Official No Way Out thread

[Joe Kerr]

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[Innovator]

Yet another Raddical PPV thread

[Gouda]

*Gouda marks out for Spike's goatee*

[The Answer]

Hey Radd's back :y: . I won't be watching this and the only match I see worth watching is the Angle/Cena match but since I know Cena is going to go over meh....

[Kane Knight]

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Welcome to "No Way Out In a Nutshell," By Kane Knight.

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Vince: Well, it's been a lot of work, but I think we've found someone who sucks as badly as you, JBL.

JBL: Really? Did Zack Gowen lose his OTHER leg?

Vince: No, it's time for the Big Show to main event again.

JBL: Wow, he really does suck. Won't this make for a weaker PPV? Shouldn't I be beating someone with talent so that people will tune in, and I will be seen as greatness?

Vince: Don't worry, we've still got a trick up our sleeves...Picture this...a CAGE match! But not just ANY cage...A Barbed Wire Match!

JBL: *furiously masturbating to own reflection*

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Undertaker: Uh oh. A big man with marginal talent. That means he outclasses me by a hundred miles. Time to bury him.

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Cena: Hey Eddie, I'll keep Angle distracted, you grab his medals and wallet.

Eddie: You got it, esse vato.

Cena: Meanwhile, I'll be memorising the new freestyle Vince wrote for me. Wait, that doesn't even RHYME with "poopy."

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The Bashams: Hi, we're talented, but given no real personality. Nobody gives a fuck about us, even with our halfassed gimmick.

Eddie and RMJ: Hi, we should be on top of our respective divisions, but the only way we can get PPV time is as a tag team. Even then, Vince keeps saying it's a "favor to the affirmative action folks."

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Hi, you don't know us. Believe it or not, we wrestle quite often, between interruption after interruption. You've probably seen us, but we're forgotten faster than the midgets. Tonight will be our only high profile match with a chance of no T&A, so please pay attention. Save the cruiserweights!

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Divas: We're just here to distract you while the PPV companies suck money out of your wallet. You don't even get the pleasure common to porn, but you're sure to feel screwed in the end.

[46 & 2]

Is anybody even ordering this crap?

Diva Contest on PPV = money in the bank!

And what about Booker T vs Heidenreich? Booker thought Heidenreich was laughing at him a few days ago - now that's buildup for a PPV match!

[Kane Knight]

I bet a ton of morons WILL order it.

[Cactus Sid]

I'm ordering it

Wait....no I'm not....ITS FREE

[Cactus Sid]

Also, I love this Pulp Fiction advert

[Kane Knight]

Also, I love this Pulp Fiction advert
Do you know what they call Wresatlemania in France?

[Cactus Sid]

:D

[Cactus Sid]

What network is Heat on?

[Kane Knight]

TNN.

[Kane Knight]

Spike. Hello, 1980.

[crash99]

I don't know, I'm not saying its going to be a great show or anything, but i don't think its going to be as bad as some may think. I think a few of the matches have a chance to be good to great. But I guess we'll see if that happens.

[Kane Knight]

I don't know, I'm not saying its going to be a great show or anything, but i don't think its going to be as bad as some may think. I think a few of the matches have a chance to be good to great. But I guess we'll see if that happens.
You're right, it COULD be great, but that's clearly a longshot.

[Danny Electric]

What network is Heat on?

Lucky git, I don't have Sky Sports.

[Loose Cannon]

Spike looks like an evil elf. I like it :yes:

[Kane Knight]

Spike looks like an evil elf. I like it :yes:
Weighing in at 40 lbs, coming from Kieblerville...

[PullMyFinger]

Is anybody even ordering this crap?

Diva Contest on PPV = money in the bank!

And what about Booker T vs Heidenreich? Booker thought Heidenreich was laughing at him a few days ago - now that's buildup for a PPV match!
I agree. That's the dumbest shit ever.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

note that eddie won the title at NWO last year. this year hes curtain jerking

[Innovator]

don't worry i'm sure the WWE will have Benoit open up Wrestlemania

[KingofOldSchool]

That was a shocker.

[Kane Knight]

don't worry i'm sure the WWE will have Benoit open up Wrestlemania
Next year, Orton will be on Heat.

[Kane Knight]

So we're 30 minutes in, anything happened?

[Danny Electric]

New tag champs.

[Cactus Sid]

Lucky git, I don't have Sky Sports.

