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ColdwaVer
12-28-2004, 08:46 PM
Cruiserweight Title History (http://www.wwe.com/inside/title_history/cruiserweight/)
This latest entry in the new title history section recognizes the WCW history of the Cruiserweight title. Pretty amazing seeing as how WWE very seldom recognizes any connections between current titles with WCW history. No recognition between the current World Heavyweight title and the WCW title, so it kinda makes me wonder. I'm interested in seeing what kind of recognition the US title gets.
The crusierweight title IS the same championship though.
ColdwaVer
12-28-2004, 09:00 PM
The crusierweight title IS the same championship though.
You think that WWE would let something like that fact get in the way of what they wanted? I'm just amazed that they actually mention that something they currently use came from outside the company.
Loose Cannon
12-28-2004, 09:04 PM
Boy that Title really went downhill for a while after Mysterio dropped it to Lane
I would imagine it's because it has always been active. It was merged with the Light Heavyweight title and they decided to keep the cruiserweight name. (Which I like a lot better than "Light Heavyweight".) I bet if it had remained the WWF Light Heavyweight title, it would have gone back to the WWE's history and not WCW's.
The World title was inactive for a while, so it didn't carry over the history from WCW. It may be the same way with the US title, it will be WWE only because it was inactive.
However, my theory is sort of shot down because the Women's title goes all the way back to the Fabulous Moolah. But who cares about that title, right? :shifty:
ColdwaVer
12-28-2004, 09:23 PM
I would imagine it's because it has always been active. It was merged with the Light Heavyweight title and they decided to keep the cruiserweight name. (Which I like a lot better than "Light Heavyweight".) I bet if it had remained the WWF Light Heavyweight title, it would have gone back to the WWE's history and not WCW's.
The World title was inactive for a while, so it didn't carry over the history from WCW. It may be the same way with the US title, it will be WWE only because it was inactive.
However, my theory is sort of shot down because the Women's title goes all the way back to the Fabulous Moolah. But who cares about that title, right? :shifty:
Well the women's title has more gaps in it than Benoit has in his teeth.
Corkscrewed
12-28-2004, 09:24 PM
*rimshot*
:lol:
Gouda
12-28-2004, 10:04 PM
Ha ha ha ha.
"The flamboyant Lenny Lane defeated Rey Mysterio for the Cruiserweight Championship in Lubbock, TX, in August 1999. The victory appeared to be just what Lane needed to boost his career into overdrive. But then out of nowhere, WCW stripped Lane of the Cruiserweight Championship without ever giving an explanation. In an equally baffling move, WCW then gave the title to Psicosis - again, without offering explanation."
:lol:
The One
12-29-2004, 02:05 PM
If you recall when there was the tournament for the new US Champ they talked about how this title was the same one that Sgt. Slaughter, Ric Flair, and Steve Austin once held...then again they say the title HHH has Ric Flair once had...ahhhhhhhh fuck it. WWE doesn't give a shit about title liniage, why should I?
Disturbed316
12-29-2004, 06:06 PM
That feud between Jericho and Malenko was amazing.
Evolution
12-29-2004, 07:56 PM
Slaughter was US champ? when was he in WCW?
Gouda
12-29-2004, 08:59 PM
That feud between Jericho and Malenko was amazing.
Jericho at that time was amazing. With all his loopholes... demasking Juvy... Ralphus....Classic.
Hollywood Red
12-29-2004, 09:08 PM
SCOTTY FLAMINGO
June 20, 1992 - July 5, 1992
Today's wrestling fans may not recognize the name Scotty Falmingo, however, chances are they have seen him before. Scotty has since changed his name to Raven. As Scotty Flamingo, however, he enjoyed his biggest victory when he defeated Brian Pillman for the Cruiserweight Championship at Beach Blast 1992. Unfortunately for Flamingo, he only held the title for a few weeks before losing it to Brad Armstrong.
I wonder what exactly they're saying with that.
