Official New Years Revolution Thread

[Evolution]

Ok, lets see what Edge can do here.

[The Answer]

Edgeecution on HHH he kicked out

[Evolution]

Was that rip-off Jaws music or what?

[Bo]

Gong!

[LK]

Has Benoit got a bit of offence yet? Seems like he has been beaten all match. Can ssee him being the first one to go.

[Evolution]

OMG! HHH is selling?! To Edge?!

Spoiler: Randy is in next. ;)

[The Answer]

HBk is gonna turn I can feel it

[Disturbed316]

DIEZ! NUEVE! OCHO! SIETE! SEIS! CINCO! CUATRO! TRES! DOS! UNO! *GONG*

[The Answer]

Pedigree on Jericho.Here comes Randy

[Gouda]

Relax... lay back... Eat some WWE Ice Cream Bars (http://www.icecreamusa.com/products/ind_product.asp?upc=70547-02700&brand=Popsicle)

[LK]

No eliminations yet. Randy beating HHH.

[Evolution]

Wow. Randy's on fire!

[Bo]

Y DOS J ! Thats what Im waiting for.

[Evolution]

Gouda, where did you find that?

[Bo]

Ha ha love him dropping randy to get the sharpsooter.

[LK]

RKO on Benoit

[JT]

If Y2J is the first to get eliminated, I'll be so fucking pissed.

[Evolution]

Why the RKO? Is Randy gonna turn?

[Disturbed316]

SPEAR ON HBK!

[LK]

Edge speared HBK accidentaly

[Disturbed316]

SWEET CHIN MUSIC ON EDGE!

[Evolution]

WTF?! GOODNIGHT EDGE!

[LK]

Sweet Chin Music, lionsault, Edge eliminated

[JT]

Yes, and it was Y2J that got the pin. :D

[RemyRed]

Fuck you you fuckin jobber Jericho!!!!!!!

[Bo]

Why do I Edge winning the rumble now.

[Gouda]

Gouda, where did you find that?

There was a link to it on pwinsider.com

I thought they stopped making those a long time ago. I remember the ads for them in old school WWF magazines...

Anyways... to be on topic...

I totally marked out when reading about Christian. I hope he somehow gets involved.

[Nervous Ferret]

:wtf: That is awesome.

[LK]

Benoit going for headbutt off the top of one of the chambers. HOLY SHIT!

[Evolution]

HEADBUTT OFF THE POD!

[Bo]

Got your wish Disturbed. Almost.

[Nervous Ferret]

holy shit!! on who?

[Disturbed316]

HOLY SHIT @ BENOIT!

:love: @ Walls of Jericho/Crossface combo :love:

[Savio]

What if Y2J won it?That'd be mad weird.

[Evolution]

Ref fucked up big time.

[LK]

Batista in. HHH was anout to tap to the Walls/Crossface.

[The Answer]

Rko on Jericho.Crossface on Orton,Sharpshooter on HHH,Rko on Benoit.Edge spears micheals then orton.Micheals sweet chin music on edge.Lionsault on edge.Edge out

Damn that took a while to type

[Bo]

Lol hit the camera man.

[Disturbed316]

Batista looked like he was gonna shit himself when he was looking at Triple H.

[Evolution]

Look at the camera guy sell. Is he wearing elbow pads?

[JT]

Fuck you you fuckin jobber Jericho!!!!!!!

Go choke on a biscuit! :mad:

[The Answer]

What a match

[Disturbed316]

I smell a Xtian/Carlito run in soon.

[LK]

Bulldogg on the steel by Y2J to HHH

[The Answer]

I smell a Xtian/Carlito run in soon.

Nah they would have run in when the chamber was open to get the camera guy out of their

[JT]

I smell a Xtian/Carlito run in soon.

Carlito?

[Nervous Ferret]

Go choke on a biscuit! :mad:
ohhh SnAp!!!

[Bo]

My god at Batista.

[Disturbed316]

lol what a spinebuster on Jericho on Benoit.

[Evolution]

Benoit gone. I thought RKO and HHH were gonna get out of the chamber.

[LK]

Benoit gone. Batista did a spinebuster to Jericho on Benoit.

[The Answer]

Benoit out.Batista spine buster on benoit then on jericho on top of benoit.Ouch

[Bo]

Ya know I bet that steel is pretty cold on your bare back and legs.

[RemyRed]

Na na na na.......Na na na na......Hey hey hey......Goooood byyyeee!

[LK]

Jericho gone. Powerbomb by Batista.

[JT]

FUCK!!!

[Disturbed316]

:'( bye Jericho. My hopes are all on Batista winning this thing now.

[The Answer]

Batista bomb on Jericho he is gone

[Evolution]

Bye Jericho. Now we're down to Evolution.

[The Answer]

Come on Randy

[JT]

Na na na na.......Na na na na......Hey hey hey......Goooood byyyeee!

May you be run over one day by a Canadian beer truck.

[Nervous Ferret]

Now wasn't this unpredictable?

[Evolution]

Get Triple H out of there!

[JT]

I'm hoping for something suprising happening like it being down to HHH and Batiasta, Batiasta refuses to lay down, and HBK superkicks him.

[Disturbed316]

I bet Triple H Pedigree's and eliminates Batista, then Orton will RKO H and win the match.

[Gouda]

Noooooo. They were supposed to save HHH/Orton/Batista for Mania.

[Ferocious]

May you be run over one day by a Canadian beer truck. That was about as weak as a paraplegic boy throwing leaves.

[The Answer]

Come on Randy.R-K-O!!!!!!

[LK]

Orton eliminates Batista RKO

[Evolution]

GO RANDY!

[JT]

HHH and RKO left. :D

[The Answer]

lol HHH left Batista to fry after the RKO

[Disturbed316]

FUCK BATISTA IS OUT! If Triple H wins, then everyone will be pissed.

Listen to the boo's on Batista's elimination.

