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John la Rock
01-23-2005, 10:37 PM
So who's winning the 2005 Superbowl in Jacksonville?

My pick is the Eagles because of TO's return

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-23-2005, 10:38 PM
PATS

MoRcHeEbA
01-23-2005, 10:39 PM
gonna have to take the Pats

AareDub
01-23-2005, 10:42 PM
IF T.O. returns it will be premature and he will get injured even worse. Having said that, I think they'll let him play.

Oh yea, Pats will win unfortunately.

MVP
01-23-2005, 10:45 PM
If the Pats stop as many passes as they did today they'll waste the Eagles.

The Miz
01-23-2005, 10:45 PM
Don't really see why anyone outside of Philly would pick the Eagles

Buzzkill
01-23-2005, 11:08 PM
Pats....unfortunately

Evil Vito
01-23-2005, 11:18 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Pats

I generally like seeing different teams win the super bowl if it doesn't involve the Giants, but not if that different team has to be the fucking Eagles.</font> :mad:

OssMan
01-23-2005, 11:28 PM
The patriots, i hate them both, not even gonna watch it

#1-norm-fan
01-23-2005, 11:39 PM
I am ashamed as an NFL fan that the biggest/most watched event in television, the Super Bowl, will showcase New England and Philly. It's like two heels facing off in the main event at WrestleMania.

That being said, New England is unbeatable right now.

McLegend
01-23-2005, 11:39 PM
I'm form Philly but I don't see them beating the PATS :'(. O well at least they got there.

Innovator
01-23-2005, 11:47 PM
I am ashamed as an NFL fan that the biggest/most watched event in television, the Super Bowl, will showcase New England and Philly. It's like two heels facing off in the main event at WrestleMania.

That being said, New England is unbeatable right now.
It'd be awesome if the New York Giants jumped the Eagles in the back and took their spot.

el fregadero
01-23-2005, 11:52 PM
I pick New England, but I think I will root for Philly because if I squint I could mistake them for the Jaguars.

The Answer
01-23-2005, 11:55 PM
Philly!!!!.And im not from Philidelphia

BCWWF
01-24-2005, 12:05 AM
I chose Pats, but I don't think its as one sided as people are making it out to be

el fregadero
01-24-2005, 12:07 AM
I hope it's not.

Heyman
01-24-2005, 12:16 AM
I'm going with the Eagles............even if they are the inferior team (and make no mistake about, they are).


I pick the Eagles in this case, because they will have more HUNGER.

1) Eagles haven't won the SB in recent history. The Patriots have.

2) The return of Terell Owens will be EXTREMELY motivating for the Eagles.



Emotion and motivation are powerful things in sports. In my humble opinion, the Eagles will have more of this than the Pats. :y:

RP
01-24-2005, 12:47 AM
Patriots. There the best team i've seen. And i say this with the deepest strand of hatred buried in my heart for this team.

I do however think it will be a exciting game. Just like last years game. Hopefully this time it wont get overshadowed by a black tit.

DaveWadding
01-24-2005, 01:06 AM
Who cares?

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-24-2005, 01:43 AM
LOL Wow everybody hates the Patriots eh? Why? They are fucking nasty

John la Rock
01-24-2005, 01:53 AM
it's because they know how to win

el fregadero
01-24-2005, 02:05 AM
I don't really want to see anybody win it 3 out of 4 years. Don't have anything against the actual team.

Yashamaga
01-24-2005, 11:11 AM
Who cares?


20-17 ;)

VonErich Lives
01-24-2005, 11:38 AM
LOL Wow everybody hates the Patriots eh? Why? They are fucking nasty

Same way everyone hated the Bulls or in the 80's lakers/celtics.
Everyone hated the 90's Yanks,
The Red Wings, etc...

When a team is real good and can be considered a "dynasty" everyone is "sick of seeing them win", which translate to "sick of seeing a team that isn't theres".

I pick the Pats (big shock, but I think if you check the original playoff thread I had the Steelers over the Pats).

TO will be a factor if he's back, but the Pats have shut down some of the top WR's in the league. Harrison, Burres & Ward, so even TO at 100% I don't see as a huge issue.

