Holly acts like a dick again

[Kapoutman]

From Wrestlingobserver.com


by Sam Roberts

Ok, I had second row seats at the Smackdown Holla Holla Holla House
Show Tonight in Syracuse, and check out what happened!
Ok, tag title match, Hardcore Holly/Charlie Haas v. Kenzo
Suzuki/Dupree hardcore rules. So I didn't catch Rene Dupree doing
anything wrong, but mid way through the match Holly approaches him
right in front of us on the outside of the ring and just slams him on
the head with a ridiculously stiff chairshot (chair dented, the whole
9 yards). So Dupree is laying in the fetal position next to the ring
and Holly comes over and just starts nailing him repeatedly with some
of the hardest punches I've ever seen. When Holly gets off him,
Dupree's left eye and all of the surrounding area is RIDICULOUSLY
swollen. Dupree gets up and walks over to get his belt, Suzuki makes
the pin in the ring and it's over. But, as Dupree is grabbing the
belt, Holly is going towards him at which point Rene notices and
starts running to the locker room, not in a work type of way but in a
I fear for my life type of way, and Holly runs after. Haas and Suzuki
eventually leave. A little while later, some of th security around the
ring are talking along with Fit Finley and apparently Dupree and Holly
also got in a fight backstage. I don't know if that's true, but I can
vouch for everything that happened other than the backstage stuff, as
it was right in front of me.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Hardcore has some fucking problems if this is true.

[RemyRed]

Holy shit :lol:

[Drakul]

Holly is shit :lol:
:shifty:

[Funky Fly]

Goddamn I hate that guy.

[KayfabeMan]

:nono:

[The Ravishing One]

^ :y:

[LK]

God Holly's a complete ass.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If that's true, shame on Holly. It wouldn't surprise me to see him released because of that. It would honestly be ironic that the guy who claims everyone should pay their dues, gets fired because he worked stiff with a new kid.

I usually defend Holly. Through his push, through his matches, through his crowd reactions (which are great), and even through Matt Cappotelli, Carlito Caribbean Cool and all the injuries he has either sustained or put people through (supposedly) in his career. But if Hardcore really did beat up on that kid, I really think enough is enough. No matter how big you think you are or how much you've put into the business yuo can't go hurting people, even if they did do something. I can't think of ONE thing other than pull out a gun/knife that Rene could have said or done that warrants an attack like that.

I hope this is just people getting too carried away with Hardcore's reputation, and complimenting Rene's acting skills (which are superb). I honestly wouldn't lose any sleep if Rene, Kenzo and/or Charlie Haas got some retribution for that. Hell, it would be great if Hiroko and Fifi got their kicks in. If Holly did do all that, he jeoprodised all those men's/women's/dog's careers by possibly throwing the ENTIRE match out of whack.

I am found myself filled with disgust while writing that. I can't say I'll ever wrestle and I can't image what guys like Hardcore Holly have to go through to stay in shape and get into the ring on more than a weekly basis, and I certainly can't understand the frustration guys like Hardcore Holly have felt getting excellent fan reactions at times, while putting on decent matches and being loyal to the comapny for as long as you have to have seen them all come and go while you're the only guy that hasn't really shifted on the roster, and will probably either be wrestling in mid-card matches your entire life, or working as a road agent and follwoing the same hectic schedules, or getting a part-time job at McDonald's or Burger King.

I respect Holly's passion, and I can't say I've ever stuck with anything other than breathing for as long as he has wrestling, and more importantly the WWE, and at times I'd even call myself a Hardcore Bob (Holly mark), but I CANNOT for the life of me support his actions during that match and after it if he did what was reported.

I sincerely hope that he didn't. Not only for Rene's sake. Not only for my sake as a wrestling fan and a Hardcore fan, but for Hardcore himself.

[CosaNostra]

Probably thought "another young guy that hasn't paid his dues".

What a fucking cock. Let him go to Tough Enough and try that shit with Puder. :mad:

[Tornado]

Holly is such a dick.

