wrestlers have anymore.


Final: 8.6

[Joe Kerr]

I will get the last say. Thank you.

Ring Work: 8.8 Orton has improved dramatically since his first stint in the WWE. I knew he would as everyone else was busy criticizing him for blowing spots, I knew one day soon he would be great. I say he's in the Top 5 right now in the WWE with in-ring work.

Mic Skills: 7.9 Again, he improved dramatically over the year. The Flair Promo, like everyone else said was pure right on the money. He also had a few great promos against Edge and Foley.


Work Rate: 9.1 He goes out there and gives everything he has. And if you watch, he sells like a mother fucker. Sometimes I think he sells wayy to much because it looks like he's really hurting himself. He's young, so he shouldn't sell really crazy right now.


Crowd Reaction: 8.5 Was force fed to the crowd at first, but soon the crowd grew to love him as a heel. He's getting better reactions every week as a babyface, but still not that great.

Character: 9.0 What can I say here. He kept me interested in all of his segments throughout the year as the "Legend Killer." He was perfect for the role and he played it great. His mannerisms at times are second to none. He seems to know how to improve and feed off of how other wrestlers react. This is one element very few wrestlers have anymore.


Final: 8.6


you gave him lower than 11?

[Mister Sinister]

Voting Is Closed

[Azriel]

Wow, nicely done LC with actually critiquing him and not simply joygasm over him like we thought you would