RAW January 17th 2005

[Joe Kerr]

ITS FINALLY HERE>>>>>BENOIT VS JERICHO...




Now to the thread

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With New Year’s Revolution behind them and the 2005 Royal Rumble on the immediate horizon, it looks like all hell is about to break loose for the Superstars of RAW. Can Triple H hold Evolution together, or has the animal Batista had all he can take? Will RAW General Manager Eric Bischoff reveal exactly when and where Randy Orton will get his long-awaited title shot against "The Game?"

In the spirit of competition, Chris Benoit will battle Chris Jericho in a blockbuster match. Both Superstars are ailing from the damage done in the Elimination Chamber, and both are submission specialists. Will it be the Crippler Crossface or the Walls of Jericho ruling RAW this coming Monday night?

On the heels of last week’s brutal beating at the hands of the maniacal Gene Snitsky, Kane will get another shot at payback on RAW, this time in a No Holds Barred Match. But what is Kane's condition? It's impossible to predict what will happen when these two 300-plus pound monsters go head-to-head again.

Rumble qualifying matchups are sure to continue, as the 30-man field starts to take shape. Which Superstars will find themselves with a golden opportunity to go the distance on Jan. 30 live on pay-per-view, and emerge with a Heavyweight title shot at WrestleMania 21?

After the unholy conflagration between Edge and Shawn Michaels that ripped through the arena last week, it will be interesting, to say the least, to see what Edge has to say for himself this week — as well as how HBK plans to deal with a man who has absolutely no respect for anything he has accomplished in his glorious 16-year WWE career.

Muhammad Hassan is certainly not afraid to express his controversial opinions regarding America and its citizens, and it’s a safe bet we will once again be subjected to his inflammatory rhetoric. Tonight, he will join Chris Jericho on the Highlight Reel. The question is: Can anyone shut his mouth for him?


For the answers to all these questions and more, tune in to RAW Monday night at 9/8 CT, only on SpikeTV!

[V]

:(

it's a 25 min drive from my house and i wont be there

:'(

[DMI]

Mayo is going to be there :love:

[Joe Kerr]

Ive tried to access the RAW page from 2 differnt comps now...is anyone else having the same problem of there site not coming up.

[JT]

Remember guys, watch the front row for 15 guys carrying weapons.

[RemyRed]

Gene Snitsky vs Kane is sure to be a 5 star classic

[Shadow]

Gene Snitsky vs Kane is sure to be a 5 star classic

Your definition of a 5 star classic is way different than mine apperently.

[Head]

As is his definition of a joke.

[Gouda]

"We want Christian! We want Christian!"

[Marc the Smark]

I feel pretty good about the show tonight.... should be a good one.

[VJW]

:(

it's a 25 min drive from my house and i wont be there

:'(

I felt the same way when my friend from school got to go to a show that was also pretty close by my town. Idiot wouldn't stop showing off the next day. :rant:

[Shadow]

As is his definition of a joke.

Blah blah blah

[Scarface]

Im staying up to watch this. Probably gonna be crap. Here's hoping its not.

[Gone Mad]

Hell, I'm taping this just in case. JERICHO V. SENATOR ROBOTO! How is HHH going to screw over this main event?

And hello, everybody!

[Shadow]

Starting a RAW off with the Highlight Reel is always a good thing.

[Gone Mad]

**********WELCOME TO RAW TO JERICHO! **************

[SuperSlim]

Jericho is in and Muhammad and company is now in there.

[Shadow]

Time for some America bashing in Canada.

[V]

lol.. using jericho to get canadian heat for hassan

[Joe Kerr]

Fixed the intro to the thread

[V]

I :heart: Jericho

[Shadow]

Jericho...is ratings. Just had to say it.

[Loose Cannon]

Yep Gohan said what I was just going to say. The only person who could of gotten heat on Haasan and they used him :lol:

[Shadow]

....................I thought we were going to have some America bashing...not Canada bashing.

[V]

Jericho is god

[6to1]

yep he's right hassan is hitting the nail on the head tonight.

[Gone Mad]

Jericho... can you say anything more about Jericho that hasn't been said? God, this is greatness! Keep it up, living legend.