Raven himself had his biggest win, or AS Scotty Flamingo he had his biggest win. The latter would be fine, but the former just craps on Raven and I hope that's not their intent.
Loose Cannon
12-29-2004, 09:09 PM
Slaughter was US champ? when was he in WCW?
Early Early 80's. Flair, Slaughter, Piper, Steamboat all held it back then
Loose Cannon
12-29-2004, 09:11 PM
SCOTTY FLAMINGO
June 20, 1992 - July 5, 1992
Today's wrestling fans may not recognize the name Scotty Falmingo, however, chances are they have seen him before. Scotty has since changed his name to Raven. As Scotty Flamingo, however, he enjoyed his biggest victory when he defeated Brian Pillman for the Cruiserweight Championship at Beach Blast 1992. Unfortunately for Flamingo, he only held the title for a few weeks before losing it to Brad Armstrong.
I wonder what exactly they're saying that.
Raven himself had his biggest win, or AS Scotty Flamingo he had his biggest win. The latter would be fine, but the former just craps on Raven and I hope that's not their intent.
They're saying "as the character of Scotty Flamingo" he had his biggest win. In other words they are only talking about that character, not all his other characters.
The CyNick
12-29-2004, 11:20 PM
I would imagine it's because it has always been active. It was merged with the Light Heavyweight title and they decided to keep the cruiserweight name. (Which I like a lot better than "Light Heavyweight".) I bet if it had remained the WWF Light Heavyweight title, it would have gone back to the WWE's history and not WCW's.
The World title was inactive for a while, so it didn't carry over the history from WCW. It may be the same way with the US title, it will be WWE only because it was inactive.
However, my theory is sort of shot down because the Women's title goes all the way back to the Fabulous Moolah. But who cares about that title, right? :shifty:
The World title on RAW is not the same as the WCW title. Never was. The WCW title is part of the SD title.
M-A-G
12-31-2004, 10:12 AM
Slaughter was US champ? when was he in WCW?
I believe the title was recognized before the formation of WCW in the NWA but it just carried onto WCW. I might be wrong though.
The World title on RAW is not the same as the WCW title. Never was. The WCW title is part of the SD title.
That's true, but a lot of people say it's the WCW title. Even the announcers when Bischoff gave it to Triple H, they said it was the old WCW title. (Although they could have meant the model.) Plus the fact that they always state that Flair has held it.
Believe me, if it were logical, it wouldn't be the WCW title. But this is WWE we're talking about, the oxymoron to "logic".
Savio
12-31-2004, 03:36 PM
daffney was the best crusier champ.
Mr. Nerfect
12-31-2004, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I think of the WCW Championship as unified with the WWE Championship, but the model is used to house a new World Title.
I can't wait until they add the US Title to their page. I think they'll call it a new title, however, despite Booker T claiming to be a two-time WWE US Champion.
FourFifty
01-01-2005, 12:14 AM
In speaking of the WWE paying respect to title history, let's look at the world title history!
http://www.wwe.com/inside/title_history/world_hvywght/
Click on that link of joy. All I have to say is can someone please pass me a gun? I'm going to kill myself... Metaphorically speaking.
Mr. Nerfect
01-01-2005, 04:50 PM
In speaking of the WWE paying respect to title history, let's look at the world title history!
http://www.wwe.com/inside/title_history/world_hvywght/
Click on that link of joy. All I have to say is can someone please pass me a gun? I'm going to kill myself... Metaphorically speaking.
But that is the World Heavyweight Championship's history. :-\
Dorkchop
01-01-2005, 06:27 PM
Tajiri and Rhyno are former US champs.
The Mackem
01-01-2005, 06:40 PM
What after Malenko beat Jericho, he was stripped? That is one of my favourite moments in WCW history :mad:
The CyNick
01-01-2005, 08:24 PM
There is a debate among some fans saying that the RAW Hevayweight title is the WCW title brought back. But if you follow the storylines, and logic, thats not the case.
