Rate The Wrestler - Day 113 - "Innovator Of Violence" Tommy Dreamer

[Mister Sinister]

The ECW fest of mine continues with the most loyal man to ever work for the company, the man, who may of been everything ECW stood for, the Man is Tommy Dreamer!

Also Stevie Richards scored a very impressive 87

<select><option><b>Rating History</b>
<option>Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
<option>Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
<option>Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
<option>Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
<option>Day 5: Low Ki (73)
<option>Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
<option>Day 7: Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
<option>Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
<option>Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
<option>Day 10: Raven (87)
<option>Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
<option>Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
<option>Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
<option>Day 14: John Bradshaw Layfield (46)
<option>Day 15: Taz (82)
<option>Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
<option>Day 17: Christian (83)
<option>Day 18: Ric Flair (87)
<option>Day 19: Jeff Jarrett (65)
<option>Day 20: Shawn Michaels (92)
<option>Day 21: Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat (90)
<option>Day 22: Kevin Nash (61)
<option>Day 23: Jushin Lyger (88)
<option>Day 24: Brock Lesnar (78)
<option>Day 25: Sting (91)
<option>Day 26: Lex Luger (55)
<option>Day 27: Curt "Mr. Perfect" Henning (91)
<option>Day 28: Andre The Giant (80)
<option>Day 29: Vader (78)
<option>Day 30: Jim "The Anvil" Niedhart (66)
<option>Day 31: Scott Hall (83)
<option>Day 32: Big Vito (60)
<option>Day 33: Hollywood Hulk Hogan (82)
<option>Day 34: Jerry Lynn (83)
<option>Day 35: Kurt Angle (96)
<option>Day 36: Mick Foley (88)
<option>Day 37: Steve Corino (73)
<option>Day 38: Randy Orton (82)
<option>Day 39: Kane (84)
<option>Day 40: John Cena (77)
<option>Day 41: Doink The Clown (78)
<option>Day 42: Arn Anderson (92)
<option>Day 43: Alex Wright (73)
<option>Day 44: Chris Benoit (88)
<option>Day 45: Jamie Noble (73)
<option>Day 46: Harley Race (88)
<option>Day 47: Sean O'Haire (76)
<option>Day 48: Kanyon (83)
<option>Day 49: Triple H (81)
<option>Day 50: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin (93)
<option>Day 51: The Rock (92)
<option>Day 52: Val Venis (75)
<option>Day 53: Booker T (84)
<option>Day 54: Eddie Guerrero (91)
<option>Day 55: Sean "X-Pac" Waltman (60)
<option>Day 56: William Regal (89)
<option>Day 57: "Macho Man" Randy Savage (91)
<option>Day 58: The Undertaker (88)
<option>Day:59: Ted DeBiase (95)
<option>Day 60: Jake Roberts (88)
<option>Day 61: "Phycho" Sid Vicious (51)
<option>Day 62: Lance Storm (85)
<option>Day 63: Petey Williams (79)
<option>Day 64: Al Snow (81)
<option>Day 65: Jeff Hardy (69)
<option>Day 66: Bill Goldberg (64)
<option>Day 67: Matt Hardy V.1 (82)
<option>Day 68: "American Dragon" Brian Danielson (84)
<option>Day 69: CM Punk (82)
<option>Day 70: Hayabusa (87)
<option>Day 71: Buff Bagwell (56)
<option>Day 72: "The Dynamite Kid" Tom Billington (90)
<option>Day 73: Edge (79)
<option>Day 74: IRS (82)
<option>Day 75: Haku (64)
<option>Day 76: Lenny Lane (73)
<option>Day 77: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels (91)
<option>Day 78: Marc Mero (77)
<option>Day 79: Big Show (82)
<option>Day 80: Biily Kidman (75)
<option>Day 81: Barry Horowitz (68)
<option>Day 82: Brooklyn Brawler (66)
<option>Day 83: "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka (74)
<option>Day 84: Disco Inferno: (77)
<option>Day 85: "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (92)
<option>Day 86: Rhyno (84)
<option>Day 87: Batista (80)
<option>Day 88: Terry Funk (88)
<option>Day 89: Shane Douglas (85)
<option>Day 90: Rene Dupree (77)
<option>Day 91: Chris Sabin (81)
<option>Day 92: Tajiri (88)
<option>Day 93: "Ravishing" Rick Rude (94)
<option>Day 94: Tatanka (83)
<option>Day 95: Gobbledy Gooker (47)
<option>Day 96: The Sandman (71)
<option>Day 97: 2 Cold Scorpio (89)
<option>Day 98: Mike Awesome (75)
<option>Day 99: Dean Malenko (88)
<option>Day 100: Bob Backlund (90)
<option>Day 101: Marty Janetty (78)
<option>Day 102: Juventud Guerrera (83)
<option>Day 103: LA Park(a) (85)
<option>Day 104: Greg "The Hammer" Valentine (81)
<option>Day 105: The Honky Tonk Man (83)
<option>Day 106: Viscera (42)
<option>Day 107: King Kong Bundy (70)
<option>Day 108: Ultimate Warrior (84)
<option>Day 109: Bam Bam Bigelow (89)
<option>Day 110: Chris Candido (79)
<option>Day 111: Perry Saturn (82)
<option>Day 112: Stevie Richards (87)
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Current Top 10 Leaderboard
T-1st Bret "Hitman" Hart (96)
T-1st Kurt Angle (96)
T-3rd Owen Hart (95)
T-3rd "Million Dollar Man" Ted DeBiase (95)
5th "Ravishing" Rick Rude (94)
6th "Stone Cold" Steve Austin (93)
T-7th Brian Pillman (92)
T-7th "Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels (92)
T-7th "The Enforcer" Arn Anderson (92)
T-7th The Rock (92)
T-7th "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (92)