[V]

god, i LOVE Jericho.

[Shadow]

Jericho rocks. Next week, Hassan vs. Jericho.

[VJW]

AKAAAA BOOGA MOOOKA FOZZY

[Shadow]

Gee...way to fuck with the fans on Jericho vs. Benoit Vince. Also way to fuck with Benoit's heel turn.

And way to fuck with the fans hopes this man would never hold this gold again.

[Joe Kerr]

HHH Scared lol

[Loose Cannon]

HAHA, Camel Clutch fuckers.

[Gone Mad]

I hope that it stays Jericho/ Benoit tonight and not a tag match. I sure hope its not tonight.

And HHH insulting Canadians... what else is new?

[Shadow]

Batista isn't mad at all. He's homocidal.

[V]

Y2J :heart: :heart: :heart:

:love::love::love::love::love::love:

[Gone Mad]

******* stay in the back! there's a ... green man in the ring.. ******

[Shadow]

So I guess you guys are giving up on the Hurricane heel turn?

[Shadow]

WHAT THE FUCK!?

[JT]

3:16

[Gone Mad]

"BAWGAWD STONE COLD STONE COLD STONE COLD!!! STUNNER1!!! HE'S BACK!! BBQ SAUCE!"

... cool.

[Shadow]

Thanks for the time check but is Stone Cold coming back?

[JT]

So I guess you guys are giving up on the Hurricane <s>heel turn?</s>

Well, at least the WWE is.

[Joe Kerr]

Im assuming he is announcing his return.......why else would the WWE advertise his press conference

[JT]

I'm think it's only for a one time return to Wrestlemania.

[Gone Mad]

It was mentioned somewhere that Stone Cold will make an appearance at WM21, along with the other usual suspects.

And yeah, I know I have given up the Hurricane heel turn.

[V]

orton gonna mention how he won the title in toronto :love:

[Rain Man]

Randy is a fucking legend already

[.44 Magdalene]

I'm just not feeling ya tonight, Randy. :nono:

[Gone Mad]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Well here goes your push! IT'S HHH! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Deceit]

ROFL @ THE "TURN ORTON HEEL" SIGN IN THE FRONT ROW!!

[Rain Man]

lol Canada is Bizarro Land

[Loose Cannon]

lol Canada is Bizarro Land

why? what happened?

[Rain Man]

fucking Orton is so money on the mic

[blueskies]

Triple H didn't get to name Bret hart :P

[V]

lol "jack off kid"

[McLegend]

why? what happened?
Orton gets booed and HHH got a big pop. Thats what happened.

[Loose Cannon]

LOL. Canadians love the heels. :yes:

[6to1]

canada cheers trips, yep bizarro land

[MVP]

WOW HHH actually mentioned Jericho in his laundry list of people he's "beaten".

[V]

orton got a huge pop when he entered...

there were a few boos but the cheers were dominant

[Gone Mad]

It's Bizarro Land, according to JR and King, because of the reactions from the crowd. They are cheering for heel HHH and booing face Orton.

And man, does all this make it a better show! ** airplane spins **

[Deceit]

hahah, that same guy has "HHH FEARS DIVORCE" as a sign too

[Rain Man]

EAGLES SUCK BIG TIME

[V]

god i wish i was at raw :(

[Rain Man]

sorry bout the off topic just saw his title... Orton=Boner

[Gone Mad]

Notice no Batista helping HHH ? They are hinting HHH v. Bats so subtly, aren't they? But who is gonna face RKO at WM? I wanna know that.

Batista = ratings.. when Jericho v. Benoit is not the main event. :)

[Deceit]

rep 4 the sig and fellow eagles fans :)

[Shadow]

Bad timing Maria.

[Evil Vito]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/2005_01_17_scsa.jsp

<font color=goldenrod>^^^ Austin's press conference</font>

[Rain Man]

What the shit happened to my post? WTF?

[Shadow]

Yay for boos!

[Loose Cannon]

Eagles Suck Big Time LOL. Who did that?