Bischoff brought back the physical WCW championship, or at least a replica of it, and used it as the belt to represent a new championship.
However, just because he created a new championship that doesn't mean he has the right to steal the lineage of the WCW title, which is merged with the WWE title, which is the SD Heavyweight championship currently held by JBL.
Ive had this arguement with many other people, and even though I always win, frankly I'm exhausted from it. I'll sum it up by saying this: I can start up a new promotion and get a replica of the old WWF or AWA or WCW or any other promotion's title. But just because I have a physcial title that looks the same as an old belt, it doesn't mean I get to take that title's lineage. I wouldn't have that right. Similarly Bischoff didn't have that right. Therefore the RAW title only dates back as far as Bischoff pulling the title out of the briefcase and giving it to HHH.
Case closed.
Loose Cannon
01-01-2005, 08:30 PM
Wait, now I'm confused. Help me out here
Jericho became the first Undisputed Champ. Now those belts were WWF and WCW World Titles right?
Now, how did they become one Title again?
Mike the Metal Ed
01-01-2005, 08:34 PM
They became the WWF Undisputed Championship the second Jericho beat Austin for the WWF Title, even when it was both belts, it was the Undisputed Title.
When HHH won the belts off Jericho at Wrestlemania X8, they merged them into one Championship belt, now JBL's WWE Title, it lost its "undisputed" moniker, when Bisch brought in the World Heavyweight Title, since Smackdown's title was now disputed,.
Loose Cannon
01-01-2005, 08:37 PM
Ok, so the WWF Undisputed Title was different looking than the one JBL holds right now?
In other words, there was a WCW Title and a WWF Title. Did the WWF Title look the same as the one JBL has now?
The CyNick
01-01-2005, 08:40 PM
Hunter was the first guy who used the Undisputed title (same physical title JBL has). That was given to him the night after Mania 02. Up until that point they were using the old WWF and WCW titles.
Mr. Nerfect
01-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Yeah, the WWF Title the round one that was present in 2000 and 2001 (I'm not sure how far the actual belt goes back, probably to 1998 I think) and the "World Title" (The WWE's name for the WCW Title, which became just a rank for the most valueble titles) were both won by Chris Jericho at Vengeance 2001. He was officially the first-ever Undisputed Champion.
Triple H won the title at WrestleMania X8, and then fused the belts together. Even though it probably isn't, I like to think that he had both titles melted down, then used them to create a new title belt. This is still the Undisputed Championship with its own lineage (Chris Jericho and Triple H), that then splits and one direction leads back to Buddy Rogers (The WWF Title), and the other goes back to the old NWA days.
IMO, this is how title unifications should be done. When Edge took both the IC Title and the US Title, he should have come out with a new belt and called it the United Continental Championship or something. When RVD unified the Hardcore Title and the IC Title, he should have come up with a new strap that sort of reflected the Hardcore lineage, without making the title look like trash of course. Maybe have something that looked like the ECW Hevayweight Title? When RVD unified the European Championship and the IC Championship, they could have had three little plates put on three strap, either side of the feature plate that respresented the regions that make up the IC Title (North American, South American and European). When Triple H beat RVD to unify the World Heavyweight and IC Titles, he could have had some kind of new belt created. Maybe have one side of the title look like the original World Heavyweight Championship, while the other one looks like the new IC Title.
I also dislike it when titles are brought back after unifications. Austin bringing back the IC Title, as much as I like the belt, and as much as I love what it does for people, I would have preferred it if Austin took the old model, tweaked it a little and called it the new North American Championship, then Stephanie McMahon could create a new South Amercian Championship, and eventually we can see a new IC Championship formed.
