View Full Version : So I've decided to finally go ahead and go to wrestling school.
#1-norm-fan
02-08-2005, 03:25 AM
APW Boot Camp in Hayward. I sent for the pamphlet and all already. I've already started working out and preparing. I've done some research and APW Boot Camp seems to be pretty well repected. Anyone have an opinion on said Boot Camp?
Mr. Nerfect
02-08-2005, 03:56 AM
Well I'm in Australia so I can't really comment, but good luck, and I hope you make it to the big time making millions of dollars, eventually. :y:
Everyone's gotta start somewhere.
#1-norm-fan
02-08-2005, 04:12 AM
Tickets for everyone when I main event WrestleMania :D
Triple A
02-08-2005, 04:20 AM
Word.
nelioneil
02-08-2005, 04:31 AM
Can't say anything else but good luck and remember when you do main-event Wrestlemania - the TPWW community
Hired Hitman
02-08-2005, 04:36 AM
I was thinking about getting into a wrestling school, but there are none in australia, so I might be a business man in wrestling ;)
ericbisch
02-08-2005, 05:16 AM
where in australia are u located?
The Fugitive
02-08-2005, 05:23 AM
I was thinking about getting into a wrestling school, but there are none in australia, so I might be a business man in wrestling ;)
http://www.awfwrestling.com.au/school/school.htm
That's of course, if you are in the Sydney area, otherwise it's pretty useless.
Impact!
02-08-2005, 05:28 AM
theres one in melbourne as well if you need more info i'll pm me.
speaking of does anyone know if there are any in queensland, cause if there ain't i'll have to move to sydney or melbourne once i finish school, and have enough money.
The Fugitive
02-08-2005, 05:45 AM
Sorry, I can't say I know of any wrestling schools up there myself. I'll ask some people and let you know if I hear anything positive.
Dave Youell
02-08-2005, 05:54 AM
Here's some advice before you start.
Walk before you can run I've seen too many people get in the ring for the first time and think they are the muts nuts because they can do a moonsault. Learn the basics first, it's boring as hell, but it will help you in the future.
Shut up and Listen. I've seen too many kids walk into training talking about how they already know how to work because they've done it with there brother etc. At the end of the day if the trainers don't like you they won't respect you or give you a chance, be humble and take in all the advise given to you, they are trainers for a reason.
Don't expect to wrestle in a proprt match within the next year it's a slow process, but it's worth it.
If you can do those 3 things you should be fine
The Cerebral Assassin
02-08-2005, 06:26 AM
When McMahon signs you up to work for WWE, blackmail Triple H into believing you have evidence of him cheating on Steph and then work your way into her bed so you can have all the power.
Hired Hitman
02-08-2005, 08:12 AM
I'm in brisbane... :mad: :(
The Answer
02-08-2005, 08:36 AM
How much are they charging you?
Loose Cannon
02-08-2005, 10:27 AM
Looks like a pretty good school. They teach you everything.
SuperSlim
02-08-2005, 10:37 AM
good luck in your endeavor man
Volchok
02-08-2005, 07:54 PM
my Aunt talks to the Stro once in awhile he sent her autographed pictures and stuff... she said if I really wanted to get into wrestling she could probally get me into his school since there basically friends...
#1-norm-fan
02-08-2005, 08:14 PM
How much are they charging you?
$6,000 with a discount if I pay up front. If not it's a minumum of $250 a month plus intrest and such.
A friend of mine was joking around and trying to get me to go for referee or manager camp which they also offer under the assumption that there's no way a 6' 3" referee or manager can get into the business without eventually becoming a wrestler. lol. I'll go ahead and splurge and spend the extra $2,000 to get started on wrestling.
APW really seems to be really helpful with every aspect. Even post-training. I'm excited to get started.
Loose Cannon
02-08-2005, 08:20 PM
where is this school BTW?
Taker Fan
02-08-2005, 08:24 PM
Wow that's awesome man. I remember about 2 years ago you telling me you really wanted to go to wrestling school. That's great, and I wish you the best :y::cool:
Volchok
02-08-2005, 08:34 PM
Good luck i hope everything works out for ya...
The One
02-08-2005, 08:41 PM
Can't say as though I am knowledgable about APW, per-chance is there a website, or even information about who the head trainer is?
