View Full Version : So it looks like we got ourself Edge vs HBK for WM 21 *NYR Spoilers*
Eunos
01-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Could prove interesting.
I hope they develop the storyline With Edge accidently hitting Michaels who retaliates with a Sweet Chin Music making Edge the first elimination.
Could be a potential Show stealer for WM21 with Edge going over Michaels.
Heyman
01-10-2005, 12:13 AM
Could prove interesting.
I hope they develop the storyline With Edge accidently hitting Michaels who retaliates with a Sweet Chin Music making Edge the first elimination.
Could be a potential Show stealer for WM21 with Edge going over Michaels.
Edge will go over HBK.
If Edge stays on RAW, I can see him feuding with Batista or Orton for the World title after WM.
John la Rock
01-10-2005, 12:43 AM
bad move
Everyone wants to see Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels
altho HBK vs Edge would be a good match, it wouldn't draw
Mr. Nerfect
01-10-2005, 01:12 AM
bad move
Everyone wants to see Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels
altho HBK vs Edge would be a good match, it wouldn't draw
I personally think Edge needs to go over HBK at WrestleMania. I would LOVE to see HBK vs. Angle (with Garrison Cade making his return to the WWE, alongside Angle), but I think it could easily be done at Summerslam.
GODSON
01-10-2005, 09:57 AM
I personally think Edge needs to go over HBK at WrestleMania. I would LOVE to see HBK vs. Angle (with Garrison Cade making his return to the WWE, alongside Angle), but I think it could easily be done at Summerslam.
WWE only do Raw vs.SD matches at Mania. Unless HBK switch to Smackdown after Mania.
Loose Cannon
01-10-2005, 10:01 AM
bad move
Everyone wants to see Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels
altho HBK vs Edge would be a good match, it wouldn't draw
who's everyone? Angle is hurt, so it wouldn't be as great a match as you would think.
Edge needs a big win and it definatelly should be Edge/HBK at Mania.
Then Edge will be lined up for the Title shot afterwards.
The CyNick
01-10-2005, 12:43 PM
Exactly.
This is what I was talking about in another thread (on here I think?). If you do HBK-Angle what purpose does it serve? They will have a great match, but it wont get either guy anymor eover than they already are. On top of that, I dont see HBK vs Angle drawing any extra buys. I dont think its a match on par with Hogan-Rock or Lesnar-Goldberg that casual fans will see and go "I gotta see that".
They need new stars, and Edge desperately needs a big win, so this seems like a logical step. Of course I thought Jerihco should have beat HBK in Seattle, but that didn't happen, so maybe this will be pointless as well.
Angle should also put someone new over, but I have a feeling he might still get Taker at Mania.
Innovator
01-10-2005, 12:45 PM
This match can make Edge's singles career, but do I have to remind everyone that it was certain Jericho would go over HBK two years ago at WM XIX?
Innovator
01-10-2005, 12:45 PM
crap Cynick beat me to it
Could prove interesting.
I hope they develop the storyline With Edge accidently hitting Michaels who retaliates with a Sweet Chin Music making Edge the first elimination.
Could be a potential Show stealer for WM21 with Edge going over Michaels.
You do realise you gave away Edge doesn't win the Elimination Chamber in that title right and thus "spoiling" the show for us who have lives and couldn't be arsed to stay up until 4am to watch?
Gouda
01-10-2005, 01:56 PM
You do realise you gave away Edge doesn't win the Elimination Chamber in that title right and thus "spoiling" the show for us who have lives and couldn't be arsed to stay up until 4am to watch?
Edge COULD have won and Shawn kicked him after he won it. Thus leading to the title of the thread. :shifty:
Mr. Nerfect
01-10-2005, 04:02 PM
You do realise you gave away Edge doesn't win the Elimination Chamber in that title right and thus "spoiling" the show for us who have lives and couldn't be arsed to stay up until 4am to watch?
