DISCUSSION - Do John Cena and Dave Batista have sexual chemistry with one another?

[Heyman]

DISCUSSION - Do John Cena and Dave Batista have sexual chemistry with one another?

Yes, because they're gay! omg! lol! xoxoxox! :shifty:


Now that THAT is out of my system ( :shifty: -), I can focus on the purpose of my post.

In short, here is what I think:

-John Cena and Dave Batista are arguably the two hottest commodities in the WWE right now.

-With this in mind, I believe that the WWE should seriously start building around a Cena/Batista rivalry *AFTER* Wrestlemania 21.........in preperation for Wrestlemania 22 (gasp :eek: -). I "gasp" at this because its pretty damn strange to 'build' for something that would be practically a year away.

-While I don't believe that the roster split should come to an end, I would like to see a legitimate RAW vs. Smackdown feud (in between Wrestlemania 21 and Wrestlemania 22). Cena would be the "centerpiece" of Smackdown, while Batista would be the "centerpiece" of RAW.

After Wrestlemania 22

a) Cena or Batista will be the Undisputed Champ (that appears on both shows).

b) The RAW/Smackdown "feud" would officially end (i.e. there would be less RAW and Smackdown wrestlers appearing on the 'others' show causing backstage attacks, etc.), but a 'cold war' would still exist between the brands (i.e. there would be noticeable tension between the two brands at joint PPV's).



Basically, I think something like this would achieve the following:

-A year long rivalry between Cena and Batista could REALLY help ratings. I'm not sure how they would do it, but Cena and Batista wouldn't actually fight each other (one on one) until Wrestlemania-22. To some degree, it would be kinda like Austin/Vince. Austin/Vince had a "rivalry" which started from shortly after WM-14, but really had a climax at Wrestlemania-15. I was thinking that Cena/Batista could be the same way.

-RAW vs. Smackdown feud (with the current roster as is) would increase fan interest and ratings. For this ONE year (and one year only), we could see many interpromotional matches and feuds. This would also be a good time to help some of the Smackdown mid-carders get 'over' . Right now, a major problem that Smackdown has, is that the fans aren't being given a reason to cheer for the mid-carders.


Guys like Dupree, London, Kidman, etc. are all talented, but have been marketed extremely poorly.

Perhaps by giving them credible victories over the more "established" RAW mid-carders (i.e. Christian, Jericho, Benoit, Kane, etc.), people may respect the Smackdown mid-card a little more.

-Dupree could beat a guy like Jericho for instance. (while getting a newer and updated gimmick).

The same things can happen with London and Kidman.

Basically - this could be a great way for the fans to finally care about the mid-carders of Smackdown.



After Wrestlemania 22, the roster splits can once again be strictly enforced. The only difference, would be that there would be an Undisputed Champ. Furthermore, there would be far more tension between the RAW and SD brand (which would be noticeable at their joint PPV's).


I think a RAW/Smackdown feud (with Cena and Batista as the "centerpieces" representing each brand) would be a tremendous catalyst for higher ratings.



The only question, is could the WWE actually have a RAW/Smackdown feud where there is no "heel" or "face" brand? Basically - heels and faces would be a part of both brands. :?:


Oh well - food for thought.

[Heyman]

Just a brief thing to add to this post:


I would REALLY REALLY REALLY "mark out" if the night after Wrestlemania 21 (with Batista celebrating in the ring), Cena's music unexpectedly hit and he came down to challenge Batista for a "winner-take-all" match.


Somehow someway (not sure 'why' or 'how' this would happen), the entire Smackdown lockerroom came down with Cena when Cena's music hit.


After seeing this, everyone in the RAW lockerroom would come out to support Batista.


Basically - the show would end with Cena and Batista nose-to-nose staring at each other...............The Smackdown guys behind Cena............the RAW guys behind Batista.

[Corkscrewed]

You really think they'd make the SmackDOWN brand look like it stands a chance? They'd book it the way they booked WCW during the Invasion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't mind the idea. Maybe have it come to a head at Summerslam, though. Why not go the whole way and make Summerslam officially RAW vs. SmackDown!?

I think it would be great to have SmackDown! become invading rebels trying to attack RAW superstars. The Hurricane gets attacked by Kidman and Dupree on te way to his car. Hardcore Holly, Paul London, Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero throw Viscera down severa flights of stairs, etc.

Two RAW guys, then decide to fight back, and we see Rhyno & Steven Richards attack some random SmackDown! guys during a match. They then pick a fight with any SmackDown! guys that want to fight a RAW guy face-to-face.

Out comes a bunch of SmackDown! guys led by Cena. Rhyno & Richards fight, but get their ass kicked, when all of a sudden.........DAVE BATISTA IS HERE!!!!!!!!

Batista is in the ring looking ready for a fight, with his ring attire on. He then beats the Hell out of the SmackDown! guys calmly. He then just stares down Cena.

The next week Richards, Rhyno and Simon Dean then show up on SD! at a later date and start swearing like crazy and doing stuff to try and get the censors to kick SD! off the air. If they actually do get kicked off the air, all the better. It looks like the WWE will be on USA soon, anyway.

This would really be a good chance to get their guys over and really develope a mid-card.

[KayfabeMan]

Good idea, but I doubt - as Corkscrewed said - that they'd make SD! look good.