KayfabeMan
02-08-2005, 09:22 PM
If it's the same APW I am thinking of, it must be All Pro Wrestling. He'd said that it is near Hayward, which I am assuming he means CA - so it should be the same group.
They are a pretty reliable and respectable school, although they have had their share of problems and such, and Roland has come under some fire before. Nonetheless, they should be good to start with.
Loose Cannon
02-08-2005, 09:25 PM
oh, that's the school on Beyond the Mat. Didn't even realize.
John la Rock
02-08-2005, 10:06 PM
$6,000 with a discount if I pay up front. If not it's a minumum of $250 a month plus intrest and such.
A friend of mine was joking around and trying to get me to go for referee or manager camp which they also offer under the assumption that there's no way a 6' 3" referee or manager can get into the business without eventually becoming a wrestler. lol. I'll go ahead and splurge and spend the extra $2,000 to get started on wrestling.
APW really seems to be really helpful with every aspect. Even post-training. I'm excited to get started.
WOW. why are wrestling schools so expensive?
If you were to main-event Wrestlemania? who would you face and why?
Innovator
02-08-2005, 10:19 PM
Awesome man, good luck
Someday I might get my ass to wrestling school
BigDaddyCool
02-08-2005, 10:35 PM
You will never mainevent wrestlemania because I plan on becoming the top star and will hold everyone down because I'll own 20% of all the WWE outstanding vote stock.
Damn, it rules to be an accounant.
Awesome :y:
Make sure you play along when JBL approaches you in the shower.
Nowhere Man
02-09-2005, 12:10 AM
I've thought about going to one, but:
A) I'm still only 19, and want to get out of college first
B) There's no way in hell I can afford it
C) My only mode of transportation is a rusted-out Oldsmobile that's older than I am
D) I'm out of shape and a gigantic wuss
Anyways, good luck with your lessons. With any luck, once I get my degree in Broadcasting, I'll be able to call your matches.
Corkscrewed
02-09-2005, 12:27 AM
Sounds awesome! Good luck with all of that. I can't wait for the inevitable #1-wwf-fan/Dave Youell/King Jericho three way international feud. ;)
Gone Mad
02-09-2005, 12:42 AM
Good luck with wrestling school. I wish I had the guts to do that..
Gouda
02-09-2005, 12:52 AM
I would be good as a cowardly heel manager.
Innovator
02-09-2005, 12:56 AM
I've thought about going to one, but:
A) I'm still only 19, and want to get out of college first
B) There's no way in hell I can afford it
C) My only mode of transportation is a rusted-out Oldsmobile that's older than I am
D) I'm out of shape and a gigantic wuss
Anyways, good luck with your lessons. With any luck, once I get my degree in Broadcasting, I'll be able to call your matches.Same with me, once I get out of college I'm gonna look into it
Really want to try the ROH School, it'd be amazing to be trained by Punk
KayfabeMan
02-09-2005, 02:13 AM
WOW.why are wrestling schools so expensive?
Not all of them are. Most people avoid the cheaper schools because there are a slew of "cheap" schools known to fuck you over, or to be ran by a "trainer" that has no clue or has never been trained himself.
There are many great schools here in the US that aren't that expensive - all depends on whereabouts in the country that you are, and a few other things.
Generally, you can expect to at least dish out $1,500 - plus gas to travel to and from the school. Then of course you'll need the proper gear, and if you do pass the school you'll then need tights and boots and all of that. It's like anything else basically, initially it'll cost you to get in - but if you love it, it'll be worth it.
samichna
02-09-2005, 02:35 AM
awesome
Dave Youell
02-09-2005, 05:29 AM
Being in the UK is great i paid £5 everyone other weekend for 6 hours.
Sweet!
#1-norm-fan
02-09-2005, 05:54 AM
Can't say as though I am knowledgable about APW, per-chance is there a website, or even information about who the head trainer is?
http://allprowrestling.com/new_boot_camp/new_camp_index.htm
Doesn't look like it's been updated in a while but you get the idea.
It's just a bit over an hour from where I live so I'm not too worried about gas or anything.
#1-norm-fan
02-09-2005, 05:58 AM
I can't wait for the inevitable #1-wwf-fan/Dave Youell/King Jericho three way international feud. ;)
lol
Good luck to all of you i bet all of you would make verry good wrestlers :yes: .