[Ska-Wars]

Holly is probably the only pro wrestler I have no respect for whatsoever. This has merely reinforced that. From what I see, the guy only picks on younger, less experienced workers. What a sad wanker.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I hope the Tough Enough challenge this week is one on one with Holly. Watch Puder end his fucking career if Holly tries any shit.</font>

[Pepsi Man]

Sounds like good oldschool tough guy wrestling to me.

[CosaNostra]

Sounds like good oldschool tough guy wrestling to me.
I wonder what Holly was thinking when he did that; even though bullying cock heads like Holly don't really need a justification.

[SuperSlim]

pathetic by Holly

[Pepsi Man]

I wonder what Holly was thinking when he did that; even though bullying cock heads like Holly don't really need a justification.
What, punching people and hitting them with steel chairs in a "Hardcore" wrestling match? In fact, you're right. That's out of line! Since when do we have chair shots and punches in a Hardcore Match?! :mad:

[Eunos]

I hope Holly Dies

[Xero]

Holly's a hardcore dick. And I say that with all seriousness. (with a pun intened)

[CosaNostra]

What, punching people and hitting them with steel chairs in a "Hardcore" wrestling match? In fact, you're right. That's out of line! Since when do we have chair shots and punches in a Hardcore Match?! :mad:
Uh, yeah ok. Was it even hardcore rules? And even if it were, Holly was obvioulsy working way to stiff, even for a hardcore match. Given his relative experience, he should have known better. I'm betting that he did, only he chose to be a prick about it; to work the young new kid over and teach him a lesson.

Sparky's day will come.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I admit that it was kind of douchey for Holly to do. But does anybody know why he did it? I mean don't be so quick to jump on how bad Holly is without knowing the whole entire story. I believe what happened in the ring and I even believe that the fight took place backstage. But just cause Holly did that doesn't really make him a Hardcore dick. I mean Rene could have done something to piss him off before the match or something. I don't know if he did. The creator of this thread doesn't know nobody knows except for the people working in the WWE. I am not trying to jump onto the Holly bandwagon. And I certainly will not condone his behavior. I'm just saying that there might be more to it that we don't know. But, either way Hardcore is a dick.

[Sephiroth]

Bet he forgot to take his brain pills again. :nono:

[CosaNostra]

I mean Rene could have done something to piss him off before the match or something. I don't know if he did. The creator of this thread doesn't know nobody knows except for the people working in the WWE. I am not trying to jump onto the Holly bandwagon. And I certainly will not condone his behavior. I'm just saying that there might be more to it that we don't know. But, either way Hardcore is a dick.
I hear you. I know that we might not get the whole picture. But with Holly's history, it isn't that hard to fill in the blanks. If Dupree did something to piss him off, that is still no justification for what he did. He should have chosen to act more professionally and deal with it in the back instead of the ring where he is supposed to be working.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I hear you. I know that we might not get the whole picture. But with Holly's history, it isn't that hard to fill in the blanks. If Dupree did something to piss him off, that is still no justification for what he did. He should have chosen to act more professionally and deal with it in the back instead of the ring where he is supposed to be working.

I know that I was pointing that out. No matter what I still think Holly is a dick for doing what he's doing. Like I said before Even if Dupree did something or said something to piss him off that still doesn't give him any right to beat him up. If that's the case I think he should be suspended from WWE and must take Anger Management classes before coming back to WWE.

[Kane Knight]

What, punching people and hitting them with steel chairs in a "Hardcore" wrestling match? In fact, you're right. That's out of line! Since when do we have chair shots and punches in a Hardcore Match?! :mad:

Pssst. Wrestling isn't real.

[Kane Knight]

I admit that it was kind of douchey for Holly to do. But does anybody know why he did it? I mean don't be so quick to jump on how bad Holly is without knowing the whole entire story. I believe what happened in the ring and I even believe that the fight took place backstage. But just cause Holly did that doesn't really make him a Hardcore dick.

Unless he assraped bobcore's dead grandma in a dark match, there's very little I could imagine doing that would make Bobcore seem justified. It was unprofessional of him, and he was most certainly a dick.

[Kane Knight]

I know that I was pointing that out. No matter what I still think Holly is a dick for doing what he's doing. Like I said before Even if Dupree did something or said something to piss him off that still doesn't give him any right to beat him up. If that's the case I think he should be suspended from WWE and must take Anger Management classes before coming back to WWE.