:(

The benefits of not being a student for at least another 6 months

[Kane Knight]

Awesome. Nothing says "Main event status" like "Tag team champs at the beginning of show" GO EDDIE!

[Innovator]

Nothing says "Main event status" like "<s>Tag team champs at the beginning of show</s> not drawing as champion, GO JBL"

[Kane Knight]

That too, I was just thinking of Eddie.

[Danny Electric]

:(

The benefits of not being a student for at least another 6 months

Bastard.
:)
I've got NTL, just don't get the movie and sports channels.

[Cactus Sid]

Bastard.
:)
I've got NTL, just don't get the movie and sports channels.

You get other channels though ;)

[Cactus Sid]

What's suprised me about this match is how well Heidenreich has sold everything

[Cactus Sid]

Didn't they use the exact same chair DQ finish with Heidenreich a couple of months ago?

[Danny Electric]

You get other channels though ;)

I know. Sucks cos all I watch when I'm back home is the Sport Channels.
At least I get the music channels.

[Corkscrewed]

Bashams lose? Tipsters not off to a good start. :(

[Gouda]

Booyah. Booker won by DQ. Points for The Cheese!

Heidy/Gene... both get themselves disqualified on a regular basis.

[Cactus Sid]

I'm waiting for a tag in this elimination match, just to confuse the rules further

[Cactus Sid]

FUNAKI ELIMINATED

New Cruiserweight Champion Tonight

Don't wanna count my chickens, but.....Paul London????? Are they finally gonna give him the belt?

[Cactus Sid]

Akio, Chavo and London left

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

london looks like the warrior with those tasstles lol. i think it mite be his time

[Cactus Sid]

Akio eliminated for not meeting 10 count, I haven't seen that in a non-last man standing match in years.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

akio eliminated for not making it after 10? what is this? lastman standing??

[Innovator]

CMON LONDON

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

GO LONDON!! sorry, im prematurly marking out

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

dammit wwe!!!

[Cactus Sid]

Chavo wins

Guess there going for London/Chavo at Mania

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

hopefully London will go over at Mania. Does anyone know what is happening with Takers Mania storyline then? its a bit up in the air last time i heard

[Cactus Sid]

Akio eliminated for not meeting 10 count, I haven't seen that in a non-last man standing match in years.

This actually killed the crowd, because they were all thinking.....what the fuck?

[Danny Electric]

I hope London gets the belt soon.
I haven't seen much of Chavo on TV, would have liked to have seen the belt go on Akio and then lead to an Akio v London match at Wrestltmania with London winning. But this won't happen.

[Cactus Sid]

The problem is, that has just killed the Cruiserweight division, because everyone looked so weak

[The Answer]

1 for 3 so far on tipsters. At least I get the points for the Booker T/Heidenreich Dq finish

[Gouda]

Shit. That cruserweight match has officially screwed me over in Tipsters.

And what the hell? First Funaki wins the title after months of being a jobber...and now... he's the first one eliminated... and in only a minute. Credible title they got there.

[Cactus Sid]

LOL, gotta love the Iron Shiek winning the battle royal, cos he couldn't take a top rope bump

Hurrah...... the women. What a waste of time.

.....Dawn Marie looks hot though :shifty:

[Cactus Sid]

I am now less bothered by the women as I am by the cheesy 80's music :mad:

[Marcyo]

New divas = :o

[Cactus Sid]

Well what a waste of time that was

[PullMyFinger]

There's two hours left with half the matches finished?!

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

dawn looks so old now

[GODSON]

Will anything on this show be as good as Daniels vs.Styles Iron Man match?

[Marcyo]

The PPV so far was a waste of time.

[Marcyo]

Luther vs Taker comin up. Yay

[Cactus Sid]

Will anything on this show be as good as Daniels vs.Styles Iron Man match?

I don't know if anything the WWE puts on this year will be as good as that

Hell, Smackdown is the wrong show to even be considering it

[Innovator]

Will anything on this show be as good as Daniels vs.Styles Iron Man match?you're joking right?

[GODSON]

The crowd totally was silent for London. I told all the internet guys that the fans don't care about him.

[PullMyFinger]

TNA should give up Jarret already and push AJ Styles as their #1 guy with the Heavyweight Title..and have Daniels as the #1 guy with the X Division title.