[Bo]

God damn Batistas gone. And the audience agrees with me.

[RemyRed]

Triple H's 11th title reign coming in 10 minutes folks.

[The Naitch]

lol watch, Trips is gonna win this

[Disturbed316]

How the hell did Flair get in?

[The Answer]

HHH is going to win damn

[LK]

FUCK SAKE HHH WINS

[Bo]

Gee that wasnt expected.

[RemyRed]

Its all bout the game, and how ya play it (Politics)

[Disturbed316]

YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!? :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

[Evolution]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!




Nice arse though Randy.

[RemyRed]

Batista swerve!

[JT]

That was about as weak as a paraplegic boy throwing leaves.

Well the fact is I don't take this guy seriously and I'm not trying. My jokes are more humorous directed than insulting.

[Savio]

Shawn micheals just super kicked Randy!!!!

[Nervous Ferret]

whaaaaaaaaat happened?

[The Answer]

Ya HHH holds no one down lol

[mike627]

Damn,that sucks!

[JT]

Well this PPV definately sucked. TNA really needs a primetime slot.

[Disturbed316]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, I AM FUCKING PISSED OFF! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU TRIPLE H!

[Gouda]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :foc:

[JT]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, I AM FUCKING PISSED OFF! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU TRIPLE H!

Told you not to be disappointed.

[Nervous Ferret]

I'm taking this as hhh won?

[The Answer]

How the hell did Flair get in?

To get Batista out they opened the doors

[James Steele]

So, what are the final results?

[The Naitch]

this is so bad, it's funny :lol:

[RemyRed]

Well that's it, I'm going the way of the SenseiOfMattitude, I'm off WWE, it's all TNA for me now.

[Disturbed316]

Seriously, what was the point in going through that "who is the champion" storyline if they are just going to keep it on fuck face?

This ppv was lame enough as it is, apart from Kane's tombstone. The chamber match started out great, but why did they have to ruin it with that ending? Nice going WWE :roll:

[JT]

Yes! TNA commercial on WWE programming. :cool:

[McLegend]

to get off HHH for a second. Who got the biggest pop of the night?

[Evolution]

Was anyone else expecting a "Thumbs Down" like they did to Randy?

[Volchok]

im so sad...

[The Answer]

Batista is still a tool.I knew he wouldn't turn theur advertsing a 6 man here in TO for the Jan 17th Raw.HHH,Batista,Edge vs Orton,Benoit,Jericho

[Volchok]

damnit.. i new i should have saved my money for the Rumble...

[JT]

My Thoughts:

Okay, so I know my thoughts aren't apart of the common ones here, but everyone must agree that this PPV sucked ass. Seriously, I've watched alot of WWE programming and couldn't put it down like most people, but this was just awlful. There was no real build up, extremely crappy matches, and a World Championship match that could have given thousands of suprises and gave the ordinary. Seriously, I mean if something happen like a HBK heel turn, that would definately have me hooked for tomorrow. And if not that, Randy winning the title or even the extremely expected turn of Batiasta could have had me looking foward to Raw.

Seriously, I hate fucking WWE now. I swear if there was something better on Monday night, I would watch it. If WCW was still going and Nitro was on the air, I would watch that, because even the programming we insulted so much is better than the same old crap WWE keeps handing off to us. Thank god TNA is around now and kicking, or I would just hate wrestling right now.

[Sepholio]

I don't know why I got my hopes up for this. WWE drops the ball again. Well, that's a lie, I've come to the conclusion that they have dropped the ball so many times now that they are too lazy to even pick it up to begin with anymore.

If Raw tomorrow isn't the best Raw in a long time, and they don't do something unexpected, then, I believe it is time for me to boycott the WWE product.

[Savio]

So how did HHH win?

[I-Hate-You]

I knew a "Fuck the fans" swerve was coming.

[Eunos]

Oh how original.

Triple H wins.. :roll:

[Marc the Smark]

My Thoughts:

Okay, so I know my thoughts aren't apart of the common ones here, but everyone must agree that this PPV sucked ass. Seriously, I've watched alot of WWE programming and couldn't put it down like most people, but this was just awlful. There was no real build up, extremely crappy matches, and a World Championship match that could have given thousands of suprises and gave the ordinary. Seriously, I mean if something happen like a HBK heel turn, that would definately have me hooked for tomorrow. And if not that, Randy winning the title or even the extremely expected turn of Batiasta could have had me looking foward to Raw.

Seriously, I hate fucking WWE now. I swear if there was something better on Monday night, I would watch it. If WCW was still going and Nitro was on the air, I would watch that, because even the programming we insulted so much is better than the same old crap WWE keeps handing off to us. Thank god TNA is around now and kicking, or I would just hate wrestling right now.

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[Volchok]

wow...

[Loose Cannon]

LOL, WHAT did I say right after the Title was held up? I told you guys. They need a strong heel champ for Mania. Of course HHH was going to win.

[Marc the Smark]

I knew a "Fuck the fans" swerve was coming.

But WHAT THE FUCK is the point of that????? They know what we want, and they do just the FUCKING OPPOSITE?!?!?!?!? :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Volchok]

fuck this.. im going to bed...damnit it would have been more entertaining to put my money in the middle of the floor, burn it, then piss on it...

[mike627]

So, where do we go from here?

[Disturbed316]

Seriously, I hate fucking WWE now. I swear if there was something better on Monday night, I would watch it. If WCW was still going and Nitro was on the air, I would watch that, because even the programming we insulted so much is better than the same old crap WWE keeps handing off to us. Thank god TNA is around now and kicking, or I would just hate wrestling right now.

[James Steele]

What were all the match results?

And Triple H fucked up my predictions. I was right on the money on the EC match until HHH beat RKO. YOU BASTARD!!!!!!

[Savio]

If Randy could have just held out a little more and hit the RKO he would have won :shifty:

[Volchok]

Batista has to turn on HHH... he has too.. thats the only way... FUCK!!!