If i get the money up and find a good school in my area we should be a tag teem :y: .
#1-norm-fan
03-10-2005, 03:13 AM
I'm having alot of doubts the past few days. Not about actually pursuing becoming a wrestler but about the school itself. Everything I've read says it's a great, dependable school. But I can't get the thought out of my head that it's biggest claim to fame after all the years it's existed is Spike Dudley.
I mean, I'd love to go on to be as talented as a Bryan Danielson but my main goal is to actually make it in WWE. But all I keep thinking is why has no APW graduate gone on to make it in WWE with the exception of Spike and Crash Holly. Why should I think that I would break out of the pack and go on to be huge? I've got all the dedication in the world and I don't plan on ever again doing anything but wrestling but I'm sure there have been dedicated guys who has gone here before. What happened to them?
Anyways, I got somewhat famous on TPWW years ago because of my knowledge of wrestling, and therefore hate asking for wrestling related advice and such but what does everyone else think about this situation?
Dave Youell
03-10-2005, 03:25 AM
I'm having alot of doubts the past few days. Not about actually pursuing becoming a wrestler but about the school itself. Everything I've read says it's a great, dependable school. But I can't get the thought out of my head that it's biggest claim to fame after all the years it's existed is Spike Dudley.
I mean, I'd love to go on to be as talented as a Bryan Danielson but my main goal is to actually make it in WWE. But all I keep thinking is why has no APW graduate gone on to make it in WWE with the exception of Spike and Crash Holly. Why should I think that I would break out of the pack and go on to be huge? I've got all the dedication in the world and I don't plan on ever again doing anything but wrestling but I'm sure there have been dedicated guys who has gone here before. What happened to them?
Anyways, I got somewhat famous on TPWW years ago because of my knowledge of wrestling, and therefore hate asking for wrestling related advice and such but what does everyone else think about this situation?
Look buddy,
I think you are going about this in all the wrong way. Forget about the WWE for now, you need to learn how to wrestle and then wrestle on lots of shows and get your name out there. It would 2-5 years minimum. If you really love wrestling, just wrestle for the enjoyment of wrestling. I treat wrestling like some would treat being in a sunday league football team, everyone there knows there not premiership standard, but they still play it every week because they love the game, if they are really good a scout could pick them up and they could go on futher, but it's unlikely.
I'm not trying to put you down here as I have no idea on what your talent capabilities are, but think how many wrestlers there are in the US alone, there are thousands still active right now and currently 1 federation for feeding the WWE, that's rubbish odds of making it.
If you love wrestling, do the training learn the basic, I know there boring as hell and all you want to do is the moves that you know you can do, but crawl before you can walk and when your ready you can go out there and get bookings yourself.
#1-norm-fan
03-10-2005, 03:53 AM
You're right. I'm just starting to freak out a little realizing I'm about to go all in and dedicate myself to this one place and it just doesn't seem to have as great of a track record as I once thought. I have an insane amount of passion for wrestling and I'm gonna enjoy every second of every step along the way but ultimately, I want to eventually become the best. I just don't want to be some guy who forked out some money, got a little training, had some skills and then was forgotten about over time and I can't help but wonder why that seems to be the norm with APW's graduates.
<font color=white>I intend to find a school to train at from round about April 2006 (when I turn 21-Inheritance!). Problem is, finding a local-ish school (I live in Wolverhampton) is a problem and I don't have much info.
When I was about 11 'til a couple of years ago, I was hellbent on going to the states and training there (better opportunities, school track records etc). I e-mailed and wrote to 5-6 schools. Whilst I got no written responses, I did recieve 2 e-mails back (1 from Sully's in Toronto and I can't remember the other. I did save the e-mails but lost them when my account was closed). Now, I pretty much realise that the only way I'm going to get to where I dream to be is by working my ass of here in the UK first.
Basically, I need all the fucking advice I can get and would really appreciate some from people who are/have been/will soon be/would like to be trained/involved in the business on a physical level etc. Thanks for reading</font>
Dave Youell
03-10-2005, 08:20 AM
<font color=white>I intend to find a school to train at from round about April 2006 (when I turn 21-Inheritance!). Problem is, finding a local-ish school (I live in Wolverhampton) is a problem and I don't have much info.