[PullMyFinger]

Yeah...a lot of people don't really care about London. To be honest, I never really understood the craze about him here either. I like cruiserweights..but I liked em WCW style with the luchadores. If Smackdown! capitalized on that shit....holy crap..it'd be a hell of a lot better than the current garbage they have.

[Marcyo]

TNA should give up Jarret already and push AJ Styles as their #1 guy with the Heavyweight Title..and have Daniels as the #1 guy with the X Division title.

:yes:

[Innovator]

Yeah...a lot of people don't really care about London. To be honest, I never really understood the craze about him here either. I like cruiserweights..but I liked em WCW style with the luchadores. If Smackdown! capitalized on that shit....holy crap..it'd be a hell of a lot better than the current garbage they have.go find his Ring of Honor stuff

[Danny Electric]

Yeah...a lot of people don't really care about London. To be honest, I never really understood the craze about him here either. I like cruiserweights..but I liked em WCW style with the luchadores. If Smackdown! capitalized on that shit....holy crap..it'd be a hell of a lot better than the current garbage they have.

Hey, what are you going on about.
I have not seen a bad London match. I have only cared about one match this year, London v Akio at the Smackdown in Japan. That match was awesome.
His indy stuff is amazing.

[Thriller]

go find his Ring of Honor stuff
I agree he's a phenomnal athlete

[PullMyFinger]

go find his Ring of Honor stuff
I understand that...but do you think the average WWE fan will care about that? Or care enough to look into that?

[Danny Electric]

go find his Ring of Honor stuff

:y:

[Cactus Sid]

The crowd totally was silent for London. I told all the internet guys that the fans don't care about him.

The fans don't care about any of the cruiserweights, because the WWE haven't given them a reason to like them. If you have a match on Smackdown which gets interrupted by some bullshit T and A contest, then the fans aren't gonna give a flying fuck about you. The worst thing is, London has shown glimpses of sheer brilliance in his time in the WWE, but it means nothing cos they never go anywhere with it. Considering they buried the 5 other guys in that match (4 looked weak and got eliminated, one looked weak and won) they could've just booked London to look dominant, if he pulled out a number of big moves and eliminated everybody, then you might give the fans a reason to care.

Not that it would matter. The buyrate for this show will be abysmal, and everyone will find out on Thursday that there is a new cruiserweight champion, and they wont care.

[PullMyFinger]

Hey, what are you going on about.
I have not seen a bad London match. I have only cared about one match this year, London v Akio at the Smackdown in Japan. That match was awesome.
His indy stuff is amazing.
Well, thus far the WWE has used him for nothing. I was interested in him at one point when he was feuding with Kidman..but that was dropped for some reason?

Plus, I was talking more on a level of average WWE fan.

[PullMyFinger]

The fans don't care about any of the cruiserweights, because the WWE haven't given them a reason to like them. If you have a match on Smackdown which gets interrupted by some bullshit T and A contest, then the fans aren't gonna give a flying fuck about you. The worst thing is, London has shown glimpses of sheer brilliance in his time in the WWE, but it means nothing cos they never go anywhere with it. Considering they buried the 5 other guys in that match (4 looked weak and got eliminated, one looked weak and won) they could've just booked London to look dominant, if he pulled out a number of big moves and eliminated everybody, then you might give the fans a reason to care.

Not that it would matter. The buyrate for this show will be abysmal, and everyone will find out on Thursday that there is a new cruiserweight champion, and they wont care.
Exactly. Just like what I said about his feud with Kidman. I started to care...after that was dropped...I was like 'fuck it.'

[Danny Electric]

Well, thus far the WWE has used him for nothing. I was interested in him at one point when he was feuding with Kidman..but that was dropped for some reason?

Plus, I was talking more on a level of average WWE fan.

They did drop the ball on that but his matches with Akio have been excellent and thats not with him using his full potential.

[#1-norm-fan]

This is only like the 4th WWF/E PPV I haven't ordered. All of which have been within the past few months. Hope everyone who did order is enjoying though. :D

I really wanted to see Cena vs. Angle. Should be great. I'm not spending $40 on one match though.

[mike627]

The fans don't care about any of the cruiserweights, because the WWE haven't given them a reason to like them. If you have a match on Smackdown which gets interrupted by some bullshit T and A contest, then the fans aren't gonna give a flying fuck about you. The worst thing is, London has shown glimpses of sheer brilliance in his time in the WWE, but it means nothing cos they never go anywhere with it. Considering they buried the 5 other guys in that match (4 looked weak and got eliminated, one looked weak and won) they could've just booked London to look dominant, if he pulled out a number of big moves and eliminated everybody, then you might give the fans a reason to care.