[Marc the Smark]

LOL, WHAT did I say right after the Title was held up? I told you guys. They need a strong heel champ for Mania. Of course HHH was going to win.

I don't think any of us are completely surprised, no, but that's not the point. The point is, they know what we want, and we got just the opposite! The point is, why the FUCK did they masturbate our minds just to SCREW us out of 40 bucks?!? :mad: :mad: :mad:

[I-Hate-You]

But WHAT THE FUCK is the point of that????? They know what we want, and they do just the FUCKING OPPOSITE?!?!?!?!? :mad: :mad: :mad:
Because there's no alternative to them.

If you don't agree with what the WWE is doing, what else are you going to watch?

[Loose Cannon]

IT'S ORTON VS HHH AT MANIA. Or a triple threat with Batista.

[mike627]

Batista has to turn on HHH... he has too.. thats the only way... FUCK!!! I agree with you. :yes:

[Marc the Smark]

Because there's no alternative to them.

:mad:

[Gouda]

Tomorrow on RAW: Bischoff comes out and says Edge unfairly got everybody's hopes up that Christian would get a World Title shot and that all The Peeps are sending hate mail and letter bombs and as a result the main event on Raw will be HHH vs. Christian. Christian goes over cleanly. :shifty:

[James Steele]

What were all the match results?

And Triple H fucked up my predictions. I was right on the money on the EC match until HHH beat RKO. YOU BASTARD!!!!!!

[James Steele]

Look at it like this:

At least there was a shot in WWE of somebody other than HHH winning, but the gun was empty.

In TNA, we all know who will win...



Abyss :shifty:

[Loose Cannon]

Let's look at this rationally. All the competitors. Ready

Jericho: Has been jobbed countless times already. Hasn't been booked strong. No chance at winning.

Benoit: Already had the belt and they had no faith in him when he had the belt. No chance at winning

Orton: They've booked him strong to take the belt from a heel at Mania. NO chance at winning.

Edge: Way too soon and they already have HHH to go into Mania as strong heel. No chance of winning

Batista: I think he had the closest chance of winning besides Trips. But they learned there lesson from Orton and it was a smart move.

[James Steele]

LC, your logic is pissing me off. :rant:


JERICHO DAMM IT! CHRIS FUCKING JERICHO!

[Splaya]

Wait a minute, I didn't see the PPV. What the fuck happened?

[GODSON]

I quit Raw 3 month's ago. I watch Smackdown every once in a while. Right now, Impact is the only show I watch everyweek.

Watch out for the Ultimate X Match next Sunday. Monty Brown will become WORLD CHAMP.

[Savio]

They should have had micheals help HHH

[Splaya]

My Thoughts:



Seriously, I hate fucking WWE now. I swear if there was something better on Monday night, I would watch it.
The show 24 is on fox from 9-10 from now on every monday night :cool:

[Marc the Smark]

Jericho: Has been jobbed countless times already. Hasn't been booked strong. No chance at winning.

Okay, but why the awful booking?!? The fans LOVE him!

Benoit: Already had the belt and they had no faith in him when he had the belt. No chance at winning

But why no faith in him?!? The fans LOVE him!

Orton: They've booked him strong to take the belt from a heel at Mania. NO chance at winning.

But why wait til Mania and screw us out of our money tonight?!?

Edge: Way too soon and they already have HHH to go into Mania as strong heel. No chance of winning

Agreed. And besides, Edge sucks.

Batista: I think he had the closest chance of winning besides Trips. But they learned there lesson from Orton and it was a smart move.

What was the lesson? Bullshit. The lesson was fuck the fans? The lesson was take our money and run? Bullshit.

[Gerard]

Wait a minute, I didn't see the PPV. What the fuck happened?


Eugene got injured
Lita apparently got injured
Camera man got jericho thrown into him
Big nose regains the belt.

And those can be considered the highlights of that ppv.

[Splaya]

Wait a minute, wait a minute wait a fucking minute. Flair was in the ring, batista went and attacked Orton and HHH pinned him. AND THEN MICHAELS DID THE 3 COUNT!?!?!?

I SMELL AN HBK HEEL TURN :mad:

[Gerard]

If you don't agree with what the WWE is doing, what else are you going to watch?


Porn.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Let's look at this rationally. All the competitors. Ready

Jericho: Has been jobbed countless times already. Hasn't been booked strong. No chance at winning.

Benoit: Already had the belt and they had no faith in him when he had the belt. No chance at winning

Orton: They've booked him strong to take the belt from a heel at Mania. NO chance at winning.

Edge: Way too soon and they already have HHH to go into Mania as strong heel. No chance of winning

Batista: I think he had the closest chance of winning besides Trips. But they learned there lesson from Orton and it was a smart move.


Here's what I see the biggest problem to be, and why I wanted Edge to win... HHH Vs Orton has been done, both on ppv, and on Raw. The fans have seen it, it's not new. Batista Vs HHH for the first time would be a better WM main event... Now here's the problem... If Batista jobs to HHH, the build up was for nothing, and he's been pretty much screwed over. However, if Batista beats HHH and wins the world title, I honestly feel it's to early. If HHH wouldn't have won, those two could have fought without a title, giving Batista a win, and making him huge.

Oh well, lets hope for Jericho vs Benoit at WM, because they'll probably have nothing better going for them.

[MVP]

HHH won? Wrestlezone just reported Orton won.

[V]

lol at snitsky's theme startin goff with "it's not my fault"

and LMAO @ Daivari, when lawler kicked out he was like AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH as if he was having a heart attack, and then he fell to the floor ala flair when hassan kicked out of a move

i didn't do so well in tipsters.. 4/6 winners predicted correctly, and 0/5 for the elimination order :(

and mvp trips won, wrestlezone is probably losing a lot of credibility as we speak

[Disturbed316]

Eugene got injured
Lita apparently got injured
Camera man got jericho thrown into him
Big nose regains the belt.