When I was about 11 'til a couple of years ago, I was hellbent on going to the states and training there (better opportunities, school track records etc). I e-mailed and wrote to 5-6 schools. Whilst I got no written responses, I did recieve 2 e-mails back (1 from Sully's in Toronto and I can't remember the other. I did save the e-mails but lost them when my account was closed). Now, I pretty much realise that the only way I'm going to get to where I dream to be is by working my ass of here in the UK first.
Basically, I need all the fucking advice I can get and would really appreciate some from people who are/have been/will soon be/would like to be trained/involved in the business on a physical level etc. Thanks for reading</font>
I can't think of any promotions that run out of the Birmingham area, let alone schools, how far are you willing to travel?
Dave Youell
03-10-2005, 08:22 AM
Infact scrap what I just said. if I were you i'd look into block booking a week at NWA Hammerlocks school, I know loads of people that trained there and they provide accomodation, I think they work in the North, but i'm not 100% where exactlly.
The FWA doing similar training weekends as well that run via portsmouth.
Because of your location I'd say your better off looking to do a few days in a row rather than one off sessions
I can't think of any promotions that run out of the Birmingham area, let alone schools, how far are you willing to travel?
<font color=white>A train ride I guess. Manchester I was thinking maybe but the constant train fares etc would add up big</font>
Infact scrap what I just said. if I were you i'd look into block booking a week at NWA Hammerlocks school, I know loads of people that trained there and they provide accomodation, I think they work in the North, but i'm not 100% where exactlly.
The FWA doing similar training weekends as well that run via portsmouth.
Because of your location I'd say your better off looking to do a few days in a row rather than one off sessions
<font color=white>Any price ideas?</font>
Dave Youell
03-11-2005, 03:28 PM
<font color=white>A train ride I guess. Manchester I was thinking maybe but the constant train fares etc would add up big</font>
Manchester has a really good school, that run on Thursdays and Sundays, don't know the prices i'm afriad, i'll try to find them for you
Dave Youell
03-11-2005, 03:37 PM
the site is futureshockwrestling.com but it's not working right now.
Absolute max i would guess £25 per session, but that would be with a guest trainer
Loose Cannon
03-11-2005, 03:44 PM
WWF Fan, I'm telling you right now, about 1 in 10,000 people may make it to the WWE out of those schools. Not saying you won't, but it's a very very very big longshot. Some guys, who some consider the greatest workers in the world, still haven't made it. It's a really tough business and you should really have a backup plan just in case you want to do something else 5 years down the line.
Dave Youell
03-11-2005, 04:01 PM
WWF Fan, I'm telling you right now, about 1 in 10,000 people may make it to the WWE out of those schools. Not saying you won't, but it's a very very very big longshot. Some guys, who some consider the greatest workers in the world, still haven't made it. It's a really tough business and you should really have a backup plan just in case you want to do something else 5 years down the line.
:y:
Like I said, treat it like a hobby
PullMyFinger
03-11-2005, 04:34 PM
Haha, speaking of Hayward, last year I lived in California...over in Fremont, and attended Cal State Hayward for a year.
The Naitch
03-11-2005, 05:05 PM
Wild Samoans Training Center in Pensacola
Supermark101
03-11-2005, 05:24 PM
Making it in wrestling is all about getting noticed. Go here (http://www.ovwrestling.com/) and get noticed Its the most direct way to the WWE. It is still VERY Difficult to make it, and it is so much cheaper. Its only $4500. $500 for the first 13 weeks. I believe it is worth the move. Im planning on going there once I finish college, next year.
#1-norm-fan
03-11-2005, 06:13 PM
My decision to go to APW Boot Camp is really influenced by it's location. I can't afford to move away right now. Obviously, if APW was considered an awful place to go for training, I wouldn't be going. Maybe waiting a while and moving near somewhere with good credentials. However, I'm constantly hearing good things about this place and it's just an hour drive... it seems like a great plan.
On a side note, I bought the first season of Tough Enough a few weeks ago and have been watching it. DAMN, it would be awesome to be trained by Al Snow. He is my favorite person ever. :love:
The Naitch
03-11-2005, 06:28 PM
post your pic so we can see if you have the look
PullMyFinger
03-11-2005, 08:12 PM
My decision to go to APW Boot Camp is really influenced by it's location. I can't afford to move away right now. Obviously, if APW was considered an awful place to go for training, I wouldn't be going. Maybe waiting a while and moving near somewhere with good credentials. However, I'm constantly hearing good things about this place and it's just an hour drive... it seems like a great plan.