What the Pats do, is they find someonething or someone you go to a lot and they take that away, they simpley take away your top option (or one of). In the case of the Steelers, they run 2 out of 3 first downs. If you watched on 1st down, the Pats have 7 in the box.

I think with the Eagles they're going to key on Westbrook, take away the run and him as a Rec out of the backfield. Then, if you have a TO who probably isn't 100%, Freddie "stonehands" mitcher and Todd "Aligator Arms" Pinkston...

VonErich Lives
01-24-2005, 11:43 AM
The patriots, i hate them both, not even gonna watch it


Who cares?


I'll ask this to you two, but it applies to more people.

Do you like football? I mean, are you a true football fan?

I am, I watch the Superbowl, doesn't matter who is in it, yeah I prefer the Pats to be in it, or a good story like Reggie White/Brett Favre's first ring or John Elway getting a ring, The "Greatest show on Turf" w/ a coach who came out of retirement, Gruden v. his old team. All good stories.

I just don't see how anyone can call themselves a "football fan" and not watch the superbowl, it's the biggest game of the year, one of the biggest sporting events in the world (before you soccer goons flip out, I said "one of" and if you doubt it, check the world wide TV ratings).

My least fav team of all time is the Dolphins, Recently it's been the Steelers, but either of those teams could be in the Superbowl and I'd still watch.

I dunno, maybe you two just aren't real football fans, just home-town fans.

Hardkore Kidd J
01-24-2005, 11:54 AM
I am the most uncasual football fan ever. And I still watch the superbowl. As for teams, like I said I have not been too much of a follower in Football, but from what I've seen watched with my friends The Patriots are my favorite team. Which is ironic cause I'm from New Jersey. The Pats are going to go all the way.

VonErich Lives
01-24-2005, 12:11 PM
The Patriots are my favorite team. Which is ironic cause I'm from New Jersey.

If I was from Jersey I couldn't root for the Jets or Giants, simply because they play in NJ but call themselves NY. That would drive me nuts.

Hence "New Endland Patriots" good markting move, gets MA, RI, CT, NH, VT.

Although most people in CT are Giants fans and a lot of people around here are also Giants fans, because before the Pats, the Giants were the closests team.

Y2Ant
01-24-2005, 01:36 PM
I'll watch it, because either way, it will be hilarious to see TO and the Eagles get shut down, or hilarious to see the Patriots D get molested.

The Outlaw
01-24-2005, 01:48 PM
Yeah I'll definately watch it. It's just more exciting when either one of my teams or a team has a player I really like is in it. Eagles have a Bama boy but hes a lineman so I dunno.

Used to be a big TO fan but that was in the day.

Rain Man
01-24-2005, 02:50 PM
Da' Birds

DaveWadding
01-24-2005, 03:28 PM
I'll ask this to you two, but it applies to more people.

Do you like football? I mean, are you a true football fan?

I am, I watch the Superbowl, doesn't matter who is in it, yeah I prefer the Pats to be in it, or a good story like Reggie White/Brett Favre's first ring or John Elway getting a ring, The "Greatest show on Turf" w/ a coach who came out of retirement, Gruden v. his old team. All good stories.

I just don't see how anyone can call themselves a "football fan" and not watch the superbowl, it's the biggest game of the year, one of the biggest sporting events in the world (before you soccer goons flip out, I said "one of" and if you doubt it, check the world wide TV ratings).

My least fav team of all time is the Dolphins, Recently it's been the Steelers, but either of those teams could be in the Superbowl and I'd still watch.

I dunno, maybe you two just aren't real football fans, just home-town fans.
Where the fuck did this come from? I hate both teams, but I'll watch the damn game anyways. I just don't give a shit who wins. For me, this Superbowl is like "Would you prefer a bullet to the head or a bullet to the heart?"

Heyman
01-24-2005, 07:22 PM
Dave Wadding only like the SuperBowl, because it gives him an excuse to 'pig out' and eat a shitload (I'm assuming that he'll be at a party of sorts).

OssMan
01-24-2005, 07:34 PM
I dunno, I only really started following football this year, but i hate both teams so much. like.. I hate the redskins the most, and even if they are supposed to be in a really good game I might not watch them, because I am tired of seeing them and whatnot.