And those can be considered the highlights of that ppv.

You forgot Kane breaking Snitsky's neck with a brutal Tombstone.

[Gerard]

I think the most amazing thing in this ppv was the fact that despite the size of triple h's schnozz thats the first time ive ever (that i can remember) seen it bleeding. You'd think a target of that size woulda been cut open long before now.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Maybe they're doing like a Randy Orton type of thing. You know how at Summerslam everyone was all happy for him and then at the end of the match on Raw Batista and Triple H acted all happy. And then Triple H gave Batista a motion and dropped him. Maybe they're going kinda with the same angle for tomorrow.

[Gerard]

You forgot Kane breaking Snitsky's neck with a brutal Tombstone.


Yeah that was pretty fucked up looking, anyone else notice the camera man appeared to be wearing elbow pads? Seen him laying there and noticed it, havn't read through this thread so dunno if it was mentioned but for a while i thought it was gonna turn out to be a wrestler interfering in the match.

[Loose Cannon]

Here's what I see the biggest problem to be, and why I wanted Edge to win... HHH Vs Orton has been done, both on ppv, and on Raw. The fans have seen it, it's not new. Batista Vs HHH for the first time would be a better WM main event... Now here's the problem... If Batista jobs to HHH, the build up was for nothing, and he's been pretty much screwed over. However, if Batista beats HHH and wins the world title, I honestly feel it's to early. If HHH wouldn't have won, those two could have fought without a title, giving Batista a win, and making him huge.

Oh well, lets hope for Jericho vs Benoit at WM, because they'll probably have nothing better going for them.

Yeah. Totally agree with you 100% about Batista. It should be Batista/HHH at Mania for the Title. No if's and's or but's. That's the money match.

[MVP]

LOL Wrestlezone said Orton was the winner of the match, and I ignored the part that said "HHH rolls over Orton to get the three count", retards.

Anyway I was 90% sure HHH was walking out champion so he can job the title to Batista or Orton at Mania. It's likely now that they're pushing Orton as much as they are Batista so they'll probably do the triple threat.

[Gone Mad]

Well.. what a freakin' surprise. Triple H is the champ. God, what I wouldn't give to have Captain Charisma world champion instead. Oh, well.. wrestling has failed in giving the fans what they want.

WrestleMania better make up for this crap given to us for the past few months, though I will admit JBL is sounding like a better champion than HHH. Remember,you aren't great for being a 11 time champ, it only means that you've lost it that many.

[mike627]

But, if it happens will Batista go over or will HHH make him look weak?

[Marc the Smark]

LOL Wrestlezone said Orton was the winner of the match, and I ignored the part that said "HHH rolls over Orton to get the three count", retards.

Anyway I was 90% sure HHH was walking out champion so he can job the title to Batista or Orton at Mania. It's likely now that they're pushing Orton as much as they are Batista so they'll probably do the triple threat.

A Triple Threat would suck. Make it one on one. I don't know who though.... either Orton or Batista.

[Loose Cannon]

HHH is not winning at Mania. I'M 100% SURE.

[The Answer]

For those who want a recap but not go through the whole thread

Revolution results

Tag champs Regal/Eugene beat Christian and Tomko

Notes:Eugene suffered a dislocated knee(legit) but was able to roll up Tomko

Women's Champ Lita lost to Trish(new champ)

Notes:Same thing that happened to Eugene happened to Lita(knee injury) this was early on though which caused a quick unexpected finish.A trish chick kick for the three

IC Champ Shelton Benjamin defeated Maven twice

Notes:Benjamin beat him in 15 seconds the first match(roll up) then Maven demanded a rematch and got beat with the T-bone finisher in 15 seconds

Muhammed Hussan defeated Lawler

Notes:Horrible Match with Hussan winning with Kanyon's flatliner finisher

Kane beat Gene Snitsky

Notes:Kane wins by Tombstone

HHH wins the world title over Randy Orton,Batista,Chris Jericho,Chris Benoit and Edge.

Notes:Edge speared HBK(sprecial ref) by accident but then started slapping HBk after he had speared Orton but was unable to count it.Hbk hit Edge with sweet chin music and then Jericho hit a lionsault Edge gone,Batista spine bustered Benoit then he did it to Jericho who landed on top of Benoit,Batista pins Benoit.Benoit gone.Jericho gets Batista bombed.Jericho gone,RKO on Batista(HHH can break it up but decides to slump in the corner instead.Batista gone.Flair comes in after they open the doors to get Batista out,Orton RKO's HHH,HBK punches Flair but while he does this Batista lays Orton out with a huge clothsline,Flair and Batista leave and HHH hits the pedigree on an unconscious Orton.Orton gone

Batista puts HHH on his shoulders and Evolution celebrate.No swerve.The end

[Gerard]

I prefer jbl as champion on smackdown, he's amusing on the mic at least, with triple h its the same old fucking shite we've heard time and time again, as far as in ring goes, i wouldn't say that triple h is miles ahead of jbl if it all ahead of him.

[Loose Cannon]

AND Red Hot Scott: They needed to give the belt to HHH tonight because they need a babyface to win the Title at Mania. That's been the formula countless times. They had to give it to HHH to at least let him have the belt for a couple of months before he jobs it again. Even though he should of never had it taken away from him in the first place.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

SO this is why I never order PPV'S.

[MVP]

A Triple Threat would suck. Make it one on one. I don't know who though.... either Orton or Batista.
Ideally it should be HHH/Batista like WWKD and LC said since it would draw the most, but the triple threat isn't so bad either. It's all three Evo members facing off so there is a lot of emotion in the match. Flair is caught between HHH/Batista. Both Orton and Batista have been pushed as title contenders (Batista is the legit contender though). And at this point, leaving either Orton or Batista out of a match vs. HHH at Mania would really hurt one of them.

[James Steele]

Damn, I only got 2 of my predictions right. I was WAY off on the EC, but damn.

Anyway, Tonight my fears came true of what my concern was about have a PPV a couple of weeks before the Royal Rumble. Luckily, none of the Chamber match participants got injured, but they still have some injuries to deal with which might change the game plan a little bit. (I know Eugene or Lita aren't winning the Rumble, but you get the point)

[Boondock Saint]

JR said HHH was a 10 time champ? Knowing JR he fucks things up, but which is it? 10 or 11?

My god, the Hassan/Lawler match was like in slow-motion or something. Dear god it was bad. I blame Lawler, but he's also done even better than that in the recent past. Don't know what was up.

Davari was hilarious at ringside. Yelling, jumping around. "Shut up JR you slobbering fat piece of crap!"

Lousy PPV, the EC match I thought was good up until it came down to the final three. I didn't want any of them to win it, although I wasn't surprised it would be them.

Odd that both Eugene and Lita blew out their knees. Wonder if Eugene being out for a while will be the end of the gimmick and what's the deal with the tag titles?

Sick Tombstone on Snitsky by Kane. Best part of that match.

Oh, and Shelton/Maven was a surprise. Maven was good on the mic I thought, but WTF at it being so short TWICE? Maybe they didn't want to risk either of them getting injured after the previous two matches? Dunno.

Blah PPV, I took a chance knowing it prolly wouldn't be that good but I really wanted to see the EC so I can't really complain.

Still getting the Rumble.

Now gonna go watch 24 I taped. :cool:

[McLegend]

JR is right HHH is 10 time world champion.

[mitch_h]

Awful show. The elimination chamber was good but the rest of the card was just pure crap. I'm not even angry about HHH winning the title again. Loose Cannon pretty much explained why. Can't really blame HHH either, blame the WWE for not having any other established heels.

[Innovator]

The highlight of this PPV, for 5 minutes...we got Jericho vs. Benoit

[Savio]

HHH won? Wrestlezone just reported Orton won.Before Batista is able to get out of the ring he helps HHH. Flair runs in the ring while the cage door is open. Orton hits the RKO, but Flair distracts the ref and then Batista drills Orton.


Orton is knocked out. HHH barely gets to his feet as HBK tries to get Flair and Batista out of the ring. HHH then hits the pedigree and rolls over on Orton and gets the three count. Winner: Randy Orton

[Innovator]

All they had to do to save something from the PPV:

when Batista had HHH on his shoulders and they show the replay of him getting pinned...just drop HHH after that and walk off

But wait enough of me booking things which make sense

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Some Smackdown PPV'S were better then this.Rumble will be so much better.

[Innovator]

This could be on par with the Great American Bash

[I-Hate-You]

I like how the newest Smackdown! game doesn't acknowledge the GAB happened.

[loopydate]

They needed to give the belt to HHH tonight because they need a babyface to win the Title at Mania. That's been the formula countless times.
But it's not a requirement.

Hogan was World Champ going into WM2, 3, and 6 (although, granted, he was defending against a face).

Bret Hart went into WM9 with the belt. 12, too (again, though, against a face).

Diesel at WM11.

I can't remember if Rock or Austin was face at 17.

Granted, Hogan and Hart were...special. But that's six out of twenty WrestleManias headlined by a face defending the World Title.

Would it be so terrible to defy convention just once...well...a seventh time? A Batista or Orton or Edge or Jericho or Benoit title win would give fans who watched tonight's PPV a reason to watch RAW in the coming weeks to see just how the hell the mighty Triple H managed to get beat.

Plus, it would add intrigue to the Royal Rumble. At this point, it's clearly going to be either Orton or Batista winning it. You put the belt on one of them tonight, stack the deck against Triple H (he wins the Rumble, natch), and you've got a fresh WrestleMania main event.

As it is, I have no reason to watch any RAW programming (other than the Rumble) until WrestleMania, because I know what's going to happen. At least I can still watch TNA and SmackDown and have a modicum of curiosity.

[Innovator]

sweet guys on the PWInsider.com radio show answered my question

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was fairly disappointed with the card. They made Hassan look too weak! How the Hell are we supposed to take him seriously if he can't kick out of Lawler's DDT (No matter how powerful it looked, Hassan should have gotten his foot on the rope under his own power). And what is up with him using the Downward Spiral? I really don't see why they didn't have him use The Finishing Touch.

BTW, what is the point of having him use the Camel Clutch? That move is used by every Arab character and his dog. He really should have put Jerry in the surfboard to soften him up for The Finishing Touch.

And Daivari looked weak in this match also. He could have at least looked like he was about to kick JR's ass, instead of running. I'm going to find it hard to take these guys seriously until Hassan gets to really go (he looked just about ready to snap and break out in this match, but he refrained and put on the crapfest they wanted), and both guys look like THREATS.

The Elimination Chamber was predictable, and I think the only saving thing about it was the action it contained. I'm a bit upset we didn't see a German Suplex through the "plexiglass" or something like that. Let's take a look at these eliminations, as well:

1. Edge
Good pick for the first elimination. He could go so easily without losing heat. He actually gains it, since HBK cost him the match. I'm glad Jericho got the pin, but it was the only Lionsault of the match. It's a shame, because there were so damn many in the first Elimination Chamber at Survivor Series 2002.

Anyway, it looks like Edge will do well in the Rumble, until HBK eliminates him, leading to Edge snapping, and us having Edge vs. HBK at Mania. Edge should go over cleanly, and we'll FINALLY have another top heel that they can shift the World Heavyweight Championship to as early as possible.

2. Chris Benoit
This wasn't the worst move, but it could have been better. I would have liked to have seen Benoit kick out of the Spinebuster, which leads to Batista snapping and throwing Benoit outside. Benoit makes a comeback, keeps ramming Batista into a chamber cell again and again until it smashes, then we see Batista explode back with a Clothesline. Batista Bomb on the outside, Benoit is eliminated, he looks strong, Batista looks strong, everyone goes home happy.