Not that it would matter. The buyrate for this show will be abysmal, and everyone will find out on Thursday that there is a new cruiserweight champion, and they wont care.Agreed it's sad that the cruisers are not getting a chance here. :nono:

[Cactus Sid]

Thing is, Vince is stuck in 1999. He thinks you can put sub-par matches all over the card and sell an event on name/ "entertainment" only.

A PPV consists of 3 hours of wrestling, you've gotta give people a reason to watch, if you push guys like London who can put on a good match, get the fans to care for them, then they will buy the events. Also, if you get some of the lower card talent, who can wrestle, and put them on TV more often, the WWE wont blow there load so quickly, and give away matches for free.

They are making the exact same mistakes WCW did.

[Cactus Sid]

Oh and the result of that match is another illustration of the problems the WWE have.

Taker, Angle, Michaels, Triple H, they've all been around, they all have to much say, and they all hardly ever elevate talent. Nash and Hogan did the exact same thing with WCW......

[Joe Kerr]

Exactly. Just like what I said about his feud with Kidman. I started to care...after that was dropped...I was like 'fuck it.'



just wanna say Blink 182 > Greenday

[Cactus Sid]

Christian = God

[Cactus Sid]

Actually that advert basically contains 3 guys who should be main eventing. The are entertaining and can wrestle.... Which is bad seemingly.

Oh goody..... more divas.

[Kane Knight]

Well, thus far the WWE has used him for nothing. I was interested in him at one point when he was feuding with Kidman..but that was dropped for some reason?

Plus, I was talking more on a level of average WWE fan.
To reiterate, however, why should the average WWE fan care about most of the CW division?

[Marcyo]

To reiterate, however, why should the average WWE fan care about most of the CW division?

Well, there's many reasons. You see, um... well, there's... uhhh....

:shifty:

[Gouda]

HOLY CRAP! The Undertaker won!!! I SO was NOT expecting that!!!! :eek:

[Kane Knight]

Thing is, Vince is stuck in 1999. He thinks you can put sub-par matches all over the card and sell an event on name/ "entertainment" only.

A PPV consists of 3 hours of wrestling, you've gotta give people a reason to watch, if you push guys like London who can put on a good match, get the fans to care for them, then they will buy the events. Also, if you get some of the lower card talent, who can wrestle, and put them on TV more often, the WWE wont blow there load so quickly, and give away matches for free.

They are making the exact same mistakes WCW did.
And that's the problem. I don't have a reason to give a shit about most of these guys, even the ones I want to watch. The Raw Tag champs are a good example, because I LIKE both of them, but don't give a shit about them.

On Smackdown!, almost EVERYONE is Tajiri/Regal. I WANT to like these guys...But I can't care.

[PullMyFinger]

just wanna say Blink 182 > Greenday
Green Day smokes Blink...well...Travis can smoke out Tre Cool.

[Cactus Sid]

I can't remember the last time I watched a WWE PPV this late. I also can't remember now why I am watching this.

Good Night everybody.

[Kane Knight]

Well, there's many reasons. You see, um... well, there's... uhhh....

:shifty:
Pretty much.

[Kane Knight]

just wanna say Blink 182 > Greenday
Blink 182 < dog shit.

Same with Joey Radd.

Green Day's hardly awesome, but they beat you and Blink.

[PullMyFinger]

Best band ever is The Smashing Pumpkins!!!!

[Shaggy]

Sounds like this ppv wont even last past the 2 1/2 hour mark.....hopefully WWE will fix itself because Im always pissed when I get a ppv that ends 30 mins ahead of schedule. Stupid Vince.....thank god im not getting No Way Out

[MVP]

Once the cage match comes on the posting in this thread will slow the hell down.

[DMI]

Blink 182 < dog shit.


:foc:

[Kane Knight]

Sounds like this ppv wont even last past the 2 1/2 hour mark.....hopefully WWE will fix itself because Im always pissed when I get a ppv that ends 30 mins ahead of schedule. Stupid Vince.....thank god im not getting No Way Out
They will only fix themselves if A) They get decent competition. Currently, they have TNA. That's a race between Boeng and your neighbor's yard. Boeng could be incompetent, but thye'll build a better rocket by default.