Anyway, The Undisputed Championship became property of Hulk Hogan (6 times in the WWF Title's history, 7 times in the WCW Title's history), The Undertaker (4 in the WWF's history, 1 in the WCW's history), The Rock (7 in the WWF's history, 3 in WCW's history) and finally Brock Lesnar (1 and 1 respectively). Lesnar then went exclusively to SmackDown!, so Eric created a new belt which LOOKED like the WCW Championship, and made a new World Title. The World Heavyweight Championship has been held by Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Triple H (2), Goldberg, Triple H (3), Chris Benoit, Randy Orton, Triple H (4) and is now up for grabs in the Elimination Chamber at New Year's Revoultion.
The Undisputed Championship has since had a name change (since it is not undisputed) and is now known as the WWE Championship. It has now been held by The Big Show (2-times WWF, 3-times WCW), Kurt Angle (3-times WWF, 2-times WCW), Brock Lesnar (2 and 2), Kurt Angle (4-WWF, 3-WCW), Brock Lesnar (3 and 3), Eddie Guerrero (1 and 1) and finally John Bradshaw Layfield (1 and 1). So, IMO, the WWE Championship's primary history is:
1. Chris Jericho
2. Triple H
3. Hulk Hogan *First-ever man to win the title having previously held both its main components.*
4. The Undertaker
5. The Rock
6. Brock Lesnar *First-ever man to win the title without holding one of its components first.*
7. The Big Show
8. Kurt Angle
9. Brock Lesnar (2) *First-ever man to win it twice.*
10. Kurt Angle (2) *First-ever man to win it twice, while holding both of the title's components pre-unification.*
11. Brock Lesnar (3) *First ever three-time Champion.*
12. Eddie Guerrero
13. John Bradshaw Layfield *Longest reign to date, post-unification.*
Although a deeper look at the backing titles takes us to much more fascinating title histories. I wish they'd release a DVD-set with all four World Championships involved (WWF, WCW, WWE and WH).
Anyway, I'm not sure if the title history is up or not, but although I stated the opposite previously, I would consider the US Title the same as the WCW US Title, quite simply because the WWE considers the IC Title the same as the original. Although the new US Title had a different design and was property of the opposite brand. I consider the way the IC and US Titles were unified and the way the WWF and WCW Titles were unified different. I picture it like a folder in a computer drive. You have a folder for each championship. The way the WWF and WCW titles were unified created a new folder to put in both titles, while the way the US and IC Titles were unified (and the way the IC and World Heavyweight Titles were), was that one title's folder was clicked, dragged and dropped into the other's folder.
Most people won't read what I just wrote, so I will give rep to anyone who can tell me what the 304th word was, and what I would have done with the IC Championship after it absorbed the European Championship respectively. :shifty:
Outsider
01-02-2005, 03:40 PM
304th word was "world"
And you think the European Championship should be represented by a plate on a new "Intercontental" belt :)
Rep me asshole
Mr. Nerfect
01-02-2005, 05:52 PM
304th word was "world"
And you think the European Championship should be represented by a plate on a new "Intercontental" belt :)
Rep me asshole
I can't be bothered to read what the 304th word is, so I'll just take your word for it.
Outsider
01-02-2005, 09:22 PM
I just used word to figure it out, took seconds
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2005, 01:18 AM
I just used word to figure it out, took seconds
LOL, I know. No one can ever be bothered to read (or count) my work.
Evolution
01-03-2005, 05:04 PM
I read it all, and I support your theory 98.75%. Just the new titles for unifying IC and US, European and IC, IC and World. The way they did it was fine, and to help prove this, I will use your analogy of PC folders.
When the IC folder was put into the WH folder, the folder disappeared from view, but it was still there adding to the content of the WH folder. Same when Euro was put in IC folder. And US into IC folder. And HC into Euro folder.
But because they are in the same folder, at some point down the line, we can copy one of the interior folders (eg. IC) and paste it onto "desktop", giving us a folder with another folder and history inside it, AND a carbon copy of the folder with the same lineage. This folder looks the same as the one inside the other folder, but we can add to this one without effecting the other one.