Well, Edge/HBK isn't Edge/Triple H, so I guess the title spoils it anyway. :shifty:
I agree with what's already been said, Edge needs a win that can make the fans go "Woah, he's good.", that can be used for Edge to keep going until he reaches the World Heavyweight Championship.
A solid main event win at WrestleMania against a credible main event wrestler is one thing Edge is lacking, and one reason why you could have ruled him out to win the Elimination Chamber right from the start. They've got him in that main event slot, and they should keep him there, he just needs to earn that nail so he could hammer himself in there, and be a viable regular contender for the World Heavyweight Championship.
John la Rock
01-10-2005, 05:24 PM
do you think that HBK would actually put over Edge? He refused to put over Jericho so what makes Edge different?
John la Rock
01-10-2005, 05:25 PM
who's everyone? Angle is hurt, so it wouldn't be as great a match as you would think.
Angle was seriously hurt when he wrestled Brock at WM XIX and it was still a 4 star match (5 star if Brock hit the SSP)
Mr. Nerfect
01-10-2005, 05:41 PM
do you think that HBK would actually put over Edge? He refused to put over Jericho so what makes Edge different?
Because we are two years later, and Shawn Michaels is realising he is getting on in age. If Michaels could pass the torch to anyone in the WWE, it would be Edge or Jericho, and seeing as one has more heat than the other at the moment, it seems smarter to have Edge go over HBK.
Because we are two years later, and Shawn Michaels is realising he is getting on in age. If Michaels could pass the torch to anyone in the WWE, it would be Edge or Jericho, and seeing as one has more heat than the other at the moment, it seems smarter to have Edge go over HBK.
Logic does not apply in the WWE: backstage, or on screen.
HBK doesn't want to lose on the biggest show of the year, and because his best-friend is holding the booking reigns, he won't have to. And even if he DID lose to Edge at WrestleMania, no way in hell would it be clean, so it wouldn't serve any purpose as far as getting Edge over goes.
HBK is willing to put people over as long as it doesn't hurt his credibility. How many strong jobs has he done to put over the next generation of superstars since he returned in 2002? Given, he did help get Jeff Hardy out of his ditch during his face-paint bullshit, but that served relatively no purpose because Jeff was a waste to begin with, and even still, it didn't hurt HBK what-so-ever. HBK jobbed to Benoit at Backlash in 2003, but it was in a Triple Threat match; a mere silhouette of the WrestleMania match a month earlier, so it didn't elevate Chris Benoit either. And who can forget him beating Jericho at WrestleMania XIX, which, if done correctly, could have been the defining moment in Chris Jericho's career and could've pushed him into the World Title scene after Mania. Instead, I believe Jericho jobbed at Backlash in a 6-Man tag match, before jobbing to Goldberg on two consecutive PPVs.
The closest HBK has come to elevating talent since his return was a one-night only World Title match against RVD after he won the belt at Survivor Series 2002. RVD hit HBK with a 5 Star Frog Splash across his injured lower back, went for the cover, only to be broken up by interference and the match called a DQ. The near-victory helped RVD a tiny bit, but because he was never given a rematch or elevated into a strong feud with a heel (I think he jobbed the IC Title later that month), the end result was nothing.
To end my tirade, if Edge vs. Shawn Michaels does indeed take place at WrestleMania XXI, I will be very, very surprised if HBK does the clean job and puts over the overdue Edge.
Loose Cannon
01-10-2005, 06:17 PM
do you think that HBK would actually put over Edge? He refused to put over Jericho so what makes Edge different?
where did you here HBK refused to put over Jericho? That's called the people who control the outcome of the match. HBK might of refused to do jobs in the past, but his hands were clean on this one.
HeartBreakMan2k
01-10-2005, 06:18 PM
This will be the first time I've not been for putting over the next generation. I hate Edge (as a worker) with a passion and turn the channel anytime he's on. I'd be oppose to Moe of Men on a Mission doing the job for Edge, much less HBK.
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