Raw/Elimination Chamber - Smackdown/???

[SuperSlim]

I've just been thinking and realized that Raw really does have their own specialty match. Every chamber match has been a Raw only Chamber. The chamber has established that Raw label on it and except for the last one the others have been pretty good.

Looking at Smackdown! they have nothing to call their own. They don't have a specialty match just for SMackDown! like they do for Raw. So my question would be what sort of match could be created just for SmackDown! since Raw has the chamber?

[Sickboy]

Don't forget the "oh, so entertaining" Texas Bullrope match

[Crashnburn]

I've just been thinking and realized that Raw really does have their own specialty match. Every chamber match has been a Raw only Chamber. The chamber has established that Raw label on it and except for the last one the others have been pretty good.

Looking at Smackdown! they have nothing to call their own. They don't have a specialty match just for SMackDown! like they do for Raw. So my question would be what sort of match could be created just for SmackDown! since Raw has the chamber?

I've been thinking about the same thing. Originally I thought they had given the HIAC to SD but then Raw had one (can't remember who was in it or when it was but I remember them having one). For this new match are you looking for something along the lines of the EC or HIAC or just a specialty match (like different rules)?

[Xero]

I say give them Wargames or the Triple Tier Cage. I mean, I'm sure that when the WWE bought out WCW they got their equipment, so I would assume that they have both cages laying around somewhere. Although, with the slight ring size difference, there might be a size problem there.

[Crashnburn]

I say give them Wargames or the Triple Tier Cage. I mean, I'm sure that when the WWE bought out WCW they got their equipment, so I would assume that they have both cages laying around somewhere. Although, with the slight ring size difference, there might be a size problem there.



If they were to use the three tier cage I would hope they redesign the whole thing. The top cage didn't have any room for the wrestlers to do anything but slug it out. No moves, no suplexes, nothing but punching at each other.

[Loose Cannon]

I actually was thinking about this yesterday. Well, not the fact that Smackdown doesn't have a "specialty" match, but what kind of a new match is there to come up with. I study marketing and I'm always thinking about new concepts and different ideas to build a product. There has got to be so many different matches out there they could do that haven't even been discovered yet. The Royal Rumble match amazed viewers the first time it was done. Same for War Games. I should hold a contest on the main page to see who can come up with the best concept for a new match. :naughty:

[Crashnburn]

I actually was thinking about this yesterday. Well, not the fact that Smackdown doesn't have a "specialty" match, but what kind of a new match is there to come up with. I study marketing and I'm always thinking about new concepts and different ideas to build a product. There has got to be so many different matches out there they could do that haven't even been discovered yet. The Royal Rumble match amazed viewers the first time it was done. Same for War Games. I should hold a contest on the main page to see who can come up with the best concept for a new match. :naughty:

I've actually got several ideas for new matches. They're just not the same caliber of EC or HIAC.

[The Naitch]

lol I'd laugh if they did a ressurected the Triple Cage :lol:

[Loose Cannon]

I've actually got several ideas for new matches. They're just not the same caliber of EC or HIAC.

post them.

[RemyRed]

Make the Cell taller and hang a belt off the top of it, then you could have something like the Ultimate X match, but in a cage.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Make the Cell taller and hang a belt off the top of it, then you could have something like the Ultimate X match, but in a cage.

I two have been thinking about a match SmackDown! could use, and LC's right, there has to be something.

That idea was similair to one I had. The match was more of an Elimination Chamber-esque cage, with a chamber on top of it for some action, then at the top of the high chamber was the belt dangling (sort of like a Triple Cage).

Anyway, I can see a ladder match where you have to climb the ladder on top of an extra large cell, but that's just putting two ideas together.

I had an idea for a cage, but it was more suited to RAW. In fact most of these style matches are more suited to RAW. I can see SmackDown! with ground based matches, but I can't really see them taking it to caged levels (despite the Barbed Wire Cage Match at No Way Out rumoured to take place).

I don't know why, but I can see some kind of "dome" match, with the title susended above the top, with a steel floor grating like the Elimination Chamber, but their are trapdoors in it with weapons and such inside. Maybe even have chambers like the Elimination Chamber (so it feels like SD!'s version of the match). Have the winner the first man to take the title from the top. Have it all silver, since that colour seems to suit SmackDown!.

I don't know if I explained it well, though, but in my mind it could turn into something of an "all over the place" match like the Six-Man Hell in a Cell, or a very confined match like the Elimination Chamber.

[SuperSlim]

I've been thinking about the same thing. Originally I thought they had given the HIAC to SD but then Raw had one (can't remember who was in it or when it was but I remember them having one). For this new match are you looking for something along the lines of the EC or HIAC or just a specialty match (like different rules)?

speacilaty or non specialty. It doesn't matter to me. and that texas bull rope match doesn't count cause... I asy it doesn't. And the casket match doesn't count either cause it's been so overdone that noone really cares about those anymore.

so really somethin like LC said... soemthin fresh, new, captivating, something to draw the audience.

I don't have any ideas at the moment though. :(

[46 & 2]

Yappapi Indian Strap Match. There's just something hilarious about people (especially Hogan) saying "Yappapi".

[OssMan]

put a cage around the ring and take away the ropes and door.

[Xero]

Hrm, let's see.

How about a match like a Hell in a Cell. Just, instead of making it go outside the ring, have it regular-cage size, with it a few feet taller. Instead of chain linked fence, use the chain like in the Elimination Chamber, and hang a belt from the top. Basically the WWE's version of Ultimate X.