Or, B) The business actually does drop off enough to wake a few fuckers up. That requires them to stop blaming the internet, Cruiserweights, and any easy scapegoat on the planet.

[Volchok]

what happend with the PPV so far...

[PullMyFinger]

I bet everyone here that JOHN CENA WILL WIN!!!!!

[PullMyFinger]

They will only fix themselves if A) They get decent competition. Currently, they have TNA. That's a race between Boeng and your neighbor's yard. Boeng could be incompetent, but thye'll build a better rocket by default.

Or, B) The business actually does drop off enough to wake a few fuckers up. That requires them to stop blaming the internet, Cruiserweights, and any easy scapegoat on the planet.
Triple H is probably reading all of this...WATCH OUT!!!

[Loose Cannon]

Hopefully, after this PPV, Smackdown will fix themselves in terms of trades...actually not even trades, just guys going to Smackdown from Raw without any talent rembersement to Raw. Orton, Christian, Jericho, Benoit are guys that should be going to Smackdown.

[Kane Knight]

:foc:
Stop picking bands that suck because there's a hot guy in them.

[Kane Knight]

Triple H is probably reading all of this...WATCH OUT!!!
Least it's not Brock. He'd kill me.

[PullMyFinger]

They should make Smackdown!'s PPVs like 15 bucks...then I might be willing to buy em.

[PullMyFinger]

Least it's not Brock. He'd kill me.
Hahahahaha! Good one. I remember that...he was even worse than Triple H.

[Kane Knight]

They should make Smackdown!'s PPVs like 15 bucks...then I might be willing to buy em.
They should make all the PPVs 15 bucks/month.

[The Answer]

Did Jindrak try to intefere in the taker/reigns match?

Edit: Never mind he was thrown out before the match started

[Savio]

Anyone gotta link?

[PullMyFinger]

Anyone gotta link?
For what? Streaming? No. Found one, not working.

[Marcyo]

Edit: Never mind he was thrown out before the match started

:lol:

[Marcyo]

HBK ------» ??? wasnt he supposed to be there

[Kane Knight]

HBK ------» ??? wasnt he supposed to be there
Why would he be there?

[SuperSlim]

that whole Angle thing.

[Gouda]

HBK will show uplater in the back and go "Hey Angle, I didn't even need to cost you your shot at the WM main event because you lost yourself! You suck and stuff!"

Then Angle will go "Oh yeah?! I challenge you... to a DUEL!! I choose pistols at Wrestlemania!"

[PullMyFinger]

To build up Angle vs. HBK. Haha, Cena won..and no Michaels run in?! Booker and Heidenreich had a match with no buildup either? What's next? Randy and Taker just go at it with no buildup either?! WWE IS JUST LIKE TNA NOW!

[Kane Knight]

that whole Angle thing.
That would make sense when you're trying to put Cena over.

[SuperSlim]

well when was the last time WWE made any sense?

[PullMyFinger]

That would make sense when you're trying to put Cena over.
Cena is already over though. Plus, he was a shoe-in for this match up. They could've just built up michaels vs. angle.

[DMI]

How did Taker get the win?

[Kane Knight]

Cena is already over though. Plus, he was a shoe-in for this match up. They could've just built up michaels vs. angle.
Nothing like making it look like Cena needed a hand against Angle.

[Kane Knight]

How did Taker get the win?
Black hole effect. He sucked so hard that Reigns collapsed.

[The Naitch]

via PAul Bearer interference

[DMI]

OMG kk, first Blink, now Taker. DONT MAKE ME HURT YOU. :(

[The Answer]

Tipsters league:How will HBK Be involved. Ummm I mean How:Correct Answer: He was playing with a voodoo Kurt Angle doll that caused Angle to lose

[The Answer]

OMG kk, first Blink, now Taker. DONT MAKE ME HURT YOU. :(

Taker Tombstoned Reigns

[Kane Knight]

OMG kk, first Blink, now Taker. DONT MAKE ME HURT YOU. :(
Stop choosing sucky things.

[DMI]

suck this :foc:

[addy2hotty]

And so concludes the worst PPV I've seen in 14 years with the worst ending to a match in that 14 years. The point of the barbed-wire was? The point of the match was?

I won't be watching this tosh for a while.

And here comes Batista. The point being? He's not leaving Raw. Wasting Eddie G's time with pointlessness.

[The Naitch]

so what match is on now?

[The Naitch]

ok so what happened? Is the Barbed Wire match over?