I dunno. the superbowl is different. I might watch it but who knows.

WHO KNOWS

Buzzkill
01-24-2005, 08:26 PM
I've always hated the Pats, I dont really know why. I think it started when I saw Drew Bledsoe's ugly face.

Crimson
01-24-2005, 10:12 PM
I hate both teams so I won't root for anyone, i'll just hope one of them gets emberrased. Patriots ARE nasty, like it or not they'll be around the top for a while.

Mister Sinister
01-25-2005, 02:34 AM
I hate New England with a passion, mostly because I'm a fins fan...and while I think Philly is a good team, I just have that gut feeling, New England will repeat...

#1-norm-fan
01-25-2005, 02:43 AM
I've always hated the Pats, I dont really know why. I think it started when I saw Drew Bledsoe's ugly face.

WTF. Bledsoe is dreamy!

BCWWF
01-25-2005, 02:57 AM
I like both teams, but I am kind of going for the Pats because they have faught through so many injuries and their defense is just stacked with sweet players. It would be cool if they won again, I was talking to Yash earlier and we both agreed that they would be considered a dynasty with the win. One reaosn I say that is because I am confident that they would come close if not repeat next season. It would be cool to be able to say "I saw the Patriot dynasty" in 20 years, like the people who got to see the undefeated Dolphins and the Steel Curtain and stuff. So I guess go Pats!

VonErich Lives
01-25-2005, 03:30 AM
I hate New England with a passion, mostly because I'm a fins fan...and while I think Philly is a good team, I just have that gut feeling, New England will repeat...

Same reason I hate the Fins. I'm a life long pats fan and grew up in the 80's with you guys breaking out back every year (except 85). That and Dan Marino was a great QB, but it was tough to root for a guy who was always yelling at his team mates and never seemed to take any blame himself.

Did you see after the Colts/Pats game, Boomer Essiason on the postgame said something about Peyton becoming the next Dan Marino, and the look on Marinos face was priceless...

Yashamaga
01-25-2005, 10:17 AM
The thing is though that they haven't played eachother this year and Bellichick IS beatable when you face him for the 1st time. (I can't say the same when you have a rematch with him)

Gonzo
01-25-2005, 10:43 AM
Being a Giants fan I hope that the Eagles get beat bad.

No matter which way you slice it, the Patriots are extremely good and almost unbeatable. I don't care who you line up against them because they can match up against almost anyone. Even if T.O. returns it won't make a huge difference because he is coming off of a broken leg. If he does suit up it will be as a decoy because I would bet my left arm his ass isn't at 100%.

With that said, go Patriots.

VonErich Lives
01-25-2005, 06:39 PM
Loss in Miami was a rematch :)

That being said, Chad Lewis is now out... he had a big role last week, but wasn't huge during the regular season, but will still be a factor.

Gonzo
01-25-2005, 09:13 PM
L.J. Smith is better.

Rain Man
01-25-2005, 10:24 PM
L.J. Smith is better.
Very True Gonzo. They also brought in a veteran TE today, forgot the fuckers name. Also....

TO's said he is not cleared to play in the Superbowl. But in my opinion what doctor wouldn't say you aren't cleared? Of course they want to wait it out and make sure the injury is totally repaired. Because if he said he is cleared to play and then reinjures it a lawsuit will be involved and all that shit. But TO will play in the Superbowl without a doubt. I mean he is just a doctor what does he know??? :shifty:

Gonzo
01-25-2005, 10:32 PM
Something Thomason. I think T.O. will suit up but not in a real impact role, maybe one or two catches, probably a decoy role.

OssMan
01-25-2005, 10:37 PM
HASNT PLAYED IN THE NFL FOR TWO YEARS

The Outlaw
01-25-2005, 11:30 PM
LOL construction worker

SO this guy gets two weeks off work, gets paid for playing football, and could possibly get a super bowl ring.

He's gotta be living this up...