[Scorpion]

10

Very underestimated in the WWE

[John la Rock]

5

Overrated if anyting, can't wrestle for shit if it isn't Hardcore rules

[Azriel]

8.8 just for his dedication to the WWE, and who will ever forget THE CHAIRSHOT?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

7.7 I love him but he isn't really worth much outside the hardcore environment.

[MVP]

9.5

Dreamer was a loyal ECW worker, and did a lot for them. He was always willing to job and put guys over in both ECW and WWE.

[Gertner]

9.0

Aside from his hardcore background, he still had a decent move set, and was amazing on the mic.

[Eunos]

8

[KingofOldSchool]

3

[KingofOldSchool]

Tully Fucking Blanchard

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>9.7, Dreamer is the fucking man.</font>

[Innovator]

17, to make up for KoOS's rating

look at my name, nuff said

[KingofOldSchool]

Dreamer sucked in the ring and sucked on the mic.

It's amazing how you people will give 9's and 10's to almost every person in this thing.

The 9's and 10's should be given to only the elite, not to whatever curtain jerker you like.

[thecc]

10

[Innovator]

you people?

[KingofOldSchool]

you people?

Yes.

The people who give guys like Tommy Dreamer a 10 even though he is a shittier wrestler than JBL and is worse on the mic too.

By giving him a 10 is like saying he is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time and if you think that then I think you've been hit in the head more times than Mick Foley.

[Mister Sinister]

The main rule of Rate The Wrestler is, under no circumstance, do you question the scores of other people, unless of course, you feel someone is way, under rating someone...For Example, I normally wonder why anyone get's scored under a 5 regardless of anything, which is why I asked for a explantion to why you gave Stevie a 4, which of course, your reason was sorta correct..He has not really done much of anything to merit that much higher of a score...however, each person has his own grading system...

For Example, you seem to base it squarely on In-Ring Talent and What they have done.

LC- Does it based on Charisma, Potential and such

Myself, I base it on 10 categories

However, if you wish to complain about people over-rating some wrestler and I admit myself they do at times, then I'm going to ask you to leave and not vote

[KingofOldSchool]

However, if you wish to complain about people over-rating some wrestler and I admit myself they do at times, then I'm going to ask you to leave and not vote

That's really fucking stupid.

You can bitch about people "under-rating" but you can't bitch about "over-rating" some?"

That's a crock of shit.

[Mister Sinister]

Fine...Bitch all you want...it's not going to change anything...

Cause Remember....Argueing over the internet, is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still a retard

[KingofOldSchool]

Fine...Bitch all you want...it's not going to change anything...