On a side note, I bought the first season of Tough Enough a few weeks ago and have been watching it. DAMN, it would be awesome to be trained by Al Snow. He is my favorite person ever. :love:
Is Hayward even a place to get noticed though??? No offense man, I was in Fremont and went to Cal State Hayward...place is like a forgotten boring hole that no one knows about.
Isn't there one in like San Jose??? Well, unless if you live somewhere north or east like Concord...then yeah Hayward is understandable. I'm just saying...would you be able to get noticed there? You gotta think of that too if you're dream is to make it in WWE.
#1-norm-fan
03-12-2005, 12:34 AM
I'm going to be trained because I've heard good things about Rob Thompson and APW's training program. After training, APW will help me with marketing myself. I don't expect to get noticed by WWE straight out of training. That's just not how it works. You have to work your way up.
Nowhere Man
03-12-2005, 01:41 AM
Well, like Supermark said, if you want WWE to notice you, the best place to go would be their farm league OVW. That's not saying it's the place to go if you want to become a great wrestler, but if you want to go specifically to WWE, then it'd probably be best to go to the source.
(I plan on taking the same sort of route when striking out on my acting career; I'm gunning for the Second City in Chicago, Saturday Night Live's prime talent source)
#1-norm-fan
03-12-2005, 02:34 AM
Yeah. Only problem is I just can't afford to move/get my own place. I'm a pretty big guy so I think I could very well get noticed by WWE if I were to go to OVW but I just can't afford it. So it's either keep waiting until I can or go to APW and get my training. Once that's done, I'll see what happens.
weather vane
03-12-2005, 02:37 AM
Call yourself "Talented" Tyler Ash when you get big.
Just found this thread - Are you aware of APW's legal problems? You know a student died whilst training there right?
#1-norm-fan
04-04-2005, 03:36 PM
I heard a rumor about this some years ago...
Gimme some more info.
The trainers bullied some kid who complained about headaches and kept dropping him on his head. He died the same day. Bob Barnett knows more about it than me. Go to his board and ask him.
#1-norm-fan
04-04-2005, 03:53 PM
Jesus that's awful. Thanks.
I have to say I never really knew much about Robert Thompson. (The head trainer)
The Fugitive
04-04-2005, 04:01 PM
The trainers bullied some kid who complained about headaches and kept dropping him on his head. He died the same day. Bob Barnett knows more about it than me. Go to his board and ask him.
Yeah, I remember reading something a while back, Brian Something, they got some 7' tool to powerbomb or spinebuster him like crazy and even after he was complaining of severe headaches, they just told him to tough it out. Pretty fucking disgusting.
Don't sign anything with them either. They try and take a cut of your earnings like they "manage" you.
King Jericho
04-05-2005, 11:06 AM
Sounds awesome! Good luck with all of that. I can't wait for the inevitable #1-wwf-fan/Dave Youell/King Jericho three way international feud. ;)
:love:
King Jericho
04-05-2005, 11:09 AM
I'm actually thinking of going over to the States sometime next year, to do some Independant shows. A friend of mine, Tex Benedict, works both the U.K and U.S, and as well as the Promoter for the main guys I'm apart of over here, the CSF, both have connections.
Who knows right now, but I'll keep people posted.
Also, good luck with you're training. :y:
#1-norm-fan
04-05-2005, 03:25 PM
Don't sign anything with them either. They try and take a cut of your earnings like they "manage" you.
Roland Alexander himself called me a couple days ago and left me a message. Said he wanted to do a phone interview or something. Add that to this info I'm getting... a little desperate?
redoneja
04-05-2005, 10:55 PM
Best of luck
IMO APW is the best school on the west coast, RoH on the East, and TWA was the best in the south-southwest but I lost track of it.
Roland Alexander himself called me a couple days ago and left me a message. Said he wanted to do a phone interview or something. Add that to this info I'm getting... a little desperate?
That big fat tub of goo would eat his own gran's legs for money. How can someone in his physical condition teach wrestling? Anyway, he makes his "students" sign a "contract" saying he gets a percentage of future earnings. He tells people he never takes up that option. I know for a fact he did. It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on though so guys simply stopped paying him.
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