Astley316
01-26-2005, 08:12 AM
Ive wanted someone to beat the pats at every stage, of the playoffs, and they pulled it out and won, so my heart will be going for philly, but my head says the pats, i just dont see anyone beating this team right now

VonErich Lives
01-26-2005, 11:31 AM
LOL construction worker

SO this guy gets two weeks off work, gets paid for playing football, and could possibly get a super bowl ring.

He's gotta be living this up...

I think he's a foreman or something...

but, even with a loss he gets like 40K for the game.

He's friends w/ Lewis and the TE coach and I think he last played in Philly.

LJ was a better TE this year I don't think Chad is a huge loss.

I still don't think TO will play, if he does no way he's 100%, it's a broken bone, it needs time to heal.

Savio
01-26-2005, 02:18 PM
I learned that past history doesn't mean shit......But I still have to go with pats...sorry Donny.

Rain Man
01-26-2005, 02:57 PM
Yeah the TE is a foreman for this company who builds all this shit around where I live.. Lucky fuck

MoRcHeEbA
01-26-2005, 03:12 PM
WELL I BET THE EAGLES HAVE IT ALL LOCKED UP NOW. SHINE UP THE TROPHY.

Team Sheep
01-26-2005, 04:37 PM
When is it? I've been watching a bit of football on Sky recently and I might start to get into it.

Gertner
01-26-2005, 04:39 PM
Who the hell do you think? Pats 37 Eagles 14


The Pats nation will add another title. "yawn" it's almost getting too easy.

MoRcHeEbA
01-26-2005, 05:01 PM
I doubt it's gonna be that big of a blowout. I would bet like 24-14 pats

Gonzo
01-26-2005, 05:11 PM
I hope the Eagles put up some sort of a fight, so its that much sweeter when the Patriots pull it out anyways. :D

VonErich Lives
01-26-2005, 06:35 PM
so umm, rainman... Avatar bet? :D

Rain Man
01-26-2005, 08:46 PM
VEL ITS ON! And I extend it to all of you Eagle Haters including:
Gonzo
Stima34
Gertner
Outlaw
AssMan

hell fuck it the whole god damn sports forum hates the eagles so anyone else who wants in Im down

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-26-2005, 09:15 PM
How am I an Eagles hater?

And I've never done an Avatar bet, and I don't plan on doing one. VEL can work that magic haha

I cannot wait for this game, gonna be sick. I don't get why people are saying this game is gonna be weak, sure I can see getting sick of the Pats I guess, if you aren't a fan but shit, they only produced the 2 of the best Superbowls of all time.

OssMan
01-26-2005, 09:36 PM
I dont understand what the bet would be Rain Man, what if the patriots win, what avatar would i use. or everyone else for that matter/

Rain Man
01-26-2005, 09:51 PM
I dont understand what the bet would be Rain Man, what if the patriots win, what avatar would i use. or everyone else for that matter/
A nice Eagles Logo would do ASSman

OssMan
01-26-2005, 10:32 PM
what, why would I use an eagles logo if the patriots win

YOU MAKE NO SENSE RAINMAN

Gertner
01-26-2005, 11:01 PM
IT's not so much that I'm a eagle hater, as I am a Pats slappy. But you're on.

The Outlaw
01-27-2005, 02:29 AM
VEL ITS ON! And I extend it to all of you Eagle Haters including:
Gonzo
Stima34
Gertner
Outlaw
AssMan

hell fuck it the whole god damn sports forum hates the eagles so anyone else who wants in Im down
Hey no.

VonErich Lives
01-27-2005, 03:19 AM
VEL ITS ON! And I extend it to all of you Eagle Haters including:
Gonzo
Stima34
Gertner
Outlaw
AssMan

hell fuck it the whole god damn sports forum hates the eagles so anyone else who wants in Im down

Cool, logo v. logo.

Since it's the championship game, let's make it until kick off of the hall of fame game (1st pre-season game of the year).

and no changing early like a certain mod on here... *cough*trips*cough*

Rain Man
01-27-2005, 06:04 PM
Cool, logo v. logo.

Since it's the championship game, let's make it until kick off of the hall of fame game (1st pre-season game of the year).

and no changing early like a certain mod on here... *cough*trips*cough*
How bout till Training camp?