Cause Remember....Argueing over the internet, is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still a retard

It's called debating...I thought this is what this whole "Rate the Wrestler" thing is all about, yeah?

[DaveWadding]

6.7

[Mister Sinister]

It's called debating...I thought this is what this whole "Rate the Wrestler" thing is all about, yeah?

Not Really...by the way, this is my last reply in this topic, so Funky doesn't have to sort thru tons of posts to try to grade theses things...

The whole purpoise of this thing, is to let everyone voice there opinions, on certein wrestlers...however, I respect your opinions, as far as your liking of wrestlers...and yes, at times, I do see things, being fucked up, as in...Hulk Hogan, regardless of how untalented he was....getting in the low 80's despite being the most over wrestler to ever be graced in our presences, another example, is Ric Flair, who is a well above average wrestler, and a legend, getting beat, by a kid who has a ton of potential, and the ultimate ammount of Talent in A.J Styles....If everyone actually graded things the same way...I would welcome debate, but everyone does indeed have there own opinions, on what they think is gold, because remember, while you may Hate Hardcore Wrestling...there are other who love, and Vice Versa....I mean, some People, love wrestlers who are High Flyers (Myself) Some love Characters (BigDaddyCool) and some just based things on Archivements in the ring....You by all means, welcome to open up your own thread to debate about each wrestler, I just would like to see the RTW Threads, clear of it....

[mike627]

8.5 just for being Raven's bitch for all those years.

[Boondock Saint]

8

[Innovator]

Flair would have a stroke if he saw the scores...Raven tied him and Foley beat him by 1

[Innovator]

not to even mention Bret's score

[Gone Mad]

7.5!

[Nervous Ferret]

8.2!

[John la Rock]

ya Flair would have a heart attack

[Bigg Mike]

10

[Funky Fly]

Ring ability: 7.5
Ring presence: 7
Overness: 7
Work rate: 10
Politics: 10
Personal Bias: 7.5
Charisma: 7
Mic skill: 8
Overall rank: 8.1

[Tazz Dan]

10

[Aussie Skier]

7 will do

[Kapoutman]

7

[Lara Emily]

7.5 and only because he is part of one of the greatest feuds of all time and is damn good at his hardcore wrestling niche.

[Dave Youell]

10

I met the guy and he was the coolest mang

[Bad Company]

5
Never really got into him

[asphyXy]

8.9 because he is the man.

[Impact!]

i'll give him a 10 just for his shot to jericho with a kendo stick at the 2003 royal rumble (damn)

[SuperSlim]

9.9

the man defined ECW and was severely underused in WWE

"Chairshot heard round the world"

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Ring ability: 6
Ring presence: 8
Overness: 8
Work rate: 10
Politics: 10
Personal Bias: 10
Charisma: 7
<u>Mic skill: 6</u>
<b>Overall rank: 8.1</b>

[Sephiroth]

8.5

[123 kid]

9.6

[Mister Sinister]

Ring Ability: 6.5 (Was better then people gave him credit for, but still not all that great)

Workrate: 10 (He is loyal and willing to do anything for the world of Wrestling)

Look: 5.5 (Didn't really have that great look about him)

Memories: 7.5(Charishot heard around the world, The Raven Blood Fued, The Table Scalford match with Brian Lee, Meaningful Hardcore Champion, Winning the ECW Title, Winning the Tag Titles with his enemy Raven)

Archivements: 7 (ECW Tag Team Champion, ECW Champion, WWE Hardcore Champion)

Portential: N/A

Overness: 7.5 (Over in ECW and decently over in the WWE)

Personal Bias: 8

Mic Skills: 6

Finisher: 7 (His Dreamer DDT's were good, as were the Dreamer Drivers, and the Tommyhawk was a cool move.

Overall: 7.2

[Nark Order]

You guys are fucking ridicluous. Tommy Dreamer is one of the most over rated wrestlers I've ever seen... His ring skills are absolute shit, he has no character, he's no-selled every punch that was ever thrown at him, and he uses the same one or two moves over and over again. The only thing he was ever good for was hitting people with things and falling off of huge objects. Hardly anybody that could be considered a quality wrestler, much less performer. You all rated him way to high so I give him a 0.2