Fuck anger management.

Put him in a hardcore match with the WWE's newest developmental talent, Butterbean. And tell him Bean hasn't paid his dues.

[Kapoutman]

I also saw the story on PWBTS.com BTW. It seems legitimate, and PWBTS says that there was indeed a fight backstage after the match.

[John la Rock]

I think he's just a bitter old man who's thinks he should be a World Champ because he's been in the business so long. So he takes out his frustration on rookies

[Gone Mad]

Holly.... my god, is this guy just the biggest piece of shit on the earth. He just craves attention and he needs it, just like he needs a title and some help at that. Maybe Holly should pay his dues and find some talent before he goes off on young talent again. But like usual, Vince doesn't seem to know what works in his company and what hurts it, in this case though is what is hurting the talent.

Enough said, he is waste of human space and there is no point in defending him. Ever. (And hell, I usually defend even those I hate, he doesn't deserve it)

[King Jericho]

Holly should be fired, piece of s</>hit.

[Savio]

Holly fucked up 3 things on smackdown that I can Recall
1 Chavo vs The World
2 Carlitos title Run
3 and now injuring Rene

[Savio]

He should move to raw so when he complains about paying Dues HHH has him fired.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Holly should be fired, piece of s</>hit.

[tucsonspeed6]

We should seriously try to get him fired...like we should spread the word that he's a dick and nobody should give him any pops or heat either way. Just dead silence wherever he goes.

That'll surely get him fired :shifty:

[loopydate]

I can guarantee that when Holly was defending himself to Vince, he used the words "Ron" and "Artest" at least once.

[Anybody Thrilla]

HOLLY: Hitting rookies is good for them! My friend Ron can Artest to that!

VINCE: Huh?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just find it annoying that by the time Rene's Holly's age, provided his sticks with wrestling, which I really wouldn't be too surprised if he left the WWE for a safer working environment. But anyway, provided that Rene stcisk with the WWE, he will have more experience (I think) than Hardcore Holly when he reaches his age. What is Holly's problem? Dupree is WWE Tag Team Champion, it's not like he's anywhere near the WWE Championship at this point.

I really hope this is all just a HUGE misunderstanding, but if it is, I hate to say this, but I think Hardcore should either get intensive therapy, or needs to be released, and I don't think I've ever once said a man needs to be released.

[tucsonspeed6]

I can guarantee that when Holly was defending himself to Vince, he used the words "Ron" and "Artest" at least once.

And then he asked for a month off with full pay so he could work on his rap album.

[loopydate]

And then he asked for a month off with full pay so he could work on his rap album.
Yo yo yo
I was a race car driver
And then I was "Bombastic"
Then Vince let me use weapons
And my hardcore shit was classic
But now I'm just a jobber
Beating up on rooks
My reputation's been destroyed
And I can't rhyme, neither

[MVP]

What a dick.

[V]

wow, just wow. You'd think every wrestler would be proffesional enough not to actually hurt someone while they're performing, no matter how JEALOUS you are of their youth, or how much you hate that they are showing more talent at the age of 19 than you have your entire career!

fuck off holly, you're a fucking idiot, it was your fault mordecai's gone, your fault carlito's out for 3 months, it's your fault I can't talk, it's all your fault! it's all your fault!.... Please break your neck again.

[Splaya]

Hardcore Holly = The Ron Artest of the WWE :nono:

[Splaya]

5 bucks says the next thing Holly does is go after someone in the crowd because they throw beer on him :lol: :shifty:

[loopydate]

I just remembered that Heidenreich went into the crowd and "beat up" some fans a couple of weeks back.

Now we know who to blame for the downfall of society! Wrestling!

[/PTC]

[Anybody Thrilla]

From the tracks to the Midnight Express, it's Hardcore
Disrespect me, nigga, and I'll have to beat you to the floor
These young fools ain't got what it takes to have gold around their waist
Lay them bitches out with picture perfect dropkicks to the face
And best believe I'll break kayfabe and stomp a Frenchie named Rene
Cause he had nipples in his teeth back in my race car driving days
So let that bitch run to security, the whole way screamin' "OW"
Because I'm Bob Holly, bitch, so how do you like me now?