[McLegend]

HHH & Batista=ratings

HBK in Canada YESSSSSSSSS

[V]

LOL @ TORONTO

[Deceit]

LOL "APPARENTLY THEY HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN" aahahahah

[V]

yeah you really showed how sorry you were when you told canada to get out of florida last week

[Rain Man]

RDD are you behind this?

[Gone Mad]

Canada LOVES the Heartbreak Kid. [/sarcasm]

Oh man, talk about one to move on! You get it, HBK, now you move on too. Maybe that is why he bores me so much now.

[MVP]

ABSOLUTELY NO NEED to mention HBK beating Bret for the WWE Title. :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

RDD are you behind this?

^^SWERVED :lol:

[Gone Mad]

**** POPS AT THE MENTION OF THE CAPTAIN OF THE CHRISTIAN COALITION, CAPTAIN CHARISMA!! ****

[Rain Man]

FUCK IM MISSING 24

[McLegend]

Bischoff=gold

And

HBK in Canada=Heel HBk for the night which in return is great. I will never get tired of hearing the you screwed Bret chant, becuase it's hilarious.

WWE should always be in Canada

[Shadow]

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Charisma Squad!

[Gone Mad]

********* PEEPS UNITE!! IT'S THE HOMETOWN HERO, CAPTAIN CHARISMA!!! *******

[V]

imagine seing this even in america

CHRISTIAN DESERVES A FUCKING MAIN EVENT SPOT

[Shadow]

imagine seing this even in america

CHRISTIAN DESERVES A FUCKING MAIN EVENT SPOT

You know it, I know it. Does Vince know it? Yes. Does he care? Hell no.

[MVP]

God I love it when RAW is in Canada. :love:

[Gone Mad]

HBK in Canada = Enemy Number 1.

Go, Capt. Charisma!!!

[Hired Hitman]

$10 - CHRISTIAN TO WIN!

[V]

Heartbroke Joke :cool:

[Gone Mad]

Wait... I suddenly got bored all of a sudden... oh, that's right! eDge is now in the scene. That's why!

... oh, and if you haven't read my title yet, eDGE sucks!

[Marc the Smark]

I LOVE CHRISTIAN :D

[Joe Kerr]

HBK should have a titantron for when he's in Canada of him Beating Bret.



On a side note im restoring my laptop thats why the lack of posting tonight.

[Shadow]

But Edge just plain rocks. I'm digging the insane...GOD DAMN IT!

Yet another thing that the WWE has stolen from me.

[McLegend]

I LOVE CHRISTIAN......

But will these Canadian fans EVER get over it?!?!?!?

IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!
I hope they never do, because every time it makes good TV.

[V]

you're kidding me right

[Shadow]

Ok...Next Week, Edge vs. HBK

[Gone Mad]

:( for the Capt.'s loss.

But a big :) for the spear on HeartBreak.

[Hired Hitman]

I'm on that raw interactive thing... not too bad :D

they ahte soemthing about biggest threat to canada's pride it had two hockey teams, celine dion & hbk

hbk got 51% of the votes :o

[Boondock Saint]

Sweet pop for Batistaa

[Shadow]

Flair looks so happy. Didn't he?

[Shadow]

Did Flair's Puppy die or something?

[Splaya]

Ok 24 is over (it was sweet tonight, gonna be crazy as shit next week) but does Viscera get fatter every week :shifty:


Also, when Batista does the Spinebuster, I'm going to cream my pants.

[Gone Mad]

This is just a taste of what a face Batista pop can be. And WWE knows it now. And now there are Batista cheers!

Ugh, Big Vis is big crappy crap crap composed of shit.

[MVP]

I feel bad for Batista having to sell for Big Vis.

[Splaya]

FUCK YEAH. It was not impressive but it did the job :love:

[Splaya]

WTF :mad:

KANE AND SNITSKY THE MAIN EVENT :rant:

[Savio]

How about you cunt buckets lay off Vis.

[V]

that christian entrance is still replaying in my head

the music, the pop, his entrance (get rid of tomko)

so perfect :love:

[MVP]

:nono: WWE making Kane vs. Snitsky the main event instead of Jericho vs. Benoit.

