Help me out. (wrestling related)

[DaveWadding]

I'm doing a compare/contrast essay in my English class on Hogan and Flair. I need ways/ideas on how to compare/contrast them.

If you help me out good, I will give you a rep.

Thanks,

Dave.

[McLegend]

Their finishers thats a good one.
How many time they have been champions.
How long have they wrestled for
their fan base like the hulkmanicas and whatever Flair's fans are called
There biggest feuds

[Disturbed316]

You could say how they both helped build the wrestling business, Flair over at NWA/WCW and Hogan at WWF. Dunno.

[Funky Fly]

Similarities:
-both old farts who are still wrestling
-both notorious backstage politicans
-both made a huge impact on wrestling
-both are in desperate need of a wonderbra

Differences:
-Hogan is bald
-Flair is still watchable
-Flair's finisher doesn't suck

There's your report.

[DaveWadding]

Funky :'(

[Funky Fly]

What? :)

[DaveWadding]

I dunno.

[Mayo]

Also you could do their lifestyles outside of wrestling, and how they got into it. I think Flair was a party animal kind of guy, but I don't really know how Hogan was in his leisure time.

[SuperSlim]

you could always compare their styles.

Hogan was the guy that couldn't do anythin while Flair was the guy that would wrestle circles around you

[Savio]

They should both be out of wrestling.
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Wow bad rep me because I gave you a suggestion......Fat shit.

[Innovator]

Flair got over by making others look like a million bucks. He made the territory's face look like he was going to win but then Flair would pull it out with a Dusty Finish.

Hogan got over by destroying others. He sold for about 5 minutes then began his comeback.

Flair sold, Hogan rarely did. Both tried backstage booking, whether it be as a booker or with "creative control".

[The Icon of Elisim]

Flair represented an older era where guys got over on talent, Hogan represented a new era of guys getting over with little talent but the right look and charisma.

Both inspired future generations but in totally different ways.

[Disturbed316]

HOGANS HOLLYWOOD CAREER

[V]

you could talk about their kids.. how flair's son is in wrestling.. and hogan's daughter is a singer

duno.. just random ideas that haven't been said

oh yeah, talk about how hogan convinced kids to "eat their vitamins and say their prayers" while flair talks about making virgins bleed

[Mr. Nerfect]

You could talk about their talent and ability in the ring, and how famous they are (Hint: Ric Flair's got the ability, but Hogan gets the attention).

[The CyNick]

Both guys were politicians, depsite the goodwill towards Flair on this thread that might disagree with the statement.

Both guys drew money, but Hogan drew much much ......mcuh much more.

Hogan's style for whatever reason clicked with a larger portion of the population.

Both guys knew how to work an audience.

The difference in styles had more ot do with the territories they worked in more than anything else. I mean Flair obviously has more "wrestling" skills, but at the same time if he thought he could've got over in the Mid Atlantic doing Hogan's schtick he would have.

Both guys live their gimmicks to this day.

Hogan seemed to be better at balancing his personal life with wrestling.

Both guys are more over at 50+ years old than 98% of the current stars of today, but at the same time neither are really able to draw money for long periods of time.

I would say Hogan is to Flair what a Hollywood blockbuster is to a Shakespeare play in a small theatre. They are both out there doing basically the same thing (telling a story in the ring), but most people would say the small theatre play is better written and is more skilled acting, but the big Hollywood picture is more entertaining to the masses and will make more money than the small Shakespeare play.

[ColdwaVer]

Their two big differences in my opinion:
Flair has always been willing to sell to almost anyone, even at the expense of making himself look like a fool... sh</>it, the man even sold to Robocop. Hogan on the other hand has always been conscious of what it would cost him to make someone else look good.
You could also point out that while Hogan has come and gone in the business as it suited him, Flair has more or less been a constant presence in wrestling through his entire career.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, Hogan wore yellow, flair wore red

Then there is the fact, Hogan acctaully did something for wrestling, and was (for lack of a better term) invovative what with bring crowds in and all. While at the same time, Flair was a great wrestler, and an icon in the business but no one knows who he is outside of wrestling.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, Hogan is way more business Savy than Flair. Sure Hogan's movies may have sucked, but Flair never did any. Sure Hogan's album's may have sucked but Flair never did any. Sure Hogan's tv series may have sucked, but Flair never did any. Sure everything Hogan did outside of wrestling sucks, but what has Flair ever done? Hogan opened a ton of doors for wrestlers. Rock wouldn't be in movies if it wasn't for Hogan. Cena would get to make that album (if they ever get around to it) if it wasn't for Hogan. Austin wouldn't have been on tv shows if it wasn't for Hogan. Hogan tried to branch out, and make the Hulk Hogan name brand more than a wrestler, Flair never did crap.

[Aussie Skier]

I would say Hogan is to Flair what a Hollywood blockbuster is to a Shakespeare play in a small theatre. They are both out there doing basically the same thing (telling a story in the ring), but most people would say the small theatre play is better written and is more skilled acting, but the big Hollywood picture is more entertaining to the masses and will make more money than the small Shakespeare play.

ABSOLUTLY BRILLIANT ANALOGY!

"you must spread some reputation around before giving to CyNick."


I think that is perfect!
I'd say dave wadding will be...wadding in his pants when he reads this :naughty:
the contrast is perfect. Hollywood movies are not neccasarily better, but they appeal to the millions... *and millions* of movie fans around the world. Hollywood movies are also heavily promoted, ie WWE...than a shakespeare play, ie NWA

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[DaveWadding]

Here's the introduction. I had a pretty hard time writing the first few lines...so go ahead and tell me what's good and bad and make suggestions and shitttttttt.

Professional wrestling was quite the marketable entity in the 1980s. From the beginning of “Hulkamania” on Jan. 23<SUP>rd</SUP>, 1984 until the early 1990s, everyone wanted a piece of the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) and its star, Terry Bollea (alias: Hulk Hogan, as he shall be referred to as through the course of this essay). While Hulk and the WWF were riding the wave of popularity and rolling in the millions brought in via endorsement and advertising deals, there was another promotion working in opposition to make pro wrestling about the actual wrestling, and not about the showmanship of the WWF. This organization is the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA), a loose contingent of many regional wrestling promotions throughout the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com /><st1:country-region w:st=<ST1:pUnited States</ST1:p. </st1:country-region>They, of course, had their own star, Richard Fliehr (alias: Ric Flair). Arguably two of the best ever to step into the “squared circle,” a Hogan/Flair match up would be to professional wrestling what a Tyson/Ali match would be to boxing. Naturally, Hogan and Flair are two different competitors, so they would have their similarities as well as their differences.

[Stickman]

Pretty lame topic if your professor (teacher or whatever education level you're at) is not a wrestling fan.

Also, don't you have to reference things throughout your report? For instance, what source did you find Hulkamania being born on Jan 23 1984?

One other thing, I don't know where you did your research from, but I'm guessing a lot of your research was done from the internet, which is not the best place to seek references from. But I'm hoping you knew that and do have actual texts that you got most of your info from.

Just trying to help...

[addy2hotty]

Perhaps this as a conclusion type part of it.....

Hogan was and still is the ultimate 'superhero' wrestling character. Flair always used his ability and reputation as such to move him further. Hogan was on top and drew money in a time when the mainstream wrestling business was being marketed to families and children, whereas Flair's character was and has never been that type of marketable character. Even today, in a much changed wrestling business, both still are around, Hogan has found a renaissance as the superhero 'Hulk Rules' character which he first made popular more than 20 years ago, while Flair, still perhaps running on his historical place at the heart of the business rather than his in-ring ability has the ability to perform in matches and interviews.

Both were and forever will be complete opposites in terms of character and in-ring capability, but both still have the ability to appeal to the wrestling fan and be popular in their eyes many years after they first debuted despite the many wrestlers that have come and gone who have been setup to 'take their places' at the highest points of the industry.

[DaveWadding]

Pretty lame topic if your professor (teacher or whatever education level you're at) is not a wrestling fan.

Also, don't you have to reference things throughout your report? For instance, what source did you find Hulkamania being born on Jan 23 1984?

One other thing, I don't know where you did your research from, but I'm guessing a lot of your research was done from the internet, which is not the best place to seek references from. But I'm hoping you knew that and do have actual texts that you got most of your info from.

Just trying to help...
I really don't give a shit about how interested my professor is in reading my essay.

I haven't done ANY research (except for the spelling of Flair's real last name) it's all from memory.

[Stickman]

I really don't give a shit about how interested my professor is in reading my essay.

I haven't done ANY research (except for the spelling of Flair's real last name) it's all from memory.


If your professor does like wrestling that will definately help.

The paragraph was good though, just make sure you reference things.

[DaveWadding]

Holy shit. This bad boy is clocking in at like <s>900</s>*edit* 950 words.

[Aussie Skier]

r u a school student yeah?

cos you shoudl reference pretty much all of that piece, such as:
when hulkamania was born
NWA being real wrestling

etc...

but then, where on earth could you get a quality reference from, could u reference someone like JV from Knowyounnews.com?