I don't know what they have planned for Benoit & Jericho at Mania, but to be honest they may as well have Benoit & Regal, or Benoit & Jericho take over as World Tag Team Champions since Eugene is injured. Eric Bischoff should jump at the chance (from a storyline point of view) to get new World Tag Team Champions.

3. Chris Jericho
Who couldn't they just have him outlive Batista in this match. I think Jericho has come in thrid place in each previous Chamber, so they should have at least given Jericho some consistancy. I loved Jericho in this match, and I could almost feel an upset. Jericho took the only Batista Bomb of the match, and it was good of him to take that honour.

Jericho, like Benoit, has absolutely no direction for Mania, so they may as well put the World Tag Team Championship on him and Benoit (or Edge & HBK).

4. Batista
It was good he went where he was, and the fans hated it, but it's better they keep Batista vs. Triple H until Mania. That is all I have to say. Except I hope Batista wins the Royal Rumble.

5. Randy Orton
Thank God he didn't win the title. The only way I could stomache Orton as World Champion again, is if it is on SmackDown!, or if he went back to being an arrogant heel. The fans aren't buying into Orton as well as the WWE would hope, as he got quite a lot of boos, and he was right up there with Triple H in their poll "Who do you not want to see win the Chamber at NYR?". I would have taken Triple H over Orton anyday.

How hard would it have been to put the title on Jericho, then have it switch hands at the Royal Rumble back to Triple H? The saving grace of the finish was the shoulders/thumbs part. It got me really excited, but it didn't make sense for them to betray Triple H there. Maybe Orton can win the title from Triple H at RR, join a new heel Evolution, then Batista wins the Rumble, and we have Orton vs. Batista at Mania?

Nah Triple H vs. Batista works better. Randy Orton vs. The Rock might be on the card as well. And Muhammad Hassan vs. Chris Jericho.

[Heyman]

HHH is not winning at Mania. I'M 100% SURE.

Batista will defeat Triple H (one on one) at Wrestlemania IMO.

[xx Su Fi Guy xx]

I can name all of Raw side, only can get a couple of Smackdown's.

There are 3 really hard ones, least for me, I looked that that promo over and over again for an hour before finding them all, it took my frenid about 30 minutesd tonight with some of my help...we figure if one of us wins, we take the other....butnah, I wont give anyone the hard ones..

[John la Rock]

My bad. need to fix this message

[John la Rock]

I prefer jbl as champion on smackdown, he's amusing on the mic at least, with triple h its the same old fucking shite we've heard time and time again, as far as in ring goes, i wouldn't say that triple h is miles ahead of jbl if it all ahead of him.

lol you can't fucking be serious

HHH is one of the best in-ring wrestlers in the WWE and probably has the best in ring psychology

That's like saying that JBL is a better worker than Jericho

[#1-norm-fan]

This was only the 4th WWE Pay Per View I have ever missed. I'm contemplating only ordering the big 4 from now on. It was pretty obvious that Triple H would win anyway...

The ONLY reason for the whole "Whose the world champ" storyline was because Orton could never get another shot at the title as long as Triple H was champion. Triple H technically lost the title, new title reign, now he can have a shot at WrestleMania. It was actually a pretty decent idea IMO.

[I-Hate-You]

But Orton isn't over with the fans.

[I-Hate-You]

I can't remember if Rock or Austin was face at 17.

Both were face going into the match.

[Nark Order]

Eh, I didn't think the show was that bad. Pissed Edge was eliminated first though...

[John la Rock]

Orton is over but he's not AUSTIN or ROCK over and never will be

[Wolverine]

I know I dun hardly post here but I got 2 things to say quickly


1. Anyone else notice Randy's blading he did before HHH threw him into the EC.

2. Batista will turn tomorrow night, he's going to see the footage of HHH not helping him out of the pin by Randy and say what ya doin, and well...there we have Batista's turn...

[I-Hate-You]

Let's just accept the fact that by the time HHH is done, he will have more title reigns than Ric Flair.

He has only seven more to go to beat it.

[loopydate]

I can't remember if Rock or Austin was face at 17.

Both were face going into the match.
Thanks. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. That makes seven, then.

[Gouda]

Orton is over but he's not AUSTIN or ROCK over and never will be

Orton is Jeff Hardy over. In that his pops consist of girls screaming.

[Marc the Smark]

So Eugene and Lita are both legitimatelly injured right now?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eh, I didn't think the show was that bad. Pissed Edge was eliminated first though...

I can understand why, but I think it did he some good going first. He had Orton down, was on a roll, then HBK cost him the match. Edge will go over HBK at WrestleMania CLEANLY, then we'll see Edge probably get the title at either Backlash or Summerslam. Damn is the WWE predictable or what?

[Mayo]

Was anyone else expecting a "Thumbs Down" like they did to Randy? Yeah I definitely expected that after he saw the replay on the titantron but he was still happy afterwards :-\

Batista will defeat Triple H (one on one) at Wrestlemania IMO. I would have to agree with this one since I don't think they would do triple threat two Wrestlemania's in a row, and the Batista-HHH feud is gonna be hot if they do it right.

lol you can't fucking be serious

HHH is one of the best in-ring wrestlers in the WWE and probably has the best in ring psychology

That's like saying that JBL is a better worker than Jericho I love you, man.

All they had to do to save something from the PPV:

when Batista had HHH on his shoulders and they show the replay of him getting pinned...just drop HHH after that and walk off

But wait enough of me booking things which make senseThey have to take things a lot slower than that. I think they finally learned from what happened with Orton and they went way too quickly with his turn.

It wasn't a very good PPV overall but I thought the EC match was very well done and enjoyable to watch.
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[Mr. Nerfect]

So Eugene and Lita are both legitimatelly injured right now?