[addy2hotty]

Oh and here's John Cena. A man who makes Randy Orton look good.

[Corkscrewed]

Hopefully, since i said Cena by pinfall via FU, they'll count that even though I said Michaels would interfere but didn't. Tho I did get JBL right. Overall, a pretty bad night by my standards. :( Totally died on the CW match, missed the tags, didn't get the Booker T method of win correct.

[addy2hotty]

ok so what happened? Is the Barbed Wire match over?

Show chokeslammed JBL through the ring, and as Show left the cage and took his 'im not winning the title really as im taking so long' walk down the steps, BJL crawled out from under the ring. And won.

Batista came down to get JBL's cabinet and looked even more over-roided than normal, while Cena came out and powerslammed him through a table (i think as I looked away) while Batista and Cena looked at each other and made faces and Cena waved at himself saying 'you cant see me'.

[Corkscrewed]

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Batista never showed up, did he? Heck.. did ANYONE from Raw show up?

[The Naitch]

gay

[addy2hotty]

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Batista never showed up, did he? Heck.. did ANYONE from Raw show up?

At the very end he did.....

[Thriller]

Show chokeslammed JBL through the ring, and as Show left the cage and took his 'im not winning the title really as im taking so long' walk down the steps, BJL crawled out from under the ring. And won.

Batista came down to get JBL's cabinet and looked even more over-roided than normal, while Cena came out and powerslammed him through a table (i think as I looked away) while Batista and Cena looked at each other and made faces and Cena waved at himself saying 'you cant see me'.
That actually sounds pretty creative

[The Naitch]

seriously, whats going on now?

[V]

lol, i am now officially last place in tipsters

[SuperSlim]

creative yes

[PullMyFinger]

Has JBL ever gotten a legit clean win?!

[addy2hotty]

That actually sounds pretty creative

Yet another 'lucky' win for JBL. They might as well had a singles match, no need for a cage, barbed-wire etc. They've done the 'through the ring' thing too many time snow for it to be surprising. No 'holy-sh*t' chants from the crowd, utter silence to be perfectly honest. I feel for the guys that paid for this crap.

The rest of the PPV? Even the Eddie - Rey feud that I was hoping to begin hasn't, looks like your typical '4 team elimination' at WM. What a waste for the real star of SD, has any wrestler (except Jericho) had such a fall from grace after a title loss?

The CW battle royal was messy, confusing, and ended horribly, at least have Chavo go over London clean (he had been in the rest of the matches), he didn't need to cheat in that match. I wouldn't count on London vs Chavo at WM, I expect the rematch Thursday on SD and the rest of it forgotten. With Rey out of the CW scene, there's simply nothing to it. No-one cares as no-one ever sees the matches, as for the competitors? Is Shannon Moore truely a credible competitor? Say what you want about TNA, but the X-Division pisses over the CW division.

Undertaker vs Reigns. Why? The point was? What gains have either of them had from this match - nothing.

Heidenshite vs Booked Badly, I'm not even going to comment.

Angle vs Cena was as expected. I'm shocked how poor a wrestler Cena really is. If he's going to take the title at WM, then SD is on a slippery slope.

Everyone is expecting a roster lottery, don't count on it. Last year they had an excuse, Vince coming out complaining etc.

And Teddy Long at Raw tomorrow? Expect a feud starting between him and Bischoff maybe resulting in a match at WM. The winner gets to take 5 of his opponents talent, or 5 picks out of a hat of wrestlers. Would be interesting wouldn't it?

PPV rating 1/10.

[Mayo]

Anyone have pics of the divasfrom tonight? Rep awaits you :naughty:

[The Naitch]

I was actually going to watch it. Going to watch Wrestlemania for sure :)

[Loose Cannon]

LOL at JBL.

That is a first ever. :lol:

[Gerard]

That ending was pretty funny, i was like wtf when they said "and still wwe champion" then i seen jbl on the ground, had to start laughing at that.

[addy2hotty]

I predict this years WM will be worse than WM19, perhaps even the worst ever.

[The Answer]

Uh why didn't Show just pin him after the chokeslam through the ring rather than bust the door down :wtf:

[Gerard]

Uh why didn't Show just pin him after the chokeslam through the ring rather than bust the door down :wtf:


Most steel cage matches over the years the way people usually win is to escape, im talking late 80's through the 90's. Ive rarely seen a steel cage match in wwe where the winner is by pin, saying that i think ortons was a pinfall over flair.