A Crucifixion Match. That speaks for itself. Have two symbols, say The Undertaker's and The Rock's Brahma Bull (for example's sake), and they have to strap their opponent to their symbol and physically raise it themselves (via crank or something similar). If they escape before it reaches a certain height, the match continues.

A Chain Cage Match. Basically like my first idea, only it doesn't have a top and you win only by escaping over the top.

A Ring of Tables Match. Basically, make something the height of the old Lion's Den, throw a ring on top of it, and surround the ring with tables stacked up by two. The first one to throw their opponent out of the ring and through the tables wins.

While we're on the subject, with Puder on SmackDown! now, why not make the Lion's Den exclusive to SmackDown! It could work I'd say, especially with Puder's UFC background.

[Loose Cannon]

K, Just throwing out ideas here. These are probably going to suck, but maybe we can build on them.

IDEA #1: You know those huge Nets you can climb up. Like you ever see Real World Challenge when they have to climb up those circus looking kind of nets? Well let's say connected to a huge bridge like 40 feet up is one of those Nets. The net goes from the outside arena floor all the way up to the bridge and is about 40 feet high and 10 feet wide. So a section of the crowd will be blocked by this net. Now let's just say you have 10 wrestlers wrestling for the World Title. Remember I said the Net is connected to the bridge right? Well the bridge is about 15 feet long and it goes all the way across to a platform which holds the World Title. The Title is in a case on a pedistule.

The object is too simply climb up the net, cross the bridge and grab the Title. BUT..Here's the thing.

1) Every 10 minutes something is done to the net and the bridge, which makes it harder to get up and get across. Light the net on fire, freeze it, put tar on it, have it shake, whatever. Same for the Bridge.

2) If you fall off the net once while climbing, you get a 5 min time out. If you fall off twice you're eliminated.

3) At the bottom of the bridge is another net, like in the circus, where if somebody falls, the net catches them. Well it's the same here and if you get thrown off the bridge, you are also eliminated.

4) Last person standing wins.


LOL OK. Next

[Savio]

Me and Dub had a match at Forum Mania 1 that I thought of. Metal Floor, Ropes wrapped in chain (Or the ropes were chain), and put a metal stand covering the turnbuckles

I was also thinking have the ring raised 10 feet then have a battle royal.

[Shadow]

Heh...wanna see a great concept for a match?

The Hornet's Nest

The Hornet's Nest is basically a suspended cage match. The cage is actually a 4 sided cell which is slightly smaller than the ring istelf. Before the match begins, all 6 members will enter the cell and the door will be locked. Then the cell will be hoisted until it hangs about 15-20 feet above the ring. There will be a trapdoor in the ceiling of the cage. Hanging directly below the cage will be whatever belt/prize that is up for grabs in the match. In this case it will be the XTV title. The object of the match is to climb out the trapdoor, down the side of the cage, and to the bottom in order to retrieve the belt. Whoever does so wins the match and is crowned champ.

For logistics purposes, the cell will resemble the old WWF cages of the 80's (think Hogan v. Bundy @ WMII), comprised of steel bars instead of a traditional chain link fencing. This will make it easier for combatants to gain a foothold and climb down the sides. Of course, an added danger will be that opponents on the inside of the cell can still try to make you fall from the cell. Since there's no ring involved during the actual match, this will be more of a brawl than a regular match, as you won't be able to run off the ropes to perform aerial manuvers. Technically wrestlers can still dive off the cage sides, but damn... what a hell of an impact if you miss your target!

And just for clarity, I didn't come up with this match idea. This idea was thought up by the venerable Matt Storm. You guys don't know him

[Loose Cannon]

Try not to think "Cage" match. Try to get away from anything havign to do with cages, ladders, tables, etc... It's tough, I know.

[Savio]

I was thinking of something lik that to except a regular cage. The Objective would be to slam the guy throught the center.
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No cages?

Have the opponent pin you match. knock out the guy for 3 seconds so he can pin you.

Catch the midget.

Crucified match

Bring back the "Lions Den"

Have the ropes be pipes.

First to pin Ref match.

[Stickman]

I think alot of these ideas are too "American Gladiatorish".

How about a cage inside a hell in the cell with dogs around the ring. Wait a second...

[Xero]

A trapped match. This is where there will be six participants and five chambers, like the Elimination Chamber match, only without the cage. Each of the five chambers are behind each of the ring posts each with a platform leading to it and one is suspended above the ring filled with weapons. All the wrestlers start out at the beginning of the match in a normal ring. At the ten minute mark, one chamber opens. Every five minutes after that another chamber opens except for the chamber suspended above the ring. The object of the match is to get your opponents inside each of the four chambers. When it's down to the final two, the chamber filled with weapons descends and is now in play. To win, you must pin your opponent and then put him in the chamber filled with weapons within a minute.

[Crashnburn]

post them.

The first two match ideas are kind of along the lines of Survivor Series or the Ironman match.

Domination Match - Match would have 4 to 6 wrestlers involved the match. The goal is to score a pin or a submission on each one of his opponets. Example, If Eddie, Booker, JBL, RVD, Undertaker, Big Show are in the match, for Eddie to win the match he would have to score a pin fall or submission on Booker, JBL, RVD, Undertaker, and Big Show. I picture their being a scoreboard like for the Ironman except this will show who has pinned or foced a submission on who. I think it would be a good match with a lot of opportunity for twists and turns.

Pyramid Match - Doesn't actually involve a pyramid, I just call it that because of the structure of the match. You start with 4 vs 4 tag match. From their the losing team is eliminated and the surviving team is divided at random into two teams of two which starts the next part of a 2 vs 2 tag match. From their the losing team is eliminated and the surviving team is then divided and that starts the final part of the match of 1 vs 1 singles match. Yes, this potentially could be a really long match but you have to remember the longer it goes the more battered and bruised the wrestlers will be which means that the final part doesn't have to last forever. If I were to book this match I would schedule for about an hour like the Royal Rumble or an Ironman Match. I figured this match would be really interesting because you don't want to start the match with a heel team vs a face team because that means at the end you will have either all faces or all heels so in order to avoid that the wrestlers will be all mixed, heels teamed with faces. Example: JBL, Eddie, RVD, and Luther Reigns vs Kurt Angle, Booker T, Orlando Jordan, and Big Show. This way it also adds in the drama of the heels and faces having to work with each other. We would get to see how the faces would react to how the heels use heel tactics (of course wouldn't be a problem for Eddie but you get the point).

The Last Match Idea I have had for awhile and does involve a cage and its kind of along the lines or RemyRed's idea.

The Tower - A cylindrical cage fits around the ring like the EC but I don't want it as wide as the EC. I want it to fit tight on the ring. And the walls and ceiling will not be made of chains or chain-link but of the metal bars like the old blue cage that WWE had. From the center of the ceiling a belt will be hung. The object will be to climb the sides of the cage, once the wrestler reaches the ceiling he will have to work his way to the center by using the ceiling like monkey bars. I first came up with the match as a specialty for the cruiserweights. I figured this would be WWE's answer to the Ultimate X match only 10 times better.

Sorry my post was so long. Let me know what you think about the ideas.

[Crashnburn]

Me and Dub had a match at Forum Mania 1 that I thought of. Metal Floor, Ropes wrapped in chain (Or the ropes were chain), and put a metal stand covering the turnbuckles

I was also thinking have the ring raised 10 feet then have a battle royal.

Could call it a Heavy Metal match but that's a little 90's'ish.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The first two match ideas are kind of along the lines of Survivor Series or the Ironman match.

Domination Match - Match would have 4 to 6 wrestlers involved the match. The goal is to score a pin or a submission on each one of his opponets. Example, If Eddie, Booker, JBL, RVD, Undertaker, Big Show are in the match, for Eddie to win the match he would have to score a pin fall or submission on Booker, JBL, RVD, Undertaker, and Big Show. I picture their being a scoreboard like for the Ironman except this will show who has pinned or foced a submission on who. I think it would be a good match with a lot of opportunity for twists and turns.

Pyramid Match - Doesn't actually involve a pyramid, I just call it that because of the structure of the match. You start with 4 vs 4 tag match. From their the losing team is eliminated and the surviving team is divided at random into two teams of two which starts the next part of a 2 vs 2 tag match. From their the losing team is eliminated and the surviving team is then divided and that starts the final part of the match of 1 vs 1 singles match. Yes, this potentially could be a really long match but you have to remember the longer it goes the more battered and bruised the wrestlers will be which means that the final part doesn't have to last forever. If I were to book this match I would schedule for about an hour like the Royal Rumble or an Ironman Match. I figured this match would be really interesting because you don't want to start the match with a heel team vs a face team because that means at the end you will have either all faces or all heels so in order to avoid that the wrestlers will be all mixed, heels teamed with faces. Example: JBL, Eddie, RVD, and Luther Reigns vs Kurt Angle, Booker T, Orlando Jordan, and Big Show. This way it also adds in the drama of the heels and faces having to work with each other. We would get to see how the faces would react to how the heels use heel tactics (of course wouldn't be a problem for Eddie but you get the point).

The Last Match Idea I have had for awhile and does involve a cage and its kind of along the lines or RemyRed's idea.

The Tower - A cylindrical cage fits around the ring like the EC but I don't want it as wide as the EC. I want it to fit tight on the ring. And the walls and ceiling will not be made of chains or chain-link but of the metal bars like the old blue cage that WWE had. From the center of the ceiling a belt will be hung. The object will be to climb the sides of the cage, once the wrestler reaches the ceiling he will have to work his way to the center by using the ceiling like monkey bars. I first came up with the match as a specialty for the cruiserweights. I figured this would be WWE's answer to the Ultimate X match only 10 times better.

Sorry my post was so long. Let me know what you think about the ideas.

Great ideas man. The Domination Match is something I had pictured before, but I didn't have a name for it. I was thinking "Round" something, since it reminds me a bit of a Round Robin tournament.

The Pyramid Match is another idea I had thought of, but I couldn't have pictured it as good as you made it sound. Making it one match instead of like a tournament is much better than my envisionment. Great work man.

The Tower is something original, and I like it. I've pictured matches where they have to climb along the roof to get to the title, but you idea sounds so brutal and dangerous.

I was trying to picture a match that could showcase the cruiserweights, but I could never hit gold. At one stage I was thinking something like a "Playhouse" match, with flying foxes and bars everywhere. :wtf:

How does this sound (this is something pretty crap I just came up with on the spot)? A ring with giant polls for ring posts, but with ropes and turnbuckles all the way up. The winner is the first to climb up the 10 or so sets of ropes, and manages to call the title over. Maybe you can put a spin on things and have it like a Texas Bullrope Match, where you have to control all the top turnbuckles to win the title. You could even have pinfall or submission to eliminate wrestlers.

How about a match where there are either a lot of little rings (I'm thinking five), that are say, 6ft by 6ft. I don't know why, but I can easily see a cruiserweight springboarding off one side of the ring, hitting their legs on the opposite set of ropes, then flipping forward with a 450 Splash. You get eliminated if you are pinned or submit, and the last guy is the winner.

Another idea is a massive rectangular ring, which is made to look like six or eights rings put together (so let's say 60-80ft by 40ft, if that's possible, or maybe you can shrink them down a bit). You can then you have one set of ropes seperating the rings frome each other. It wouldn't only be good for cruiserweights, but you could use it for anybody. Maybe even have a tag team/singles tournament in the eight rings? LOL, it would sort of be like woodchopping. You could even have a little timer, and then on the DVD, you can release a close-ups of the matches. So say they have a PPV "Fully Loaded", you have 20 minutes or so with the eight ring action, then you have a Battle Royal (how great would a Royal Rumble type match in this sort of thing be?), and maybe have a cruiserweight match. You can then have ten interesting matches on the DVD, or just watch the three segments.

I've got some specialty matches, but no real original ideas not using a cage.

[Mr. Nerfect]

K, Just throwing out ideas here. These are probably going to suck, but maybe we can build on them.

IDEA #1: You know those huge Nets you can climb up. Like you ever see Real World Challenge when they have to climb up those circus looking kind of nets? Well let's say connected to a huge bridge like 40 feet up is one of those Nets. The net goes from the outside arena floor all the way up to the bridge and is about 40 feet high and 10 feet wide. So a section of the crowd will be blocked by this net. Now let's just say you have 10 wrestlers wrestling for the World Title. Remember I said the Net is connected to the bridge right? Well the bridge is about 15 feet long and it goes all the way across to a platform which holds the World Title. The Title is in a case on a pedistule.

The object is too simply climb up the net, cross the bridge and grab the Title. BUT..Here's the thing.

1) Every 10 minutes something is done to the net and the bridge, which makes it harder to get up and get across. Light the net on fire, freeze it, put tar on it, have it shake, whatever. Same for the Bridge.

2) If you fall off the net once while climbing, you get a 5 min time out. If you fall off twice you're eliminated.

3) At the bottom of the bridge is another net, like in the circus, where if somebody falls, the net catches them. Well it's the same here and if you get thrown off the bridge, you are also eliminated.

4) Last person standing wins.


LOL OK. Next

I love that idea, but I wouldn't have it change, or shake. Just have it be like a "Scaffold Match" sort of thing, but with it being like a Battle Royal. Or you can have it just be, you have to go to the start again to try and catch back up.

[Crashnburn]

Great ideas man. The Domination Match is something I had pictured before, but I didn't have a name for it. I was thinking "Round" something, since it reminds me a bit of a Round Robin tournament.

The Pyramid Match is another idea I had thought of, but I couldn't have pictured it as good as you made it sound. Making it one match instead of like a tournament is much better than my envisionment. Great work man.

The Tower is something original, and I like it. I've pictured matches where they have to climb along the roof to get to the title, but you idea sounds so brutal and dangerous.

I was trying to picture a match that could showcase the cruiserweights, but I could never hit gold. At one stage I was thinking something like a "Playhouse" match, with flying foxes and bars everywhere. :wtf:

How does this sound (this is something pretty crap I just came up with on the spot)? A ring with giant polls for ring posts, but with ropes and turnbuckles all the way up. The winner is the first to climb up the 10 or so sets of ropes, and manages to call the title over. Maybe you can put a spin on things and have it like a Texas Bullrope Match, where you have to control all the top turnbuckles to win the title. You could even have pinfall or submission to eliminate wrestlers.

How about a match where there are either a lot of little rings (I'm thinking five), that are say, 6ft by 6ft. I don't know why, but I can easily see a cruiserweight springboarding off one side of the ring, hitting their legs on the opposite set of ropes, then flipping forward with a 450 Splash. You get eliminated if you are pinned or submit, and the last guy is the winner.

Another idea is a massive rectangular ring, which is made to look like six or eights rings put together (so let's say 60-80ft by 40ft, if that's possible, or maybe you can shrink them down a bit). You can then you have one set of ropes seperating the rings frome each other. It wouldn't only be good for cruiserweights, but you could use it for anybody. Maybe even have a tag team/singles tournament in the eight rings? LOL, it would sort of be like woodchopping. You could even have a little timer, and then on the DVD, you can release a close-ups of the matches. So say they have a PPV "Fully Loaded", you have 20 minutes or so with the eight ring action, then you have a Battle Royal (how great would a Royal Rumble type match in this sort of thing be?), and maybe have a cruiserweight match. You can then have ten interesting matches on the DVD, or just watch the three segments.

I've got some specialty matches, but no real original ideas not using a cage.

Thanks for the kind words, Alienoid06. I really like your last idea with the six or eight rings but I think it would eat up too much floor space. I can see it being a Royal Rumble style match having to get your opponent from one ring to another till you finally get them out of the ring(s) entirely. That would be frantic and crazy. I could deffinately see some interesting aerial moves.

I thought of another use for the EC if anybody wants to take a look.
Tag Team Elimination Chamber - Four Tag Teams involved. One man from each team is locked in a Chamber leaving one member of each team in the ring to start off the match. Just like usual the object in to eliminate your opponents. When one member of a team is eliminated the other member is eliminated automatically. The chambers will open a random just like in a regular EC match. Last team standing wins.

[SuperSlim]

I liked that pyramid idea. kinda like a sub for the King of the Ring tourney ya know. The KOR became too predictable but that sort of match... you couldn't really predict the winner. Gold :y:

[Crashnburn]

I liked that pyramid idea. kinda like a sub for the King of the Ring tourney ya know. The KOR became too predictable but that sort of match... you couldn't really predict the winner. Gold :y:

Thank you for the feedback and your thoughts on the match. I hadn't thought of doing it as a KOTR yet, but now that you mention it that's a great idea.

[Savio]

Net/Bridge IdeaVince: Jesse, I want you to come up with a match that can kill a few wrestlers.....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Thanks for the kind words, Alienoid06. I really like your last idea with the six or eight rings but I think it would eat up too much floor space. I can see it being a Royal Rumble style match having to get your opponent from one ring to another till you finally get them out of the ring(s) entirely. That would be frantic and crazy. I could deffinately see some interesting aerial moves.

I thought of another use for the EC if anybody wants to take a look.
Tag Team Elimination Chamber - Four Tag Teams involved. One man from each team is locked in a Chamber leaving one member of each team in the ring to start off the match. Just like usual the object in to eliminate your opponents. When one member of a team is eliminated the other member is eliminated automatically. The chambers will open a random just like in a regular EC match. Last team standing wins.

I've thought about a Tag Team Chamber, but I think they should make the chambers larger and have two members in each one. Or just have a member from one team start out with the member of another one, then release the team members one at a time (so no advantage is necissarily given). So on SmackDown! you could have:

-RVD and Doug Basham start.
-Luther Reigns comes in.
-Rey Mysterio gets in.
-Luther Reigns is eliminated.
-Mark Jindrak comes in.
-Danny Basham comes in.
-Rey Mysterio is eliminated.
-Doug Basham is eliminated.
-Mark Jindrak is eliminated.
-Danny Basham is eliminated
Winners: RVD & Rey Mysterio

I think you should limit it to three teams if you have them one at a time. I wouldn't mind seeing something like this, though:

-Rey Mysterio/Rob Van Dam & Eddie Guerrero/Booker T start.
-Mark Jindrak/Luther Reigns come in.
-The Basham Brothers come in.
-The Shane Twins come in.
-Mark Jindrak is eliminated.
-Hardcore Holly/Charlie Haas come in.
-Doug Basham is eliminated.
-Rey Mysterio is eliminated.
-Booker T is eliminated.
-Charlie Haas is eliminated.
-Hardcore Holly is eliminated.
-Danny Basham is eliminated.
-Eddie Guerrero is eliminated.
-A Shane Twin is eliminated.
-Luther Reigns is eliminated.
-Rob Van Dam is eliminated.
Winners: The Shane Twins.

It would be so clustered with something like this.

I agree my idea would take up way to much floor space, but I guess you could make it four rings arranged in a square, or even just do it at house show as a "WTF?" moment, to make people feel like something itneresting will happen if they go to a show. Maybe they could even just sell less tickets or something? The crowd would be hot regardless, and it would come off well on TV.

I'm probably dreaming, though.

[Kapoutman]

I came up with a Iron Man Royal Rumble idea a while ago. You take a Royal Rumble, but make it 5 minutes between each entrants. You have pinfalls and submissions being valid, and stretch the damn thing over the entire show. No more over the top, and you can spill all over the ringside area, up to the ramp. MAYHEM.

My brother, who is a crazy bastard, thought of a match he called "The Obstacle Course". He said that you take 6 guys, make it legal to spill the match up to the ramp/beside the ramp, and that the match continues until one man prevails. The thing is that you would have random props everywhere, like glass plates standing near the ramp, barbed wire over the ropes, tables surrounding the ring, thumbtacks at the bottom of the ramp, a baseball bat/chair/lead pipe tied to each turnbuckle, and so on.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I came up with a Iron Man Royal Rumble idea a while ago. You take a Royal Rumble, but make it 5 minutes between each entrants. You have pinfalls and submissions being valid, and stretch the damn thing over the entire show. No more over the top, and you can spill all over the ringside area, up to the ramp. MAYHEM.

My brother, who is a crazy bastard, thought of a match he called "The Obstacle Course". He said that you take 6 guys, make it legal to spill the match up to the ramp/beside the ramp, and that the match continues until one man prevails. The thing is that you would have random props everywhere, like glass plates standing near the ramp, barbed wire over the ropes, tables surrounding the ring, thumbtacks at the bottom of the ramp, a baseball bat/chair/lead pipe tied to each turnbuckle, and so on.

Both those ideas are good. I've been wanting to see a pinfall/submission Rumble for a long, long time.

Maybe you could have a "Hot Tag" match, where you have multiple men (let's say Eddie Guerrero, The Undertaker, JBL, The Big Show, Kurt Angle and Booker T). You have one man legal, so he is the only one who can make pins/submissions, or take them. Then after one elimination, you have the "hot" wrestler that's it in the spotlight. Then when another elimination has taken place it changes again.

Or you could just have it rotate every five minutes or something, or have the person that's "it" be the only one who can take falls, or only they can make falls. It all really depends on what mood the WWE's in.

I had a whole list of specialty matches typed out, but then my power cut, but they were your usual build-on-an-idea style matches. It was just stuff like a Texas Bullrope style match,minus the bullrope, where you need to get control off all "controllable" corners to make a pinfall or submission. There was a First Blood Match, where you need to pin them or make them submit after they are bleeding. A Metal-Mat Match where the mat is made out of metal. A Flood Match, where there is water around the ring (not enought oo flood the crowd or anything). And last, but not least, a Glass Table Match.

[Gouda]

How about a Hell in the Cell match but- get this, you have DOGS on the outside that will totally attack you. They can call it the Kennel from Hell!!