I believe so. I don't mean this in an offensive way to Nick Dinsmore or anything, but I hope they strip William Regal & Eugene of the World Tag Team Championship.

I can see Eric Bischoff telling Regal he has a choice, defend the Tag Titles in handicapped matches, and keep Eugene as an official World Tag Team Champion, or have him pick a new tag team partner. Then we either see Chris Benoit or Val Venis as Regal's new partner.

[mike627]

I believe so. I don't mean this in an offensive way to Nick Dinsmore or anything, but I hope they strip William Regal & Eugene of the World Tag Team Championship.

I can see Eric Bischoff telling Regal he has a choice, defend the Tag Titles in handicapped matches, and keep Eugene as an official World Tag Team Champion, or have him pick a new tag team partner. Then we either see Chris Benoit or Val Venis as Regal's new partner. Then, a Nick Dinsmore heel turn. :shifty:

[Marc the Smark]

A new Eugene t-shirt, and all for nothing :lol:

[Lara Emily]

lol you can't fucking be serious

HHH is one of the best in-ring wrestlers in the WWE and probably has the best in ring psychology

[...]


:wtf:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Then, a Nick Dinsmore heel turn. :shifty:

I think it's long overdue.

How does this sound? The WWE brings up Kousin Krazy from OVW (because he sort of looks like Eugene) as "Eustace" and has him fill in temporarily as William Regal's tag team partner. Just for kicks and giggles.

Or you could have William Regal use a "hometown hero" as his tag team partner, and use that as a way to explore indy talent, while getting them some recognition since they're defending Eugene's side of the World Tag Team Championship. Maybe Regal can even let them get the pinfall after he cleans house.

Or there's that young English guy in OVW that they could give a tryout. Not Paul Burchill (I think that's his name), but another young rookie.

[mike627]

I think it's long overdue.

How does this sound? The WWE brings up Kousin Krazy from OVW (because he sort of looks like Eugene) as "Eustace" and has him fill in temporarily as William Regal's tag team partner. Just for kicks and giggles.

Or you could have William Regal use a "hometown hero" as his tag team partner, and use that as a way to explore indy talent, while getting them some recognition since they're defending Eugene's side of the World Tag Team Championship. Maybe Regal can even let them get the pinfall after he cleans house.

Or there's that young English guy in OVW that they could give a tryout. Not Paul Burchill (I think that's his name), but another young rookie. That wolud work man! Dinsmore shows up as Eugene then when Regal and "Eustace" turn their back's Dinsmore attacks them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was really getting behind Maven as a heel at NYR. He was getting SO much heat. What exactly did he do again to draw it? I'm pretty sure he just showed up. But someone (I think it was LC) said that Maven was reminding them as an old school Rocky Maivia or something. I have to agree. The heat Maven was getting was uncanny.

And then they had to go and ruin it by jobbing him out not once, but TWICE. Why? I have no clue, because Shelton Benjamin wasn't getting much of a reaction, so it wasn't exactly for pops.

They could have at least had the first match take place, then have Maven cheat to win the second one after a match where these two guys actually do something worthwhile.

I still can't get over that heat. I think it was the most of the night if I'm not mistaken (the fans might have been pretty pissed after the main event).

[SuperSlim]

man alive.... that sounded like the worst PPV. And the year is just getting started? That is not a good sign for the WWE right now. IF Royal Rumble doesn't deliver then WWE can be in real trouble cause that would mean many folks may not care to watch No Way Out or WrestleMania 21

[Dave Youell]

With the exception of the EC and the IC match (only because there was no actual match), every other match was booked poorly and looked terrible. There was some potential with this card, but they blew it

[Loose Cannon]

But it's not a requirement.

Hogan was World Champ going into WM2, 3, and 6 (although, granted, he was defending against a face).

Bret Hart went into WM9 with the belt. 12, too (again, though, against a face).

Diesel at WM11.

I can't remember if Rock or Austin was face at 17.

Granted, Hogan and Hart were...special. But that's six out of twenty WrestleManias headlined by a face defending the World Title.

Would it be so terrible to defy convention just once...well...a seventh time? A Batista or Orton or Edge or Jericho or Benoit title win would give fans who watched tonight's PPV a reason to watch RAW in the coming weeks to see just how the hell the mighty Triple H managed to get beat.

Plus, it would add intrigue to the Royal Rumble. At this point, it's clearly going to be either Orton or Batista winning it. You put the belt on one of them tonight, stack the deck against Triple H (he wins the Rumble, natch), and you've got a fresh WrestleMania main event.

As it is, I have no reason to watch any RAW programming (other than the Rumble) until WrestleMania, because I know what's going to happen. At least I can still watch TNA and SmackDown and have a modicum of curiosity.

Yeah, I shouldn't have made it seem like they only can go that way. But with the way the WWE's been booking, it's the only way I saw them go. I would love to see the belt on a Jericho, Benoit or even Edge, but it's just not happening. They have no faith in the first two guys for some reason, even though HHH clearly isn't brininging in the business

[SuperSlim]

but I thought a SD! guy would win it this year. I mean sure Benoit was SD! when he won but the #1 main event of WM XX was a Raw championship. So why have another Raw main event for WrestleMania and not a SD! one... unless they get a new champ cause I don't htink JBL would market so well in that sort of main event.

[loopydate]

Yeah, I shouldn't have made it seem like they only can go that way. But with the way the WWE's been booking, it's the only way I saw them go. I would love to see the belt on a Jericho, Benoit or even Edge, but it's just not happening. They have no faith in the first two guys for some reason, even though HHH clearly isn't brininging in the business
I absolutely agree. I just wanted to clarify. Over the last decade or so, Vince is convinced that face-chasing-heel is the only way to go, so it was clearly going to go that way.

I wouldn't mind an Edge title reign. At this point, he's the only RAW main eventer (with the possible exception of Batista) who isn't un-believeable as World Champion due to burial. Maybe Orton down the line, once they've done a bit of damage control.