[PullMyFinger]

Uh why didn't Show just pin him after the chokeslam through the ring rather than bust the door down :wtf:
You're not supposed to think that.

[The Answer]

You're not supposed to think that.

Big dumb giant or should I say writers?

[Savio]

any one have the live images link?

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. I kinda reget not getting this PPV. I dunno. It's just the WWE's bitch in me talking probably. The end of the main event and Cena going over Angle cleanly sound pretty awesome.

I'll be seeing the Cena-Angle match and the main event soon anyways. I'll aquire them legally of course. :shifty:

How was the Cena-Angle match anyway? Gimme a 1-10 rating.

[Corkscrewed]

Show chokeslammed JBL through the ring, and as Show left the cage and took his 'im not winning the title really as im taking so long' walk down the steps, BJL crawled out from under the ring. And won.

Batista came down to get JBL's cabinet and looked even more over-roided than normal, while Cena came out and powerslammed him through a table (i think as I looked away) while Batista and Cena looked at each other and made faces and Cena waved at himself saying 'you cant see me'.

Bah, posted right when you did. Thanks.


greenday: JBL has two credible wins in my book
1. He pinned Booker T at Armageddon I think.
2. He beat Angle and Big Show.

Neither was 100% clean, but you rarely see that in main events period anyway. But those are the only two credible wins he has in my book.

[#1-norm-fan]

Damn. Reading the Cena-Angle match results now. Can't believe I missed the begining of Cena's road to the title. I haven't been this much into a wrestler since HBK back in '96. The match sounded pretty great. As does the end/aftermath of the JBL-Show match. Ugh. I'm never missing another PPV as long as I live. :(

[#1-norm-fan]

Bah, posted right when you did. Thanks.


greenday: JBL has two credible wins in my book
1. He pinned Booker T at Armageddon I think.
2. He beat Angle and Big Show.

Neither was 100% clean, but you rarely see that in main events period anyway. But those are the only two credible wins he has in my book.

Well, this WAS a clean win. He didn't cheat or anything. He escaped the cage before Show. No help. After being chokeslamed through the ring no less.

[XL]

That ending was pretty funny, i was like wtf when they said "and still wwe champion" then i seen jbl on the ground, had to start laughing at that.

Are you serious??

As soon as JBL went through the ring I turned around and called the finish!!

In fact it was made all too obvious by the fact that Show took all day to climb down from the ropes, to walk pastan easy pinfall victory to walk out the door, sorry walk down the steps at a slower pace than the Iron Sheik at WM17!

The whole ppv was a blow out!

CW match was rushed and then why put the title on Chavo, he doesn't need it, has he even been on SD! recently?? So what if London wins "the big match" at WM, its obvious the writers couldn't give a toss about the division! Hence (drum role please) The SD! Rookie Diva Competition!

This utter shit took up nearly 3 ten minute segments! Who the fuck was the dark haired girl who wasn't Joy anyway? Why should I care about her? What difference does it make to me what her "special talent" is? And just what was it? Annoyingly shouting incoherrant words at the crowd?? Christ!!

Taker-Reigns- Why? I swear, if Taker-Orton goes ahead at WM and Taker wins I'll....I'll...well I don't know what I'll do but i will definately be :rant:

Booker-Heidenshite - guess we gotta put up with this shit at WM! Poor Booker! :nono:

Angle-Cena was a let down and I can't watch Angle matches for fear of neck injury!

How dead was the main event?? The crowd were like :| I don't blame them of course!

And all through this I had to sit in a room with a white-Viscera-looking motherfucker who (and get this I found one) was a Big Show mark!

Right! Calm down!

I must of course take this in to consideration...

1. I didn't have to watch it! I could have gone home with my girlfriend :love: , to bed :D , for you know what :naughty: but instead I watched NWO :nono: Shame on me!

2. The show was free :) .

3. For me, completely free as I don't have to pay the Sky bill either :D

However, I will not see WM for free, at all even, until a few days later anyway!

This rant was brought to you in association with XL Productions and Danny Electric Electrical Appliances Ltd.

[#1-norm-fan]

And ACTUALLY, when he won the title from Eddie it was technically clean too. He hit all 4 turnbuckles before Eddie, therefore winning the match.

[XL]

But he FELL into the last one!

not very convincing!

[Loose Cannon]

lol, I love the "This is going to be the Worst Wrestlemania of all-time" comments.