They've had plenty of chances to make it look good already, and blew them, so I don't see them doing anything beneficial for their own guys - as they really never have yet.

[KayfabeMan]

Also: -A year long rivalry between Cena and Batista could REALLY help ratings. I'm not sure how they would do it, but Cena and Batista wouldn't actually fight each other (one on one) until Wrestlemania-22. To some degree, it would be kinda like Austin/Vince. Austin/Vince had a "rivalry" which started from shortly after WM-14, but really had a climax at Wrestlemania-15. I was thinking that Cena/Batista could be the same way.

It could be done easily, but they avoid solid feuds nowadays for some reason. To them, everything must be rushed and a feud tops out at 2-4 weeks (if that sometimes). I think it's because they lack not only the dedication to make something work, but the creative skills and/or smarts enough to let someone use them.

They could do tons of things to keep them out of the ring together, while putting them in the ring together. Then again, it's an old-school idea, so they won't use it.

*Tag matches, and just as Batista is tagged in, Cena tags out to the other guy - and the other way around. This would also work in six man tag formats, with the two guys never having to contact each other at all.

*Bans / suspensions. The GM of a show getting tired of all the problems one of them causes on the show, banning them for the week. As long as they're kept on TV for the week, it can still be built.

*Run ins / attacks that backfire. Example, Cena attempts to attack Batista, but a big brawl erupts with someone else before he gets the chance to / something else cuts him off before he gets there. There are a dozen situations that play out better in the real world than they sound on paper, but they really won't use them.

It's all basically teasers and creative ways of keeping them together yet apart - and more importantly keeping the fans into the angle.

[Heyman]

To a large degree, I agree with both Kayfabeman and Corkscrewed. Not only would Smackdown 'most likely' be booked to look inferior, but the WWE also (for whatever reason) avoids 'solid feuds'.


Personally - I just don't see why the WWE doesn't just do the obvious.


A) It's obvious that the fans LOVE it when the brands 'interact' with one another. I'm not even advocating a roster unification here. Just some more "interaction". For one year (and one year only), wouldn't you agree that ratings and fan interest could potentially SOAR?......if we saw a RAW/Smackdown feud? After that? - things can go back to the way they are now (except with a 'cold war' between the two brands). Basically - a RAW/Smackdown year long (or even 8 month long) feud could act as a CATALYST for higher ratings.

B) Cena vs. Batista. Fuck the whole Batista/Lesnar or Orton/Cena "dream" match-ups. Cena and Batista is what the fans would be interested in *NOW*.

The funny thing is, Theodore Long on RAW spoke the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

-Cena and Batista are the two hottest commodities in the WWE right now.
-Cena and Batista perhaps have the potential to be the next 'great' feud.



For one year, and one year only...........I think the WWE should "blow their load" so to speak.

-Lets see more interpromotional matches and feuds due to the RAW/Smackdown feud.

-Lets see SD wrestlers attacking RAW wrestlers backstage on RAW and vice-versa. Lets see some 'gang' wars.

-Lets see a Cena/Batista match at Wrestlemania 22. Cena....the pride of Smackdown. Batista....the pride of RAW. Martry vs. Martyr. Blue chipper vs. Blue Chipper. Fan Favorite vs. Fan Favorite.

[Heyman]

Think about how COOL the PPV's could be (the 'meant to be' interactive ones)

Imagine if the WWE (with a RAW/Smackdown feud), brought back KOTR.


The build-up for KOTR could be great! Smackdown could brag about how Renee Dupree is the fastest rising star in the WWE. RAW could brag about the emergence of Chris Masters (not saying it has to be him, just an example).

What happens? At KOTR (after both men have won their respective 'tournaments') on their show, they can have a match to see who the *REAL* KOTR winner for that year is.


Survivor Series:

The 5 best of Smackdown, vs. the 5 best of RAW for the main-event. To add to this complication, the top 5 from each brand wouldn't exactly "get along" with one another.......and so that adds another element.


For instance:


Smackdown (Cena, JBL, Taker, Angle, Guerrero)

vs.

RAW (Batista, Triple H, Benoit, Shawn Michaels, Kane).



C'mon WWE - let me book for ya. ;) :p

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was thinking about Survivor Series before, and I really think that the WWE can do somehting with that. A modified War Games Match between RAW and SmackDown! would really get things going well.

Why not do something really interesting here, and have John Cena LOSE at WrestleMania, due to Batista costing him the match. Dave explains that tonight was his night, he does what he wants and he doesn't want Cena to take away from that.

This can create a rivalry in the brands, with Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler saying that WrestleMania was Batista's night being that he won the Royal Rumble. On SmackDown! they say that SmackDown! was going to crown a new WWE Champion until Batista interfered.

I haven't watched the finish again yet, but in the Royal Rumble this year, I think I remember John Cena's left foot landing on Batista's back when they did the double-elimination spot. If this did happen (I'm really not sure), they could have Cena play that and say that technically he deserved to win the Royal Rumble.

A match between the two at Summerslam would really make the show worth watching, in my opinion. Maybe even keep Cena AWAY from the WWE Campionship until then?

A while ago I made a post about how I would like to see the King of the Ring tournament go, if it was reinstated. Cena can qualify for the tournament because he hasn't been a World Champion before. In the finals we have Edge vs. John Cena, with John Cena picking up the win and getting is choice of World Champion at Summerslam. He chooses Batista and away we go. :y: