Raw Dec 13 2004

[Nervous Ferret]

Did you change your name? I haven't really been posting here for the last few months, only the Raw thread.http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23699

here it is.

[Gone Mad]

I knew it... here he is.. Muhammed Hussan.

When Foley is around, he will push new talent.

lol at ancient WHAT? chants.

[Batsu]

LMFAO!! This is genius!!

Kudos to WWE!!

[Rain Man]

LOL all those Rednecks screaming "WHAT" lmao at this whole promo

[Deceit]

oh god, shut the fuck up with the WHAT chants, idiots!

[KingofOldSchool]

Austin chants:wtf:

Errrr are you deaf?

I hear no Austin chants...

[JT]

Austin chants:wtf:

It's never gonna die.

[The Answer]

Theme music is kind of cool

[Batsu]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

[Joe Kerr]

Errrr are you deaf?

I hear no Austin chants...

What?

[Rain Man]

Foley does push some new talent so good.. He is such money

[RemyRed]

This is GREAT writing/talking here.

[The Answer]

This promo is first rate

[ColdwaVer]

Just in case nobody ever said it before, Foley is God.

[Batsu]

this is even more genius than the TO-Sheridan mockery.

[KingofOldSchool]

I hope Flair does a run in and takes out Foley.

[KingofOldSchool]

What?

Last time I checked, "What" does not sound like "Austin."

[Shadow]

I love Foley. Who doesn't love Foley?

[Joe Kerr]

I wonder if Foley had this prepared speech or if he is just letting it flow off the top of his head



You better respect Foley Damn it :rant: :mad: :foc:

[RemyRed]

Check out the guns on Hassan.

[JT]

LOL...there's a reason my e-fed character is namd after him (Kid Cactus).

[Joe Kerr]

Last time I checked, "What" does not sound like "Austin."


WHAT

[Batsu]

Classic.

Lead-in with Foley pissing off the Alabamians by mentioning John Kerry (which got cheap heat), talking about the Christmas in Baghdad for Smackdown.

Muhammad Hassan comes out, angry anti-post-9/11 promo. Again, in Alabama.

Back and forth banter with the God of Emotionally Charged Promos, Mick Foley.

That was classic. Up there with the GOATs of RAW segments.

[The Answer]

Check out the guns on Hassan. :O

He's got that Batista build a bit smaller though

[Gone Mad]

Whoa.. that made up for everything else on tonight's show. I am digging the character and his theme. And no one was weakened, it was pretty even.

MERCI ?

[JT]

I love Foley. Who doesn't love Foley?

Hassan

[Joe Kerr]

Anyone play Tony Hawk Underground 2 online for Ps2?

[McLegend]

Great Promo and they have top 5 entrance music already in the WWE.

[KingofOldSchool]

WHAT

2001 called, they said that they are sick and tired of you.

[Nervous Ferret]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23699

here it is.No. No actually it's not. I got you mixed up with JT COOL. sorry. :'(

[MVP]

Hussan is ALLAH

[Joe Kerr]

2001 called, they said that they are sick and tired of you.

HAHAHHAHAH What?

[JT]

No. No actually it's not. I got you mixed up with JT COOL. sorry. :'(

I got that after I read it and notice someone tell you "Mr JL is not JT Kool".

Wait...who the hell is JT Cool?

[Rain Man]

2005 I think is going to be sick year if things keep getting better

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I can't believe WWE had the balls to make Hassan that extreme. I am really loving this character. Hassan is the man. I have a new reason to watch Raw.

[Shadow]

Hassan

Besides him.

[The Answer]

Another hot chick on Raw!!! :naughty:

[JT]

2005 I think is going to be sick year if things keep getting better

Don't jinxs it.

[Gone Mad]

smack those dorky glasses off his face, Trish! God, the only way I would enjoy a eDgE segment is if he spears him.

[Joe Kerr]

http://kms.kapalama.ksbe.edu/art/myimages/austin.jpg

[RemyRed]

lol Edge- Do I need to count the ways?

[Nervous Ferret]

I got that after I read it and notice someone tell you "Mr JL is not JT Kool".

Wait...who the hell is JT Cool? I meant Mr. JL.
Damn I hate the letter "J"

[The Answer]

Edge will get an elimination chamber spot is what Bischoff meant.I guarantee

[Savio]

Edge going to get his first rematch next _______

[Joe Kerr]

Christian is the man

[Gone Mad]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ PEEPS UNITE!!! IT'S CAPTIAN CHARISMA AND.. THAT GUY WITH NO CHARISMA!! $$$$$$$$$$$$

[JT]

I meant Mr. JL.
Damn I hate the letter "J"

Well while we're at it then, I'm not...

Mr. JL
JJ Moore
Joey Radd
Joey RoXer
Jerichoholic
JeRz
Kid Hardcore JJ


I'm the Jersey Cowboy, the Anime Champion, Kid Cactus...JT Kool!

[Shadow]

BTW...Just Close Your Eyes Pwns as a theme song.

[Gone Mad]

WWWOOOOOO!!! IT'S EUGENE!! ***airplane spins ***

eneguE = sgnitaR !

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

Christian is so awesome.

[JT]

EDIT

Nevermind, I see him.

[RemyRed]

Here comes the future (SB)

[JT]

If Bischoff is up next, is this the main event?

[The Answer]

For the Nfl enthuasists : Drew Bennett WR 8 Rec, 192 yds 2 TDs in the first half

Ten 21
KC 14

[Volchok]

i dont want Edge to get the world title.. theres somthing about him that dont say World Champion...

[Batsu]

LOL! Eugene is great...and so is Chris-TIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

[Joe Kerr]

This is what comes up if you type in JT Kool


http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~koolgang/discography/88jttaylor/03_jt.jpg

[Batsu]

HHH has a book? LOL.

[Joe Kerr]

For the Nfl enthuasists : Drew Bennett WR 8 Rec, 192 yds 2 TDs in the first half

Ten 21
KC 14


Yeah Im a Miami and Philladelphia fan...Ironicaly Philly won by 3 and Miami lost by 3 lol

[Gone Mad]

There's something about eDGE that says ... overpushed and no personality.

Now, Captain Charisma... how about him, peeps? He rules the schools, damn it! Give him a title!

[Nervous Ferret]

Well while we're at it then, I'm not...

Mr. JL
JJ Moore
Joey Radd
Joey RoXer
Jerichoholic
JeRz
Kid Hardcore JJ


I'm the Jersey Cowboy, the Anime Champion, Kid Cactus...JT Kool!where in Jersey? I'm there too.

[JT]

This is what comes up if you type in JT Kool


http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~koolgang/discography/88jttaylor/03_jt.jpg

That and TPWW.net.

It's been proven...

JT Kool = TPWW Webhits. :D

[Gone Mad]

Maven looks like he's advertising McDonald's with that goofy looking M on his trunks.

LOL at JR saying "everyone can hear him" ... meaning the crowd is dead.

[JT]

...a link to my site comes up too.

JerseyCowboy Productions.

[Joe Kerr]

http://www.fundraisers.com/people/picspeople/RADD.jpg

[JT]

Did JR just say "Stinger Splash".

[Joe Kerr]

Maven / Benjamin feud?....Great de pushing Benjamin

[JT]

where in Jersey? I'm there too.

Edison

[KingofOldSchool]

Maven looks like he's advertising McDonald's with that goofy looking M on his trunks.

LOL at JR saying "everyone can hear him" ... meaning the crowd is dead.
*cough*M&M*cough*

[JT]

He's gonna beg? :D

[KingofOldSchool]

Maven / Benjamin feud?....Great <s>de</s> pushing <s>Benjamin</s> Maven

:y:

[The Answer]

HHH needs a hobby

[Nervous Ferret]

Edison Toms River. In Ocean County.

[Shadow]

Awwwww...HHH misses Belty.

[Joe Kerr]

lol HHH Crying...if your that damn good just get it back geez

[Gone Mad]

Triple H is REALLY trying to go for that Golden Globe award tonight, isn't he?

Don't quit your day job, Hunter... whatever THAT is!

[JT]

Ladies and Gentlemen...I call this a shoot.

[McLegend]

O my god

The Game is cryin

I love him.

[Volchok]

Moment of Truth...

[Savio]

Nice promo HHH

[Volchok]

who else would mark out if all of a sudden when Bischoff was talking about the World Title Cena comes from behind and gives Eric the FU...?

[JT]

Moment of Truth...

I heard rumors of an Elimination Chamber. That's what might happen.

[KingofOldSchool]

Hahahahaha.

Triple H sounded like a 3 year old in the toy aisle at Wal*Mart.

HHH: Puh-wease Daddy, can I puh-wease have the firetruck?
Vince: We'll see Hunter...
HHH: Bbbbbbbut I've been a good boy...I cleaned up my room today. I even picked up all of my WWE action figures. Can I puh-wease have it daddy!?

[JT]

who else would mark out if all of a sudden when Bischoff was talking about the World Title Cena comes from behind and gives Eric the FU...?

Hmm...no offense, but that sounds worst than anything else they did this year.

[KingofOldSchool]

I heard rumors of an Elimination Chamber. That's what might happen.

Those rumors have been around for the last two weeks...

[Volchok]

next monday is gonna be Mark Out Monday on Raw...

[Joe Kerr]

so no RAW next week? Wrestling Rerun lol

[JT]

Eric (thinking to himself): Hmmm...McMahon and Russo both made themselves champ.

[VJW]

*VJW hands Hunter his snot rag and joins in the sobbing*

And this is what will start the next Wrestling Boom Period my friends . . .

[The Naitch]

someone tell me what happened in the Hassan segment. :)

[Gone Mad]

Is it necessary they must come out to their themes just for this?

Every week, I think I say this.. but HHH looks like ALF to me sometimes.. look at his nose!

[Nervous Ferret]

-Foley talked bout' how greeat America is
-Hassan interrupted
-Foley challenged hassan to a match
-Hassan walked away

[Joe Kerr]

someone tell me what happened in the Hassan segment. :)


Just argued with Mick Foley...nothing happened but was a great Segment

[The Naitch]

lol I mark out for ALF.

[The Answer]

From crying to boosting :rofl:

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Edison

Get Out! I'm from Jersey too.

North Brunswick.

[The Answer]

War games

Edit:Well it sounded like it

[Nervous Ferret]

elimination chamber

[JT]

Is it necessary they must come out to their themes just for this?

Every week, I think I say this.. but HHH looks like ALF to me sometimes.. look at his nose!

Think he looks bad...have you seen Scott Hall recently.

[Joe Kerr]

So who do you think is going to eventually end up with the belt at New years revolution. in the Elimination Chamber

[Shadow]

Elimination Chamba! Whaoooooo!

[VJW]

This better be a much better Elimination Chamber match than the previous one . . .

[Nervous Ferret]

Ferret Out!!!!

Batista/Orton

[Joe Kerr]

Im going with Orton or Batista....I want Jericho though

[Shadow]

NO HHH in the EC?

Can you smell ratings?

[The Answer]

I like it what a match

[Shadow]

I wasn't listening folks. Sorry.

[Splaya]

Allow me to decipher this.


New Years Revolution

Revolution

Evolution = HHH

HHH regains the title at NYR

[Joe Kerr]

RKO on the ramp PLEEEEAAASSSEEEE

[John la Rock]

WIcked :y:

Who's in the chamber?

[JT]

On;y if Jericho had a chance of winning. :(

[Gone Mad]

Think he looks bad...have you seen Scott Hall recently.

Yup.. that is pretty bad. Nevermind my ALF theory, you got me.

[Joe Kerr]

Damn.......RKO in the ring..........on Batista

[Shadow]

Also...the crowd was sorta dead for that. Anyone else notice that?

[The Answer]

NO HHH in the EC?

Can you smell ratings?

Did I miss something HHH is in the EC match

[Splaya]

Wait. I didn't mark out for the RKO on Batista.


Oh man I might be a bigger Tista mark than an Orton mark

[KingofOldSchool]

Allow me to decipher this.


New Years Revolution

Revolution

Evolution = HHH

HHH regains the title at NYR


Holy obvious Batman!

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Elimination chamber on RAW?

[Shadow]

Did I miss something HHH is in the EC match

Wasn't listening.

[The Answer]

Allow me to decipher this.


New Years Revolution

Revolution

Evolution = HHH

HHH regains the title at NYR

What about Batista?

[The Answer]

Elimination chamber on RAW?

No at New Years Revolution PPV

[Joe Kerr]

so predictions on the order of elimintaion anyone.

[JT]

What about Batista?

Batista is a member of Evolution.

HHH is Evolution.

[Volchok]

who see's it being down to Triple H and Batista...

[Hardkore Kidd J]

No at New Years Revolution PPV

Oh I kept on hearing Elimination chanber and I was thinking :eek: on Raw.

[Gone Mad]

Good grief, all of you are wrong. HHH isn't gonna win, RKO isn't gonna win, and Batista will not win either. Only one other choice (sorry, Benny and ..) and that is... Y2J, BABY! Wooo!! ..Or maybe it'll be Batista. Who knows?

[Boondock Saint]

This better be a much better Elimination Chamber match than the previous one . . .

Well that one did have Nash and Goldberg...shall be quite hard to top.

[The Answer]

so predictions on the order of elimintaion anyone.

1)Benoit
2)Jericho
3)Edge
4)Batista
5)HHH

Winner:Randy Orton

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm going to go with either Jericho, Triple H or Batista winning. I really don't think they'll put the title on Orton this un-epicly into his chase. Actually, if they have Orton win, they could build to Orton vs. The Rock at Mania. Although a cocky champion Randy Orton vs. a desperate and title appriciative Triple H could work.

I hope the order of elimination and entry looks like this:

Entry
1. Chris Jericho
2. Triple H
3. Randy Orton
4. Batista
5. Chris Benoit
6. Edge

Order of Elimination
1. Triple H pinned by Edge
2. Chris Benoit pinned by Batista
3. Edge pinned by Jericho
4. Batista pinned by Orton
5. Orton submits to Jericho
Winner: Chris Jericho

Won't happen, but I can dream.

So how's the card shaping up for NYR?

Elimination Chamber for the World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. Edge vs. Batista

Singles Match
Muhammad Hassan vs. Mick Foley

WWE Intercontinental Championship
Shelton Benjamin vs. Maven

WWE Women's Championship
Lita vs. Trish Stratus
Special Guest Referee: Gene Snitsky

World Tag Team Championship
William Regal & Eugene vs. Christian & Tyson Tomko

That isn't confirmed, and Foley would unlikely be in the house for NYR, but it would be good if he did a clean job to Hassan as I mentioned earlier.

[KingofOldSchool]

Don't forget Christian and Tomko vs. Eugene and Regal for the tag titles.

[Gouda]

One of two things will happen:

1) Elimination Chamber: HHH, Batista, Bentoit, Edge, Orton, Jericho. (At the PPV, not on Raw)

Sweet Raw.

Randy Orton vs. Edge kept me thoroughly entertained. It's been the first Randy Orton match in a while that I've enjoyed. That RKO was sweet too... namely cause it was the non-jumping kind which comes from nowhere.

The Foley/Hussan segment was great too. I was worried that Hassan might get a little flustered in actual live promos, but that was far from it. If he's got the in ring skills to back it up, I see big things for this guy. :y:

Hurray for the wall of fire! But.... Did Lita say to Snitsky "despite all your efforts, I am the Women's Champion"? Since when was Snitsky ever putting any effort in to making sure Lita wasn't the Women's Champ?

I'm loving the Batista angle more and more.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sweet Raw.

Randy Orton vs. Edge kept me thoroughly entertained. It's been the first Randy Orton match in a while that I've enjoyed. That RKO was sweet too... namely cause it was the non-jumping kind which comes from nowhere.

The Foley/Hussan segment was great too. I was worried that Hassan might get a little flustered in actual live promos, but that was far from it. If he's got the in ring skills to back it up, I see big things for this guy. :y:

Hurray for the wall of fire! But.... Did Lita say to Snitsky "despite all your efforts, I am the Women's Champion"? Since when was Snitsky ever putting any effort in to making sure Lita wasn't the Women's Champ?

I'm loving the Batista angle more and more.

Yeah, that's something Lita does. She tries to put the emotion in, but she can't get the facts straight and it comes off looking a bit silly. I would have liked seeing Eric Bischoff strip Lita of the title on RAW. Just because she didn't qualify for a match or something, then have the big match where Lita wins the title happen on PPV at NYR.

[KingofOldSchool]

I think what she was meaning was that all of Snitsky's efforts to bring her spirits down with the constant baby jokes, she came through and won the title despite all of that.

[Azriel]

What an awesome RAW. The opening match between Orton and Edge was really good. The tag match was intense, and I had to laugh when Batista won. The look on HHH's face was priceless.

And can you say Foley is God? Seriously, one of the best promos of the year. Hassan already has the mic skills which will take him far. Having the manager is fairly pointless then. I can't wait to see how he is in the ring. As for the Elimination Chamber, it's going to come down to Batista/HHH/Orton with HHH eliminating Batista. After that, who's to say? Who was that diva with Eric by the way? I didn't recognize her from the Diva search?

[Nervous Ferret]

my prediction: No champ till' NYR ;) *runs away*

[Azriel]

wasn't too hard to guess that one. Personally, I think having the Elimination Chamber every year is wearing out its novelty, but that's just me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What an awesome RAW. The opening match between Orton and Edge was really good. The tag match was intense, and I had to laugh when Batista won. The look on HHH's face was priceless.

And can you say Foley is God? Seriously, one of the best promos of the year. Hassan already has the mic skills which will take him far. Having the manager is fairly pointless then. I can't wait to see how he is in the ring. As for the Elimination Chamber, it's going to come down to Batista/HHH/Orton with HHH eliminating Batista. After that, who's to say? Who was that diva with Eric by the way? I didn't recognize her from the Diva search?

I haven't see RAW, so I wouldn't know. I hope it was Lulu (Nidia's cousin) from OVW, though. I don't know why, but ever since before Eric Bischoff went on "vacation" I pictured him bringing Lulu back from his holiday. It was probably just someone off the street, though.

[Azriel]

It looked like one of the diva rejects, but now you mention it, I think that was Lulu.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It is now being reported that prior to RAW, Ric Flair and Mick Foley got inot a verbal confrontation backstage, which advanced to a physical incident, when Flair threw a punch at Foley, which reportedly connected.

Also, Eric Bischoff came out when RAW went off the air and forced Triple H to participate to a match against Randy Orton right there and then, and if he didn't agree he would lose his spot in the Elimination Chamber. Randy Orton then proceeded to beat Triple H in a 20 minute match with an RKO, cleanly. A lot of fans stayed behind and really enjoyed the match, reportedly.

[Azriel]

whats the sense of having a match after the show went off the air?

Oh, by the way the new diva is Rochelle Loewen. Supposedly she did Playboy, so there's a perk right there.
Here's her site: http://www.rochelle-loewen.com/index.html

[zach]

repotedly, it is now being reported that the overuse of the word report is out of control, reportedly.

[Mr. Nerfect]

repotedly, it is now being reported that the overuse of the word report is out of control, reportedly.

The word report is an English word, which tends to come up in a sentence talking about reported incidents, considering nothing "official" is known. ;)

And wow, Rochelle Loewen is hot. I would have no objection to her sticking around, especially as a valet to Randy Orton or Evolution.

[Volchok]

whats with Raw signing all these divas.. why didnt they just keep the ones they had? and whats with that one that Orton signed? she is freaking UGLY!

[PorkSoda]

When Mohammed came out and interuppted Mic I thought The Rock was coming out with his music.

[Londoner]

I got a feeling Ortons gonna eliminate HHH, then its down to orton and edge and edge wins, thats the only way i can see HHH not being in the last two.

[Mr. Nerfect]

whats with Raw signing all these divas.. why didnt they just keep the ones they had? and whats with that one that Orton signed? she is freaking UGLY!

I seriously don't know why they didn't keep Gail Kim. She's one of the best from both sides of the equation. And Jazz had that charatcer. You know it's just a matter of time before they create another Jazz-like character for their "division".

And this news of a different direction for the division, it could really be a bad move, and I don't say that often about the WWE. I remember my mum coming over for dinner one night when RAW was on. She got disgusted when Trish Startus and Molly Holly came on. She said it was degrading to women, but I told these two actually wrestled. She watched and was pleased that they didn't do a strip-show. I know that may not be much, but fans of wrestling prefer wrestling to cheap T & A (I hope), and having this sex appeal as a basis to yout "Women's" division (just call it the Diva or Slut division already) can actually turn a few people away, and it is why the WWE may have so many "enemies" if you will. When making those enemies cannot be avoided a lot of the time, when it is avoidable, and when making those enemies does nothing for your business, it really can be looked upon as a dodgy move.

Anyway, I don't know if you are referring to Candace Michelle or Melina Perez as the diva Orton hired. Candace doesn't exactly look like a model, and her voice is a bit off-note, but she does have a nice body, and if she served a purpose in the WWE, then I'd be glad to have her aboard. She could have worked really well as a manager to Trish Stratus or something. Maybe just something like Eric Bischoff's sister (Eugene's mother) in a part-time role. I hope she's actually training to wrestle through this.

Melina can actually wrestle (I think), but I'm just basing this on the fact she's from OVW. There is a fairly good crop of women's wrestlers down there (To my understanding, one can do a 450 Splash. I think it may have been Jillian Hall.), and they really should be used by the WWE. Melina looks really nice with her hair down, and she would work really well with Johnny Nitro & Danny Inferno should the WWE call them up to RAW.

[Volchok]

yeah its Melina... i dont know to me she dont look that attractive... Candace does.. but Melina... blah