So with the IC belt that Shelton Bejamin holds now looking the same as the one Kane held when the 2 became unified (yeah, sorry it was Kane not RVD) it carries the same lineage without taking anything from the currently vacant World title.
However, we can change the appearance of our folder should we so wish, which is what happened when the US title was brought out of retirement.
Wow, that's gotta be one of my longest ever replies.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2005, 05:38 PM
I read it all, and I support your theory 98.75%. Just the new titles for unifying IC and US, European and IC, IC and World. The way they did it was fine, and to help prove this, I will use your analogy of PC folders.
When the IC folder was put into the WH folder, the folder disappeared from view, but it was still there adding to the content of the WH folder. Same when Euro was put in IC folder. And US into IC folder. And HC into Euro folder.
But because they are in the same folder, at some point down the line, we can copy one of the interior folders (eg. IC) and paste it onto "desktop", giving us a folder with another folder and history inside it, AND a carbon copy of the folder with the same lineage. This folder looks the same as the one inside the other folder, but we can add to this one without effecting the other one.
So with the IC belt that Shelton Bejamin holds now looking the same as the one Kane held when the 2 became unified (yeah, sorry it was Kane not RVD) it carries the same lineage without taking anything from the currently vacant World title.
However, we can change the appearance of our folder should we so wish, which is what happened when the US title was brought out of retirement.
Wow, that's gotta be one of my longest ever replies.
Great post. And that's for reading my long post. :y:
I was just going to revive this thread with comments on the US Title, but I'll get to them later.
I agree with everything you said about the titles, and it is interesting to entertain the idea that the title has been "recorded" if you will in the World Heavyweight Championship. So in a way if you win the IC Title, you win a portion of the World Heavyweight Championship.
It makes for an entertaining look on the titles, but it makes you wonder, should titles be replicated? Should you be able to leave the history in a belt, while creating a copy in its shadow? I don't mind that idea, because it takes nothing away from either title. There is no denying the history of the IC Title is great, and by bringing that back you don't take anything away from the World Heavyweight Championship. I still don't know if it is right to have a title in the World Heavywieght Championship as well as out in the open as well.
What would be interesting is if the IC Title is sitll officially property of the World Heavyweight Championship, but under command of the GM, it became a contested part of the title. I don't quite think I'm putting this right, but if the World Heavyweight Championship was sent over to SD!, the SD! GM would have control over the IC Championship as well. The title has been removed form under the WHC, but it is still officially connected to it, by that unification. This way the IC Title gets more prestege, while still remaining a part of the WHC.
Anyway, I'm not sure that made sense, but your idea certainly did, so we'll leave it at that.
Now for the WCW United States Title/WWE United States Title relationship. I believe now that these titles are not one in the same. Why? Because I'm not sure if Edge ever unified the IC and US Titles. From memory he only won both titles, then at the end of the night, whichever entity won (Alliance: United States, WWE: Intercontinental), that title would become legal, while the other would become defunct, dying with the company that spawned it. WCW US Champion Edge (from the WWE) defeated the Alliance's Test for the IC Championship (The US Championship was contested in that match as well), and when the Alliance was destroyed that night, so was the US Title.
That night the Alliance was obliterated, as was the WCW United States Championship. The title wasn't just vacated, because Vince McMahon wasn't like that. He wanted to eradicate all traces of WCW, save the ones he wanted to claim as his prizes. I don't know why, but I consider the US Title the soul of WCW. It was not the biggest, or the best, but it symbolised work ethic, and recognised talent that made the company possible. That's what mid-card titles mean to me, and if it means the same to Vince (from a storyline point of view), by destroying the US Title it meant destroying the soul of WCW, and getting back at them for the damage they tried to do. I believe the same was done to the WCW Tag Team Championship, which is why the WWE Tag Team Championship has its own history, and that's why I think the US Championship on SD!, should be a seperate title.
Although I love the old belt, and appreciate it, from a storyline point of view, destroying it would make the whole Invasion angle seem more important. Although the WWE probably considers it the same belt. It's up to them I guess.
Evolution
01-03-2005, 06:55 PM
Great post. And that's for reading my long post. :y:
I was just going to revive this thread with comments on the US Title, but I'll get to them later.
I agree with everything you said about the titles, and it is interesting to entertain the idea that the title has been "recorded" if you will in the World Heavyweight Championship. So in a way if you win the IC Title, you win a portion of the World Heavyweight Championship.
It makes for an entertaining look on the titles, but it makes you wonder, should titles be replicated? Should you be able to leave the history in a belt, while creating a copy in its shadow? I don't mind that idea, because it takes nothing away from either title. There is no denying the history of the IC Title is great, and by bringing that back you don't take anything away from the World Heavyweight Championship. I still don't know if it is right to have a title in the World Heavywieght Championship as well as out in the open as well.
What would be interesting is if the IC Title is sitll officially property of the World Heavyweight Championship, but under command of the GM, it became a contested part of the title. I don't quite think I'm putting this right, but if the World Heavyweight Championship was sent over to SD!, the SD! GM would have control over the IC Championship as well. The title has been removed form under the WHC, but it is still officially connected to it, by that unification. This way the IC Title gets more prestege, while still remaining a part of the WHC.
Anyway, I'm not sure that made sense, but your idea certainly did, so we'll leave it at that.
Now for the WCW United States Title/WWE United States Title relationship. I believe now that these titles are not one in the same. Why? Because I'm not sure if Edge ever unified the IC and US Titles. From memory he only won both titles, then at the end of the night, whichever entity won (Alliance: United States, WWE: Intercontinental), that title would become legal, while the other would become defunct, dying with the company that spawned it. WCW US Champion Edge (from the WWE) defeated the Alliance's Test for the IC Championship (The US Championship was contested in that match as well), and when the Alliance was destroyed that night, so was the US Title.
That night the Alliance was obliterated, as was the WCW United States Championship. The title wasn't just vacated, because Vince McMahon wasn't like that. He wanted to eradicate all traces of WCW, save the ones he wanted to claim as his prizes. I don't know why, but I consider the US Title the soul of WCW. It was not the biggest, or the best, but it symbolised work ethic, and recognised talent that made the company possible. That's what mid-card titles mean to me, and if it means the same to Vince (from a storyline point of view), by destroying the US Title it meant destroying the soul of WCW, and getting back at them for the damage they tried to do. I believe the same was done to the WCW Tag Team Championship, which is why the WWE Tag Team Championship has its own history, and that's why I think the US Championship on SD!, should be a seperate title.
Although I love the old belt, and appreciate it, from a storyline point of view, destroying it would make the whole Invasion angle seem more important. Although the WWE probably considers it the same belt. It's up to them I guess.
I think you are right about the Test/Edge match. I always remember it not as a unification match, but just to determine who will hold what belt when one company is destroyed.
So because Edge had the IC and US belts when WWF won, Edge was the IC champion. If the Alliance had won, Edge would have been the WCW US champ. The other title, along with its lineage was destryed, but not forgotten.
So when the WWE says the US title has been held by such greats as Juvi Guerrera, Chris Jericho, Steve Austin (just throwing out names here, not sure if they're right) WWE is technically correct.
These people have been United States Champion, just not WWE United States Champion. They were WCW United States Champions.
So even though the WWE has created this new title with no history of its own, they are comparing it to an established title that is now defunct, and this title is in its place (although it is terribly tacky looking, though not as bad as Cenas). It's kind of like the "New Improved US Title!" When a company does away with one of its top sellers and produces something similar but different to it in some way, we have the old with the new. That's how I see this title scene. While it may not be the WCW United States Championship, it's WWE's replacement for it.
Boondock Saint
01-03-2005, 07:24 PM
Wow, trying to keep this all straight is confusing as hell.
My question, do the current World Tag Titles on RAW, technically contain the WCW tag titles as well? Since those two were unified...by I forget. I seem to recall the Summerslam match in 2001 with Taker/Kane against Kanyon/DDP in a cage a unification tag title match...but then at Survivor Series 01, it was Hardyz vs Dudleyz in a cage for ANOTHER unification match?
Then after the invasion, there was only one set of tag belts, and shortly after the roster split, Team Canada defected from Smackdown to RAW and brought the current RAW tag straps with them, correct? Thus forcing Stephanie to create BRAND NEW WWE Tag Titles with no previous history. However the current World Tag Titles contain the WCW and WWF history?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I haven't looked at the WWE.com page yet either.
The CyNick
01-03-2005, 08:46 PM
IC title was unified with the US title. That was promoted as a unification match. Therefore, I think the current version of the US title being used by SD does NOT have the lineage back to WCW. It only goes as far as Eddie winning the tourny against Benoit.
I think the lineage of the IC title is in tact because it was unified with the WHC under the watch of the RAW brand. And then was also back back into circulation by the same brand. Therefore, IMO that means the IC title maintains its lineage.
The RAW tag belts are the combination of the WCW and WWF tag title belts. Those two titles were also unified into one. The belts were on SD, but then moved over to RAW, but I would say they maintain their lineage as well. The SD tag titles only go back as far as the tounry in 02.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2005, 11:48 PM
IC title was unified with the US title. That was promoted as a unification match. Therefore, I think the current version of the US title being used by SD does NOT have the lineage back to WCW. It only goes as far as Eddie winning the tourny against Benoit.
I think the lineage of the IC title is in tact because it was unified with the WHC under the watch of the RAW brand. And then was also back back into circulation by the same brand. Therefore, IMO that means the IC title maintains its lineage.
The RAW tag belts are the combination of the WCW and WWF tag title belts. Those two titles were also unified into one. The belts were on SD, but then moved over to RAW, but I would say they maintain their lineage as well. The SD tag titles only go back as far as the tounry in 02.
It was billed as a unification match, but I remember during the match Heyman kept going through the history of each belt and saying one would cease to exist after that night. The same thing with the tag titles. It would make sense if they were unified, as in combined, but I think they just meant unified as in one champion would represent both titles. Whether or not the US Championship is contained in the IC Title or not is not explained. Either way I think the WWE US Championship is a whole different ball game.
Evolution
01-05-2005, 03:07 AM
I think it would have been good if when they unified the tag titles one guy had the WWF belt and the other had the WCW belt. Like Jericho had the WCW title and the WWF title? If Dudleyz won the unified titles, have Bubba have a WWF tag belt and D'Von have a WCW belt.
IMO anyways.
Mr. Nerfect
01-05-2005, 04:19 AM
I think it would have been good if when they unified the tag titles one guy had the WWF belt and the other had the WCW belt. Like Jericho had the WCW title and the WWF title? If Dudleyz won the unified titles, have Bubba have a WWF tag belt and D'Von have a WCW belt.
IMO anyways.
That sorta makes sense, but I'd be just as happy to see them both wear two titles. After all they are the champions of both, and I see no reason why they should trip that down.
Then when the rosters split, you can have the World Tag Team Championship (with WCW history) go to RAW, then have the WWE Tag Team Championship go to SmackDown! (with the WWE) history. You could then have The Dudleys go to either RAW or SmackDown! as the champs, have them appear on both shows as their champions, and when they lose a set, they just go to the other brand full-time. The other option is D-Von goes to SmackDown! as one half of the new WWE Tag Team Champions while Bubba Ray goes to RAW as one half of the World Tag Team Champions.
The same could be done with the WWE Cruiserweight Championship (RAW), WWE Light Heavyweight Championship (SmackDown!), WWE United States Championship (RAW), WWE Intercontinental Championship (SmackDown!), World Championship (RAW), WWE Championship (SmackDown!).
To be honest, I'd rather see both titles melted down and fused together to form an "ultra" form of what each title originally stood for.
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