Do the bookers have ANY grasp of match quality and crowd reaction?

[Gone Mad]

THE KING OF THE WORLD, THE LARGER THAN LIFE LIVING LEGEND, CHRIS JERICHO V. SENATOR ROBOTO, THE CANADIAN CRIPPLER, AND MASTER OF LEVITATION, CHRIS BENOIT!

COMING UP .. **looks at clock ** WHAT?! NEXT?! But there's an hour.. well, who cares? COMING UP NEXT, DAMN YOU!!!

[Shadow]

:nono: WWE making Kane vs. Snitsky the main event instead of Jericho vs. Benoit.

Do the bookers have ANY grasp of match quality and crowd reaction?

Obviouslly they don't.

[Savio]

Nah Jericho and benoit are in the main event.

[Gone Mad]

oh, shit. Forgot about Kane/ Baby Killer. 10 min. match then, damn it to hell!!! Stupid Snitsky!

[AJHayes]

Did anyone else get excited about Shawn Michaels getting booed? It was one of the greatest things I've seen in the past few months.

I am so totally looking to be a member of the Xtian Coalition.

[Loose Cannon]

Holy shit, I can't believe they just booked Batista like that. What the fuck is wrong with them. Why he is selling and getting no offense against a jobber. BULLSHIT. This is EXACTLY EXACTLY what is wrong with the WWE. That's exactly what you don't do to a guy who's about to face HHH at Mania. He should have squashed VIS in 6 seconds. UN FUCKING BELIEVABLE

[Shadow]

Wow...HHH calling Batista selfish.

Hey Pot...is the Kettle Black?

[Boondock Saint]

lol @ HHH

[AJHayes]

WTF!?!? Whos in the main event?

[Savio]

yeah this is the last match.

[Marcyo]

i hate benoit's pants. ugly yellow.

[V]

JERICHO

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[Splaya]

Jericho vs Benoit spoiler I know the end



Hassan comes out, hits Jericho. Benoit pins Jericho not knowing that Hassan took him out, or maybe a camera angle next week will reveal that Benoit did see Hassan hit Jericho and still decided to beat him. Either way, the Benoit heel turn begins now.

[MVP]

Before RAW I was thinking what a great idea it is to end RAW with Jericho vs. Benoit for all the obvious reasons, but of course RAW's esteemed booking team feels that Kane vs. Snitsky part 3 will draw just as well as long as a "No Holds Barred" stipulation is slapped on.

[Splaya]

yeah this is the last match.
Really, Paul. Tell me who won the Kane/Snitsky match ???

[Shadow]

That was some great appluse. This is going to be a great technical match-up.

[Savio]

Benoits vs Y2J will be boring though. Put a cage around them make it exciting then I'd want to watch.

[Splaya]

Before RAW I was thinking what a great idea it is to end RAW with Jericho vs. Benoit for all the obvious reasons, but of course RAW's esteemed booking team feels that Kane vs. Snitsky part 3 will draw just as well as long as a "No Holds Barred" stipulation is slapped on.
I agree Mike, but who is coming back tonight to Interfere??? That's my question.

[Gone Mad]

********* BOWS TO BOTH Y2J AND THE CRIPPLER! ***********

...stupid, slow computer. Couldn't make it in time for the intro.

[Savio]

Really, Paul. Tell me who won the Kane/Snitsky match ???There not going to have it (I don't think he knew I was joking)

[Shadow]

Thanks for giving us the state of the WWE JR. Really. I knew it was a car wreck and all but did you have to tell us the obvious?

[McLegend]

I would like to see an oldschool Liontamer tonight.

[Shadow]

I would like to see an oldschool Liontamer tonight.

Never happen.

[MVP]

I agree Mike, but who is coming back tonight to Interfere??? That's my question.
Must be Percy Pringle. He's gonna come out, swerve the fans by attacking his son, and side with the guy responsible for the miscarriage of his grandchild. OH THE IRONY, I BET THE RATINGS WILL BE HUGE.

[Splaya]

HOLY SHIT

[AJHayes]

Must be Percy Pringle. He's gonna come out, swerve the fans by attacking his son, and side with the guy responsible for the miscarriage of his grandchild. OH THE IRONY, I BET THE RATINGS WILL BE HUGE.