Obviously you never saw 1,2,9,11,12, or 13.

[#1-norm-fan]

I could have gone home with my girlfriend :love: , to bed :D , for you know what :naughty: but instead I watched NWO


Jesus, I wouldn't have announced that fact if I were you.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol, I love the "This is going to be the Worst Wrestlemania of all-time" comments.

Obviously you never saw ...12...

Alright, we're gonna fight about this. :mad:

[#1-norm-fan]

21 will not be the worst WM of all time though.

[XL]

Jesus, I wouldn't have announced that fact if I were you.

You gotta remember I can get :naughty: whenever want but NWO was a one night only thing!

Yes this is me digging a bigger hole for myself!

I'm gonna watch One Night Only now to make up for NWO! :wave:

[Loose Cannon]

http://img178.exs.cx/img178/8194/shaneraw32689zb.jpg

Hey, SHUT THE FUCK UP

[XL]

http://img178.exs.cx/img178/8194/shaneraw32689zb.jpg

Hey, SHUT THE FUCK UP

I hope that wasn't aimed at me!! :?:

[PullMyFinger]

Wrestlemania 13 was a piece of shit.

[Kane Knight]

This will be the worst Wrestlemania of all time...

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[#1-norm-fan]

Wrestlemania 13 was a piece of shit.

lol. Best random comment I've heard all day!

[PorkSoda]

Those who did see NWO, did you see when Luther hit a reverse DDT on Undertaker and Micheal Cole thought he hit the swinging neckbreaker?

[AareDub]

any one have the live images link?

www.4w-wrestling.com always has live pics from the ppvs. It refreshes with a new pic every minute or so. After it's over you can go back through the gallery, you should see a link somewhere on the main page that says "live ppv images" or something. From there it's split up into 2 galleries.

[LK]

I predict this years WM will be worse than WM19, perhaps even the worst ever.
:wtf: I thought that WM was great. Austin vs Rock, Jericho vs HBK, Angle vs Lesnar and the Hogan/McMahon match which I thought was well above what I expected. You're going to have to explain that one.

[addy2hotty]

:wtf: I thought that WM was great. Austin vs Rock, Jericho vs HBK, Angle vs Lesnar and the Hogan/McMahon match which I thought was well above what I expected. You're going to have to explain that one.

Austin - Rock, Austin was awful in that match, nothing on their previous WM matches, and why the hell did we have to suffer it again anyway?

Jericho - HBK was the highlight of the night. I'll give you that, but one match doesn't make a Wrestlemania.

Angle vs Lesnar wasn't particularly inspiring. The ending was botched and no matter how many people laugh at his missed Shooting Star, it was certainly no 5-star. Credit to Angle for wrestling while injured.

McMahon vs Hogan? Please. Roddy Piper showing up was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Who booked that crap?

Noticed you only listed 4 matches. 4 matches from a 4 hour show.

Taker vs A-Train and Show. Enough said. Trips vs BookedBadly - nothing special and a travesty ending. Hardy vs Mysterio was reasonable, but nothing like it should have been. The Triple Threat Tag Team title match, another poor showing. Benoit and Guerrero wasted. I'm not even going to mention the Women's Title match.

RVD and Kane on Heat. Kane and RVD marks alledgedly leaving (was this true?)

And for suckability, I only have to say one thing - The Miller Cat Fight Girls.

Compare it to 17, the best ever, which had literally everything. Stories/buildup behind every match but one - Angle vs Benoit, and even that felt like it had. Can you really see a match getting the reaction that the TLC match got? A match with the intensity of build-up like Austin/Rock had? Even Vince/Shane had it all behind it. The Women's Title match, albeit a squash had a story behind it. Hell, even the gimmick battle royal was great (only as I marked the f*ck out when Bobby Heenan came down the ring).

Perhaps I overreacted when I said that 19 was the 'worst ever', I don't really have an opinion on that - but certainly the biggest WM letdown ever.

WM21 will suck like a Dyson factory. I don't really care about any of the competitors in it, apart from Y2J, Benoit, Guerrero - all of which will be in meaningless, instantly forgettable matches. Triple H will retain in the main event, while the SD Title match will be shunted down to midcard (unless a huge booking turn is done and Batista goes to SD but its not going to happen, period), and no-one will care about that either.

Angle vs HBK will hopefully be excellent, but it's certainly not worth shelling out for. I won't be buying this PPV.