[Funky Fly]

HOLLY: Hitting rookies is good for them! My friend Ron can Artest to that!

VINCE: Huh?
LOL

[Boondock Saint]

Just read this at Wrestlezone...


We have more details on the story between Hardcore Holly and Rene Dupree from last nights house show. Dupree apparently has a ton of heat on him right now due to screwing up while driving.

He apparently got a ticket while driving a rental car in Holly's name. Bob apparently had to take care of the ticket himself and had to waste time flying to another city.

Bob has been called by some backstage in the company as a genuine 'asshole' and did what he did last night as a sign of "You screwed with the wrong guy"

[CosaNostra]

Just read this at Wrestlezone...


We have more details on the story between Hardcore Holly and Rene Dupree from last nights house show. Dupree apparently has a ton of heat on him right now due to screwing up while driving.

He apparently got a ticket while driving a rental car in Holly's name. Bob apparently had to take care of the ticket himself and had to waste time flying to another city.

Bob has been called by some backstage in the company as a genuine 'asshole' and did what he did last night as a sign of "You screwed with the wrong guy"

Sparky should have taken care of it on his off time, and not at work. He could have demanded the money he lost on the ticket as well as compensation for time lost because of Dupree instead of behaving like a dick in front of the audience that pays for his work. Dupree fucked up, but that doesn't justify Holly's idiotic actions.

[Head]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Don't fire him, just put him in a hardcore shoot match with Angle on every house show for a month or two.

[CosaNostra]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Don't fire him, just put him in a hardcore shoot match with Angle on every house show for a month or two.
Or if he has the stones to teach Puder a "dues lesson". :mad:

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Unless he assraped bobcore's dead grandma in a dark match, there's very little I could imagine doing that would make Bobcore seem justified. It was unprofessional of him, and he was most certainly a dick.

You didn't read my entire post though. I said at the end of my post that either way Holly is still a dick. Why don't they just fire the fucker all ready? I mean if he's injuring everyone he's a hazard to WWE and they fire people who haven't done shit. ANd here Holly is injuring one person after the other. Just fire him all ready he's gonna kill someone.

[Pepsi Man]

Pssst. Wrestling isn't real.
Isn't it just like you to use an oversimplified statement just to try to get the 1-up on someone?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

That'd be awesome if Puder beat the shit out of Holly.

[JeremyTB29]

I remember when Holly tried to get stiff with Lesner and Lesner dropped him on his head.

[CosaNostra]

I remember when Holly tried to get stiff with Lesner and Lesner dropped him on his head.
Bet he never tried that again with Brock. :)

There are some serious guys who would fuck Holly up for real that are in this business. Angle, Lesnar,, formerly Shamrock........these guys can bring it for real.

People...........who are some other guys that can fuck up Sparky's shit for real?

[Heyman]

Is it possible to Dupree to take LEGAL ACTION against Holly?

I sincerely hope that this is an option.


Either way - Holly should be fired IMMEDIATELY.

[Funky Fly]

Bet he never tried that again with Brock. :)

There are some serious guys who would fuck Holly up for real that are in this business. Angle, Lesnar,, formerly Shamrock........these guys can bring it for real.

People...........who are some other guys that can fuck up Sparky's shit for real?
I would put money on anyone who was trained in the Dungeon who isn't retired or dead. Remember that topic a while back about Jericho taking down Goldberg backstage?

[StrongMad]

I don't see how that was funny.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I hope the Tough Enough challenge this week is one on one with Holly. Watch Puder end his fucking career if Holly tries any shit.
And guys he feels as though he can take, you'll notice, he didn't try shooting on Brock.

[John la Rock]

I would put money on anyone who was trained in the Dungeon who isn't retired or dead. Remember that topic a while back about Jericho taking down Goldberg backstage?

I'd LOVE to see Crapcore try this shit to Benoit. He'd get fucking owned like no tommorow

[John la Rock]

I remember when Holly tried to get stiff with Lesner and Lesner dropped him on his head.

if only Brock was still wrestling :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sparky should have taken care of it on his off time, and not at work. He could have demanded the money he lost on the ticket as well as compensation for time lost because of Dupree instead of behaving like a dick in front of the audience that pays for his work. Dupree fucked up, but that doesn't justify Holly's idiotic actions.

That's 100% right. He could have gone to either the WWE management and reported it, or taken legal action against Dupree and made him pay the ticket. Instead he beat up Dupree, and it would have served Holly right if Dupree had kciekd Holly's ass (he's a big dude). He's to the entire OVW roster coming up to SmackDown! led by the Dupree brothers and teaching Holly not only professional respect, but personal respect as well.

[Corkscrewed]

Dammit, loopy took my Ron Artest joke. :(

Although if Dupree really did get a ticket while driving a car in Holly's name, that does kinda suck, though Holly should be enough of a man not to take it out on Renee during a match, or physically in any way.

[Paul Heyman]

http://notsam.com/holly.html

Pics there

[CosaNostra]

Yet another reason why Sparky is a dick:

Tough Enough is an example Bob uses describing the lack of respect some of these young guys have when they come in to the business. “They haven’t paid their dues; they don’t respect the guys that have and they don’t belong where they’re at.

"Some of these guys that are in the business now just have everything handed to them and I disagree with that. That kind of irritates me a lot because there’s some of the guys in our locker room that are like that and believe me, if I get a chance to be in the ring with them, I will eat them alive.”

http://www.liveaudiowrestling.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=9521

OMFG. I hope more than anything that they decide to put Puder in the ring with Holly during a TE segment and Holly tries to do something. Please God I am begging you; grant me this wish! :rant:

[Rob]

The man should be fired.

Oh if I ever met him I'd make sure I had a knife that day.

[The Naitch]

Holly is such a child. Low class trash. Grow the fuck up. :nono:

[Shadow]

If we're firing Holly for being a dick, can we fire HHH for yanking our chains? And holding down people? Or...just being HHH?

Won't happen guys. Watch Holly get another push at the WWE championship.

[Dazz]

LOL so Holly did a wrong, people shouldn't get THIS annoyed. The point is Dupree is a pussy for running backstage, any details on who was winning the backstage fight when it was broken up?

[Mister Sinister]

LOL so Holly did a wrong, people shouldn't get THIS annoyed. The point is Dupree is a pussy for running backstage, any details on who was winning the backstage fight when it was broken up?

We get annoyed when it happens three plus times a month...first we got pissed when he ruined a good up and comer push, by injuring him at a House show, which lead to CCC losing the US Title, then he did this shit...what is next, we find out Dupree is injured and they will vacate the Tag Straps?

[Morrisey]

Hmm, I'm not saying I don't believe this, but I seem to remember that in Mick Foley's book "Foley Is Good" he says that Bob's fake punches are harder than most people's real punches. Imagine for a minute that Kapoutman hasn't seen Holly wrestle before and was shocked at the force of his punches. And then imagine Dupree got pissed off at Holly backstage because of this and they started fighting. As for Holly chasing Dupree backstage, he could have been booked to do that and Dupree was acting well. In fact Holly could have been told to work stiff on Dupree because of Rene doing the French Tickler at house shows to get reactions!

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL so Holly did a wrong, people shouldn't get THIS annoyed. The point is Dupree is a pussy for running backstage, any details on who was winning the backstage fight when it was broken up?

Dupree isn't a pussy, he confronted Hardcore Holly backstage about it. If anything Dupree was showing a good nature by allowing the fans not to witness it, and not taking away form Charlie Haas and Kenzo Suzuki in the ring (apparantly it was quite a good match going on between the two).

[Dazz]

Well when you put it like that it doesn't sound like he is a pussy, but you haven't seen it, the thread starter said Dupree looked scared for his life.

[John la Rock]

If we're firing Holly for being a dick, can we fire HHH for yanking our chains? And holding down people? Or...just being HHH?

Won't happen guys. Watch Holly get another push at the WWE championship.

There's a big difference between Triple H and Hardcore Holly:

HHH has TALENT and is one of the top draws on Raw.