Thats it, who let Russo in here?

[Splaya]

Must be Percy Pringle. He's gonna come out, swerve the fans by attacking his son, and side with the guy responsible for the miscarriage of his grandchild. OH THE IRONY, I BET THE RATINGS WILL BE HUGE.

:shifty:

[Gone Mad]

2 !

Nice match up so far.

[Shadow]

Thats it, who let Russo in here?

Uh....Matt Storm?

Also...there are easier ways to do a superplex.

[MVP]

Thats it, who let Russo in here?
Rep for you

[Splaya]

german suplex to the outside :eek:

[AJHayes]

WOO HOO!!! My first rep!

And now, for the benefit of those with flash photography... My first 5 second pose!!! I call this one "The Action Pose."

[MVP]

NICE

[Shadow]

Jericho won? Heel turn!

[Splaya]

JERICHO WON :eek:

:love:

[Deceit]

great f'n match

[JT]

Do not place the Sharpshooter on a man trained by the moves creator. :cool:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>JERICHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO</font>

[V]

JERICHO

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[McLegend]

I enjoyed that match.

[AJHayes]

Yay! We get to see the Lita Preggers Story....AGAIN.

[Shadow]

BTW....does anyone know how a sprained knee goes to a torn ACL?

[Marcyo]

hey splaya... nice spoiler

[Gone Mad]

DAMN! Stay in the back, Jericho. There's a Benoit heel turn coming thru... Nice match, but not 5 star. But I will tell you which match will be 5 star:

Kane v. Snitsky, NO HOLDS BARRED!

..... :shifty: ......IT WASN'T MY FAULT!!

[Savio]

:| The match was ok.

[JT]

You know, I see the makings of a Kane & Taker vs. Snitski & Hedenrich at Wrestlemania.

[Savio]

Thanks for giving us the state of the WWE JR. Really. I knew it was a car wreck and all but did you have to tell us the obvious?What I missed it.

[MVP]

How to Book a Pro Wrestling Event

LAW #1: No Holds Barred matches draw more than Technical matches.

[Marcyo]

i thought about the same thing. Long and Bischoff meeting and making the match...

[Splaya]

A 15 minute no holds barred match. I don't think so. Someone has to be coming back tonight. It would be so sweet if Snitsky destroyed Kane and then the lights went out and the gong was heard.


I'm just a fan of the gong :shifty:

[Marcyo]

same here

[AJHayes]

How to Book a Pro Wrestling Event

LAW #1: No Holds Barred matches draw more than Technical matches.

Thats a rep.

[Shadow]

I think we're all fans of the gong.

[MVP]

LAW #2: All workers must sell for anyone over 500 pounds, regardless of their wrestling ability.

[Marcyo]

thats for sure.

[Shadow]

Oooooh...Chris Masters. I'm liking this guy a hell of a lot.

[Gone Mad]

BTW it is obvious by now that there will be Kane/Taker v. Snitsky/Heiden at WM. Plus I called it like 2 or 3 months ago. But let the seeds of this begin tonight.

[The CyNick]

Holy shit, I can't believe they just booked Batista like that. What the fuck is wrong with them. Why he is selling and getting no offense against a jobber. BULLSHIT. This is EXACTLY EXACTLY what is wrong with the WWE. That's exactly what you don't do to a guy who's about to face HHH at Mania. He should have squashed VIS in 6 seconds. UN FUCKING BELIEVABLE

thought the exact same thing.

Batista got a huge pop, he should have just fought some mid card guy he could completely kill to get over his power.

But they had to do the "he picked up Vis 2 feet".

Very stupid.

[Shadow]

GO SMACKDOWN! GIVE US BETTER MATCHES THAN RAW! SHOW US YOU'RE NOT CRAP!

[RemyRed]

you guys look way too much into insignificant things.

[Splaya]

It's 1051 correct?

[The CyNick]

Toronto girls are hot!

[Boondock Saint]

Well JR said the winner of the rumble gets to pick his champion to face at Mania. So I guess they're still "allowing" that option.