I sense big money in it.

[AareDub]

Not sure what brought me into the wrestling forum tonight, but I'm bored so what the hell.

I'd like to see them do something like Kapoutman was saying with the Royal Rumble thing. More like the Battle Royal/Royal Rumble on the old N64 wrestling games. 4 in at a time, no over the top elimination, pinfall or submission only, no countouts etc. There would only be like 6 - 10 entrants though because it would take forever if done properly.

I guess it still solves the problem though, Elimination Chamber has 6 entrants (I think, lol it's been a while) so the new battle royal type match could have 6.

If that would work there would have to be some justification for the 2 men getting to come in after everyone else is worn down. Hmm... now I'm just brainstorming as I type. Perhaps they draw for places at the beginning of the show. 4 spots are drawn to start and the other 2 do not start. The ones that ddn't have to start in the main event match have to wrestle each other right then to open the show. The winner gets the final entry spot. That way nobody has too much of an unfair advantage.

If all that wasn't complicated enough, why not give the person who makes the actual cover for the pin get a 1 minute rest period.

So it all breaks down like this:

2 guys wrestle at the beginning of the show for spots 5 and 6.

Later on the main event starts with the other 4 in the ring. There are plenty of opportunities 3 on 1 action, 2 on 2, and 1 on 1 split into 2 different sections.

Guy 1 pins guy 3 (for example sake) Guy 1 rests for 1 minute while 5 enters and its triple threat for 1 minute between 5, 2, and 4. After the minute, 1 comes back and it's back to Fatal Four Way.

2 pins 1, and the same drill happens as 6 comes in. Triple threat for a minute while 2 gets the break.

Eventually more pins happen, somebody wins, etc.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not sure what brought me into the wrestling forum tonight, but I'm bored so what the hell.

I'd like to see them do something like Kapoutman was saying with the Royal Rumble thing. More like the Battle Royal/Royal Rumble on the old N64 wrestling games. 4 in at a time, no over the top elimination, pinfall or submission only, no countouts etc. There would only be like 6 - 10 entrants though because it would take forever if done properly.

I guess it still solves the problem though, Elimination Chamber has 6 entrants (I think, lol it's been a while) so the new battle royal type match could have 6.

If that would work there would have to be some justification for the 2 men getting to come in after everyone else is worn down. Hmm... now I'm just brainstorming as I type. Perhaps they draw for places at the beginning of the show. 4 spots are drawn to start and the other 2 do not start. The ones that ddn't have to start in the main event match have to wrestle each other right then to open the show. The winner gets the final entry spot. That way nobody has too much of an unfair advantage.

If all that wasn't complicated enough, why not give the person who makes the actual cover for the pin get a 1 minute rest period.

So it all breaks down like this:

2 guys wrestle at the beginning of the show for spots 5 and 6.

Later on the main event starts with the other 4 in the ring. There are plenty of opportunities 3 on 1 action, 2 on 2, and 1 on 1 split into 2 different sections.

Guy 1 pins guy 3 (for example sake) Guy 1 rests for 1 minute while 5 enters and its triple threat for 1 minute between 5, 2, and 4. After the minute, 1 comes back and it's back to Fatal Four Way.

2 pins 1, and the same drill happens as 6 comes in. Triple threat for a minute while 2 gets the break.

Eventually more pins happen, somebody wins, etc.

Good ideas, but I think it could just work as a "Turmoil Match", where you have the order completely random, and you don't get any rest.

[Bazooka]

BALL PIT MATCH:

http://jamma.blogware.com/_photos/ottawa%20trip%20004.jpg

Could be 6-8 men in a match, to win the match you have to beat your opponent senseless and scurry to the bottom of the ball pit and find a tunnel. Once you reach the tunnel, you have to crawl through into a circular plastic bubble, in there you have to battle, and pin many midgets to advance to the next... Nah, im kidding. :cool:

[Mr. Nerfect]

BALL PIT MATCH:

http://jamma.blogware.com/_photos/ottawa%20trip%20004.jpg

Could be 6-8 men in a match, to win the match you have to beat your opponent senseless and scurry to the bottom of the ball pit and find a tunnel. Once you reach the tunnel, you have to crawl through into a circular plastic bubble, in there you have to battle, and pin many midgets to advance to the next... Nah, im kidding. :cool:

But how great would it be to see Eugene name that as a gimmick match. :cool:

Christian vs. Eugene in a Ball Pit Match would actually be pretty decent (I'm being serious). A moonsault off the mesh top into the balls equals ratings.

[Disturbed316]

I dont care which brand does it, but they need to bring back War Games :mad:

[Innovator]

Inferno Hell in a Cell japanese deathmatch loser jobs to HHH match

tigers optional

[Shaggy]

Inferno Hell in a Cell japanese deathmatch loser jobs to HHH match

tigers optional

sounds like an interesting idea......

Smackdown has the Casket Match....for the only reason that Undertaker is over there.

I would like to see the return of the Triple Cage from WcW...or Wargames...or the World War 3 battle royal thing. Those would be great to return. If WWE wanted some ratings they should take off those wcw ideas

[Crashnburn]

How about a Hell in the Cell match but- get this, you have DOGS on the outside that will totally attack you. They can call it the Kennel from Hell!!

I sense big money in it.


Ok we all know the kennel match with Bossman and Al Snow sucked but I think the basic idea is a decent one. Get rid of the dogs and you have to admitt a cage inside of a HIAC is interesting idea. If we could just come up with an stipulation to add to it to make it more special. Maybe outside the cage but inside the cell is lumberjacks so anyone who climbs over the cage gets beat by the lumberjacks. Or maybe there could be weapons attaced to the walls of the Cell. Weapson like chairs, chains, kendo sticks, sledgehammers, etc. If anybody else has any other ideas please post them.

[Xero]

Smackdown has the Casket Match....for the only reason that Undertaker is over there.

I'll be technical here and say it's not really SmackDown! exclusive, since during the Katie Vick angle, Kane and Triple H had a Casket Match.

Has there ever been a finisher match? I know it was an option in the old Attitude and War Zone games, but did it ever happen? You could basically pull it off by having two guys wrestle, each with a designated move. So, for example, if it's Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho, Jericho would have to hit the Lionsault and Benoit would have to hit the flying headbutt to win.

How about a disqualification match? Sort of like a reverse No DQ match, or just a weapons match. In it, you must hit your opponent 10 times in a row with a specific weapon to win.

Sort of like the Finisher match, how about a timed submission match, where you must keep your opponent in a designated hold for say a minute. If they're knocked out before you put the move on, the match is stopped until they regain consciousness.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'll be technical here and say it's not really SmackDown! exclusive, since during the Katie Vick angle, Kane and Triple H had a Casket Match.

Has there ever been a finisher match? I know it was an option in the old Attitude and War Zone games, but did it ever happen? You could basically pull it off by having two guys wrestle, each with a designated move. So, for example, if it's Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho, Jericho would have to hit the Lionsault and Benoit would have to hit the flying headbutt to win.

How about a disqualification match? Sort of like a reverse No DQ match, or just a weapons match. In it, you must hit your opponent 10 times in a row with a specific weapon to win.

Sort of like the Finisher match, how about a timed submission match, where you must keep your opponent in a designated hold for say a minute. If they're knocked out before you put the move on, the match is stopped until they regain consciousness.

I too wonder if there was ever a Finisher Match. It would make an interesting match. I like your last idea as well. Benoit vs. Jericho in that match would be simply awesome. I wouldn't wait until they wake up though, I'd just use that to fuel the match. I can here JR now "BAH GAWD! JERICHO'S KNOCKED OUT, THERE'S NO WAY HE CAN GET OUT OF THE CRIPPLER CROSSFACE!!!!!!!!!".

Maybe have rope breaks legal as well, so you can get out via coutnering or reaching the ropes.

[Nark Order]

They have the Parking Lot Brawl

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ultimate Stable Match

It combines elements of a Survivor Series Elimination Match and a fatal 4 way match.

4 teams of 4 guys. 1 guy starts in the ring with each team, with the other 3 men standing at one of the corners. Basically, there's always gonna be 4 guys in the ring fighting until 1 team gets totally eliminated. Wrestlers can tag in a member of their own team whenever they want. When a wrestler is pinned or submits, then he is eliminated. The match continues until 3 teams have been completely eliminated.</font>

[SuperSlim]

They have the Parking Lot Brawl

that doesn't count cause it even isn't done anymore. and it would only really fit Eddie

[Mr. Nerfect]

<font color=goldenrod>Ultimate Stable Match

It combines elements of a Survivor Series Elimination Match and a fatal 4 way match.

4 teams of 4 guys. 1 guy starts in the ring with each team, with the other 3 men standing at one of the corners. Basically, there's always gonna be 4 guys in the ring fighting until 1 team gets totally eliminated. Wrestlers can tag in a member of their own team whenever they want. When a wrestler is pinned or submits, then he is eliminated. The match continues until 3 teams have been completely eliminated.</font>

That sounds interesting. :y:

I really like that idea.

[Savio]

that doesn't count cause it even isn't done anymore. and it would only really fit Eddie...Or Cena.

[SuperSlim]

I was thinkin bout Cena... but face Cena it doesn't fit with. Heel Cena it would fit with.
Turn Cena Heel :D

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Another idea I just thought of:

All of the wrestlers involved in the match (doesn't have to be a set amount) draw numbers. Whoever get 1 and 2 start in the ring, with the rest of the wrestlers on the outside (all of which stand in a set entrance order). If they don't do the thing about standing in entrance order, then on the Titan Tron they could have a list of all of the participants, like this:

Akio
-Billy Kidman
Chavo Guerrero
Funaki
Nunzio
*Paul London
Psicosis
Shannon Moore
*Spike Dudley
Super Crazy

* would mean that the wrestler is in the ring, - would mean that the wrestler is due to enter next

Basically here's the rules:

-You're eliminated if you're pinned or submit, and the next queued wrestler comes in.
-If you end up outside of the ring in any way, shape, or form, the next wrestler in the queue jumps in and takes your place and you go to the end of the queue to re-enter later.
-You are only allowed to INTENTIONALLY leave the ring once, so use it wisely. If you intentionally leave the ring a 2nd time, you're automatically eliminated (this is to keep heels from chickening out and constantly leaving intentionally)
-Last man left is the winner.