Hardcore doesn't have talent and he can't and never will draw a dime

[Funky Fly]

Well when you put it like that it doesn't sound like he is a pussy, but you haven't seen it, the thread starter said Dupree looked scared for his life.
Did you see those pics of him? Fucking Bobcore tried to massacre him.

Then there's the <font size=10>2 times</font> he beat the shit out of Matt Capottelli from TE3. The second time resulted in Matt not being able to be on Smackdown and Jacqueline having to replace him ans winner of the Cruiserweight title. He's injury prone and a danger to be in the ring with.

[Dazz]

The pictures didn't look that bad, and just because he has been an arse in the past doesn't mean everyone should get all pissy. Like someone said, in Foley's book he says Hardcore's fake punches are harder then others real punches, and it could have been planned that Dupree would leggit backstage. Do you honestly think that Hardcore Holly was going to try and batter the shit out of Dupree in the ring, in front of everyone, and expect to get away with it?

[Corkscrewed]

Yes. It's a house show and he has standing in the company, while Dupree is a new guy. Of course he'll get away with it. Smark outrage means nothing to him.

And basically, his plan worked, because he WILL "get away with it."

[StrongMad]

The thing is, Holly isn't even that good of a wrestler. Is he just pissed off because new guys have better ability than him? Or is it just because he's a dick? Or maybe it's both.

[Gone Mad]

Holly has nothing, HHH has something. HHH, from what I know, has not tried to beat the living piss out of a fellow wrestler for revenge as Holly has done. Sure, he kills pushes (which his politics has been well-documented for that), but not the way Holly does it. ..And the 'punishment' for his actions on DuPree? He 'jobs' to a new comer in a dark match and then.. laughs it off? Asshole.

All I know is this saying that I just came up with: Everytime a fan badmouths Holly, he gets another WWE title push. That seems to be the only reason why he is still around in the company.

[RP]

I'm not sure if this was said. But Dupree probably would not have taken the beating he did if he expected it. Everything is planned out in these matches. For the most part the wrestlers know whats gunna happen and when a melee is gunna happen outside. What probably happend was that Holly decided to let loose on Dupree on the outside with dupree thinking it was apart of the match until holly started hitting him. By the time dupree took the punches he was shaken up and getting beat down by Holly's moron ass. Dupree didnt expect it and thats the scary thought. And i'm guessing when he got up and ran to the back from Holly he was probably still really shaken and unable to defend himself.

I guarantee if Dupree knew it was coming he would have owned Holly. Ofcourse he didnt know probably and Holly basically jumped his ass outside.

Holly took advantage of Dupree's professionalism and excercised his Un-professionalism. For that he should be fired.

I pray Dupree whipped the snot out of him backstage. I also pray for Puder Holly tough enough segment. Pls Vince Pls. Get this jackass in the ring with Puder. Youl make Puder a star and Holly the jackass unprofessional cock sucker that he is.

[Corkscrewed]

I just figured out yet another way to get Puder over! Have him break Holly's neck, and make him into a Benoit/Sabu type character!!!!! :shifty: :D

[Funky Fly]

Yes. It's a house show and he has standing in the company, while Dupree is a new guy. Of course he'll get away with it. Smark outrage means nothing to him.

And basically, his plan worked, because he WILL "get away with it."
You were absolutely riht. He had to job during a dark match and he was laughing about it.

There aren't many people I can legitimately say I hate, but Bobcore is one of them. If he were on fire, I'd piss on him, then light him on fire again.

[Lara Emily]

His punishment was to job to some guy in a dark match at the SD tapings, apparantly that's it for his punishment.

[ColdwaVer]

We should seriously try to get him fired...like we should spread the word that he's a dick and nobody should give him any pops or heat either way. Just dead silence wherever he goes.

That'll surely get him fired :shifty:

See, you're onto it with the :shifty: there.

What we should all do is start praising Holly to high heaven over the net, talking about what a fantastic guy he is and how he should be made World Champion right away, and that Vince is stupid for not pushing him harder. And then start a fake Holly site claiming that Holly is personally responsible for it, and write a bunch of articles slamming other veterans and praising cruiserweights.

He'll be fired in a week.