[Shadow]

Oh just lose the god damn shirt. You're almost half naked as is.

[Splaya]

They should really turn Trish face :)

[The CyNick]

She's Bret Hart!

[AJHayes]

HA HA!! U.S. A-Holes!

[Shadow]

Trish...you're botching pointing at the locker room sweetie.

[Shadow]

YES! KANE IS BACK! YES YES YES YES YES!

[Splaya]

Nevermind, Trish is great.


HOLY SHIT AT KANE



HOLY MOTHER OF SHIT THAT IS THE FIRST TIME IN MONTHS THAT SOMETHING HAS SENT CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE


HOLY SHIT.

[Gone Mad]

holy jeBus! He muderlized Trish!!! HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, THAT WAS KANE!!!

[JT]

Ref: Umm, Kane, why are you leaving? You still have a match...come on back, well have the slut sweeped up in a second.

[Joe Kerr]

Beautiful Chokeslam

[Shadow]

Finnally! Looks like someone got their gimmiack back.

[Loose Cannon]

EXCLLENT SEGMENT RIGHT THERE. Trish is an awesome heel. She can really get under your skin.

[JT]

I don't know. I might be crazy, but I was doing the whole angel/devil consence thing with my hands on Kanes shoulder, and when I had them agree to attack Trish, Kane smiled.

[Splaya]

LC, what about Kane?

[Gone Mad]

***** IT WASN'T HIS FAULT, DAMN U! IT'S SNITSKY! ******

[Splaya]

HAHA

*Music comes in IT WASN'T MY FAULT. Music Continues*

Best entrance ever.

[RemyRed]

LET'S GO SNITSKY!!!!! LET'S GO SNITSKY!!!!!

[Batsu]

I love Trish, but damn, that was the true Chokeslam From Hell.

[AJHayes]

That was quite a chokeslam.

And how about that pop when Snitsky came down!? Wow, does he have some serious heat with the fans. This could be the official "Nobody gives a fuck" match of the year.

[Splaya]

Ok, who is coming back tonight? Or more or less, interferreing?

[Shadow]

THEY'RE DOING THE WAVE!

[Gone Mad]

lol at fans doing the wave !!!

[Splaya]

Crowd's bored, they are doing the wave, Mayo's probably leading it :lol:

[JT]

Oh my, a waitbelt!

That will make even an ECW wrestler cringe. :(

[JT]

Oh my, a weight belt!

That will make even an ECW wrestler cringe. :(

[I-Hate-You]

THE WAVE!!!!

[Splaya]

Matt Hardy will interfere

[The CyNick]

GO LEAFS GO

hahaha

I love it

[Shadow]

Kane sat up....yeah. He's back.

[Splaya]

There's supposed to be a shifty there

[Splaya]

Ok, someone's going off the stage

[JT]

Matt Hardy will interfere

I think he's out for a year, isn't he?

[JT]

Bye bye :)

[AJHayes]

Fucking sweet

[Splaya]

HOLY MOTHER OF SHIT

[Shadow]

DO IT KANE!

YES! WELCOME TO HELL!

[RemyRed]

shit

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</font>

[Splaya]

KANE'S BACK

[Gone Mad]

Damn.. nobody's moving . Wow, what a fall.

[Splaya]

LOL SNITSKY BOTCHED THE DO NOT MOVE PART.

[JT]

Wow...that ending sucked.

[RemyRed]

That was bullshit. Oh well, time for Seinfeld.

[Deceit]

lol they caught snitsky saying something to kane right after they fell

[Shadow]

EVS is writing for the WWE? What the hell?

Inside Efed joke. Ignore me. Now to check who gave me rep this night.

[asphyXy]

Snitsky was smiling and talking to Kane. Good job.

[Loose Cannon]

YOU HEARD THE "BATISTA" CHANTS? YEAH, Toronto Fans Rule

And Snitsky got caught talking :lol:

[Gone Mad]

HAHA I'm looking back at the tape and it looks like Snit asked Kane what time it was, because after Snit talked to Kane, you see Kane's hand go up to Snit's face.

[darkpower]

wtf was this commentating tonight?