I can see this working REALLY well with the cruiserweights (imagine a 10+ man cruiserweight match like this). However, if the WWE did this I doubt they'd give it enough time to do it justice. It COULD work as the mid-card match or WWE Title match too, though.</font>

[Mr. Nerfect]

<font color=goldenrod>Another idea I just thought of:

All of the wrestlers involved in the match (doesn't have to be a set amount) draw numbers. Whoever get 1 and 2 start in the ring, with the rest of the wrestlers on the outside (all of which stand in a set entrance order). If they don't do the thing about standing in entrance order, then on the Titan Tron they could have a list of all of the participants, like this:

Akio
-Billy Kidman
Chavo Guerrero
Funaki
Nunzio
*Paul London
Psicosis
Shannon Moore
*Spike Dudley
Super Crazy

* would mean that the wrestler is in the ring, - would mean that the wrestler is due to enter next

Basically here's the rules:

-You're eliminated if you're pinned or submit, and the next queued wrestler comes in.
-If you end up outside of the ring in any way, shape, or form, the next wrestler in the queue jumps in and takes your place and you go to the end of the queue to re-enter later.
-You are only allowed to INTENTIONALLY leave the ring once, so use it wisely. If you intentionally leave the ring a 2nd time, you're automatically eliminated (this is to keep heels from chickening out and constantly leaving intentionally)
-Last man left is the winner.

I can see this working REALLY well with the cruiserweights (imagine a 10+ man cruiserweight match like this). However, if the WWE did this I doubt they'd give it enough time to do it justice. It COULD work as the mid-card match or WWE Title match too, though.</font>

That sounds great. I can see some kind of "Bench Match" working with them as well, where there are two teams, and you can tag the next person on your team. Pinfall or submission eliminates a member, and the last team left wins. You could make it so there are no tags, and just have one member go on for as long as he can.

It wouldn't get the time it deserves, but it doesn't just have to be for cruiserweights. I got this idea form an indy show (but it's been done before that, and has a Mexican name).

[Cool King]

I heard that *Spoiler Highlight to see* No Way Out will be headlined by a barbed wire cage match between Big Show and JBL for the WWE Title.
So maybe that's SmackDown!'s special match. :-\

[Mr. Nerfect]

I heard that *Spoiler Highlight to see* No Way Out will be headlined by a barbed wire cage match between Big Show and JBL for the WWE Title.
So maybe that's SmackDown!'s special match. :-\

That's likely, but I hope it becomes more of a trademark to No Way Out than SmackDown!.

[James Steele]

I really think a cool idea (like someone mentioned earlier, but can't remember who) where they have to like make them bleed and then pin him to win.

Combine the 2/3 Falls match and that idea. Call it a "Triple Play" match. 3 stipulations are determined upon (like First Blood,Submission Match,and Last Man Standing Match)

Which superstar is the first to pull off a "Triple Play" or "Hat Trick" and making his opponent bleed,make him tap out, and knock him out for the 10 count wins the match. I think it is an awesome variation on the 2/3 falls match and takes away the "obvious 3rd fall" that plagues the 2/3 falls match.

The only drawback is that it will take a LONG LONG TIME. (Plus, WWE would most likely have it repeat itself, ie: A pins B, then B pins A, A makes B tap out, and so on.)

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really think a cool idea (like someone mentioned earlier, but can't remember who) where they have to like make them bleed and then pin him to win.

Combine the 2/3 Falls match and that idea. Call it a "Triple Play" match. 3 stipulations are determined upon (like First Blood,Submission Match,and Last Man Standing Match)

Which superstar is the first to pull off a "Triple Play" or "Hat Trick" and making his opponent bleed,make him tap out, and knock him out for the 10 count wins the match. I think it is an awesome variation on the 2/3 falls match and takes away the "obvious 3rd fall" that plagues the 2/3 falls match.

The only drawback is that it will take a LONG LONG TIME. (Plus, WWE would most likely have it repeat itself, ie: A pins B, then B pins A, A makes B tap out, and so on.)

Yeah, sort of like a 3 Stages of Hell Match, but with each wrestler needing to pass each match type. Benoit and Jericho could have a great version of that match one day. It would take about 45 minutes (minimum) to do, but it would certainly be worth it if they put a good story and good wrestlers into the match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've been thinking and I've come up with some more stuff. I know LC said to stay away from cages, but I've been meditating on it for a while, and these have come to me:

1) This idea uses a different style of ring (most of my new ones do). Anyway, the ring is a lot like a frame. The ring has a perimeter of 160ft (40 each side), but only goes in 10ft. This leaves a space of 20ft by 20ft in the center (the size of a normal ring). From there you have several match types. You can have a structure in the middle (a dome or a tower). You can have a cage, you can have a metal floor (this would work well with the cage). You can have it under elimination rules, or have it first-fall to a finish or have the title hanging somewhere. You can have some kind of Lion's Den in the middle, or practically anything. I can even see something like an Ultimate X Match with ropes heading over into the center of the ring with a title in the center.

Basically just funny shaped rings could make for some interesting matches. Basically apply any match type to them.

2) I call this a "Scramble Match" even though I think the name may already be in use. Basically have anywhere from three to six cages set up leading over to the ring. The title is suspended in the last cage (in the normal ring), where there is a ladder. The first man to climb over all the cages and take the belt using the ladder wins the title.

3) Some kind of Tunnel Match. From the entrance way have one structure that leads into a giant one around the ring (like a Hell in a Cell). Have it under elimination rules.

4) Have arches that go over the ring, and have it a lot liek the WWE's answer to Ultimate X (although someone said a btter idea earlier in the thread).

5) The Spider's Web. Have a structure with holes in it suspended above the ring. On it is a build in ladder which can be used to climb up tot he third level of the match, and take the suspended belt. Good for cruiserweights.

6) Have three Steel Cages set up side by side. Maybe have chambers on the outside ones. Anyway, have them roofed-in and maybe have four in each ring/cell. You can be eliminated via pinfall or submission. The surviving man in each of the outside cages then enter the middle cage and do battle there, with the winner walking away with the title.

An alternative is to have the firts guy to escape into the cage from each side faces off in another cage match for the win.