[RGWhat316]

Well, I got a chance to see the PPV, and like many others I couldn't believe how bad it was. Started off with the exact injury happening to 2 people, we saw Hassan's debut look flat (he starts off the match with the same move), Kane gave a monster looking tombstone to Snitsky, then of course HHH wins the title. Like others on this board, I'm mainly upset that after all they went through in the last month, it goes right back to the person who had it to begin with.

I don't even know when this is ending. As much as I hate to say it, HHH will probably retain at WM. The guy who dominates more than anyone is gonna lose the main event 2 years in a row? Sorry but I just don't see that happening.

[Innovator]

I love how they built up Benoit in 2004 only to attempt to bury him/push him aside.

If Edge won the title and only had it for a week or so, maybe HBK costing him the title on RAW, wouldn't that push him over the edge (no pun intended)

[Londoner]

I can't believe i stayed up for this rubbish.Even randy orton beating batista and hhh woudl've made it worth watching. Or even Batista winning. It was a joke how they teased y2j winning it though, i mean like how they kept saying it was 3 years since he had been champion, and he lasted so long gave me abit of hope until Batista came in. Where the fuck are they going with that batista-hhh storyline now?

Maybe what i would do is have Batista finally get sick of HHH and turn against him. Have HHH turn face(not sure how but considering the standing ovation he got last night it shouldn't be to hard)and defend the title against Edge at the Rumble. Batista then costs HHH the title and Edge is the champ. Then you can have them face each other at wrestlemania. Or possibly like ive said before, make it a four way match between Batista/HHH/Edge and Orton and have Orton win.

This is the only thing that would interest me as there main event right now, they have to come up with something different instead of orton/hhh, cos if thats the main event then i refuse to order it.(we have to pay for wrestlemania in the UK this year)

[Loose Cannon]

you answered your own question. Of course Batista is turning on Trips, but Batista is going face.

[Londoner]

Yeah i realise i answered my own question when i was typing it out,lol.

[Innovator]

Ha, my sister asked how the PPV was and I told her about the two injuries. Heres her reaction to Eugene's

"A dropkick...isn't that like an easy move?"

It sucks for Eugene. I saw on the replay that he landed on his knee at an angle, so the dislocation could have happened easily.

[Astley316]

I stayed up to watch raw live the other night and was really ready to give wrestling na second chance and get into it again, but the way they handled that ppv, it was just awrful

[Mr. Nerfect]

I absolutely agree. I just wanted to clarify. Over the last decade or so, Vince is convinced that face-chasing-heel is the only way to go, so it was clearly going to go that way.

I wouldn't mind an Edge title reign. At this point, he's the only RAW main eventer (with the possible exception of Batista) who isn't un-believeable as World Champion due to burial. Maybe Orton down the line, once they've done a bit of damage control.

I disagree with a few things here. I agree that Triple H is probably the best bet as World Heavyweight Champion heading into WrestleMania, but it's not like they have no more events on the road there. You could have easily put the title on Jericho, then have Triple H win the title at the Royal Rumble (the second biggest PPV of the year in some people's minds). It would have done better as far as buys go, and it wouldn't have turned away anyone. Sure Jericho would be the shortest reigning World Heavyweight Champion of all time, but just seeing him win the Elimination Chamber would have made the event worth buying.

If the DVD sales for NYR are low, it will be no wonder why. One good match with a sad and predictable ending. Even my nine year old relative goes "That was a bad ending." when the match was over, and he loves Triple H.

I also don't think Edge would make a great World Champion right now. He's over, but they've made him seem like that heel that claims he deserves to be there, but hasn't proved it yet. Let him go over someone like HBK cleanly, then he'll make a great World Champion. :y:

Seriously, the only other things on this PPV that got me excited where Val Venis, Rob Conway & Sylvain Grenier showing some kind of personality, Rosey swimming in the pool with his superhero's outfit on (LOL!) and last, but not least, my favourite line from the PPV "Tomko, kick his ass!". Christian is great, and it looked like the tag team match with Tomko, Regal, Eugene and himself was going to be something good. Of course then there was Maven's promo, which was great (but not many people share my sentiments), but the matches just deflected everything Maven had going for him. I actually found it quite funny when JR was getting us ready for Hassan/Lawler and you could see Maven walking to the back, like 5 minutes after the Exploder. I was almost expecting him to wave to the camera he became such a joke.

And what's this? They put Maven in the main event of Survivor Series, then they can't have him wrestle at leats 5 minutes with Shelton Benjamin, who is extremely gifted in the ring?

There were so many things wrong with this PPV, and while the EC was a great match, it seemed so lacking in drawing my interest in future editions of RAW. I am almost tempted to think they're trying to turn some of their fans to SmackDown!, but nah, when has the WWE ever done anything for SmackDown!?

This is a feeling I've never felt towards the WWE before. I have been supportive of nearly all their programming. This is the first-time I've ever felt like their puppet, though. I'm going to watch RAW, and I'm going to watch SmackDown!, and I'm going to order the Royal Rumble, and now it seems so damn painfully obvious that that is all the WWE cares about. It seems they've lost their passion for their own product.

All I can say is I hope TNA keeps on going strong, because God knows the WWE needs competition to make them care how they build their shows.

[VonErich Lives]

So, I wake up and I'm pissed that I forgot to order/record the PPV, thought I did.

then I read the results and thank god.

2 injuries.

a pointless King match.

Coach on the Mic.

A pointless IC match.

Snitskeys buildup killed.

A horrible screw job ending, the only thing the main event did was setip a hbk v. edge match? WTF.

Can't blame the WWE for injuries, but even w/o those 2 matches couldn't have saved this crap.

[M. Banana]

Oh my god.. Stop giving Trips the fucking title. I can't be the only one who's sick of seeing him with the gold around his waist/on his shoulder. This should all just stop.. STOP. No more Trips damnit.