PLEASE replace JR and King? Why does no one believe me when I say they are old, stale, and no one gives a fuck about them anymore?

[JT]

I liked how the first aid squad came out 10 seconds after they fell, and they didn't come out in the "OMG! They might be dead!" way but the "Is it our time to come out and put these guys on a strecher even though other wrestlers have continued matches under worst circumstances yet?" way.

[Loose Cannon]

This show had a lot of "What Not to Do In Wrestling" moments on it.

[JT]

This show had a lot of "What Not to Do In Wrestling" moments on it.

Well, just as many as TNA usually has.

[RemyRed]

It was still pretty good though.

[MVP]

Batista and HHH were the focus of RAW. You think either of them would be in a main event match? No

Jericho and Benoit are over huge in Toronto and can put on one hell of a match. You think they'd be saved for the main event? No


Instead it's Kane vs. Snitsky in a shitty match that had little build-up during the show, and prior to RAW, and ended with a blown spot into a bunch of tables that have no logical purpose for being in the spot where they were.

The match and the spot generated zero crowd reaction; while Batista, Jericho, and Benoit received the biggest pops of the night.

[Gone Mad]

Well, at least we know from the look on his face that Snitsky had a great time tonight, doing his first big fall. You can tell from how Kane sold it and how Snits sold it.

**After the fall**
Snit (smiling): Wow, that was fun. What time is it again?
Kane: Can't talk, selling. **puts arm over Snit's face for a second**
Snit: Oh, that's the time. Selling time! **closes eyes but the smile is still there** .... Can I move now?
Kane: ... damn you.

[Savio]

Sniskty: You all right?

[RemyRed]

Batista and HHH were the focus of RAW. You think either of them would be in a main event match? No

Jericho and Benoit are over huge in Toronto and can put on one hell of a match. You think they'd be saved for the main event? No


Instead it's Kane vs. Snitsky in a shitty match that had little build-up during the show, and prior to RAW, and ended with a blown spot into a bunch of tables that have no logical purpose for being in the spot where they were.

The match and the spot generated zero crowd reaction; while Batista, Jericho, and Benoit received the biggest pops of the night.
Did Christian get a good pop?

[Zen v.W.o.]

Canadian fans rule. Canadian wrestlers rule. Canada rules. God, the shows just pick up here. Although leave it to two huge turds to fuck up the ending of the show.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shit, I didn't check the time. Gotta get to bed. Fucking midterms tomorrow.</font> :mad: :(

[Marc the Smark]

Well, at least we know from the look on his face that Snitsky had a great time tonight, doing his first big fall. You can tell from how Kane sold it and how Snits sold it.

**After the fall**
Snit (smiling): Wow, that was fun. What time is it again?
Kane: Can't talk, selling. **puts arm over Snit's face for a second**
Snit: Oh, that's the time. Selling time! **closes eyes but the smile is still there** .... Can I move now?
Kane: ... damn you.

:rofl:

I thought Snitsky say to Kane, "are we on?" or "are you hurt?" or something like that. That would've made more sense at least. He asked him what time it is?!? :rofl:

[MVP]

Did Christian get a good pop?Yeah, but I didn't mention him cause he'd never get a main event spot.

[Marc the Smark]

Those of you complaining about the show tonight...... whatever. You're entitled to your opinion, but I thought it was great. Maybe it was the crowd. A hot crowd can really make a show, and they're always pumped in Canada.

[JT]

Did Christian get a good pop?

I would say he got somewhere around average, but there were quite a few Christian signs in the audence.

[Marc the Smark]

I thought Christian's pop was HUGE.

And are you people SURE Snitsky asked Kane what time it was?

[Gone Mad]

I thought Snitsky say to Kane, "are we on?" or "are you hurt?" or something like that. That would've made more sense at least. He asked him what time it is?!?

No, it is most likely that he asked Kane if he was ok, but looking back at how badly Snits was acting, I wouldn't be surprised that he would have said so that's why I said that.

Now, about the show, it was great, but could have been better. All the build up for a Jericho main event led to Kane and Snit falling on well place tables. But next week has to beat this in greatness. That's all for me.

[JT]

Those of you complaining about the show tonight...... whatever. You're entitled to your opinion, but I thought it was great. Maybe it was the crowd. A hot crowd can really make a show, and they're always pumped in Canada.

Well on the level of what I would call a "well executed show", I would say that this was nearly one of the worst written shows I've seen, being placed together so poorly. However, I feel it was also saved because of the audence and the good wrestling (well at least 2 matches).

[RemyRed]

Yeah, but I didn't mention him cause he'd never get a main event spot.
Now don't lose hope by saying never, just think how good the APA Bradshaw fans feel now that their time has come.

[Gouda]

I'm pretty sure Snitsky said "You all right?" and than proceeded to smile and lie there with his eyes open when they were supposed to be unconscious and hurt.

Anyways... I'm pissed off at them jobbing Christian. It's his hometown! Give him a win for once!

In other news... Jericho was GOLD. First the Highlight Reel and then a clean win over Bentoit? GOLD.

The Jericho/Bentoit match was pretty good too. I didn't want the commercial break there.

Viscera just looks plain funny. It was correct to have Batista sell him because Viscera is basically a big man who always loses to make people look impressive. If you don't show that he has power than no one will care.

Other than Jericho/Bentoit it was a pretty bad show.

Oh yeah, also screw TSN for censoring Kane's chokeslam on Trish.

[Heyman]

DISCUSSION - Could Christian ever become a success as a FACE?



Does anyone here think the Christian could be successful as a face?

-His current music seems somewhat "face-ish" IMO.
-He seems to have 'hit a wall' of sorts as a heel (although he's still entertaining IMO).
-The 'CLB' and "Let's go Christian" chants could be decent.
-Christian has good enough mic skills.


Hell - if the WWE could get the fans to cheer Regal, then I guess anything is possible. :p

The only problem I see with Christian, is that the fans might 'love to hate' him a little too much (i.e. sort of like Angle).

[Heyman]

Canadian fans rule. Canadian wrestlers rule. Canada rules. God, the shows just pick up here. Although leave it to two huge turds to fuck up the ending of the show.

Amen to that.

Good ol' Canada. :cool:

I'm glad to be back home in the greatest country in the world. :cool:


All in all, I actually liked the show. It wasn't their best, but it wasn't that bad either (IMO).

Good god us Canadian fans rule.


I'm a bit disappointed that Benoit jobbed cleanly to Jericho. It's great for Jericho, but are the WWE ever gonna push him? If not - then this match makes Benoit look bad more than it makes Jericho look good.


Nonetheless - I was entertained.

Interesting fan reactions all night.

The fans made the show fun for me. :D

[Marc the Smark]

The fans made the show fun for me. :D

And for me, watching it at home in the states. I soooo wanna move to Canada now. You think they'd welcome me Heyman? :shifty:

[Heyman]

You think they'd welcome me Heyman? :shifty:


As long as you show hatred towards HBK (while accepting Chris Jericho and Bret Hart as gods), you will be loved up here. :D.

[Marc the Smark]

As long as you show hatred towards HBK (while accepting Chris Jericho and Bret Hart as gods), you will be loved up here. :D.

Who's more over up there - Jericho or Benoit?

[RGWhat316]

That was an interesting RAW. And love them or hate them, the Canadian crowds usually put on a show. And for all the Canadians on the board who like Muhammed because he usually tells the truth, well he spoke the truth again tonight, and this time you got the brunt of it. And HBK rules.

Trish cemented her heel-ness. She was a bitch for the USAholes line. So Kane ruled with that chokeslam. Jericho was the man again.

Fairly interesting comments by HHH for not wanting Batista to be selfish. Damn Batista should've killed him right there. The spinebuster was impressive on Viscera, but Vis got too much offense in.

Kane/Snitsky was decent. And the table spot would've been better if Snitsky was yakking. But good RAW.

[Heyman]

LOL. Canadians love the heels. :yes:


:shifty: :D



In all seriousness, WWE should do more international events. Having more fans in attendance just creates a completely different atmosphere.

The show tonight was "average", but the fans made it awesome. :cool: